danielwtf Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 yes! di na 0 yung win column ng barangay! haha Quote Link to comment
numina Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Si greg did good vs barako import... sana maulit nya ke ramos Quote Link to comment
RED2018 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Â Â Last year pa yang hinanakit na yan eversince pumasok si Jeffrey (sumuko nga at lumipat sa Alaska). Its Mark and JayJay ang problema with the coach.Dapat they should sink or swim with the chosen system by the management...apparently, nakinig ang management sa 'power' playing players. Tama yung observation ng isang Ginebra fan ditto, nananahimik si Coach Jeff tapos niyayang gamitin ang system niya, then dropped like a hot potato dahil sa sulsol ng players na ayaw ng 'change'...You can never teach old dogs with new tricks... 1 Quote Link to comment
vkalbos Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Dapat they should sink or swim with the chosen system by the management...apparently, nakinig ang management sa 'power' playing players. Tama yung observation ng isang Ginebra fan ditto, nananahimik si Coach Jeff tapos niyayang gamitin ang system niya, then dropped like a hot potato dahil sa sulsol ng players na ayaw ng 'change'...You can never teach old dogs with new tricks... Hindi naman ganun siguro bro. Remember Jeff was a part of SMB Group, Since they are longing for such new ideas and systems they tried jeff to have its own army but unfortunately failed. For me it was too early for jeff to pove his worth. When greogorio replaced by cone purefoods struggled a lot in the past before they reaches and gel on the system. I guess the only difference between Cone and Cariaso - Cone has a larger voice and has a bigger authority. Quote Link to comment
photographer Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 FRIDAY THE 13th !!! Sana hindi na makialam si Alfrancis sa coaching. Quote Link to comment
airspan_mimic Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 hope the Gin Kings keep on winning! Quote Link to comment
numina Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 on jeff, i think he knows what he was entering into when he accepted the coaching job in BGK. I have my theories on why he was replaced: theory 1- dating gawi management, pag hindi pumasok sa finals, palit agad.... shades ng nangyari sa smb and gins for the past 2-3 years... impatient silatheory 2- jeff is not the greatest of coaches... he is a greenhorn.. pwedeng na petition sya ng mga players because hindi nya nakasundo... a. imbes na mag elect ng team captain, nag appoint sya... i think hindi yun ang practice b. sinisisi nya ang mga beterano pero pag laro, ang bola (dahil nga traingle) nasa fulcrum or (bigs) na medyo bago .... kung sisishin nya ang mga veterans, might as well nasa kanila ang bola pag laro... i am giving ato 2-3 conferences, otherwise, baka si Frankie Lim and uupo. Quote Link to comment
Robo Cop Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 magaling yung import ng san miguel....buti maagang na foul trouble... i agree, very athletic, malakas, masipag at magaling si Roberts, shooter sa FT at may tira sa labas, mas okay sana kung sa Ginebra siya napunta... si Dunigan naman, parang si Vmack lang, malakas sa loob pero mahina sa FT at walang tira sa labas. if ever na mapanalo nila halos lahat ng laban, eh malamang baka hanggang semis or finals lang ulit ang abutin nila... dahil i'm sure yung pinaka dominant at complete import ngayon ang magdadala ng team nya sa championship. Quote Link to comment
Hari ng Spakol Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 FRIDAY THE 13th !!! asdfasdf.jpgSana hindi na makialam si Alfrancis sa coaching.  sana naman! dalawang sunod na dikit ang laban ng Ginebra, Kia sa Friday at TnT naman sa sunday. Quote Link to comment
photographer Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 http://share.gifyoutube.com/v1QO3A.gif  I think PBA referees should really be consistent with calls. This one's definitely a foul. Mahirap kung parating let go....could maim players mas lalo sa let go sa mga tulak ni Belga, et al. A foul should really be a foul. Problem is the referees' consultant si Perry Martinez is also very inconsistent with his opinions. Commissioner should be aware of this. Quote Link to comment
