junix Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 inuulit ko mga ka-barangay...wala tayong patutunguhan kung si ato ang nakaupong coach. ang dami niyang sinasayang na players. tama yung isang nagpost. pinamigay si jr kapalit ni peña...pero di naman ginagamit. balang araw sina brondial, ababou, forrester, peña ay magiging grandmasters na nyahahaha Quote Link to comment
rickyfred Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Baracael can shoot pero ibabad mo para magbantay kay Thorton isa itong malaking kalokohan... buti kung wlang able player na pwedeng magbantay eh meron nman... bkit hindi muna si Dunnigan ang ngbantay naglalaba ako that time gusto kong ilagay sa leeg ni ato yung damit saka ko pilipitin BInabad kasi nila masyado si Baracael from 3rd quarter to 4th quarter naglaro, konti lang pahinga niya nung pinasok si Ellis, ikaw na fans kitang kita mo yung problema na tinitirahan lang sa labas si Baracael tapos si coach di man lang nakita yung mismatch na yun, 3rd quarter pa yun kitang kita nila di man lang nag adjust, pinabayaan nila gumawa ng career high si Thornton. Quote Link to comment
rickyfred Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 "WALANG MAGAWA?" anak ng baka talaga. coack ka tapos di mo alam mag-adjust?napaka-bobo talaga...di lang sa coaching bobo, pati sa pagsagot bobo din. ang liliit nina baracael at ellis...nagsalitan sa pagbantay kay thornton and they are not even hard-nosed defenders like a wilmer ong or a dante gonzalgo. @#!% namputsa...kahit siguro coach ng barangay namin nakita yung mismatch na yun. kung nabigyan sana ng isang matinding foul yung thornton baka nawala ang laro at swerte nya. with ato as coach, wala talagang mangyayari sa ginebra. Yung Thornton na yan di nga nakaporma sa Purefoods, alam kasi ni coach tim kung paano yan depensahan, samantalang coach natin maliit pa yung pinabantay, tapos sasabihin wala tayong magagawa naka zone yung player, dapat ang sinagot niya na lang naglalaro kasi ng chess yung iba kaya di ko na pinasok. Quote Link to comment
azraelmd Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Nde nman pang first five material si baracael eh...kung sa blackwater or kia pwede mo pa cyang ibabad....sabi nga...hanggat nagcocoach si ato alang mapupuntahan ang ginkings...sama mo na din hanggat babad si baracael caguioa at mahaba ang palying time ni jayjay kesa kina yeo and aguilar...alang patutunguhan ang Ginebra.... Nde ba pwedeng sumigaw ang mga gin fans ala new york knicks fan sa games ng Ginebra ng " Fire Ato, Fire Ato" 1 Quote Link to comment
azraelmd Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Oh db? ganyan ba ang comment ng coach na sinasabing karapat dapat pumalit ke cariaso at magdadala ng championship sa BGSM??? amputa naman Ramon Ang wag kang masyadong bumilib kay ato at long hair dahil sa nangyari kagabi, lahat sila dapat sibakin!!!!Parang interbarangay coach lang kung magbigay ng post game interview ah...ang lalim!!!! Lol Quote Link to comment
rickyfred Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Nde nman pang first five material si baracael eh...kung sa blackwater or kia pwede mo pa cyang ibabad....sabi nga...hanggat nagcocoach si ato alang mapupuntahan ang ginkings...sama mo na din hanggat babad si baracael caguioa at mahaba ang palying time ni jayjay kesa kina yeo and aguilar...alang patutunguhan ang Ginebra.... Nde ba pwedeng sumigaw ang mga gin fans ala new york knicks fan sa games ng Ginebra ng " Fire Ato, Fire Ato" Kawawa naman si coach ato pinagmumura siya dun sa fb pages ng Ginebra, problema kasi sa Ginebra yung 3 spot wala tayong pangdepensa sa 3 spot ng kalaban na matangkad at mabibilis, diyan tayo tinalo ng mvp teams, against meralco meron sila hodge at davis, against TNT may Rosser, against NLEX may Thornton, next game lagot na naman tayo sa 3 spot na yan against ROS, alam na kasi nila yung weakness ng Ginebra, di kasi pwede pagsabayin sina greg-dunigan-japeth babagal masyado, tatakbuhan naman tayo ng kalaban, kung ako sa Ginebra praktisin na nila yan triple tower na yan, wag na sila mag run and gun, bagalan yung laro, kahit mabawasan tayo ng shooter sa labas daanin na lang sa loob yung opensa, kung ginamit ni coach yung triple tower malamang di makakapuntos ng ganun yung Thornton, ipabantay kay japeth yan, tapos si Dunigan kay Asi, tapos si Greg kay Ramos, kung aalisin nila si Ramos tapos papalitan ng wingman na mabilis di gawin nila alisin din si greg, ganyan sana yung adjustment na ginawa nila. Quote Link to comment
