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For me okay na mag retire na si jayjay, his time is up already...

 

Mark Caguioa can still play pero hindi na dapat siya ang go to guy dahil check na ang laro nya...

 

I would retain Japhet, Greg and Chris Ellis, si Ellis, perfect sila for 1, 2 and 3 positions, kelangan lang i groom ng mabuti katulad ni Forrester.

 

Si Baracael? dapat 2nd unit na lang, takot ma injure, puro tira lang sa tres ang pinag gagawa eh hindi naman mataas ang % sa tres.

 

okay na din na tinanggal na si Ato... puro kahihiyan lang pinag gagawa nya. dapat dito Utility Boy na lang...

 

okay din mabigyan ng chance si Frankie Lim, he gave 4 NCAA championships with San Beda, at na ban siya dahil nakipag suntukan siya sa kapwa nya coach sa volleyball team, meaning matapang sya at may guts pumalag! yung disiplina nya ay kelangan ng Ginebra, dapat may balls sya magalit at magmura kapag palpak ang pinag gagawa ng mga players nya kagaya ng ginagawa nila Guiao at Tim Cone. dapat iparamdam nya sa mga tao nya na very costly ang magkamali or magka error during dying minutes of the 4th quarter.

 

sana lang magaling sya magbalasa ng tao kung saan mabibigyan na ng playing time ulit si Brondial at Forrester. i'm quite excited sa coaching staff ni Frankie Lim, kahit ayaw ko sa kanya dahil madalas sila magbanggaan ni Jawo during their playing days, pero kung magiging strict siya at disiplinado, ay okay na din dahil ito ang need ng team ngayon.

 

sana lang makakuha sila ng magaling na import na ka level ni Blakely at Reid. #3 position is very beneficial sa line up nila since magagamit na naman ang twin tower ng sabay.

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trade rumor la at pringle: lugi ang ginebra sa tingin ko.... una, pringle is not a pg... who would start or run the team sa court? Monfort?Urbiztondo? jj? to me all 3 are just relievers and might not be able to play major minutes.. kailangan ng isang pg na marunong mag set up... in pringle, they might gain a more potent scorer but a lesser play marker which they need... and kung diva lang, pringle is more of a diva, remember demanding a USD 20,000 salary? to me he is not a go to guy and a future headache... injured daw eh si la iron man na....

 

trading ellis? pwede kung si hodge or si dilinger or si anthony... pero di ba sabi ni non, ellis is not tradable? why not mold him as a defensive stopper...

 

si pena i trade nila kahit sa guard hehehehe or i retire na nila... pambihira.... we are lacking a reliable back up after billy... sayang si brondial

 

i know hindi pa proven si f lim and rival sya ni jawo dati, pero i admire his grit and tapang... pero something in me is saying baka sya na....

 

agree... i really dont know why many people want to remove LA from the team. Nung huling nag finals, walang MC47 at injured si JJ wala pang slaughter and only LA is running the show (Candidate for BPC and MVP that year), double double sya lagi in points and assists.

 

Pringle is unproven, inconsistent, no leadership yet and soft, di bat ang hinahanap natin ay toughness? LA is more tough, like previously stated, he is an ironman, kahit injured nag lalaro.

Kaya siguro nasa trading rumor block na naman to dahil nilalakad nung 2 pa star na diva dahil threat sa kanila. nak nam pucha talaga... puro sariling pampapa pogi ang inaatupag.

 

regarding ellis, i trade man or hindi, he has yet to show his TRUE potential i think.. Kung ma trade man, better get someone from the pick na lang or a defensive player instead of another scorer.

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agree... i really dont know why many people want to remove LA from the team. Nung huling nag finals, walang MC47 at injured si JJ wala pang slaughter and JJ is running the show (Candidate for BPC and MVP that year), double double sya lagi in points and assists.

 

Pringle is unproven, inconsistent, no leadership yet and soft, di bat ang hinahanap natin ay toughness? LA is more tough, like previously stated, he is an ironman, kahit injured nag lalaro.

Kaya siguro nasa trading rumor block na naman to dahil nilalakad nung 2 pa star na diva dahil threat sa kanila. nak nam pucha talaga... puro sariling pampapa pogi ang inaatupag.

