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pwede i trade si Tenorio sa Hotshots, tapos si Sangalang sa Alaska, then si Abueva sa Ginebra... nice deal? :huh:

hindi pa naman pumipirma si sangalang sa hotshots so as of now free agent sya. ang tingin ko si jdv susundan si coach tim. nung lumipat si coach tim sa hotshots eh sumunod si jdv....mukang ganun uli. hinihingi ng alaska for abueva is japhet or greg. kung abueva and jazul for japhet fair ba yun? mas ok siguro yun kesa sa offer ni mvp na rob reyes plus future pick for abueva and jazul.
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i hope ginebra ang makipagdeal sa kia. mvp is relentless. ang gulang. nasa kanila na yung 1st pick,pati 2nd pick gusto kunin. tapos abueva gusto din. si asi kukunin din tsk tsk. ang ideal scenario nila is moala,troy,asi,abueva and castro syempre.....to do this mukang pakakawalan si rdo at mgr. sana wag mangyari...unfair masyado.

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i hope ginebra ang makipagdeal sa kia. mvp is relentless. ang gulang. nasa kanila na yung 1st pick,pati 2nd pick gusto kunin. tapos abueva gusto din. si asi kukunin din tsk tsk. ang ideal scenario nila is moala,troy,asi,abueva and castro syempre.....to do this mukang pakakawalan si rdo at mgr. sana wag mangyari...unfair masyado.

 

sinabi mo pa chief...masyadong swapang...halatang-halata...tapos si reyes lang ang ibibigay niya? lokohan na yan!!! paging commissioner :P :P

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I dont think papayagan naman ni kume yan...just like yun chris paul to lakers sana....nde yan maaprove....

 

Tska bakit gustong kunin si abueva...samantalang mas ok na itrade nalang yun mga assets para tumaas sa pick at makakuha ng bata at magaling na players pa...the draft has alot of potential good players...dont tell me mas ok pa makuha si abueva kesa makuha si rosario or kahit manlang si AVO? Si semerad bigyan lang ng playing time...parang abueva na din eh....overhyped lang si abueva...daming kalokohan sa court para magpapansin lang...pero in fairness to abueva...he is a good player with high motor and good basketball IQ...pero dun nako sa matangkad, with good motor plus high basketball IQ nlang

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Tim Cone anoints Slaughter-Aguilar frontline tandem as Ginebra's new go-to-guys
Read more at http://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/news/tim-cone-anoints-slaughter-aguilar-frontcourt-tandem-as-ginebras-new-go-to-guy-#B9EweW0Z4BivR2Ss.99

 

“Two bigs who are going to be the strength of your team because of their age, uncommon size, and athleticism, so you really have to take advantage of them,” Cone said of the 6-11 Slaughter and the 6-foot-9 Aguilar.

 

 

about time someone with the knowledge to really use and maximize their talents.

 

ano kaya masasabi ng diva boys???

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Tim Cone anoints Slaughter-Aguilar frontline tandem as Ginebra's new go-to-guys

Read more at http://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/news/tim-cone-anoints-slaughter-aguilar-frontcourt-tandem-as-ginebras-new-go-to-guy-#B9EweW0Z4BivR2Ss.99

 

“Two bigs who are going to be the strength of your team because of their age, uncommon size, and athleticism, so you really have to take advantage of them,” Cone said of the 6-11 Slaughter and the 6-foot-9 Aguilar.

 

 

about time someone with the knowledge to really use and maximize their talents.

 

ano kaya masasabi ng diva boys???

 

diva boys will have to accept the fact that tim cone will now be calling the shots and that there will be no place for their brand of play. gone will be the run and gun where greg and japeth's strengths were never maximized.

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Ginebra guard LA Tenorio begs off from Gilas pool citing fatigue, poor form
Read more at http://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/news/la-tenorio-begs-off-from-joining-gilas-team-t#sOKcosRdvt3twmmU.99

 

If this is for the good of the team and the country - i support you.

 

“One factor that came out is `yung dire-diretso `yung paglalaro ko. Yung fatigue factor, hindi na rin naman ako bumabata,” said the 31-year-old Tenorio during the same interview.

Tenorio has not had a major break during the off season since being named as part of Gilas in 2012 when it won the Jones Cup. A year later, he saw action for the team in the Fiba-Asia tilt held here in Manila, and then went on to suit up in the 2014 FIBA World Cup in Spain.

