junix Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Also, add mo na sa sama ng laro 'yung napakadaming turn-overs nila sir tama ka chief...kaliwa't-kanan ang mga turn-overs. yun bang daig pa nila yung naglalaro sa uaap. anyway, a win is a win...let's just hope that lessons have been learned especially from that last game. Quote Link to comment
photographer Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 I think that JR Reyes should also be credited mga sir, noong nasa labas si Japeth si JR ang nakikipagpalitan ng mukha sa loob eh hehe. As for post moves, alam naman nating mas comfortable si Japeth facing the basket kesa sa post moves, kagabi nga gigil na gigil maka slam dunk kaso matindi din ang interior defense ng tnt at talagang hard pero duty fouls ang aabutin nila kina RDO, Anthony at K-Will Ginebra's big men esp. when Greg, Japeth or JR Reyes makes a lot of players think twice or change their shot Mas lalo kung kasama sa rotation si Mamaril Sir kaso si MC47 ang inabot n'ya sa picture na ginamit mo eh hehe hihihi kaya may "hehehe" Walang ka-kwenta kwenta si Ato, maski pa nanalo sila, ang sagwa ng spacing nila sa loob, napuna n'yo din siguro 'yun, sina Greg at Japeth or JR would give picks pero nakadikit pa din sila sa teammate nila na binibigyan nila ng picks, buti na lang Japeth save the day/game for them with that 3-point dagger at block Kung hindi nag drama si Eala baka si long hair pa rin ang head coach. Mas exciting for sure ang takbuhan. Quote Link to comment
jepoyskieLOVEbianca Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Guys, don't get me wrong dito post na ito ha, naaappreciate ko na a win is a win... naka-swerte mano sinadya... ewan ko kung ako lang ang may ganitong opinyon, pero another proof ng katangahan ni Coach Ato eh yung play nya sa last 20 seconds (hindi ko sure yung saktong time pero around ganyang time pa ang natitira...) nagtataka ko kung bakit sila nag-uubos ng oras eh lamang ang TNT ng 1-point, imagine lamang ang kalaban tapos ang play ni Ato eh take the last shot??? sorry for the word pero I really found it a bit stupid to design a play like that... imagine if Aguilar missed the shot, eh di halos wala nang oras para makagawa pa ulit ng isang tira??? (take note na ang original play eh go hard to the basket, so mauubos din yung natirang 1.1 second, nagkataon lang na itinira na ni Aguilar sa labas kaya may natirang oras), kung namintis yun wala nang second chance, kasi nga inubos yung oras... mas tama na they should have taken it early, para kung magmintis man eh din may oras pa para sa second chance, kung ma-shoot naman, eh di mas ok na na BGSM yung nasa defensive side at lamang, kesa sila naghahabol... tsk3... coaching lapses na naman... Quote Link to comment
direstraits94 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) Guys, don't get me wrong dito post na ito ha, naaappreciate ko na a win is a win... naka-swerte mano sinadya... ewan ko kung ako lang ang may ganitong opinyon, pero another proof ng katangahan ni Coach Ato eh yung play nya sa last 20 seconds (hindi ko sure yung saktong time pero around ganyang time pa ang natitira...) nagtataka ko kung bakit sila nag-uubos ng oras eh lamang ang TNT ng 1-point, imagine lamang ang kalaban tapos ang play ni Ato eh take the last shot??? sorry for the word pero I really found it a bit stupid to design a play like that... imagine if Aguilar missed the shot, eh di halos wala nang oras para makagawa pa ulit ng isang tira??? (take note na ang original play eh go hard to the basket, so mauubos din yung natirang 1.1 second, nagkataon lang na itinira na ni Aguilar sa labas kaya may natirang oras), kung namintis yun wala nang second chance, kasi nga inubos yung oras... mas tama na they should have taken it early, para kung magmintis man eh din may oras pa para sa second chance, kung ma-shoot naman, eh di mas ok na na BGSM yung nasa defensive side at lamang, kesa sila naghahabol... tsk3... coaching lapses na naman... I'm also against Ato's as a coach pero kanya - kanya diskarte yan ng coach e...papaano kung itinira kaagad then naka shoot .. e di lamang ang bgk ng 1 pt., e papaano naman kung TNT ang mag-ubos ng oras tapos naka shoot e di talo ang bgk assuming wala ng oras....marami na rin coach ang gumawa ng decision ni Ato....its either a win or loss...it still a win kahit parang walang play ang ginebra Edited December 10, 2013 by direstraits94 Quote Link to comment
