junix Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Napanood ko sa Extreme Sports Cable TV yung replay ng Northern Cement and Ginebra wherein yung pumutok yung nguso ni Big J. Pansin ko lang iba ang passion ng fans nuon. Terible sa kabilang team kasi buong laro inaasar yung kalaban, sinusurot hahaha, nagtatayuan mas lalo naghahabol or dikit laban. Puro ulo ng fans nakikita sa TV kapag nakaka shoot Ginebra. At yung sigawan. Hindi lang sigaw. Sigaw ng pang aasar. Sigaw ng nakakasira ng loob sa kalabang team. In that game, the camera focused on a timeout by Ginebra. Nag co coach si Big J katabi niya players and may "personal touch", yung may pahawak hawak sa binti o braso ng player habang kinakausap niya. And yung style, with intesity, nanlalaki mata, may body language, at malinaw ang instructions. Ang layo na ng mga players sinisigawan pa ng instructions. yeah i saw this, too. wala akong masabi kay big j. the epitome of a true warrior. yun ang never-say-die spirit. di niya pinahiya yung mga ginebra fans. sad to say yan ang kulang ngayon sa ginebra...papanoorin ang kalaban...lulusutan...lay-up harap-harapan. i still hope that someday in the near future jawo will be able to call the shots for ginebra. nabigyan na sila ng pep talk ulit...sana naman may nakinig 😊😆 Quote Link to comment
ray004 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 LA pag ganon ang sugod mo bumitaw ka ng suntok. Hindi yung naghihintay ka ng aawat! Quote Link to comment
*kalel* Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 injured ang import... parang nasira laro.... sana manalopa rin... 1 Quote Link to comment
photographer Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 LA pag ganon ang sugod mo bumitaw ka ng suntok. Hindi yung naghihintay ka ng aawat! Ginamit lang ni LA utak niya. Kung sumuntok siya, anong mangyayari. Wala na.Buong team ang maapektuhan sa amateurish na galaw. Tapos suspended pa.. Tama rin naman yung ginawa niya. Its just a spur of the moment. The intensity. 2 Quote Link to comment
photographer Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 injured ang import... parang nasira laro.... sana manalopa rin... Gulong gulo ang set plays or no semblance of play. Defense? With JV Casio shooting infront of Greg Slaughter and making the shot, mura ni Jawo ang maririnig ni Greg like what Sonny said kay E.J. Feihl nuon. Quote Link to comment
photographer Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 THE END. Time to trade Ellis Quote Link to comment
junix Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 end of the road for bgk. sloppy basketball...soft defense...lack of energy...open layups and uncontested slams against bgk's big men. ang samang panuorin. kung si jawo ang nasa bench baka puro mura na ang inabot ng mga players. while ginebra made a run, one can simply see the lack of effort in getting those rebounds and diving for the loose ball. it's more of attitude and character rather than Xs and Os. a lot of decisions to be made during the break. Quote Link to comment
junix Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 THE END. Time to trade Ellis magaling si ellis...young and athletic but sad to say he lacks basketball IQ. how i wish bgk can get rayray parks in the draft then give forrester the much needed playing time next season. Quote Link to comment
RED2018 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) Sabay na nga sa loob sina Japeth and Greg but the gritty Gabby Espinas can still impose his will in the shaded area...Tsk Tsk Tsk!!! Edited June 18, 2014 by artedpro Quote Link to comment
azraelmd Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 1403105302[/url]' post='9297820']Sabay na nga sa loob sina Japeth and Greg but the gritty Gabby Espinas can still impose his will in the shaded area...Tsk Tsk Tsk!!! Those two big men...ayaw kasi makipagbanggaan...sa defense si slaughter ayaw magcontest ng shots pag malayo sa kanya ...just look at what casio did..tapos ilang beses din nagdrive sa harap nya si vic manuel....si japhet hilig tumalon ng tumalon kaya laging nafafake...pwede naman taas kamay lang muna....japhet nagmamadali din itira ang shots nya...kahit alahoy...pwede naman fake din muna...Anyway...laglag na nman yun dalawa SMB tsaka GINS.... Quote Link to comment
photographer Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 magaling si ellis...young and athletic but sad to say he lacks basketball IQ. how i wish bgk can get rayray parks in the draft then give forrester the much needed playing time next season. Tama. Quote Link to comment