azraelmd Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Thats why maganda sana yun kay cariaso...may set play na maasahan sana if ever na hinde maka run and gun...kaso mas magaling sina mark etc eh ayan si ato ang napala natin... Quote Link to comment
rickyfred Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 (edited) ^ Puro mura inabot ni coach ato dun sa fb pages ng Ginebra, buti dito konti lang haha...dun sa pex dami din galit na galit, pero ako di naman ako galit kay coach ato, kung tutuusin dun tayo talaga natalo sa 3 consecutive tunovers ng Ginebra resulting to easy fastbreak points, pinapabayaan lang nila umiskor si Thornton kasi lamang pa tayo nun, kaso pagdating ng 3mins until last 2 mins dun na tayo nilamangan ng NLEX, nakadalawang turnover yata si greg diyan sa crucial minutes na yan tapos yung isa kay Dunigan tumama sa paa niya yung bola, sama mo pa yung mga tira ni LA na halatang pagod na pagod, hindi man lang kasi pinagpahinga. Goodluck sa next game... Edited March 12, 2015 by rickyfred Quote Link to comment
photographer Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Baracael can shoot pero ibabad mo para magbantay kay Thorton isa itong malaking kalokohan... buti kung wlang able player na pwedeng magbantay eh meron nman... bkit hindi muna si Dunnigan ang ngbantay naglalaba ako that time gusto kong ilagay sa leeg ni ato yung damit saka ko pilipitin Tama. Para lang sa akin hindi ko matanggap yung second quarter three fouls na si Thorton. Kung sinuwag lang nila yun, for sure, tatawag at tatawag ng foul ang referee. Eh. wala eh. Walang utos from the bench. And JayJay, its time to hang up the jersey. Meron ka na sigurong naipon. Nagbago ka naman na per advice of Caguioa. Quote Link to comment
darksoulriver Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) Tama. Para lang sa akin hindi ko matanggap yung second quarter three fouls na si Thorton. Kung sinuwag lang nila yun, for sure, tatawag at tatawag ng foul ang referee. Eh. wala eh. Walang utos from the bench. And JayJay, its time to hang up the jersey. Meron ka na sigurong naipon. Nagbago ka naman na per advice of Caguioa. yun three fouls hindi nadagdagan putek... wla silang play para dumepensa si Thorton...... Jayjay and Mark should retire if not lend your time to some guys... Edited March 13, 2015 by darksoulriver 1 Quote Link to comment
photographer Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 ^ Puro mura inabot ni coach ato dun sa fb pages ng Ginebra, buti dito konti lang haha...dun sa pex dami din galit na galit, pero ako di naman ako galit kay coach ato, kung tutuusin dun tayo talaga natalo sa 3 consecutive tunovers ng Ginebra resulting to easy fastbreak points, pinapabayaan lang nila umiskor si Thornton kasi lamang pa tayo nun, kaso pagdating ng 3mins until last 2 mins dun na tayo nilamangan ng NLEX, nakadalawang turnover yata si greg diyan sa crucial minutes na yan tapos yung isa kay Dunigan tumama sa paa niya yung bola, sama mo pa yung mga tira ni LA na halatang pagod na pagod, hindi man lang kasi pinagpahinga. Goodluck sa next game... Sa tingin ko those turnovers were as a result of hingal kalabaw na yung players because of low level coaching. Nawala na sa huli mga shooting nila and mga moves kasi sa sobrang pagod. Samantala naglalabanan sa chess board sina Yeo, Japeth, Monfort, Forrester at Brondial sa bench. Take a look at the coaching strategy of Yeng Guiao, Compton and Cone. Talagang gamit na gamit to the max ang bench. Binibigyan ng pagkakataon. Lumalabas na tuloy ang talagang abilidad ng mga players nila. Ganda na sana ang rotation ng players ni Cariaso. Aral Tim Cone...........until nakialam ang ibang players ng Ginebra na ayaw sa triangle. 1 Quote Link to comment