jepoyskieLOVEbianca Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 I'm also against Ato's as a coach pero kanya - kanya diskarte yan ng coach e...papaano kung itinira kaagad then naka shoot .. e di lamang ang bgk ng 1 pt., e papaano naman kung TNT ang mag-ubos ng oras tapos naka shoot e di talo ang bgk assuming wala ng oras....marami na rin coach ang gumawa ng decision ni Ato....its either a win or loss...it still a win kahit parang walang play ang ginebra sir, with all due respect, i think you didn't get my point... sir, no matter what situation you are in, in a basketball game... whether youare on the offensive side or on the defensive side, when the clock is running down,specially during the clutch seconds, it would always be better to be on the lead... take a a little time to read my example...if you are to choose, what situation would you want to be in... A.Time is running out, the opponent is leading by one... then you'll be hopingthat the next play would favor you??? (no benefit of hindsight please) B.Time is running out, you are leading by one... then you'll be hoping that the next play wouldfavor you??? (no benefit of hindsight please) it will always be better to be on the lead and then trust your defense,than take a last second shot and just hope you'd make it... in my point, if ever the shot missed, BGSM still would have a second chance since there still would be a time remaining to do so... Quote Link to comment
bibbokid23 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Guys, don't get me wrong dito post na ito ha, naaappreciate ko na a win is a win... naka-swerte mano sinadya... ewan ko kung ako lang ang may ganitong opinyon, pero another proof ng katangahan ni Coach Ato eh yung play nya sa last 20 seconds (hindi ko sure yung saktong time pero around ganyang time pa ang natitira...) nagtataka ko kung bakit sila nag-uubos ng oras eh lamang ang TNT ng 1-point, imagine lamang ang kalaban tapos ang play ni Ato eh take the last shot??? sorry for the word pero I really found it a bit stupid to design a play like that... imagine if Aguilar missed the shot, eh di halos wala nang oras para makagawa pa ulit ng isang tira??? (take note na ang original play eh go hard to the basket, so mauubos din yung natirang 1.1 second, nagkataon lang na itinira na ni Aguilar sa labas kaya may natirang oras), kung namintis yun wala nang second chance, kasi nga inubos yung oras... mas tama na they should have taken it early, para kung magmintis man eh din may oras pa para sa second chance, kung ma-shoot naman, eh di mas ok na na BGSM yung nasa defensive side at lamang, kesa sila naghahabol... tsk3... coaching lapses na naman... coach ato just trusted his players.. for me it was a good decision to go for the win at the very last moment para hindi na makabawi TnT.. Ato even knew that L.A wasn't playing that well but still he designed a play and let L.A drive to the basket and take the winning shot.. Tnt knew that so L.A trusted Japeth and gave him the ball to nail that dagger.. For me even if they lost that game, it will be good for the team, coz they are starting to trust each other and play like how a team should.. it was a bonus that they won.. so im really hoping that this win will boost the chemistry of BGSM Quote Link to comment
direstraits94 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) sir, with all due respect, i think you didn't get my point... sir, no matter what situation you are in, in a basketball game... whether youare on the offensive side or on the defensive side, when the clock is running down,specially during the clutch seconds, it would always be better to be on the lead... take a a little time to read my example...if you are to choose, what situation would you want to be in... A.Time is running out, the opponent is leading by one... then you'll be hopingthat the next play would favor you??? (no benefit of hindsight please) B.Time is running out, you are leading by one... then you'll be hoping that the next play wouldfavor you??? (no benefit of hindsight please) it will always be better to be on the lead and then trust your defense,than take a last second shot and just hope you'd make it... in my point, if ever the shot missed, BGSM still would have a second chance since there still would be a time remaining to do so...that's why I said kanya- kanya diskarte yan, that is the situation he choosed ang mag- ubos ng oras luckily it works for him .Your point if shot missed hindi pa rin naman sigurado na sa kanila uli ang bola Edited December 10, 2013 by direstraits94 Quote Link to comment
ray004 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 classic rule in basketball coaching "Always take the last shot." Quote Link to comment
direstraits94 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 classic rule in basketball coaching "Always take the last shot."agree Quote Link to comment