daphne loves derby Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015   Last year pa yang hinanakit na yan eversince pumasok si Jeffrey (sumuko nga at lumipat sa Alaska). Its Mark and JayJay ang problema with the coach. I think because LA already saw what the triangle can do, he does not approved of the forced exit of coach Jeff and he wished for more patience kasi he knows it will reap good rewards. Kaso most of the fans eh sobang harsh critic din so hindi naaalis ang pressure sa management.. Tama nga kayo, PF also struggled nung naguumpisa sila sa Triangle ni cone. Si Jeff na lang din ang umalis, siguro ayaw na niyang makasama pa yung mga players na ayaw sa kanya, kaya tuluyang nag paalam sa entire SMC group.   sana naman! dalawang sunod na dikit ang laban ng Ginebra, Kia sa Friday at TnT naman sa sunday.  Malabo yan, kaya nga si ato ang pinaupo niya kasi kaya niyang manduhan.. Dapat kasi siya na lang nag coach talaga para walang problema, wala naman sigurong issue dun. nadala naman niya sa finals dati ng walang caguioa. Quote Link to comment
azraelmd Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Kala ko ba nagpapalakas ang SMB kaya kinuha si JR reyes...buti nga 0-3 na sila losing to both kia and blackwater....and ironically to the ginkings too... Quote Link to comment
airspan_mimic Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 (edited) just wait SMB will bounce back from 0-3 start BGK needs this momentum Edited February 12, 2015 by airspan_mimic Quote Link to comment
junix Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 brondial who was a part of the rotation under coach jeff has now become a permanent fixture on the bench. is this a similar case to that of james forrester when he was not given playing time under ato? there should be something wrong somewhere when two top pick rookies are not being utilized by ATO AGUSTIN. in fact, aguilar is slowly losing his playing time. ababou has not been given playing time. will there be a time in the future na di na din gagamitin si japeth? Quote Link to comment
darksoulriver Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 si japeth mas madami pang reklamo kpag nababangga... gamit din ng height to take a 12-15 footer shots or better magconcentrate sya sa depensa at mga opensib rebound. bahala na si ato.. Quote Link to comment
game_boy Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 si japeth mas madami pang reklamo kpag nababangga... gamit din ng height to take a 12-15 footer shots or better magconcentrate sya sa depensa at mga opensib rebound. bahala na si ato..  yan ang nakakatakot - "bahala na si ato" Quote Link to comment
Lyoto Machida Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 (edited) http://hoops.ph/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/ginebra-1-640x427.jpg Barangay Ginebra San Miguel, the most popular ball club in the PBA. They started out as an expansion team in 1979 and after 36 years in the league, managed to win eight (8) PBA titles. The franchise is currently on a 7-year title drought and fans are wondering, how long before they can taste that sweet championship wine once again.We now look back at the glory days of the Gin Kings whom, despite their current state, is still the undisputed crowd darlings of the PBA. 1982 PBA Season (Open Conference Finalist)Playing as Gilbey’s Gin under new coach Arturo Valenzona, they made its first Finals appearance during the Open Conference. They were swept by Toyota of coach Ed Ocampo, Robert Jaworski, and Ramon Fernandez. It’s their first taste of a successful PBA campaign after joining the league in 1979. 1983 PBA Season (All-Filipino Finalist)Gilbey’s made two successive All-Filipino Finals appearance in 1983 and 1984, losing both times against the powerful Crispa Redmanizers squad. They were swept in 1983 in the first of three titles won by eventual Grand Slam champions Redmanizers. 1984 PBA Season (The Big J’s arrival)After Toyota disbanded, the Gins acquired its most popular players in Robert Jaworski and Francis Arnaiz. Together they led the team to the All-Filipino Finals that year, losing again to the Crispa Redmanizers, 4- 1, of that Finals series. 