At the same time, Tenorio also stressed he won’t be fair to Ginebra if he plays for Gilas and then see action for the Kings not 100 percent prepare for the new season.

“Pag bumalik naman ako sa Ginebra, October na, start na ng season. Baka hindi na rin naman ako magin effective sa team, so in the end, sila (Kings) naman ang masa-sacrifice,” the veteran point guard out of Ateneo added.

 

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OT: An Article about MVP Team's kaswapangan (desperation)

 

THE PBA SHOULD PUT ITS FOOT DOWN ON THE REPORTED TNT-KIA DEAL

 

The Talk ‘N Text Tropang Texters, the flagship team of the MVP Group in the PBA, is on the prowl once again searching for its next victim. And it looks like it has found its target, and a willing one at that.

Still not satisfied after ‘raping’ expansion team Blackwater Elite, the Tropang Texters have now set its sights on the Elite’s batchmate, the KIA Carnival – set to be renamed as the Mahindra Enforcers effective PBA Season 41.

This time though, they’re not only targetting the expansions team’s 2015 first round pick, they’re going after KIA’s 2016 first round pick as well.

Terms of the deal (as reported by SPIN.ph‘s Snow Badua), are as follows: The first part would have TNT sending Kevin Alas to KIA for the latter’s 2015 1st round draft pick. KIA would then send Alas over to the NLEX Road Warriors for Aldrech Ramos and possibly Jonas Villanueva. The second part is just a straight swap between Ranidel de Ocampo and KIA’s 2016 first round pick.

Talk ‘N Text would end up with KIA’s 2015 & 2016 first round draft picks, while the expansion team would settle for Aldrech Ramos, Ranidel de Ocampo and possibly Jonas Villanueva.

If you’re thinking that this deal is just plain *bullshit*, don’t worry because you’re not alone.

Why would KIA throw away the chance to have Troy Rosario and Keifer Ravena on their team? Same reason as to why Blackwater threw away its opportunity to bag Moala Tautuaa. For the love of money, plain and simple.

The TNT-KIA deal doesn’t actually look as bad as it sounds, especially when you consider the Moala Tautuaa for Larry Rodriguez scam that the Tropang Texters just pulled off. But the point of the matter is, why would KIA do it in the first place? They don’t need it! The 2015 and 2016 PBA Rookie Draft classes are bound to be rich and oozing with talent, perfect building blocks for the expansion teams who were unable to get concessions upon their entry to the big league. This should have been the start of their uphill climb towards competitiveness.

Between the two expansion teams, it was KIA who had a promising rookie season. No thanks to the presence of Manny Pacquiao and their choice of imports. But they have to drastically improve their roster if they want to finish higher in the standings. And it should start now, with the 2015 PBA Rookie Draft. Forget about Alas, Troy Rosario is definitely more promising and could make an immediate impact on a team full of discards. Forget about Ranidel as well, Keifer is a rare breed of talent and signing him is comparable to winning the P150 million lottery.

Going back to Blackwater. If they were really serious (as claimed by the owner) in their intention of forming a fighting team for next season, then they shouldn’t have traded their first pick in the 2015 PBA Rookie Draft. Any person with common sense would know that. No amount of explaining from Dioceldo Sy will cut it, that deal with TNT is tainted with money and/or business no matter what angle you look at it. It wasn’t a trade between two basketball teams, it was a deal between two shady business groups.

And guess what, just recently the Blackwater team owner came up with a statement (published in InterAksyon.com) saying “The PBA should allow Blackwater and Kia to strengthen their team muna. Otherwise, too much lopsided games will k*ll the PBA.” Wow! Really? My initial reaction was, is this guy high on drugs? You just ‘gave’ away your very valuable first round pick and you have the nerve to come up with that a statement like that. Are you mentally sick or what?

Anyway, for reasons only the PBA know, that deal was approved no matter how stupid and lopsided it was, end of story. Not! The ‘desperate’ team is back and is now salivating over the other expansion team’s ‘assets’.

As fans we all know that there’s nothing we could do once these giant PBA corporations go inside their boardrooms and talk business. After all, gone are the days when PBA teams are average companies just wanting to promote the sport of basketball through the PBA. Now, its top companies wanting to promote their products and services through the PBA, with sports just as a mere backdrop.

The PBA should stop this reported TNT-KIA blockbuster deal from ever happening. If ever it pushes through and trade papers have been submitted, Commissioner Salud should veto it. KIA obviously doesn’t need it, so did Blackwater but we can’t do anything about it anymore. But we can still save KIA, and we can still protect the integrity and credibility of the PBA (well, if ever it has any left).

