azraelmd Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Chris newsome..= jared dilinger...better shooting....would have wanted him to stay one more year pa sana sa ateneo...para mas gumaling sumalaksak...pag nagimprove sya....assured na top 3 pick sa draft sana...deadly trio sana sa ateneo with ravena newsome and tolentino...oh well baka blessing in disguise napaaga sya magpadraft...baka sa ginebra sya gumaling ng todo... 1 Quote Link to comment
Kazekage.Gaara Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 For me...bragging rights ng kahit anong team yun masungkit ang AFC....dapat ito ang targetin ng ginebra...oo nga pala...when was the last time na nagchampion ang ginebra sa AFC?2006-2007 Philippine Cup sir. Quote Link to comment
daphne loves derby Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 (edited) Yung promotion "kuno" ni Chua is something to wonder also. That sports director position was the one held previously by Noli Eala in which he decides on the 3 teams and also on other sports related activities ng SMC outside the PBA.. Maybe it is a boot position para di siya makialam sa PBA teams and yung outside activities na lang ang binigay sa kanya besides may mga team govs at team managers naman. CFL was on the wrong end of an unlucky conference. What if kung hindi injured si Greg at Japhet nung first few games? will the result be diff? who knows.. And the Abueva incident, di ba yun ang hinahanap nating coach dati? yung may balls? ala Yeng Guiao na astig? bakit ngayon yun ang ginagawang dahilan para alisin siya? I like his guts para maibangko yung 2 diva and make them mum on social media specially diva47. Its his 1st conference only, cmon. He also have to deal with an import na ayaw makipagbanggaan at sobrang nag-iingat kung kailan mas kailangang kailangan. Having Tim Cone is a blessing, yet can also be a curse at the start. Remember, the divas hate the triangle, they said it publicly during interviews before thats why they booted Cariaso out. And I dont expect them to be a champion in his 1st conference dahil maririnig na naman natin ang salitang "adjust, jell, nangangapa" for sure. Yeng Guiao for now i think is impossible for he is under contract sa ROS, maybe the talks is after his contract expired until who knows? Kung ang motibo ni RSA is to finally focus on Ginebra since ang SMB ay stable na at ang Star ay naka grandslam na, then that is good news to all of us. I dont think Webb is more capable than Johnny A and Richard del Rosario, his longtime assistants. Lets see. Edited July 20, 2015 by daphne loves derby Quote Link to comment
daphne loves derby Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Tim Cone to Ginebra may be a bad idea http://rivals.ph/basketball/pba/2015/07/17/38092/tim-cone-to-ginebra-may-be-a-bad-idea/ MANILA — As of this writing, nothing has been set in stone yet, but various outlets have reported that the PBA’s winningest coach, Tim Cone, will be transferring from the Star Hotshots to the league’s most popular, but floundering, team, Barangay Ginebra.If, indeed, that deal pushes through, Cone will be joining the Hotshots’ sister team, a team that has not won a title since the 2008 Fiesta Conference and that has changed coaches almost as frequently as Taylor Swift changes boyfriends.It’s bad enough that the Gin Kings’ capriciousness is comparable to Swift’s fickleness, but now they’re actually planning on dragging Cone into the mess.I say this is a bad idea on several levels, and, well, as one of my friends said on social media today, let’s just hope coach Tim likes his vegetables.This is a potentially bad idea for coach Tim because he’ll go back to square one with a team that, though loaded with talent, has been known more for its impatience rather than its depth.Let’s face it – Ginebra is a shell of its former, glorious self.And the legendary “never say die” spirit?Newsflash: it left this team a long time ago, and I see that even a coach as magnificent as coach Tim will find it extremely hard to bring it back.You see, Ginebra is maybe the most impatient team this league has ever seen — at least based on their recent moves and changes. I mean, the Gin Kings have gone through seven different coaches in the past six seasons: Siot Tangquincen, Jong Uichico, Alfrancis Chua, Ato Agustin, Jeffrey Cariaso, Juno Sauler (c’mon, right?), and Frankie Lim.Does coach Tim really want to be the next one in line?Sure, Tim Cone is arguably the best coach the PBA has ever seen, but, judging by the way Ginebra has pretty much bungled many major decisions the past few seasons, even he can find himself in the franchise’s crosshairs if he doesn’t deliver a title within the next few conferences.In spite of Ginebra’s depth and size, this will be made difficult by the fact that coach Tim’s play style of choice — the triangle offense — tends to take quite some time to “master.” Also, that type of offense tends to diminish the role of score-heavy point guards, and Ginebra has two of those in LA Tenorio and Sol Mercado. It will be interesting to see how long it will take for coach Tim to make things work and produce results — if at all.In the short term, I don’t think the Cone-Ginebra combo will work, at least not without some tweaking in the Kings’ roster. For one, they’ll