jepoyskieLOVEbianca Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 coach ato just trusted his players.. for me it was a good decision to go for the win at the very last moment para hindi na makabawi TnT.. Ato even knew that L.A wasn't playing that well but still he designed a play and let L.A drive to the basket and take the winning shot.. Tnt knew that so L.A trusted Japeth and gave him the ball to nail that dagger.. For me even if they lost that game, it will be good for the team, coz they are starting to trust each other and play like how a team should.. it was a bonus that they won.. so im really hoping that this win will boost the chemistry of BGSM mga sir, hindi po ako nakikipagtalo sa inyo ha, BGSM fan din ako... just sharing my thoughts on what happened... sir, trust on your teammates doesn't focus on offense alone... if you completely trust your teammates, pati sa depensa dapat naniniwala ka na mapipigilan nyo ang kalaban... ang sakin is the back-up plan sir... what if it missed, wala na chance kasi kayo na mismo umubos sa oras... no matter how we trust each other, dapat may back-up plan pa din tayo... Quote Link to comment
jepoyskieLOVEbianca Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 that's why I said kanya- kanya diskarte yan, that is the situation he choosed ang mag- ubos ng oras luckily it works for him .Your point if shot missed hindi pa rin naman sigurado na sa kanila uli ang bola tama ka sir, hindi pa din sigurado na kanila pa din ang bola, kaya nga i'm saying thatthey're just giving themselves a SECOND CHANCE... walang assurance pero at leastmay chance pa... kasi may oras pa... Quote Link to comment
jepoyskieLOVEbianca Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Good Job GSM! despite some lapses and errors, and ailing players (due to flu) from Greg, Jayjay, to Mark and now LA. excellent game for Aguilar, Baracael and Monfort! These guys are the future of GSM! first honorable mention na din kay Chris Ellis and Greg Slaughter for their effort from 1st Quarter up to the last Quarter. suwerte ka pa din Ato Agustin at magagaling ang players mo kahit na lousy ka mag coach! you want to take a last shot eh lamang ang kalaban nyo at kayo ang naghahabol??? hindi bale sana kung tabla ang score! agree sir, same point as mine... if you're in the lead or tabla ang score ok lang mag-ubos ng oras... pero pag lamang ang kalaban, syempre you need to have back-up plans, magmintis man, may chance pa ulit... kesa naman pag nagmintis talo na agad... if Ato really trusted his players, maniniwala din dapat sya na kaya nilang gumawa ng magandang stop kung sakaling maka-shoot sila at may oras pa ang TNT na gumawa ng play... Quote Link to comment
direstraits94 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 tama ka sir, hindi pa din sigurado na kanila pa din ang bola, kaya nga i'm saying thatthey're just giving themselves a SECOND CHANCE... walang assurance pero at leastmay chance pa... kasi may oras pa... let's just agree to disagree,there are several possible scenario in that last game,luckily its a win.... this is just a friendly pleasantry..... Quote Link to comment
darksoulriver Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 agree sir, same point as mine... if you're in the lead or tabla ang score ok lang mag-ubos ng oras... pero pag lamang ang kalaban, syempre you need to have back-up plans, magmintis man, may chance pa ulit... kesa naman pag nagmintis talo na agad... if Ato really trusted his players, maniniwala din dapat sya na kaya nilang gumawa ng magandang stop kung sakaling maka-shoot sila at may oras pa ang TNT na gumawa ng play... i think wla ng timeout ang Ginebra kaya inubos nila yung oras and take the last shot. if ever lng nman they shot early and made the shot... may time out pa ang TNT to set a play... then pano kung nk shoot din ang TNT lamang sila... Ginebra will inbound the ball from the back court kc wla ng timeout... mas mababa ang chances mo to win the game mas mahirap ang ang dumepensa when your just leading with a 1pt or 2pt.. so yung mga coach mas gusto nila take the last shot and win the game... its a 50:50 Win and loss situation Quote Link to comment
jepoyskieLOVEbianca Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 let's just agree to disagree,there are several possible scenario in that last game,luckily its a win.... this is just a friendly pleasantry..... hehehe, tama! let's just agree to disagree, ang mahalaga, panalo ang BGSM!! yeah!!! friendly discussion lang din naman, para pampasigla ng thread ng BGSM... hehehe Quote Link to comment
junix Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 so who's next for ginebra and when? Quote Link to comment