photographer Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 yun three fouls hindi nadagdagan putek... wla silang play para dumepensa si Thorton...... Jayjay and Mark should retire if not lend your time to some guys... Tama. Kung gumawa ng play lang si Ato to give more balls kay Dannigan with instructions na kalabawin (of course not the offensive type foul) si Thorton (similar sa ginagawa ni Mamaril), baka umpisa pa lang ng third quarter foul trouble na si Thorton. Eh hindi. ................... Hindi na ba talaga puwede si Tommy Manotoc o si Baby Dalupan? Quote Link to comment
RED2018 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 I read somewhere na dapat hindi kay Ato ang sisi, kundi kay SAF Chief Napenas ...(pinoy humor nga naman haha!) Quote Link to comment
daphne loves derby Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 eto pa mga kabarangay, the best talaga si ato sumagot sa mga interview - BUGOK!!! 1. Tungkol sa pagpili kay JJ instead of Yeo; Agustin stressed he didn’t field Yeo during that crucial stretch of the game since he stuck with a two-point guard set-up in Tenorio and Helterbrand. “Wala namang dahilan,” Agustin said. “Kasi nag-two point guard lineup rin kami, tsaka si Jayjay ang ganda ng laro niya.” Helterbrand, playing his first game in over a month after being sidelined with an injury, did have five assists, but scored just three points on 1-of-5 shooting and added a steal in 25 minutes of play. (ano maganda sa larong ito ni JJ?? ung assist? eh kaya naman ibigay ni LA ung assist na un!)Read more at: http://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/news/ato-agustin-ginebra-basketball-nlex-five-players-decision-commissioners-cup-pba 2. About Baracael's defense and overused of players; Agustin decided to keep the quintet of LA Tenorio, Jayjay Helterbrand, Greg Slaughter, Mac Baracael, and import Michael Dunigan for the most part of the payoff period when the Kings squandered a big lead and led to their downfall against the Road Warriors, 96-90. “Wala na eh, nandun na sila eh. Naka-on the go na. Maganda na 'yung nilalaro nung (nasa court), so hindi na ako nag-gamble,” the Ginebra coach insisted. (anong maganda run eh 40pts na si thornton kalahati p lng ng 4th wala ka pa din gngwa??? ganun lang? wala lang??? - pusa ka talaga ato ka!) Agustin also made the decision to Baracael defend the red-hot Thornton one-on-one in the crucial stretch before giving way to Chris Ellis when it was too late. The Ginebra coach instead blamed the team’s collapse not on its lineup, but on three crucial turnovers that NLEX turned into a 14-1 salvo and flipped the game around. “We committed three crucial turnovers that NLEX all converted,” Agustin said. “We need to learn para ma-protektahan ang lead namin.”- HINDI MAWAWALA ANG LEAD KUNG TINUTUKAN MO ANG ONSLAUGHT NI THORNTON! KUNG 10 ANG LAMANG PA DIN BEFORE THE 3 TURNOVERS, 6 POINTS LANG SANA UN LAMANG PA DIN NG 4 PTS!!! KAYA NGA NAG TURNOVER NA SILA KASI PAGOD NA - SUNOG NA!!! BOBO KA TALAGA!!! Read more at: http://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/news/ato-agustin-ginebra-basketball-nlex-five-players-decision-commissioners-cup-pba Quote Link to comment
vkalbos Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Parang si dennis scott o kyle korver(dati) yan si baracael...taga tira lang ng tres....puro opensa lang..parang papel sa depensa...buti pa ang sandpaper magagasgasan ka eh...alang lateral movements..tapos takbong mayaman pa...gagawin mong import stopper?!?!? Hehe. Credit dun sa import ng NLEX. medyo napabilib nya ko dun sa fadeway nya sa elbow. parang IDOL Jordan ang nakita ko.. Mali talaga na si Baracael ang pinabantay dun... Most of NLEX import points came from outside shooting kaya tumaas ang morale at dun nagsimula yun laging go hard na sa paint kaya ang ending tustado si baracael. LA is right walang help defense. pansinin nyo pag nasa NLEX import ang bola ang luwang ng spacing ng NLEX to give way kasi nga kayang kayang kainin ng buhay si Baracael. Mas versatile si japeth to defend on NLEX import yun nga lang medyo off si ato at hindi nya napansin na kahit naka zone defense sila e yung forward nya e hirap tumakbo pag galing sa labas. puro pang post seal lang at hindi kaya na pag may kasamang sprint... Move on tayo mga idol.. Long Live GInebra pa din ako!!! Quote Link to comment