need better wingmen. Mark Caguioa, the undisputed face of this franchise, can probably be a solid fit for coach Tim’s desired offense, but I don’t see guys like Mac Baracael and Chris Ellis having the necessary consistency in their perimeter game to be able to stretch the defense and complement coach Tim’s play style. Maybe if they get someone like Chris Lutz or JC Intal, or perhaps luck out in the draft and land Ray Parks (should he join and should Ginebra be able to steal a top 2 or 3 pick) or Chris Newsome, things can look up, but, by and large, I find it hard to imagine the Kings hoisting a title in coach Tim’s first full season.Oh wait, did I just assume coach Tim will actually get to coach the most schizophrenic squad in the PBA for a full season? I’m delusional, right?I don’t even want to look too far ahead and theorize that coach Tim and the Kings will eventually win a title somewhere down the road. I mean, coach Tim is pushing 60, other teams are bound to get much stronger, that Tenorio-Mercado combo still has a lot of chinks, Greg Slaughter has been left behind by June Mar Fajardo, and, again, the terms “patience” and “Ginebra” seem to naturally not go in the same sentence.Good luck, coach Tim. You’ll need it. This can turn bad pretty soon because, well, we are talking about the Gin Kings. — Rivals 2015 Quote Link to comment
the riddick Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Tim Cone to Ginebra may be a bad idea http://rivals.ph/basketball/pba/2015/07/17/38092/tim-cone-to-ginebra-may-be-a-bad-idea/ i have read this article and its not worthy posting it here, the author doesn't know what he is saying, he doesn't know the positive effect or impact of having a multi-titled coach to a team that already hungry for a title, and definitely this author doesn't like Ginebra. Quote Link to comment
bughaw1 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 sa totoo lang hindi maganda yung ililipat si tim cone sa ginebra tama yung article,napaka impatient ng ginebra. we have to wait for the team to gel and to work like a machine. parang manufactured ang dating if we are forcing pieces that is not really fit for the team just to win a title. sayang lang at hindi binigyan ng mas mahabang pagkakataon si frankie lim. ibig ba sabihin kung di mag champion ginebra under kay cone this afc eh tatanggalin din sya agad agad...i love ginebra pero sana wag pinapattern sa san miguel o hotshots. Quote Link to comment
Bilyards Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Maybe discipline need ng barangay, every season same scenario eh, I think the team is good already just someone or something to make them work together as one unit esp on final minutes. Quote Link to comment
bughaw1 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 its official.....tim cone is the new ginebra coach. 1 Quote Link to comment
junix Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 (edited) http://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/news/tim-cone-is-new-ginebra-coach-confirms-ramon-ang-smb-big-boss-transfer-jason-webb-star-purefoods-frankie-lim it will not be a magical turnaround...but i expect ginebra to do better than its previous showings. time for coach tim to put the right pieces. Edited July 20, 2015 by junix Quote Link to comment
bughaw1 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 http://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/news/tim-cone-is-new-ginebra-coach-confirms-ramon-ang-smb-big-boss-transfer-jason-webb-star-purefoods-frankie-limat least binigyan ni rsa ng 2 years si tim cone hehe. Quote Link to comment
Kazekage.Gaara Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Eto yung inaabangan kong next big news pagbalik ni Cone galing US: Sources said a revamp of the Ginebra lineup is also forthcoming as Cone puts the pieces together on a team that will have three months to adopt to his triangle offense.Read more at http://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/news/tim-cone-is-new-ginebra-coach-confirms-ramon-ang-smb-big-boss-transfer-jason-webb-star-purefoods-frankie-lim#wRBiF3zQayQ7dD26.99 Sino sino ang matutuluyan na? Si LA? Si Baracael? O yung mga bench warmers? Quote Link to comment
bughaw1 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 may bitbit kaya sya aside kay richard del rosario and johnny a. Quote Link to comment
Kazekage.Gaara Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 may bitbit kaya sya aside kay richard del rosario and johnny a. Well chief, panigurado. Based dun sa article ni Snowie, revamp daw eh, to be "triangle friendly". Quote Link to comment
vienvenido Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 http://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/news/tim-cone-is-new-ginebra-coach-confirms-ramon-ang-smb-big-boss-transfer-jason-webb-star-purefoods-frankie-lim it will not be a magical turnaround...but i expect ginebra to do better than its previous showings. time for coach tim to put the right pieces. Fully agree.... Quote Link to comment
vienvenido Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Ginebra fans are not impatient...We are patiently waiting... tama diba??? hehehe Impatient ang owner ng Ginebra.... Quote Link to comment
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