Lyoto Machida Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) Good Job GSM! despite some lapses and errors, and ailing players (due to flu) from Greg, Jayjay, to Mark and now LA. excellent game for Aguilar, Baracael and Monfort! These guys are the future of GSM! first honorable mention na din kay Chris Ellis and Greg Slaughter for their effort from 1st Quarter up to the last Quarter. suwerte ka pa din Ato Agustin at magagaling ang players mo kahit na lousy ka mag coach! you want to take a last shot eh lamang ang kalaban nyo at kayo ang naghahabol??? hindi bale sana kung tabla ang score! Edited December 10, 2013 by Lyoto Machida Quote Link to comment
jepoyskieLOVEbianca Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 coach ato just trusted his players.. for me it was a good decision to go for the win at the very last moment para hindi na makabawi TnT.. Ato even knew that L.A wasn't playing that well but still he designed a play and let L.A drive to the basket and take the winning shot.. Tnt knew that so L.A trusted Japeth and gave him the ball to nail that dagger.. For me even if they lost that game, it will be good for the team, coz they are starting to trust each other and play like how a team should.. it was a bonus that they won.. so im really hoping that this win will boost the chemistry of BGSM mga sir, hindi po ako nakikipagtalo sa inyo ha, BGSM fan din ako... just sharing my thoughts on what happened... sir, trust on your teammates doesn't focus on offense alone... if you completely trust your teammates, pati sa depensa dapat naniniwala ka na mapipigilan nyo ang kalaban... ang sakin is the back-up plan sir... what if it missed, wala na chance kasi kayo na mismo umubos sa oras... no matter how we trust each other, dapat may back-up plan pa din tayo... Quote Link to comment
jepoyskieLOVEbianca Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 that's why I said kanya- kanya diskarte yan, that is the situation he choosed ang mag- ubos ng oras luckily it works for him .Your point if shot missed hindi pa rin naman sigurado na sa kanila uli ang bola tama ka sir, hindi pa din sigurado na kanila pa din ang bola, kaya nga i'm saying thatthey're just giving themselves a SECOND CHANCE... walang assurance pero at leastmay chance pa... kasi may oras pa... Quote Link to comment
jepoyskieLOVEbianca Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Good Job GSM! despite some lapses and errors, and ailing players (due to flu) from Greg, Jayjay, to Mark and now LA. excellent game for Aguilar, Baracael and Monfort! These guys are the future of GSM! first honorable mention na din kay Chris Ellis and Greg Slaughter for their effort from 1st Quarter up to the last Quarter. suwerte ka pa din Ato Agustin at magagaling ang players mo kahit na lousy ka mag coach! you want to take a last shot eh lamang ang kalaban nyo at kayo ang naghahabol??? hindi bale sana kung tabla ang score! agree sir, same point as mine... if you're in the lead or tabla ang score ok lang mag-ubos ng oras... pero pag lamang ang kalaban, syempre you need to have back-up plans, magmintis man, may chance pa ulit... kesa naman pag nagmintis talo na agad... if Ato really trusted his players, maniniwala din dapat sya na kaya nilang gumawa ng magandang stop kung sakaling maka-shoot sila at may oras pa ang TNT na gumawa ng play... Quote Link to comment
direstraits94 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 tama ka sir, hindi pa din sigurado na kanila pa din ang bola, kaya nga i'm saying thatthey're just giving themselves a SECOND CHANCE... walang assurance pero at leastmay chance pa... kasi may oras pa... let's just agree to disagree,there are several possible scenario in that last game,luckily its a win.... this is just a friendly pleasantry..... Quote Link to comment
darksoulriver Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 agree sir, same point as mine... if you're in the lead or tabla ang score ok lang mag-ubos ng oras... pero pag lamang ang kalaban, syempre you need to have back-up plans, magmintis man, may chance pa ulit... kesa naman pag nagmintis talo na agad... if Ato really trusted his players, maniniwala din dapat sya na kaya nilang gumawa ng magandang stop kung sakaling maka-shoot sila at may oras pa ang TNT na gumawa ng play... i think wla ng timeout ang Ginebra kaya inubos nila yung oras and take the last shot. if ever lng nman they shot early and made the shot... may time out pa ang TNT to set a play... then pano kung nk shoot din ang TNT lamang sila... Ginebra will inbound the ball from the back court kc wla ng timeout... mas mababa ang chances mo to win the game mas mahirap ang ang dumepensa when your just leading with a 1pt or 2pt.. so yung mga coach mas gusto nila take the last shot and win the game... its a 50:50 Win and loss situation Quote Link to comment
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