junix Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 eto pa mga kabarangay, the best talaga si ato sumagot sa mga interview - BUGOK!!! 1. Tungkol sa pagpili kay JJ instead of Yeo; Agustin stressed he didnt field Yeo during that crucial stretch of the game since he stuck with a two-point guard set-up in Tenorio and Helterbrand. Wala namang dahilan, Agustin said. Kasi nag-two point guard lineup rin kami, tsaka si Jayjay ang ganda ng laro niya. Helterbrand, playing his first game in over a month after being sidelined with an injury, did have five assists, but scored just three points on 1-of-5 shooting and added a steal in 25 minutes of play. (ano maganda sa larong ito ni JJ?? ung assist? eh kaya naman ibigay ni LA ung assist na un!) Read more at: http://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/news/ato-agustin-ginebra-basketball-nlex-five-players-decision-commissioners-cup-pba 2. About Baracael's defense and overused of players; Agustin decided to keep the quintet of LA Tenorio, Jayjay Helterbrand, Greg Slaughter, Mac Baracael, and import Michael Dunigan for the most part of the payoff period when the Kings squandered a big lead and led to their downfall against the Road Warriors, 96-90. Wala na eh, nandun na sila eh. Naka-on the go na. Maganda na 'yung nilalaro nung (nasa court), so hindi na ako nag-gamble, the Ginebra coach insisted. (anong maganda run eh 40pts na si thornton kalahati p lng ng 4th wala ka pa din gngwa??? ganun lang? wala lang??? - pusa ka talaga ato ka!) Agustin also made the decision to Baracael defend the red-hot Thornton one-on-one in the crucial stretch before giving way to Chris Ellis when it was too late. The Ginebra coach instead blamed the teams collapse not on its lineup, but on three crucial turnovers that NLEX turned into a 14-1 salvo and flipped the game around. We committed three crucial turnovers that NLEX all converted, Agustin said. We need to learn para ma-protektahan ang lead namin. - HINDI MAWAWALA ANG LEAD KUNG TINUTUKAN MO ANG ONSLAUGHT NI THORNTON! KUNG 10 ANG LAMANG PA DIN BEFORE THE 3 TURNOVERS, 6 POINTS LANG SANA UN LAMANG PA DIN NG 4 PTS!!! KAYA NGA NAG TURNOVER NA SILA KASI PAGOD NA - SUNOG NA!!! BOBO KA TALAGA!!! Read more at: http://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/news/ato-agustin-ginebra-basketball-nlex-five-players-decision-commissioners-cup-pba simple lang...pati nga tricycle drivers dito sa subdivision alam kung bakit natalo ang ginebra. it was not the three turnovers that doomed ginebra. IT WAS THE LACK OF DEFENSE ON THORNTON. thornton was already going berserk...yet no defensive adjustments were made. ato and his lieutenants were left in awe with thornton's performance. sabi ni ato swerte daw. @#!/% namputang sagot yan!!! Ergo...BOBO ANG COACH!!! manahimik ka na lang at huwag nang nagpapa-interview. It just shows your INCOMPETENCE!!! Quote Link to comment
rickyfred Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 simple lang...pati nga tricycle drivers dito sa subdivision alam kung bakit natalo ang ginebra. it was not the three turnovers that doomed ginebra. IT WAS THE LACK OF DEFENSE ON THORNTON. thornton was already going berserk...yet no defensive adjustments were made. ato and his lieutenants were left in awe with thornton's performance. sabi ni ato swerte daw. @#!/% namputang sagot yan!!! Ergo...BOBO ANG COACH!!! manahimik ka na lang at huwag nang nagpapa-interview. It just shows your INCOMPETENCE!!! haha mabilis pa daw kasi si JJ sir kaya binabad ni coach ato...tayo nga na nanonood alam natin kung san yung pagkukulang diba kung pwede nga lang magcoach ginawa na natin yun hehe...kawawa naman yung mga fans na nanonood gumagastos ng pera para makanood ng live tapos matatalo lang ng ganun, kaya ako di na masyado nanonood ng live hehe...pero pag pumasok Ginebra sa Finals naku po pila na naman yan sa ticketing booth. Quote Link to comment