This is not good for the league, anyway you look at it. It will benefit one group alone, and leave the other in the dark. The PBA should save the expansion teams from themselves, and put the greedy ones in their proper place. – Alvin Fadul

http://hoops.ph/the-pba-should-put-its-foot-down-on-the-reported-tnt-kia-deal/

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TENORIO-CAGUIOA IS GINEBRA’S NEW FAST AND FURIOUS

 

IS Ginebra’s acknowledged leader Mark Caguioa about to have a new “Fast and Furious” partner under new coach Tim Cone? During a recent interview with Radyo Singko’s “Aksyon Sports” last Sunday, Cone named his potential starters of the team and chose Caguioa as part of his starting unit.

For the longest time, Caguioa and fellow guard Jayjay Helterbrand have manned the backcourt with aplomb and eventually earned the popular moniker.

Helterbrand, though, was slowed down by injuries the past few seasons and while he was able to fully recover from it of late, playing time later became an issue for him and Ginebra’s past coaches.

“It would be hard to say at this point, but off the top of my head, the obvious ones would be LA (Tenorio) and (Chris) Ellis as the guards. Mark and Japeth (Aguilar) at the wings and (Greg) Slaughter at center,” revealed Cone.

While Cone made hints about correcting the team’s imbalances specifically in their guard line-up, he might still consider the one-time Most Valuable Player awardee as one of his dependable off-the-bench players.

For one, former Ginebra coach and now Alaska Aces assistant Jeffrey Caraiso believes Helterbrand, despite not being as quick as before, can still be a factor in Cone’s complex system.

“For sure he can still shoot, without a doubt. So I think in regard to just offense, as long as he buys in, I think he’ll be okay,” said Cariaso. “If Jayjay can buy into what we’re doing to the triangle and really trust the offense, he will be able to impart his game to that offense.”

Cariaso, a former player and coaching protégé of Cone, called the shots for Ginebra for two conferences where he tried to instill the triangle system.

To be 100% honest with you, I had mixed signals whether they really bought into the triangle when I was there,” said Cariaso. “You have to give it a chance. You’re used to a certain way, but with the triangle you need patience, you need discipline. You need to be able to read and react.”

Cone, meanwhile, believes the current Ginebra roster will appreciate the triangle only if each one of them will buy into what he would impart, specifically on defense.

“We will be infusing things outside of the triangle to make the transition easy. It’s often times about the right players in the right positions. I think they’ll enjoy it,” said Cone “The biggest key for me though is, are they going to come in everyday and play defense? If they want to win championships they have to do that too.” – Dennis Principe, Manila Standard Today

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The birth of "Never-Say-Die"
On October 22, 1985, in a game against Northern Cement (NCC) , Jaworski was hit by an elbow from Jeff Moore late in the second quarter. Jaworski had to be brought to nearby Medical City’s emergency room to get stitches on his lips. During the third quarter, NCC was leading when Jaworski returned to the bench. The biggest manifestation was when, Jaworski came back from the nearby Medical City with seven stitches in his lip to lead the Gins to a come-from-behind victory against NCC. Jaworski incurred this from a wayward elbow inflicted by Jeff Moore in the second quarter. But with them behind by 15 points going into
the final seven minutes of the game, Jaworski re-entered the court and sparked a frenzy that to date, has yet been matched. The NCC team simply froze upon the sight of the Big J and didn't know what hit them, eventually losing to the Gins.

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Michael Hackett also saw his name in the PBA record books by scoring 103 points in Ginebra's 197–168 victory against Great Taste on November 21, 1985. This was later broken by Swift's Tony Harris in a 1992 game against Ginebra. Former Crispa import Billy Ray Bates was brought in for the 1986 Open Conference. Each PBA team was allowed to get two imports for the said conference. Bates' other partner was Michael Hackett, who was the 1985 Open Conference Best Import . It is believed that the pair was the greatest import tandem in PBA history. The two lead Ginebra in the Finals of the tournament against Manila Beer (formerly Beer Hausen), with Abet Guidaben and imports Michael Young and Harold Keeling.
Bates and Hackett powered Ginebra to a 4–1 win in the series to win the 1986 PBA Open Conference and give the team its first-ever championship. Unfortunately, Francis Arnaiz suddenly left for the United States before Ginebra won its first championship, ending his 11-year career and tandem with Jaworski.

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