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kung napapanood mo ang nbn sports tuwing hapon sa channel 4.. ilan beses ininterview si coach jong regarding the trades na pinapasukan niya. siya mismo ang nagsasabi na kailangan niya ng guards dahil madalas mainjured ang mga guards niya. to the extent naman na puro guards nalang ang nasa lineup niya. it's the team manager who makes the trade deals, pero kinukunsulta muna si coach jong bago sila pumasok sa mga deals na yan.

 

i agree because as the coach, jong must also have to be consulted and tell management what kind of team he wants and the players on his team. as far as management is concerned, it can only make the deals after consultation with the coaching staff. i don't think management will do it on its own.

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when jong was still a player, i assume he played the guard position? hehehe

weird nga na they have 4 players who are physically similar to each other and have the same game (jayjayhelt, miller, caguioa, cortez), baka parang tryouts ang season na ito to see who gets cut/traded? caguioa & jayjay are getting injured a lot so i'm thinking sila ang out, pero in terms of fan support sila ang identified na true gins eh, unlike miller who's still identified as an alaska ace and cortez who is identified as just a mercenary.

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i agree because as the coach, jong must also have to be consulted and tell management what kind of team he wants and the players on his team. as far as management is concerned, it can only make the deals after consultation with the coaching staff. i don't think management will do it on its own.

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this has not always been the case sir..remember when the management tampered with bgk staff back when jaworski was at helm. the Big J took a leave of absence and when he came back, there were new faces at the bench. the management did that without consulting jaworski hence the fallout between Jawo and the SMC management.

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I believe that with this line-up and with Sonny J as coach, Ginebra can establish a dynasty. If he led a ragtag unit of the Loyzaga brothers, Ampalayo, Gonzalgo to an All-Filipino championship vs. a powerhouse Purefoods team of Codinera, Captain Lionheart and Jolas in the 1988 All-Filipino Conference, I don't see why Ginebra couldn't establish a dynasty with its current line-up.

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If management is the one calling the shots when it comes to players changes, why is Jong still coaching Ginebra? Dapat lumayas na siya kasi hindi na siya pinapankinggan, just like na ginawa ni Jawo. The only team I know that does not consult its coach was the then Red Bull kaya nag resign si Yeng Absentee Guiao. Ang pagkakaiba lang, wala na talaga pera ang Red Bull nuon kaya pinamimigay nila, in exchange for monetary consideration, yung mga star players ng team.

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I believe that with this line-up and with Sonny J as coach, Ginebra can establish a dynasty. If he led a ragtag unit of the Loyzaga brothers, Ampalayo, Gonzalgo to an All-Filipino championship vs. a powerhouse Purefoods team of Codinera, Captain Lionheart and Jolas in the 1988 All-Filipino Conference, I don't see why Ginebra couldn't establish a dynasty with its current line-up.

:ohmy: FYI, the Big J only won the all filipino title once and its was with a powerhouse but rookie laden team they beat. Purefood may have lost due to inexperience.

 

Bottomline he won once and we're talking about building a dynasty here? Good luck!

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Problem I see about the Gin Kings is that the weakness is not on the guards but the bigs who are either aging, inconsistent or injured. Sad to say instead of improving on this aspect, they continously try to trade for guards.

 

But I think Miller contract is expiring and I do hope he would just be traded to get an able big.

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Guys I know na mahal natin ang barangay kaya ganito tau mag react but come to think of this. SMB was loaded with an all star cast since 2008 and other teams are scared because of their line up but what happened? my point is before we keep blaming coach jong, caguioa, miller, JJ, or BGK management. We should look after progress. SMB took two years before nila na harvest ung line up nila..sinisisi rin si Siot during that time pero kung titignan mo nga sila ngaun, mas malakas ang locals ng barangay. kaya lang sila mataas coz they got an energetic Freeman. Imagine kung napunta sa atin si freeman?

 

Im sorry to tell you this guyz, may revamp na mangyayari but hindi involve si jong. ang sabi menk, mc,JJ, miller, tubid, intal will stay. hihintayin nila ang offical line up ng meralco kc interesado sila kay ali peek and marlou aquino, interesado rin sila kay peter june simon ng bmeg.

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Guys I know na mahal natin ang barangay kaya ganito tau mag react but come to think of this. SMB was loaded with an all star cast since 2008 and other teams are scared because of their line up but what happened? my point is before we keep blaming coach jong, caguioa, miller, JJ, or BGK management. We should look after progress. SMB took two years before nila na harvest ung line up nila..sinisisi rin si Siot during that time pero kung titignan mo nga sila ngaun, mas malakas ang locals ng barangay. kaya lang sila mataas coz they got an energetic Freeman. Imagine kung napunta sa atin si freeman?

