Barangay Ginebra Kings

[Kazekage.Gaara]

 

yes chief...another loaded rookie draft. i'm not sure if mac belo will have himself drafted. kaya nga pinamimigay na ng TnT si ranidel in exchange for kia's first round pick next year.

 

 

ang tanong ngayon chief, sino ang ipapamigay ni coach tim to get joe and mallari?

 

 

it's about time chief...matagal na dapat inayos yang agency ng ginebra.

Ginebra doesn't need to trade anyone to get Mallari. He doesn't have an active contract once his current one expires this month, same with Sanggalang.

 

 

Well good thing for purefoods din ito, additional shooter, kawawa na naman ang BB.. haha..

About time those guards will be reduced, JJ, time is up.

Speaking of JJ, insiders say that he does intend to retire this season.

Edited August 5, 2015 by Kyoji_Kagami

[junix]

Ginebra doesn't need to trade anyone to get Mallari. He doesn't have an active contract once his current one expires this month, same with Sanggalang.

 

 

Speaking of JJ, insiders say that he does intend to retire this season.

 

oh yes...my bad. they are both FAs. so they can sign anytime with any team they wish. ganda naman ng timing if coach tim can get these two players without giving away anybody.

[*kalel*]

Honestly, i dont want to see urbiztondo go... me angas, depensa, hustle at opensa... if dorian will be traded or retired, sino na magrelieve ke greg?

 

Tingin ko lilipat si jdv pero malabo si sanggalang at mallari unless gusto ng pf mag rebuild

[azraelmd]

Honestly, i dont want to see urbiztondo go... me angas, depensa, hustle at opensa... if dorian will be traded or retired, sino na magrelieve ke greg?

Tingin ko lilipat si jdv pero malabo si sanggalang at mallari unless gusto ng pf mag rebuild

Mas may chance si ian and alex imo...kasi FA na sila eh...depends kung anong team ang willing magoffer sa kanila...isa na dyan kia...or some teams will try to sign sanggalang and trade him to kia for the number 2 draft pick....

 

Mas mahirap si jdv kasi thru trade eh....pena/urbiztondo? Baka nde payagan ni kume....

[Miss Cyrille]

Hi.!

[*kalel*]

hindi ba restricted free agent si ian s?

[photographer]

Honestly, i dont want to see urbiztondo go... me angas, depensa, hustle at opensa... if dorian will be traded or retired, sino na magrelieve ke greg?

 

Tingin ko lilipat si jdv pero malabo si sanggalang at mallari unless gusto ng pf mag rebuild

 

Instead of letting go of Urbiztondo, I would rather trade Barracael. Maraming meron si Josh kaysa kay Marnel. Barracael know only how to shoot which is not really consistent. Urbiztondo has the hassle, the defense, the shooting.

[rooster69ph]

Ginebra doesn't need to trade anyone to get Mallari. He doesn't have an active contract once his current one expires this month, same with Sanggalang.

 

 

Speaking of JJ, insiders say that he does intend to retire this season.

 

 

 

oh yes...my bad. they are both FAs. so they can sign anytime with any team they wish. ganda naman ng timing if coach tim can get these two players without giving away anybody.

 

 

Per player agent Danny Espiritu while players like Mallari have expired contracts and are considered as free agent, parang restricted pa rin sila as the team they last played for have their rights (of first refusal). Now assuming bibitiwan nila ang rights nila over the said player, he said that non sister teams will have the priority to negotiate/sign these players. This is in line with the no direct trade allowed for sister team kasi nga naman its a convenient way to circumvent the rule wherein you allow your player's contract to expire then may gentleman's deal kayo na ililipat siya sa sister team at doon na maglalaro. Assuming walang interested, then the sister team can now sign the player.

 

Unfortunately, kung mga tulad ni Mallari at Ian ang pakakawalan, tiyak maguunahan ang mga ibang teams na sunggabin yan. Kaya the best pa rin to move these players is to look for a 3rd team to facilitate the trade.

[rooster69ph]

 

Instead of letting go of Urbiztondo, I would rather trade Barracael. Maraming meron si Josh kaysa kay Marnel. Barracael know only how to shoot which is not really consistent. Urbiztondo has the hassle, the defense, the shooting.

 

This article may be good news to you .... http://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/news/tim-cone-ginebra-basketball-work-practice-new-season

 

Papapirmahin raw si Urbiztondo so for the meantime safe daw siya although pwede pa rin naman mai-trade after. Pero knowing that he's one player who've played for CTC before, baka i-retain yan.

 

Si Marcelo ang hinahanapan daw ng trade ... gusto nila si KG

 

SI Eman, nanganganib kasi may mga interested teams daw. Sa tingin ko kung makakakuha ng wings for Eman baka i-consider na maitrade yan.

