darksoulriver Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 ^Quezon city na lng ata ang may Pag-asa hehehe ang lamya ng depensa against Bolts nkkadismaya manood khit sa TV. every team knows how to play against OJ if Coach FL hindi magbabago ng diskarte sa opensa aba sabi ko nga forecast na lng next season kung itrade si Greg.. itrade na agad! Quote Link to comment
RED2018 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 ***IT IS IMPERATIVE NA MANALO TAYO IN ALL OF OUR REMAINING GAMES. ANY LOSS WILL OUTRIGHT ELIMINATE US. THE BEST RECORD WE WILL END UP WITH IS 5 WINS, 6 LOSSES*** AS SUCH, HINDI PERPEKTO ANG BASKETBALL, SO THE SCENARIOS I HAVE WILL COVER EACH AND EVERY POSSIBILITY NA MERON TAYO. Eto yung remaining games na we should be VERY concerned about. 1. Star Hotshots vs. TNT a. If TNT wins, they will be at 5-5. Star, 3-6. b. If Star wins, 4-5. TNT, 4-6. Preferred outcome: TNT must win. Less complications sa dulo. 2. ROS vs. KIA a. If ROS wins, 6-4. Kia, 4-5. b. Kia wins, 5-4. ROS, 5-5. Preferred outcome: Either way, tinalo natin pareho itong dalawang team, so if the quotient system comes in due to a tiebreak, lamang tayo. 3. Barako Bull Energy vs. Barangay Ginebra San Miguel. MUST WIN. NO OTHER ACCEPTABLE RESULT. 4. KIA vs. TNT a. Kia wins, 6-4 or 5-5. TNT, 5-6 or 4-7. b. TNT wins, 6-5 or 5-6. Kia, 5-5 or 4-6. Preferred outcome: TNT must win. A win by Kia will make things a bit... complicated. 5. Barako Bull Energy vs. NLEX Road Warriors. a. If Barako wins, 7-4. NLEX, 2-8. b. NLEX wins, 3-7. Barako, 6-5. Preferred outcome: Barako must win. A win by NLEX will make things a lot... complicated. 6. Star Hotshots vs. Barako Bull Energy. a. If Star wins, 5-5 or 4-6. b. Barako wins, 7-4. Preferred outcome: BARAKO MUST WIN. 7. Meralco Bolts vs. ROS a. Meralco wins, 6-4. ROS, 6-5 or 5-6. b. ROS wins, 7-4 or 6-5. Meralco at 5-5. Preferred outcome: A Meralco win should help us in the long run. 8. Star Hotshots vs. Blackwater Elite. a. If Star wins, 6-5 or 5-6. b. If Blackwater wins, Star at 5-6 or 4-7. Preferred outcome: Praying to the basketball gods that Blackwater wins. A win by... nevermind will make things... interesting. 9. Kia vs. Meralco a. Kia wins, 7-4, or 5-6. Meralco 5-6. b. Meralco wins, 7-4 or 6-5. Kia at 5-6 or 4-7. Preferred: Meralco win. 10. GINEBRA vs. NLEX. MUST WIN. NO OTHER ACCEPTABLE RESULT. So with those results in mind, eto na yung magiging standings at the end of the elimination phase. BLACKWATER - ELIMINATED. #12. STAR HOTSHOTS REMAINING GAMES: EITHER AT 3-8 (eliminated), 4-7, OR 5-6 (tied). Quotient: -7. Talk N' Text Tropang Texters REMAINING GAMES: 6-5 OR 5-6 (tied). Quotient: -4. NLEX ROAD WARRIORS, one loss, they end at 10 or 11. KIA CARNIVAL REMAINING GAMES: 7-4, 6-5, 5-6 (tied) OR 4-7. quotient: +7 MERALCO BOLTS REMAINING GAMES: 7-4, 6-5, OR 5-6 (TIED) QUOTIENT: -3. RAIN OR SHINE REMAINING GAMES: 7-4, 6-5, 5-6 (TIED) QUOTIENT: +12. So in this case, TNT and Meralco must win their last two assignments, while Ginebra winning the last two para Ginebra can end up at number 8. If Blackwater somehow beats Star, Ginebra ends at number 7.Wow! what a comprehensive analysis...is that you Dean Quinito Henson? hehe! Quote Link to comment
joeturts Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 May rumor na ba kung ittrade si Alfrancis Chua? Hahaha. Sorry Bro, but I think Chualay is a better coach versus his successors.... he was able bring the best of BGK before the twin towers came in, that is , BGK went to the finals, though they did'nt win the championship... Quote Link to comment
joeturts Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 ^Quezon city na lng ata ang may Pag-asa hehehe ang lamya ng depensa against Bolts nkkadismaya manood khit sa TV. every team knows how to play against OJ if Coach FL hindi magbabago ng diskarte sa opensa aba sabi ko nga forecast na lng next season kung itrade si Greg.. itrade na agad! WHy trade? BGK's previous coaches was able to motivate GWSlaughter and became productive... now that becomes a challenge to FL. Quote Link to comment
RED2018 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Sorry Bro, but I think Chualay is a better coach versus his successors.... he was able bring the best of BGK before the twin towers came in, that is , BGK went to the finals, though they did'nt win the championship.....and to think that we have OJ- arguably the best import of this conference Quote Link to comment