1985 (The Birth of Never Say Die)Gilbey’s was renamed as Ginebra San Miguel before the 1985 PBA season. However, the team failed to enter the finals in each of the three conferences, showing only a strong finish (3rd place) in the Reinforced Conference.But that season was remembered as the year the Never Say Die was born. In that game on October 22, 1985 against Northern Cement (NCC), Jaworski was hit by an wayward elbow from Jeff Moore late in the second quarter. He had to be brought to the nearby hospital to get stitches on his lips. During the third quarter, NCC was leading when Jaworski returned to the bench.The team was behind by 15 points going into the final seven minutes of the game when The Big J re-entered the court and sparked a rally. The NCC team was in shock in the sight of the Living Legend and they didn’t know what hit them after losing to the Gins. 1986 PBA Season (Champions at last)Their first taste of Championship wine. Former Crispa Import Billy Ray Bates and 1985 Open Conference Best Import Michael Hackett powered Ginebra to a 4–1 series win to capture the 1986 PBA Open Conference and give the team its first-ever championship. Francis Arnaiz, Jaworski’s running mate, suddenly left for the United States before Ginebra won its first championship. 1988 PBA Season (First-ever All-Filipino Title)The Gin King’s changed their name to Añejo Rum 65ers and immediately made an impact when they won their first All-Filipino championship and second overall title that year. They are known as the best All-Filipino underdog team ever to grabbed the All-Filipino TitleThey entered the finals via a classic playoff game vs. San Miguel on Joey Loyzaga’s pass to Romulo Mamaril for the game winning basket. Añejo then took on new team Purefoods in the Finals and won the series, 3–1, over a team led by Jerry Codiñera, Alvin Patrimonio, and Jojo Lastimosa. Ramon Fernandez was benched throughout the series due to alleged game fixing.Anejo Rum also clinched the 1988 PBA/IBA World Challenge Cup with Bobby Parks as their import by beating international teams and beating Alaska Air Force in the lone final game.This is one of the best season’s the Gin Kings had experienced in their colorful PBA history. 1989 PBA Season (2nd place in Third Conference)San Miguel Beer defeated Añejo in five games to complete a rare Grand Slam by winning the Third Conference. Añejo paraded another super import in Carlos Briggs, who easily bagged the Best Import Award. 1990 PBA Season (2nd place in First Conference)Añejo entered the finals of the First Conference against Benjie Paras and the Shell Rimula X team. But the season also marks the infamous walk-out of Añejo in Game Six when they protested a foul on Rey Cuenco with a few minutes left in the second quarter.The game was forfeited, with Shell leading the series 3-2. The title was ultimately handed over to Shell. The Gin Kings were fined 500,000 PHP, which was then the highest fine in league history. 1991 PBA Season (Winning the First Conference; 3rd Overall PBA Title)The team reverted back to Ginebra San Miguel and they met Shell once again in the Finals of the First Conference. The outcome is different as they comeback from a 3-1 series deficit to win the title. Rudy Distrito hit an off-balanced shot in the final seconds of Game 7, which is now remembered the most dramatic shot in their storied history and completed the greatest comeback in PBA history.The Gin Kings placed second in the Third Conference, losing to Alaska 3-1 in the Finals. 1996 PBA Season (2nd Place in the Third Conference)After 3 years as a doormat team, the team picked amateur standout Marlou Aquino in the 1996 PBA Draft as the 1st overall pick. Suddenly, the future looked bright for the team. The Gin Kings entered the Finals of the Third Conference losing to eventual Grand Slam team Alaska Aces.Aquino was voted as the Rookie of the Year at the end of the season and was also selected to the Mythical Five for his great performance. 1997 PBA Season (2nd Place in the First Conference then 4th Overall PBA Title)Ginebra was renamed the Gordon Gins Boars and placed second in the All-Filipino Conference losing to Purefoods, 4-2, in the best of seven Finals series.They won the Commissioners Cup for their 4th Overall PBA Title. They exacted revenge over the Alaska Aces as they won the series, 4-2, behind import Chris King and Finals MVP Marlou Aquino. This was also the team’s first title in six years and the last PBA title under Robert Jaworski.The Big J resigned the following year to run for the Senate. He also had a run-in with team management which led to his decision. 