[holygrail_24]

Sana makuha nila si chris newsome sa draft. Imho ok rin si earl scottie thompson

Edited August 7, 2015 by holygrail_24

[junix]

 

 

 

 

Per player agent Danny Espiritu while players like Mallari have expired contracts and are considered as free agent, parang restricted pa rin sila as the team they last played for have their rights (of first refusal). Now assuming bibitiwan nila ang rights nila over the said player, he said that non sister teams will have the priority to negotiate/sign these players. This is in line with the no direct trade allowed for sister team kasi nga naman its a convenient way to circumvent the rule wherein you allow your player's contract to expire then may gentleman's deal kayo na ililipat siya sa sister team at doon na maglalaro. Assuming walang interested, then the sister team can now sign the player.

 

Unfortunately, kung mga tulad ni Mallari at Ian ang pakakawalan, tiyak maguunahan ang mga ibang teams na sunggabin yan. Kaya the best pa rin to move these players is to look for a 3rd team to facilitate the trade.

 

so, in the pba, we can now assume that there is no such thing as a "restricted free agent" (where the mother team can match the offer of another team) and an "unrestricted free agent" (where one can simply sign with any team upon the expiration of his contract). if a pba player is a free agent, walang distinction. automatically the mother team has the "right of first refusal" just like the paul lee case na ayaw pakawalan ng RoS. walang nagawa si paul lee kundi pumirma sa RoS. honestly, i find this a bit illogical because a player who has an expired contract cannot just simply sign a new contract with a new team without the consent/acquiescence of his mother team...bottom line, nakatali siya sa mother team? i would understand if this was used in bad faith, like a player from the mvp team purposely had his contract expire, the signs with another mvp team, then that would clearly be circumventing the rule.

 

anyway, i think it will be chris newsome for ginebra in the 1st round.

[junix]

 

This article may be good news to you .... http://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/news/tim-cone-ginebra-basketball-work-practice-new-season

 

Papapirmahin raw si Urbiztondo so for the meantime safe daw siya although pwede pa rin naman mai-trade after. Pero knowing that he's one player who've played for CTC before, baka i-retain yan.

 

Si Marcelo ang hinahanapan daw ng trade ... gusto nila si KG

 

SI Eman, nanganganib kasi may mga interested teams daw. Sa tingin ko kung makakakuha ng wings for Eman baka i-consider na maitrade yan.

 

i think the only reason why marcelo was taken in is because he is a frankie lim boy. other than that, i don't see any reason why he was traded to ginebra. i'd take "billy mams" or jr reyes over marcelo any day of the week.

 

as for eman, sayang kung mai-trade siya. this player, while standing at 5'7" (?) is an energy/impact guy...someone who you'd put in the game para magising yung mga natutulog niyang kasama. if jj indeed retires, maybe there could still be some room for eman in the team. ito ang isang player sa ginebra na may "puso".

[junix]

PBA Trade Rumors:

TNT's Jimmy Alapag for Blackwater's Larry Rodriguez, Jimmy Alapag to be traded again to Meralco for Mike Cortez and James Sena. NOTE: Jimmy Alapag will be coming out of retirement.

 

Ginebra's Emman Monfort for BlackWater's 2nd round pick.

 

Ginebra's Dave Marcelo for NLEX' KG Canaleta.

 

Star Hotshot's Alex Mallari for Barako's Dylan Ababou+future pick. Ginebra's Jens Knuttle+Josh Urbiztondo for the

rights of Alex Mallari.

 

very interesting...kung totoo ito, mukhang inaayos na ni coach tim ang kanyang mga gustong players. kailan naman kaya si mac "takbong mayaman" baracael?

 

first to pick ba ang blackwater sa 2nd round?

Edited August 7, 2015 by junix

[*kalel*]

Jimmy alapag is tnt manager... why trade him?

[rooster69ph]

 

so, in the pba, we can now assume that there is no such thing as a "restricted free agent" (where the mother team can match the offer of another team) and an "unrestricted free agent" (where one can simply sign with any team upon the expiration of his contract). if a pba player is a free agent, walang distinction. automatically the mother team has the "right of first refusal" just like the paul lee case na ayaw pakawalan ng RoS. walang nagawa si paul lee kundi pumirma sa RoS. honestly, i find this a bit illogical because a player who has an expired contract cannot just simply sign a new contract with a new team without the consent/acquiescence of his mother team...bottom line, nakatali siya sa mother team? i would understand if this was used in bad faith, like a player from the mvp team purposely had his contract expire, the signs with another mvp team, then that would clearly be circumventing the rule.

 

anyway, i think it will be chris newsome for ginebra in the 1st round.

 

I think the right of first refusal rule is the same as being classified as a restricted free agent ...because the RFA's mother team can match whatever offer he can get from other teams and retain his services. If the player won't sign then his mother team still retain the rights over him. The catch here is that the tender offer (which is equivalent to the "qualifying offer" in the nba should at least be more than one year for the mother team to retain its right of first refusal. If the tender offer is only 1 year then the mother team does not have the RFR.

 

Players who have played for 6 yrs automatically becomes unrestricted free agents when their contract expires and their mother team has no RFR

Edited August 7, 2015 by rooster69ph