joeturts Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Kulang sa tactic si coach FL...or di pa nila kuha ang chemistry (as a result of papalit-palit ng coach) I agree .... kunin ang batang Trillo as coach coz he is a good bench tactician. Quote Link to comment
joeturts Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Yup!!! Yan ang quote ni FL kaya he prefers mercado over yeo...pero look at what has sol done lately compared with yeo.....as mentioned sa mga previous posts ko..i was very happy when gin traded for yeo...then got so frustrated with how the inutile coach used him...then FL with guns blazing suddenly traded for sol....was good for the first two games...pero ngayon ala na...while yeo has been superb... OT...for those wondering or havent seen troy rosario plays...watch team sinag sa SEA games...magaling na bata...masipag...tama nga sabi nina sirs bughaw etc...a younger RDO with nice hops...drooling at the prospect of ginebra drafting him....sana... MAraming naglalaway na makuha si Troy .... all around ba naman. may defense and variety of offense pa... magaling sa ilalim both offense and defense. .. may shooting pa... Quote Link to comment
junix Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 i'll not be surprised if he even ends up being the no. 1 pick in lieu of tautua. Quote Link to comment
azraelmd Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 i'll not be surprised if he even ends up being the no. 1 pick in lieu of tautua.No.1 tautuaaNo.2 rosarioNo.3 norbert torres... May pagasa ba yun pick ng barako/ginebra na umabot ng #2? Rosario not erick menk...more of RDO with hops....if ever sa ginkings mapunta...SF/PF cya...then pwede na itrade si barracael...hehehe Quote Link to comment
azraelmd Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 (edited) I just have 2 questions on last night's loss.. 1.) Greg is playing well during the 1st 3Q (at last), and no one seems to stop him on the other side, so why benched him on the 4Q?2.) You know the ball is going to Emmet, so why assign SOL Mercado as the main defender? not once but 3x on a crucial play AFTER a timeout?- if ROS, Yeng will put Gabe- if Alaska, Compton will put Abueva- if Star, Tim will put Ping- If SMB, Leo will put Arwind- for GSM and FL, its SOL MERCADO?????? si ATO ba ang coach kagabi??? I have 30% hope on the team winning its last 2 games (against BB pa ung isa na atat na makalaban ang gsm)and 5% hope on making it to the playoffs.. Hehe...while i agree with your posts....However....I have 90% hope on the team winning its lasy 2 games...and another 90% hope on making it to the playoffs...NSD tayo eh Edited June 15, 2015 by azraelmd 1 Quote Link to comment
azraelmd Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 (edited) Off night si oj ..... i hope he regains his bearings sa 2 hul8ng laro at magsabay sabay sila ni japeth at greg... Hi-low play plus double low post ang dapat bread and butter play ng gins.... wag na nilang pag dribble in si kim and set a lot of pick for oj....+1000 Lots of picks for both kim and OJ...especially with kim....kaso parang tamad magsipag bigay ng picks ang mga players eh...si marcelo brondial japhet lang ang nagpipick....oo nga pala pati si dorian with his bone crushing pick !!! Edited June 15, 2015 by azraelmd Quote Link to comment
darksoulriver Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 +1000 Lots of picks for both kim and OJ...especially with kim....kaso parang tamad magsipag bigay ng picks ang mga players eh...si marcelo brondial japhet lang ang nagpipick....oo nga pala pati si dorian with his bone crushing pick !!! ang lamya ng depensa... nalulusutan ng mga PG for easy layups, yung mga offensive rebounds+points papano mananalo? very hesitant tumira yung kim khit open na sya! mark man na si OJ so dapat magisip nman ng ibang play si FL.. i dont think the last 2 games will be an easy game para sa BGK.... 1 Quote Link to comment
daphne loves derby Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 No.1 tautuaaNo.2 rosarioNo.3 norbert torres... May pagasa ba yun pick ng barako/ginebra na umabot ng #2? Rosario not erick menk...more of RDO with hops....if ever sa ginkings mapunta...SF/PF cya...then pwede na itrade si barracael...hehehe RDO with hops OR a Taller/Longer Arwind Santos..If Troy would end up being picked by another team, i trade si Baracael+Marcelo bilang kapalit! hehe.. Quote Link to comment