junix Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 haha mabilis pa daw kasi si JJ sir kaya binabad ni coach ato...tayo nga na nanonood alam natin kung san yung pagkukulang diba kung pwede nga lang magcoach ginawa na natin yun hehe...kawawa naman yung mga fans na nanonood gumagastos ng pera para makanood ng live tapos matatalo lang ng ganun, kaya ako di na masyado nanonood ng live hehe...pero pag pumasok Ginebra sa Finals naku po pila na naman yan sa ticketing booth.anak ng @#!% anong mabilis at magandang laro ni jj ang sinasabi niya? kinain nga si jj ng buhay ni villanueva...si caguioa walang nagawa kay canaleta. totoo yan chief...pera na pinaghirapan para lang makapanood at ma-entertain. ang problema kabwisitan ang inaabot ng fans at hindi entertainment. a total turnaround during the days of jawo. Quote Link to comment
numina Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 i think kulang si ago sa scouting ng kalaban na team kaya di sya makapag adjust agad Quote Link to comment
junix Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 i think kulang si ago sa scouting ng kalaban na team kaya di sya makapag adjust agadthe inability to scout the other teams or the lack of it is simply unacceptable chief. the pba is a professional league and part of the responsibilities and/or duties of a coach and his staff is to scout and prepare for the opposing team. ang daming assistants ni ato - racela, abuda, galent, lim...isama na natin si long hair na nakikisawsaw. i'm sure one of them can be designated as the team's permanent scout. just my 2 cents worth. Quote Link to comment
azraelmd Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Lets wait and see for their next game vs RoS on sunday....especially with the elasto painters loss to the beerman...expect a fiery and difficult game for the ginkings...lalo nat nagpatawa si kalbot na thrown out sa game hehehe....ibang magmotivate ni kalbo eh lahat ng players involved...samantalang kay ato??! ...malamang sasabihin nya " anong magagawa natin? Bwenas si jeff chan tsaka si paul lee eh, wala na tayong magagawa.....grrrrr.... badtrip sa cuneta astrodome pala laro nila sa sunday.... Quote Link to comment
azraelmd Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 i think kulang si ago sa scouting ng kalaban na team kaya di sya makapag adjust agadScouting???? Lagi naman naghaharap mga teams sa PBA....dapat alam na nila mga galaw ng opposing players....ang dapat kay ato...in-game adjustments, rotation of players and a go to game play....nde yun puros hugot tsamba lang, pilit na run and gun and nakatunganga pag nahahabol na ng kalaban....in other words....itrade na si ATO!!!!! Quote Link to comment
Agent_mulder Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Late na comment ko na 'to pero here it goes, nakaka-asar ang substitution pattern/fielding of players ni ato, una binabad n'ya sina Helterbrand, Caguoia at Baracael sa loob, ok sana sa scoring si Mac kaso kinakain s'ya ng buhay ni Thornton, mas ok pa nung pinasok na pero late na late na si Ellis at s'ya ang dumepensa ke Thornton medyo nahirapan pa 'yung import, to make matters worse, nakikita na ni ato at ng coaching staff na kinakain ang depensa ni Mac pinilit pa din nila, oo mainit 'yung import pero kung matindi ang depensa tingin ko kahit pano 'di s'ya maka 50 pts., sina Jay-Jay at Mark kinakain din sa depensa ng mga tao nila pinipilit pa din ni ato, ATO BOBO KA, 'DI KA NA DAPAT NAGKO-COACH SA PBA, PANG INTER-COLOR KA LANG SA BARANGAY!! Quote Link to comment
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