2001 PBA Season (2nd Place in the All Filipino Conference)Ginebra was re-christened the Barangay Ginebra Kings in 1999, but weren’t able to find success until 2001 when the team drafted an unknown player in Mark Caguiao. He surprised many pundits and led the Gin Kings to a runner-up finish in the All-Filipino losing to sister team San Miguel Beer.Caguiao was named the Rookie of the Year at the end of the PBA season. 2004 -05 PBA Season (Back to back Championships during the transition period)In 2004, the league shifted to a 2-conference set-up with a special transitional tournament known as 2004 PBA Fiesta Conference was held to bridge the transition between the 2003 and 2004–05 PBA seasons.The Gin Kings won that tournament by defeating Red Bull in the best of 5 Finals, 3-1, and at the same time ended their 7-year title drought. Eric Menk, who was traded to the Gins in 2001, was named the Finals MVP after a strong performance.Barangay Ginebra made it back to back as they also won the 2004-05 Philippine Cup over Talk N’ Text, 4-2, of the best of 7 Finals series. Menk was again adjudged the Finals MVP and was also the Most Valuable Player at the end of the season, becoming the first player in franchise history to win the award. 2006 -07 PBA Season (7th overall PBA Title)The Gin Kings won the Philippine Cup, their seventh overall PBA title. They faced the Beermen and fell behind 0–2 in the series similar to their 2001 showdown. But this time the outcome was different. They managed to win the next four games to win the tournament, becoming only the fifth PBA team to win the title after losing the first two games.Jayjay Helterbrand, who sank two crucial free throws in Game 6, was named Finals MVP. Before that, Mark Caguioa won the Best Player of the Conference award. 2007 -08 PBA Season (8th overall PBA Title, Fiesta Conference)The Gin Kings last PBA title, to this date. They defeated the Air21 Express, 4-3, to grab their 8th overall title. Ronald Tubid and Eric Menk had spectacular performances and were named as Finals co-MVP. Jong Uichico won his 8th PBA title as a coach and his 2nd with the Kings. 2008 -09 PBA SeasonDefeated by San Miguel in the Fiesta Conference, 4-3, in the best of seven Finals series. Jayjay Helterbrand was named MVP at the end of the PBA season, becoming the first guard and second player to win the award in franchise history. 2010-11 PBA SeasonDefeated by Talk N’ Text in the Commissioner’s Cup, 4-2, in the best of seven Finals series. Mark Caguiao was named MVP at the end of the PBA season, becoming the third player to win the award in franchise history. 2012-13 PBA SeasonDefeated by Alaska Aces in the Commissioner’s Cup, 3-0, in the best of five Finals series. LA Tenorio won the Best Player of the Conference award.It’s been the same situation all over again for the Gin Kings. There are two instances wherein they experienced at least a 6-year drought before winning it all, and they are now in their 7th year without a PBA title. Can they do it again based on experience in previous title droughts?Die-hard fans are hoping and praying it would end this year. Edited February 12, 2015 by Lyoto Machida Quote Link to comment
numina Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 I think jeff got booted out... his contra t buy-out was a solution sa sobrang coaches ng smc....  Brondial is playing 4.... w the import and japeth, talagang liliit playing time nya.... Bgk, in my opinion, should just trade abbabou and the minion... Forrester should be traded too but i tgink he can transition to a good defensive stopper w offense... Quote Link to comment
chuachase Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 I think mashadong malaki na ulo ng players dahil lang pinakasikat na team ang ginebra? Just my two cents Quote Link to comment
numina Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 100-92.... eto tama na hehehe Quote Link to comment
vkalbos Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Pero kung ako ang papipiliin mas gusto ko ng wala dyan sina Mark,Jayjay, Mac and Aguilar. Quote Link to comment
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