daphne loves derby Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Hehe...while i agree with your posts....However....I have 90% hope on the team winning its lasy 2 games...and another 90% hope on making it to the playoffs...NSD tayo eh ang sakit na kasing umasa dre, hehe.. +1 year sa title drought...And I am beginning to question FL's capacity/fit to the team. But I don't support any changes in the coaching staff for the next 3 years (9 conferences)Regarding player movements, I think we just need a reliable SF who can score and defend at the same time (Rosario na to!) Quote Link to comment
bughaw1 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 I just have 2 questions on last night's loss.. 1.) Greg is playing well during the 1st 3Q (at last), and no one seems to stop him on the other side, so why benched him on the 4Q?2.) You know the ball is going to Emmet, so why assign SOL Mercado as the main defender? not once but 3x on a crucial play AFTER a timeout?- if ROS, Yeng will put Gabe- if Alaska, Compton will put Abueva- if Star, Tim will put Ping- If SMB, Leo will put Arwind- for GSM and FL, its SOL MERCADO?????? si ATO ba ang coach kagabi??? I have 30% hope on the team winning its last 2 games (against BB pa ung isa na atat na makalaban ang gsm)and 5% hope on making it to the playoffs.. di ba sabi ni fl great defender si sol hehe. Quote Link to comment
junix Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 ang lamya ng depensa... nalulusutan ng mga PG for easy layups, yung mga offensive rebounds+points papano mananalo? very hesitant tumira yung kim khit open na sya! mark man na si OJ so dapat magisip nman ng ibang play si FL.. i dont think the last 2 games will be an easy game para sa BGK.... i agree chief...it will not be a stroll in the park for ginebra. definitely these last 2 games will define the character of ginebra. do they still have what it takes to win? Quote Link to comment
bughaw1 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 i agree chief...it will not be a stroll in the park for ginebra. definitely these last 2 games will define the character of ginebra. do they still have what it takes to win? they have the right tools,sa execution na lang nagkakatalo. Quote Link to comment
junix Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 they have the right tools,sa execution na lang nagkakatalo.nkie that's true chief...execution has been ginebra's waterloo...unfortunately even coach frankie has not solved this one. Quote Link to comment
bughaw1 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 that's true chief...execution has been ginebra's waterloo...unfortunately even coach frankie has not solved this one. sana ma solve na,on paper,ginebra is one of the pbas strongest teams. si jaworski na lang ang hinihintay. Quote Link to comment
*kalel* Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Parang totoo.... sa malayo, parang hindi alam ng mga players para i execute kung ano man ang i execute.... Quote Link to comment
azraelmd Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Isa lang ang alam nilang iexecute...yun ibigay kay OJ and get out of the way plays....unfortunately..sablay na yun play na yun... Quote Link to comment
junix Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 sana ma solve na,on paper,ginebra is one of the pbas strongest teams. si jaworski na lang ang hinihintay. kung pinahawak kay jaworski noon pa ang ginebra, at di na nag-eksperimento kay ato, malamang nag-champion na tayo hehehehe Quote Link to comment
bughaw1 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 akala yata ni fl eh college ball pa din ang kino coach nya hehe. i hope mag champion naman uli in our lifetime. missing the times noong nananalo pa ang ginebra. Quote Link to comment
avi_sala Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Troy Rosario and Almond Vosotros in a Ginebra line-up are interesting prospect.... Quote Link to comment
*kalel* Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Sa palagay ko, execution is affected by how a coach relates to his players.... and fl should relate better to his players... Is it just me pero kung mapapansin nyo sa huddles, pagtinatawag ni lim mga players, most of the time he calls them by their surnames or full first names...pansinin nyo si cone, jawo, dalupan, jong and black... nickname ang tawag nila sa mga players nila...sometimes this helps and look how they execute... Quote Link to comment
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