 

regarding ellis, i trade man or hindi, he has yet to show his TRUE potential i think.. Kung ma trade man, better get someone from the pick na lang or a defensive player instead of another scorer.

tama....get the pick of barako. 3rd pick yun itrade nila kahit sino farm team naman ng smc group ang barako eh hehe. they can get the awesome oso norbert torres..paglabas ni japeth at ni greg ang ipapasok ay si mamaril at torres grabe ...ang humarang giba.
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tama....get the pick of barako. 3rd pick yun itrade nila kahit sino farm team naman ng smc group ang barako eh hehe. they can get the awesome oso norbert torres..paglabas ni japeth at ni greg ang ipapasok ay si mamaril at torres grabe ...ang humarang giba.

Di ako bilib kay Norbert ...baka mas maganda pang kunin yun Troy Rosario na naglaro sa NU.

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Ok si norbert...isipin mo belga na mas matangkad and mas may potential...however masasayang lang cya pag off the bench eh...mas tama na kumuha ng SF nlang ....or better yet get the third pick tapos itrade for player/players ex yun pascual from SMB tsaka isang player pa...or baka pwedeng itempt yun TnT with the number 3 pick for alas...

 

Hmn...it seems..to borrow from sir photographer ...may tenorio block tayo tska pringle block hehehe....

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Di ako bilib kay Norbert ...baka mas maganda pang kunin yun Troy Rosario na naglaro sa NU.

si norbert kasi banger..si troy parang ginagaya nya laro ni nowitzki which is ok din naman...tingin ko kasi sir di na kelangan ng scoring big men anjan naman na si japet at gregzilla...ang kelangan eh yung kasama ni mamaril..wala epekto dorian eh....durian na pinya pa at kangkong pa hahaha..puede din sf na abueva type....si earl scottie thompson.ok din yun imo sir.:-)
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Ok si norbert...isipin mo belga na mas matangkad and mas may potential...however masasayang lang cya pag off the bench eh...mas tama na kumuha ng SF nlang ....or better yet get the third pick tapos itrade for player/players ex yun pascual from SMB tsaka isang player pa...or baka pwedeng itempt yun TnT with the number 3 pick for alas...

 

Hmn...it seems..to borrow from sir photographer ...may tenorio block tayo tska pringle block hehehe....

 

L.A. is much more of an asset to the team. The way I see it, keep Tenorio and remove Mark and JayJay. Ang laki pang matitipid sa salary cap. Forget about Pringle. The guy's prone to injury in the past, now injured na naman. Walang leadership yung bata. Keep Ellis. Nabulok lang naman siya kay Ato. Brondial yung bata na sayang na sayang dahil din kay Ato. Nabobola kasi nuong dalawang matatandang diva si Ato (although for the record mahina talaga siyang coach). Frankie Lim? Ihanda na ng Ginebra ang mga penalties sa technical fouls BUT he has the mouth of Jawo and Jarencio. As for the mind of a coach? We'll see to that PERO meron siya sa kanyang biodata four championships in a row. And I would like to see him shouting SHUT UP to Al Francis. Problem lang, alam naman natin maanghang bunganga ni Frankie, yung pusong mamon ni Aguilar. Baka maging the like of E.J. Feihl na kapag minumura at sinisigawan ni Jawo sa court parang pusit na inalis mo sa tubig. Ayaw nang gumalaw.

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Sa akin lang............Troy Rosario na lang kaysa kay Norbert Torres. More agile si Troy, kulang kay Nobert and hindi Belga si Torres. He's not that tough kagaya ni Belga. Parang Quinahan pa. Read this...........

 

http://sports.inquirer.net/167676/pba-legend-thinks-nu-standout-troy-rosario-will-be-a-legit-pba-star

 

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http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/marc-pingris-impressed-by-nus-troy-rosario-gusto-ko-siyang-gumalaw