 

Im sorry to tell you this guyz, may revamp na mangyayari but hindi involve si jong. ang sabi menk, mc,JJ, miller, tubid, intal will stay. hihintayin nila ang offical line up ng meralco kc interesado sila kay ali peek and marlou aquino, interesado rin sila kay peter june simon ng bmeg.

 

Sa part ng smb, kaya nila maghintay ng two years to finally show what they are capable of dahil bata pa ang mga players nila.. pero with the bgk's lineup, na halos aging na, then interested pa sila sa mga aging big men na sila peek at marlou? wala na tayong hihintaying two years dahil hindi na tatagal ng 2 years ang mga players na yan.

 

hindi ba ang isang team pag nanalo ng championship, usually magpapalakas pa yan para masustain ang winning records nila? after bgk won championship last year, bakit parang bumaba na ang game nila? also, if you notice, ang hilig ni coach jong magpasok ng 3 guards combination kahit hindi na effective ito sa isang game (pwedeng effective ito sa isang game, pero hindi sa susunod na game). pero come next game, ganun parin ang strategy niya, usually ang coach nagaadjust yan pag natalo sila, pero si coach jong ganun parin ang strategy niya kahit ineffective na nung last game.

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Sa part ng smb, kaya nila maghintay ng two years to finally show what they are capable of dahil bata pa ang mga players nila.. pero with the bgk's lineup, na halos aging na, then interested pa sila sa mga aging big men na sila peek at marlou? wala na tayong hihintaying two years dahil hindi na tatagal ng 2 years ang mga players na yan.

 

hindi ba ang isang team pag nanalo ng championship, usually magpapalakas pa yan para masustain ang winning records nila? after bgk won championship last year, bakit parang bumaba na ang game nila? also, if you notice, ang hilig ni coach jong magpasok ng 3 guards combination kahit hindi na effective ito sa isang game (pwedeng effective ito sa isang game, pero hindi sa susunod na game). pero come next game, ganun parin ang strategy niya, usually ang coach nagaadjust yan pag natalo sila, pero si coach jong ganun parin ang strategy niya kahit ineffective na nung last game.

Sir ragarding 2 years ng SMB, aging na rin sila nun at puro injured pa, peña, pennisi, hontiveros, racela, seigle,tugade and adducol. ang alas lang nila that time is jwash na hindi pa masyado maganda ang performance kaya halos umilalim sila sa standing.last year lang nila kinuha si arwind at nakita husay ni villanueva.

 

regarding 3 guard rotation, medyo sablay nga talaga ito lalo na pag powerhouse ang kalaban mo. dapat instead na pagsabayin ung 3 guard. Put a slasher forward sa # 3 spot (Intal, salvacion,ferriols at kahit si homer se) coz this guyz can really break the zone at masisipag ito sa rebound. Kung kukunin nila si marlou, I think may laro pa sya kaya lang naging batugan sya sa sta.lucia ( and I want to see him redeemed his self like Paras did before he left shell, after 10 years nag MVP sya ulit) sa barngay mapupursige si marlou. (KUNG LANG NAMAN PO).

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Sir ragarding 2 years ng SMB, aging na rin sila nun at puro injured pa, peña, pennisi, hontiveros, racela, seigle,tugade and adducol. ang alas lang nila that time is jwash na hindi pa masyado maganda ang performance kaya halos umilalim sila sa standing.last year lang nila kinuha si arwind at nakita husay ni villanueva.

 

regarding 3 guard rotation, medyo sablay nga talaga ito lalo na pag powerhouse ang kalaban mo. dapat instead na pagsabayin ung 3 guard. Put a slasher forward sa # 3 spot (Intal, salvacion,ferriols at kahit si homer se) coz this guyz can really break the zone at masisipag ito sa rebound. Kung kukunin nila si marlou, I think may laro pa sya kaya lang naging batugan sya sa sta.lucia ( and I want to see him redeemed his self like Paras did before he left shell, after 10 years nag MVP sya ulit) sa barngay mapupursige si marlou. (KUNG LANG NAMAN PO).

 

 

Mas ok naman si Marlou kaysa kay Yancy. Siguro ang kailangan lang kay Marlou yung rah rah rah ng fans. Kapag na inspire yan, medyo siguro...........siguro..............gaganahan. May laro pa naman siya kung gugustuhin. Di nga lang type niya yung crowd reaction sa Sta. Lucia. Fighter din ito kapag nabubuyo.

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