game_boy Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Those two big men...ayaw kasi makipagbanggaan...sa defense si slaughter ayaw magcontest ng shots pag malayo sa kanya ...just look at what casio did..tapos ilang beses din nagdrive sa harap nya si vic manuel....si japhet hilig tumalon ng tumalon kaya laging nafafake...pwede naman taas kamay lang muna....japhet nagmamadali din itira ang shots nya...kahit alahoy...pwede naman fake din muna...Anyway...laglag na nman yun dalawa SMB tsaka GINS.... the common denominator is robert non, need we say more? Quote Link to comment
avi_sala Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 (edited) THE END. Time to trade EllisYes trade ellis and japeth...they don't epitomize the future of BGK. Edited June 19, 2014 by avi_sala Quote Link to comment
darksoulriver Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 trade na ang dapat itrade... irelease na dpat irelease na player... Quote Link to comment
Richmond Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Mark Caguioa should retire already he doesn't have the legs and the speed anymore to compete at the level the PBA is in right now it is better to leave with his legacy intact than to leave with a whimper. Quote Link to comment
vkalbos Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 I would rather see Hodge and Jervy Cruz playing inside the paint. tignan ko lang kung hindi katakutan yan... Quote Link to comment
darksoulriver Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 why not change the team name para kungbaga ipagpag muna ang kamalasan nkakapit sa BGK hehehe GSM Blue Knights / KingsGSM Matadoror better Anejo Rum at Gilbey's Gin na lng ulet nayayamot n kc ang Baranggay! 1 Quote Link to comment
azraelmd Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 1403138261[/url]' post='9298070']Yes trade ellis and japeth...they don't epitomize the future of BGK. And what would epitomize the future of GBK? Greg? Baracael ? and tenorio? Oo nga pala... Si hodge and jervy cruz? Can anyone enlighten me why a greg baracael tenorio hodge and jervy is better than a greg baracael tenorio japhet ellis? You already saw greg is slow..basically an upgrade of marlou...jervy is being moved out of rotation in favor of almazan...majority of the teams are getting bigger and you want to downgrade BGKs size? Besides you want to see ellis and japhet improve just like canaleta, taha, cortez and the rest that ginebra traded away...Slaughter and japhet needs to be taught more moves in the paint especially japhet...i agree that some players need to be traded...instead of trading away our big men..why not focus on our backcourt...monfort and jayjay doesnt cut it anymore..get a good point guard to serve as primary backup to LA ...and of course...caguioa...mahina na PG and SG rotation ng gins... Quote Link to comment
photographer Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 SPIN.ph9 hrs · We now give way to a Ginebra fan based in Kuwait who requested us to post this message, in the hope that it reaches the team's management and its players: To be honest we are really disappointed sa pinakita ninyo and we don't think you gave your all best masakit tanggapin na die hard fans ninyo kami but di naman pweding puro magic words natin "BAWI" till when hanggang pag puti Ng uwak or till magunaw ang mundo. Kayo na lng ang Ng papasaya sa amin dito sa abroad everytime na May laro kayo but sad to say na puro PORMA lng tayo at kulang sa action. Nakiki pag away kami dahil sa inyo di kami makakain at makatulog Ng maayos everytime na talo tayo pero di naman excuse na laging word natin is "BAWI" next conference till when 3010. Isipin naman ninyo feeling Ng mga fans ninyo kung ano mararamdaman namin tuwing natatalo tayo. Baka nga totoo si RUDY DISTRITO na sahod lang every month ang inaantay ninyo wala na kau paki alam sa mga fans ninyo. Suklian naman ninyo yun sigawan namin yun pakiki pag away namin dahil sa inyo yun tipong ilaban namin kau Ng patayan isang bagay lang naman ang mag papasaya sa amin bigyan ninyo kami Ng Magandang games hindi puro kangkong noon di kami naniniwala sa mga haters na kangkong daw tau or nag aantay ang boracay, but this time totoo cla KANGKONG NATION tayo at hanggang porma lang at publicity tau. Nakaka lungkot isipin na totoo lahat Ng mga haters. Ayoko na maging die hard fans ninyo along with my family kasi sumisikip at sumasama lang loob namin sa inyo at napala away lng kmi gawa ninyo kasi di ninyo kayang bigyan Ng ligaya mga fans ninyo. Sana di pa maging huli ang lahat at maging 10% na LNG fans ninyo mawala na ang crowd FAVOURITE . I didn't feel the spirit of "NEVER SAY DIE TEAM". Maawa kau sa mga fans ninyo na patuloy sumosuporta at naniniwala sa inyo but in the end we're loser! Quote Link to comment