Kazekage.Gaara Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) yun na nga ang hindi ko maintindihan kay ato. bakit hugot-hugot lang ang katulad nina baracael, monfort at ababou? samantalang pwede naman sigurong isama sa rotation. sayang kasi ang galing ng mga ito kung di nabibigyan ng playing time. may mga laro nga na sa dulo lang ng bench mo nakikita ang mga yan. nonetheless, it still was a great win...typical ginebra win ika nga...come from behind Masyadong prioritized sila MC47, I guess. Kunsabagay, bakit mo nga naman babalewalain kung ano yung nagbigay ng panalo? I think that JR Reyes should also be credited mga sir, noong nasa labas si Japeth si JR ang nakikipagpalitan ng mukha sa loob eh hehe. As for post moves, alam naman nating mas comfortable si Japeth facing the basket kesa sa post moves, kagabi nga gigil na gigil maka slam dunk kaso matindi din ang interior defense ng tnt at talagang hard pero duty fouls ang aabutin nila kina RDO, Anthony at K-Will Ginebra's big men esp. when Greg, Japeth or JR Reyes makes a lot of players think twice or change their shot Sir kaso si MC47 ang inabot n'ya sa picture na ginamit mo eh hehe Walang ka-kwenta kwenta si Ato, maski pa nanalo sila, ang sagwa ng spacing nila sa loob, napuna n'yo din siguro 'yun, sina Greg at Japeth or JR would give picks pero nakadikit pa din sila sa teammate nila na binibigyan nila ng picks, buti na lang Japeth save the day/game for them with that 3-point dagger at block Kung titingnan mo yung feature nila sa coaching staff nung pumasok yung tres and nablock si RDO, si Coach Al, tuwang tuwa. Si Ato, wala lang. NR. that's true because if not for the heroics of baracael, japeth, monfort and greg, it could've been another loss for the gin kings. ang sama ng laro...maswerte na lang at pumutok yung mga hinugot. it's still my opinion that for ginebra to really make it all the way...PALITAN NA SI ATO!!! I agree. Kunin si Rajko, Pido, or as everyone else clamors for: JAWO! sir, with all due respect, i think you didn't get my point... sir, no matter what situation you are in, in a basketball game... whether youare on the offensive side or on the defensive side, when the clock is running down,specially during the clutch seconds, it would always be better to be on the lead... take a a little time to read my example...if you are to choose, what situation would you want to be in... A.Time is running out, the opponent is leading by one... then you'll be hopingthat the next play would favor you??? (no benefit of hindsight please) B.Time is running out, you are leading by one... then you'll be hoping that the next play wouldfavor you??? (no benefit of hindsight please) it will always be better to be on the lead and then trust your defense,than take a last second shot and just hope you'd make it... in my point, if ever the shot missed, BGSM still would have a second chance since there still would be a time remaining to do so... Take the best possible shot. Sabi nga sa larong kanto: kung last warning na, tira ng isang malinis para walang reklamo yung kabila. i think wla ng timeout ang Ginebra kaya inubos nila yung oras and take the last shot. if ever lng nman they shot early and made the shot... may time out pa ang TNT to set a play... then pano kung nk shoot din ang TNT lamang sila... Ginebra will inbound the ball from the back court kc wla ng timeout... mas mababa ang chances mo to win the game mas mahirap ang ang dumepensa when your just leading with a 1pt or 2pt.. so yung mga coach mas gusto nila take the last shot and win the game... its a 50:50 Win and loss situation Both sides walang timeout chief. Not to mention undermanned ang BGSM. so who's next for ginebra and when? Barako Bull on December 13, SMAC. Schedule naman tayo minsan ng EB ng BGSM fans ng MTC! Edited December 10, 2013 by Kyoji_Kagami Quote Link to comment
photographer Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 (edited) 4h Quarter Barangay Ginebra San Miguel vs Talk n Text http://youtu.be/Cz0-zcg3vh4 Makikita ninyo ako diyan sa crowd Nauulol sa kasisigaw (hindi yung blondie ha! Edited December 11, 2013 by photographer Quote Link to comment
fatchubs Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 In hindsight madaling mag comment na bakit may itinirang 1.1 seconds pa. Pero if you are the coach and the player executing the play "spit second" decision yan at hindi mo na matatancha na sagadin ang oras. IMHO tama naman un naging desisyon ng coach pati un diskarte ni LA. If you notice LA wasted the time and started the "offensive attack" with around 5 seconds remaining. Sa Basketball eto ang usual na ginagawa if you want to take the LAST SHOT. It just so happened that nun pinasa ni LA kay Japeth un bola he decided to take the three thus may natirang 1.1 seconds. Pero kung covered si Japeth nun malamang nag drive un for the shot which would most likely leave no time remaining sa shot clock. I wonder how many offensive boards GSM gave away to TnT? 2 1 Quote Link to comment
darksoulriver Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Both sides walang timeout chief. weird.. pano nagawa yung play ni De Ocampo kung wlang time out si TNT Quote Link to comment
fatchubs Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 baka kaya nasabing undermanned ang GSM that game kasi may sakit si LA at si MC47. kahit na nakapaglaro hindi 100% 1 1 Quote Link to comment
jepoyskieLOVEbianca Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 sa tingin ko mas general rule na sa basketball na sa mga clutch moments (dying seconds of the game) everyone would choose to be on the lead than to be taking risk while being down by 1... Quote Link to comment