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Tenorio for Pringle? May be ok, napuna ko kasi ke Tenorio parang gusto n'ya s'ya na lang lagi ang bida, me instances na libre na ang team mate n'ya pero he would still opt to take a shot or drive pero mintis naman. Tingin ko din dapat mag-retire na sina MC47 at Jay-Jay, i thank both of them for the fond memories noon along with E-Menk, i would hate to see play for another team and i guess na ganun din sila so better for them to retire or be given limited playing time. Keep Ellis and Ababou along with Brondial na me potential kaso nakalimutan ni Ato gamitin, heck maski si Mamaril nakalimutan ni Ato eh, they ought to do away away with Peña, malayo na s'ya sa Peña 7 or 10 years ago, sayang ang mga big men na tinapon ng Ginebra gaya nila Willy Wilson, Rico Villanueva at JR Reyes, those guys surely aren't lacking in toughness sa shaded area. As for Baracael, sayang din na player eto, remember noon ang kulang nila at player sa No. 3 spot and he fill that up, Greg and Japeth ought to learn more about footwork from a Jun Limpot o Danny I., 'di uubra 'yung puro laki lang pero kulang sa footwork at inside toughness. For me, they ought to keep Ellis, Yeo, Ababou, Baracael, Brondial, Slaughter and Aguilar dahil they need young players,Mamaril for his tougness/dirty work/s and give limited playing time to MC47 and Jay-Jay, let go of Peña, they also ought to hire a coach for Slaughter and Japeth who could teach them some inside moves

 

 

 

L.A. is much more of an asset to the team. The way I see it, keep Tenorio and remove Mark and JayJay. Ang laki pang matitipid sa salary cap. Forget about Pringle. The guy's prone to injury in the past, now injured na naman. Walang leadership yung bata. Keep Ellis. Nabulok lang naman siya kay Ato. Brondial yung bata na sayang na sayang dahil din kay Ato. Nabobola kasi nuong dalawang matatandang diva si Ato (although for the record mahina talaga siyang coach). Frankie Lim? Ihanda na ng Ginebra ang mga penalties sa technical fouls BUT he has the mouth of Jawo and Jarencio. As for the mind of a coach? We'll see to that PERO meron siya sa kanyang biodata four championships in a row. And I would like to see him shouting SHUT UP to Al Francis. Problem lang, alam naman natin maanghang bunganga ni Frankie, yung pusong mamon ni Aguilar. Baka maging the like of E.J. Feihl na kapag minumura at sinisigawan ni Jawo sa court parang pusit na inalis mo sa tubig. Ayaw nang gumalaw.

 

Welcome development ang pagkakapalit ni Frankie Lim ke Ato as head coach, panay nga ang tweet ko na sana palitan na si Ato dahil magaling nga s'yang player noon pero walang sinabi as a coach. Problema lang baka mag-usap sila lagi ni Chua and Yeo sa chinese at 'di maintindihan ng iba :lol:

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Ok si norbert...isipin mo belga na mas matangkad and mas may potential...however masasayang lang cya pag off the bench eh...mas tama na kumuha ng SF nlang ....or better yet get the third pick tapos itrade for player/players ex yun pascual from SMB tsaka isang player pa...or baka pwedeng itempt yun TnT with the number 3 pick for alas...

 

Hmn...it seems..to borrow from sir photographer ...may tenorio block tayo tska pringle block hehehe....

 

diyos ko po .. hindi po banger si torres. mas banger ba nga si rico villanueva diyan at kahit na matanda si Dorian lalamunin niya ng buhay sa ilalim si Torres.

 

Etong si Troy may perimeter game na malaki...magandang complement kay Greg para hindi ma double team sa ilalim. SI Japeth kasi inconsistent and perimeter game tapos medyo "soft" siya para sa aking kung pumoste

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L.A. is much more of an asset to the team. The way I see it, keep Tenorio and remove Mark and JayJay. Ang laki pang matitipid sa salary cap. Forget about Pringle. The guy's prone to injury in the past, now injured na naman. Walang leadership yung bata. Keep Ellis. Nabulok lang naman siya kay Ato. Brondial yung bata na sayang na sayang dahil din kay Ato. Nabobola kasi nuong dalawang matatandang diva si Ato (although for the record mahina talaga siyang coach). Frankie Lim? Ihanda na ng Ginebra ang mga penalties sa technical fouls BUT he has the mouth of Jawo and Jarencio. As for the mind of a coach? We'll see to that PERO meron siya sa kanyang biodata four championships in a row. And I would like to see him shouting SHUT UP to Al Francis. Problem lang, alam naman natin maanghang bunganga ni Frankie, yung pusong mamon ni Aguilar. Baka maging the like of E.J. Feihl na kapag minumura at sinisigawan ni Jawo sa court parang pusit na inalis mo sa tubig. Ayaw nang gumalaw.

