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ang Ginebra dati, panahon pa nila Jawo, Ampalayo, Rey Cuenco, Loyzaga brothers, Leo isaac, Terry Saldana, Rudy DIstrito at iba pa, kahit talunan sila, gustong gusto pa din sila ng mga fans dahil sa Never Say Die attitude nila, patay kung patay! no easy baskets, buhos sila kung maglaro.

 

pero ngayon, mas mga bata, athletic, mabibilis, matatangkad ang Ginebra pero talunan pa din! paano kung maglaro parang larong mayaman! takot yata magasgasan ang mga balat nila, kaya pinapanood na lang yung mga sumasalaksak at duma dunk sa harapan nila, pati mga nagti 3 point shot, pinapanood na lang din!

 

dati dati lagi naghahabol palagi ang Ginebra sa ending, at minsan nananalo pa.... ngayon baligtad na, banderang kapos tayo! pagdating ng 4th quarter nakakahabol at naiiwanan na ang Ginebra.

 

 

I agree! dati puso kung maglaro.

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ang Ginebra dati, panahon pa nila Jawo, Ampalayo, Rey Cuenco, Loyzaga brothers, Leo isaac, Terry Saldana, Rudy DIstrito at iba pa, kahit talunan sila, gustong gusto pa din sila ng mga fans dahil sa Never Say Die attitude nila, patay kung patay! no easy baskets, buhos sila kung maglaro.

 

pero ngayon, mas mga bata, athletic, mabibilis, matatangkad ang Ginebra pero talunan pa din! paano kung maglaro parang larong mayaman! takot yata magasgasan ang mga balat nila, kaya pinapanood na lang yung mga sumasalaksak at duma dunk sa harapan nila, pati mga nagti 3 point shot, pinapanood na lang din!

 

dati dati lagi naghahabol palagi ang Ginebra sa ending, at minsan nananalo pa.... ngayon baligtad na, banderang kapos tayo! pagdating ng 4th quarter nakakahabol at naiiwanan na ang Ginebra.

 

i have to agree on this post. the ragtag ginebra team of jawo before played with all its heart everynight. kahit na tambak nakikipagpalitan pa sila ng mukha...dive sa bola...no easy shots...no uncontested shots...no slams in front of your face. laban lang ng laban with the goal of giving fans a good game. bgk's present frontline of greg, japeth, baracael and ellis is certainly an upgrade of the old frontline of saldaña, chito, ampalayo and gonzalgo...skills-wise. ganun din sa backcourt if we compare tenorio, caguioa and helterbrand with isaac, distrito and mukesh advani. unfortunately for the present crop, they lack the heart which the old gang had...not to mention they had a SONNY JAWORSKI to push them. ito yatang aspeto na ito ang hindi maituturo ng coaching staff ng ginebra ngayon.

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if only Ginebra can play to the level of San MigCoffee............Ginebra has all the materials much more powerful than that of San Mig

 

...but then san mig coffee has a tim cone. i'd probably say, if only ginebra has the big j to push the players to their full potential.

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...but then san mig coffee has a tim cone. i'd probably say, if only ginebra has the big j to push the players to their full potential.

 

I think Cariaso is a clone of Tim Cone. The thing is parang ang players ang hindi gumagalaw. There were instances wherein the instructions of Cariaso always went puuffffftt kasi parang naging larong mayaman ang Barangay with the exception of Knettle (tama ba name), Barracael, Monfort, at baka si Forrester. Kaya lang ang liliit nila. Si JR Reyes lang nakikita kong barako maglaro na malaki. Kung kagaya lang ni Manuel ng Alaska maglaro sina Slaughter at Aguilar.

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I think Cariaso is a clone of Tim Cone. The thing is parang ang players ang hindi gumagalaw. There were instances wherein the instructions of Cariaso always went puuffffftt kasi parang naging larong mayaman ang Barangay with the exception of Knettle (tama ba name), Barracael, Monfort, at baka si Forrester. Kaya lang ang liliit nila. Si JR Reyes lang nakikita kong barako maglaro na malaki. Kung kagaya lang ni Manuel ng Alaska maglaro sina Slaughter at Aguilar.

 

precisely my point chief. pag Xs and Os ang pinag-usapan wala akong masasabi kay jeff. ang problema lang ay hindi siya yung tipong pwedeng mang-sermon ng players niya. ang dapat sa ginebra yung katulad ni yeng guiao.

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precisely my point chief. pag Xs and Os ang pinag-usapan wala akong masasabi kay jeff. ang problema lang ay hindi siya yung tipong pwedeng mang-sermon ng players niya. ang dapat sa ginebra yung katulad ni yeng guiao.

 

 

baka hindi bagay kila slaughter and aguilar ang style ni vice-gov guiao kasi finesse players ang mga yun

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baka hindi bagay kila slaughter and aguilar ang style ni vice-gov guiao kasi finesse players ang mga yun

 

you may have a point there chief...these guys may be finesse players but when you have a 6'11" center and a 6'9" power forward, certainly uncontested lay-ups and in your face slams are unforgivable. at the very least these guys are expected to protect the rim. di naman natin sinasabing ala-belga ang depensa...just give a semblance of a decent defense.

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pagbigyan muna natin si Japeth sa kanyang performance na pinakikita..

 

imo malay natin umiiwas lng mascout dahil sa nalalapit na FIBA

 

maaring iwas din sa injury dahil na rin sa nalalapit na FIBA

 

ito'y pawang obserbasyon lng pero pagkatapos ng FIBA at ganun pa rin ang mama ay ibang usapan na po ito..

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Konti lang ang superstar ng naging nsd ang gins noon.... I think jawo and arnaiz lang ang legits... What they had was a good supporting cast.... Then there was the team na nakilala talaga natin... Loyzaga bro, cuenco, distrito, gonzalgo, jawo et al.... Hard workers and talagang nsd.... I remember nung 1986 championship game lamang manila beer ng 2 points... 2 seconds na lang, ang sabi ni jawo "2 sec is a lot of time" habang nagdesign sya ng play.... Na pa overtime nila yun...

 

Ngayon angnakikita ko 7 sa 12 ng gins eh "superstar".... Baka senyorito... Taga shoot ng bola.... Mahihirapan sila manalo pag ganun.... Walang depensa at rebound....

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hindi pwede i reason out na bago kasi ang coach ng Ginebra ngayon, coz look at Alaska team, same scenario, bago din ang coach nila, pero muntik na sila umabot sa Championship! kung hindi nga lang nadulas si JV casio sa last fast break attempt nya nung Game 4, malamang Alaska na ang nasa Finals! pero look at alaska players during Game 5. Tatlong key players nila ang wala (Thoss, Espinas and Casio) pero laban pa din sila until the last second! hindi sila bumitaw. sana bumalik din ang ganung attitude ng Ginebra next season.

 

very well said chief...kahit anong galing ng coach sa paggawa ng mga plays...kahit anong galing ng coach sa Xs and Os...kung wala naman puso o kabuhay-buhay man lang ang mga manlalaro, wala pa din mangyayari. iba yung duma-dive sa bola o kaya nakikipagbanggaan sa ilalim para makuha yung rebound kaysa sa tumitingin lang at nanonood ng mga nagla-layup. tingin ko nga diyan what ginebra needs is a fiery coach para mawala na yung sinasabing larong mayaman. imho i'd still say the big j would be the best fit for this team.

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