Kazekage.Gaara Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 ^^ my bad on the timeout thingy. I was thnkng about the RDO blocked shot at the time. About being undermanned, with LA and MC47 both down with flu, that's what i was saying po. Quote Link to comment
RED2018 Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Recent guest in our country, the legendary coach and Nike director for global sports commented on the Gin Kings vs. Tnt game which he saw live... http://www.philstar.com/sports/2013/12/12/1267141/hoops-guru-maintains-castro-could-play-nba Quote Link to comment
jepoyskieLOVEbianca Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Recent guest in our country, the legendary coach and Nike director for global sports commented on the Gin Kings vs. Tnt game which he saw live... http://www.philstar....-could-play-nba haha, even a great coach would not take a last second shot Quote Link to comment
photographer Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 (edited) Actually nuong nag ubos ng oras yung Ginebra, maraming nagsisigawan na na itira na. Napag isip ko rin na sobrang inubos ang oras. Its alright kung tie ang laban but down? You have to give yourselves an opporunity for more time for rebound and put back OR if you miss, foul the opposing player who gets the rebound. Well, nangyari na pero usap usapan nga sa Coliseum yung decision ni Ato at pumasok pa sa usapan yung style ni Baby Dalupan, and his student, Jaworski. Pati si Manotoc napag usapan. Buti naipasok ni Japeth then the subsequent block to seal the game para sa atin. It's coach's call pero sa itsura ni Alfrancis, gustong mag oppose. Edited December 12, 2013 by photographer Quote Link to comment
darksoulriver Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 its make or break yung 3pts ni Japeth.. pero better magpalit na rin sila ng Coach hehehe Quote Link to comment
jepoyskieLOVEbianca Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Actually nuong nag ubos ng oras yung Ginebra, maraming nagsisigawan na na itira na. Napag isip ko rin na sobrang inubos ang oras. Its alright kung tie ang laban but down? You have to give yourselves an opporunity for more time for rebound and put back OR if you miss, foul the opposing player who gets the rebound. Well, nangyari na pero usap usapan nga sa Coliseum yung decision ni Ato at pumasok pa sa usapan yung style ni Baby Dalupan, and his student, Jaworski. Pati si Manotoc napag usapan. Buti naipasok ni Japeth then the subsequent block to seal the game para sa atin. It's coach's call pero sa itsura ni Alfrancis, gustong mag oppose. same point as mine boss, you have to give your self another chance... para hindi sablay-talo ang sitwasyon.... Quote Link to comment
RED2018 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Ato is just not yet seasoned...he may play the game well, but it's not enough. Swerte lang nuong napa-champion niya ang SMB...kung di siya tatanggalin, sana lang swertehin uli! Quote Link to comment
*kalel* Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I think there is no perfect bball team.... Even jordan's bulls experienced yung ganun..... Ang maganda, exciting yung game at completed ng gsm yung comeback 1 Quote Link to comment
photographer Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) Ginebra should hone more on defense. Kulang talaga. And their free throws. Good thing gumana ang dalawang higante natin kanina. Edited December 13, 2013 by photographer Quote Link to comment
Kazekage.Gaara Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Nakakatuwang nakakalungkot na yung mga player na binitawan ng Ginebra via trade ang nagpahirap sa atin kgbi. Pero nice clamping up on defense. Quote Link to comment
Agent_mulder Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 (edited) So far, so good for Ginebra, sana ego won't set in among the players lalo na sa twin towers nila, I remember EJ Feihl noon circa 1998, na nagpalipat sa purefoods then later on magso-sorry ke Jawo, akala n'ya yata napalagaling n'ya while si Marlou naman nagpa-trade and ended up with the defunct SLR (circa 2000 yata), noong time na wala na si Jawo sa Ginebra. Also, ang linis pa sana ng slate nila kung 'di lang malakas ang tsamba ni Rabeh noong game na 'yun, wala namang sinabi 'yan eh, noong nakalaban nga nila ang smc 'di makaporma ke pingris 'yan eh.... Recent guest in our country, the legendary coach and Nike director for global sports commented on the Gin Kings vs. Tnt game which he saw live... http://www.philstar.com/sports/2013/12/12/1267141/hoops-guru-maintains-castro-could-play-nba Medyo OT pero Castro is not the best pg in Asia for nothing, naglaro na nga sa Singapore Slingers 'yan before entering the PBA eh. Edited December 15, 2013 by Agent_mulder Quote Link to comment
*kalel* Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 magaling si castro pero mas magaling si la sa tingin ko 1 Quote Link to comment
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