 

Si Frankie as a player ...tough guy yan sa loob ng court. Physical din maglaro. Sana yon ang madala niya din bilang coach ng GSM ... di lang run and gun kundi physical din on the defensive end. Kung lalambot-lambot kasi ang players parang walang pagasang mag champion yan

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Si Frankie as a player ...tough guy yan sa loob ng court. Physical din maglaro. Sana yon ang madala niya din bilang coach ng GSM ... di lang run and gun kundi physical din on the defensive end. Kung lalambot-lambot kasi ang players parang walang pagasang mag champion yan

 

Got to agree with you on this, just look at smc noon, me banger sila in pingris and sanggalang kaya naka 4 straight titles, nang ma-injury si sanggalang tignan n'yo ang nangyari sa smc, before that ay ros na as we all knew is very very physical team, and recently nang mag-champion ang smb they also have a banger in semerade who had to go up against the likes of Abueva, Vic Manuel sa shaded area, si Mamaril nakalimutan na ni Ato, kung physical lang din ang laro 'di takot si Mamaril makipagpalitan ng mukha, mga ganyang klase ng player ang need ng Ginebra

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para sa akin, nagiinis na naman ang gins management... this is an opportunity to bring back jawo, pero they opted not to (me na threaten ba? baka si gov sa board).... anyway, lim might provide the toughness sa bench na lacking ke ato and jeff and maybe the experience and know how na lacking ke chua...

 

i do not believe in trading right now kasi magkakaroon na naman ng chemistry problem... pero kung halimbawa talagang makikinig ang management at talagang kailangan, maybe the following should be considered:

 

para sa akin keep japeth (i don't like him before pero nag improve sya), greg, LA, MC47 (me ibubuga pa ito under a tough coach), billy, yeo and baracael...

 

retire pena and JJ...

 

can be traded or i outline ang role sa team ng maige (sabi nga sa isang post gawing defensive anchors)- monfort, ellis, brondial, josh, bonus kung magiging ala tubid santos sila.. brondial is has the potential of another hatfield

 

trade ababou and forrester- sayang sila sa bench

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good for them. makikita na naten ang kaya nilang gawin yun nga lang against ginebra na...talagang walang galawan dun sa 2 vip ha.....very important pabigat hahaha. sana kayang kontrolin ni coach frankie yung dalawang diva na yan.
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official na ... Ababou + Forrester = Barako Bull's pick

Yes!!!!! Sabi ko nga eh.....hehehe.....so next is...anong gagawin nila with the number 3 pick? Trade nila for kevin alas? or alas + rosser for 3rd pick + dorian? For sure super tempting sa TnT yan 3rd pick na yan..pwede din ipalit sa kia...3rd pick + pena for their 2nd pick? Doable ba?(san na ba si sir bughaw) 0r...use it and draft for torres? Rosario? Newsome? scottie? kaso baka mabangko lang sila...also baka biglang may late entrees at magapply for the draft...since nakita nila na may 3rd pick ang ginebra....:)

official na ... Ababou + Forrester = Barako Bull's pick

Now ...ang problema nalang pag biglang lumakas si forrester and ababou sa barako......:(

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Yes!!!!! Sabi ko nga eh.....hehehe.....so next is...anong gagawin nila with the number 3 pick? Trade nila for kevin alas? or alas + rosser for 3rd pick + dorian? For sure super tempting sa TnT yan 3rd pick na yan..pwede din ipalit sa kia...3rd pick + pena for their 2nd pick? Doable ba?(san na ba si sir bughaw) 0r...use it and draft for torres? Rosario? Newsome? scottie? kaso baka mabangko lang sila...also baka biglang may late entrees at magapply for the draft...since nakita nila na may 3rd pick ang ginebra....:)

 

Now ...ang problema nalang pag biglang lumakas si forrester and ababou sa barako......:(

with banal at the helm of barako, we'll probably see the potentials of ababou and forrester. di lang talaga nabigyan ng pagkakataon na maglaro itong dalawa dahil sa dalawang senior citizens. honestly, jj and mark should now pass the responsibilities to lead the team to the young guys. they had their glory days, now it's time to take a back seat. it's your call frankie :)

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http://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/news/james-forrester-excited-to-prove-not-wasted-pick-ginebra-pba-trade-barako-dylan-ababou-first-round-pick

 

i hope there will be no regrets for ginebra. si ato lang talaga ang napaka-bobo @#!*$ but then, it would be unfair for the 2013 4th overall pick to be denied to play in the pba. so to forrester and ababou, masakit man makita, show your true worth under koy banal. you both deserve to play in the pba.

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