ak47 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 they need a player like Hodge,Sean Anthony or Abueba type. Hindi sila sineryoso ng kalaban eh. tinatawana lang sila ng mga players ng Alaska because anytime gusto umiskor ng aces nakakakuha sila ng puntos. No one in Ginebra side na gusto dumepensa lahat gusto pumuntos. For me ang pinakamagandang itrade si LA then isama si Ellis para makakkuha ng maganda gandang kapalit. Sayang kung ittrade si Aguilar mukhang malaki pa potential ma train lang maige. Si Jay Jay hindi na mapapakinabangan yan halos wala ng value yan after Ginebra mag rretire na yan and wala na ding team ang kukuha dyan for trade. Quote Link to comment
photographer Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 they need a player like Hodge,Sean Anthony or Abueba type. Hindi sila sineryoso ng kalaban eh. tinatawana lang sila ng mga players ng Alaska because anytime gusto umiskor ng aces nakakakuha sila ng puntos. No one in Ginebra side na gusto dumepensa lahat gusto pumuntos. For me ang pinakamagandang itrade si LA then isama si Ellis para makakkuha ng maganda gandang kapalit. Sayang kung ittrade si Aguilar mukhang malaki pa potential ma train lang maige. Si Jay Jay hindi na mapapakinabangan yan halos wala ng value yan after Ginebra mag rretire na yan and wala na ding team ang kukuha dyan for trade. These three got the trademark of Ginebra na Never Say Die. As much as I really hate Abueva, kapag nasa Ginebra na yan mabubuhayan ulit ng dugo mga fans. Actually gusto ni Abueva sa Ginebra, mahal lang siya ng Alaska. Matanda na nga lang si Asi pero he has the heart. Dapat talaga mag retire na si JayJay. Si Japeth, parang litong lito sa pinaggagawa ng mga teammates niya or siya ang litong lito. Quote Link to comment
photographer Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 https://ph.sports.yahoo.com/news/head-coach-cariaso-not-expecting-drastic-off-season-changes-for-ginebra-082755426-nba.html The Ginebra coach was referring to the contracts of Jens Knuttel, Emman Monfort, Bryan Faundo, Mac Baracael, and Jayjay Helterbrand. Even if they are all renewed, there’s a big possibility that the Kings will not sport the same lineup next season because two of their players will be up for the dispersal draft. Quote Link to comment
*kalel* Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Ako ang tingin ko lang dapat i enhance ang depensa... Sana makakuha sila ng magaling dumipensa ng 2 at 3.... Generally wag na munang mag trade... Hayaang maka develop ng chemistry 1 Quote Link to comment
RED2018 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 (edited) Since Coach Cariaso became the Ginebra Kings head coach, he partially changed the playing strategy of the team. But the real problem with the team was the players. Most of them wants to have their own "shining moment" and "papogi" points. Those attitudes should be eliminated and to be more focused on the game. Their performance on their last few games was disappointing coz i'ts pretty obvious they did not exert all the efforts to win- walang 'never-say-die' spirit the old Ginebra team was known for. Coach Cariaso should review and assess the player's performance and build a more concise strong team and develop cohesion (I agree with him na wag masyadong i-tinker ang line up) in preparation for the next season. Maybe we can see somehow quite similar to old Ginebra Kings players. Goodluck Coach Cariaso for the new Ginebra Kings- its really a work in progress. Slaughter must learn how to jump when defending, di Lang nakataas ang kamay; japeth must turn back the hands of time to regain his usual play, me thinks he has some unresolved personal problems; Ellis should develop his outside shot and not rely on his flights; Forrester should be allowed to play, sayang s'ya.. Caguiao, must lead his teammates the way he used to.... Edited June 20, 2014 by artedpro Quote Link to comment
junix Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 (edited) the posts above are exactly what i have pointed out before. bgk players are just content in going through the motions. walang energy...walang kabuhay-buhay. manonood lang kung ano ang gagawin ng kalaban...uncontested layups...in your face slams...tatakbo na nakababa ang ulo. nakakadismaya. nothing against cariaso...magaling siya...scientific and advanced approach. but there is more than drawing up plays...pointing the Xs and Os. sometimes the coach needs to be the motivator...yung magtutulak sa mga bata niya na maglaro para sa mga fans na humihiyaw at nakikipag-away...nagbabayad para manood ng live...play like there's no tomorrow...di yung naghihintay lang ng sweldo sabi nga ni destroyer. nung panahon ni jawo, no easy baskets. ngayon naman all easy baskets tsk tsk tsk hope all of these will be rectified come next season. in the meantime let's enjoy the remaining games. Edited June 20, 2014 by junix Quote Link to comment
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