Barangay Ginebra Kings

[photographer]

Isa pang player na nasayang lang dahil sa 3 guard combo ni Jong, Ginebra needs someone like him when push comes to shove, wala na din yata sa roster nila si Se sa dami ba naman ng guards nila, isa pang nasayang sa tingin ko si Junjun Cabatu, si Bugia sayang din (kung nasa gin pa s'ya) dahil masipag din sa ilalim 'yan....

 

Sus! Oo nga ano, ako nga nakalimutan ko na sina Bugia at Cabatu! May malalaki pala tayo, naibaon na sa limot dahil kay Jong! Ano ba yan! Eh, mas magaling naman si Bugia o Cabatu kaysa sa inutin na si Yancy!

[alpardpba]

hindi naman kasalanan lahat ni jong, it's about the numbers, you only have 240 minutes (per game) to distribute among 12 players, and realistically only 60 minutes (per game) of playing time for 7 players (after the 1st five plays 3 quarters per player), eh sa dami ng good (but not great) players ng ginebra, hirap sa rotation. or maybe dahil limited ang minutes kaya ang good players hindi maging great?

[khilua23]

hindi naman kasalanan lahat ni jong, it's about the numbers, you only have 240 minutes (per game) to distribute among 12 players, and realistically only 60 minutes (per game) of playing time for 7 players (after the 1st five plays 3 quarters per player), eh sa dami ng good (but not great) players ng ginebra, hirap sa rotation. or maybe dahil limited ang minutes kaya ang good players hindi maging great?

 

hindi naman dahil maraming good players ang bgk ay reason na para sabihin nahihirapan sila sa rotation. dahil sa coach' strategy parin ito.. remember, the 4 teams playing in the semis has atleast 9 or 10 good players, pero nagagawa parin ng coaches na magrotate ng players to contribute to the team. it's not about having few good players, it's about having few good guards sharing the playing minutes, while having limited big men.. and having a coach so obsessed in having so much guards in their line up that they are willing to let go of their big men.

[alpardpba]

also, hindi naman siguro kasalanan ni jong ang lineup -- i would think it's the team manager who thinks up the deals that are made. siguro ang pagkakamali nga ni jong is guard-dominated ang teams niya and kulang nga siya ng bigs, pero i had the idea that this was a result of some management decisions, hindi sa coach. and by management, i mean san miguel corp, to improve their 4 teams?

[khilua23]

also, hindi naman siguro kasalanan ni jong ang lineup -- i would think it's the team manager who thinks up the deals that are made. siguro ang pagkakamali nga ni jong is guard-dominated ang teams niya and kulang nga siya ng bigs, pero i had the idea that this was a result of some management decisions, hindi sa coach. and by management, i mean san miguel corp, to improve their 4 teams?

 

kung napapanood mo ang nbn sports tuwing hapon sa channel 4.. ilan beses ininterview si coach jong regarding the trades na pinapasukan niya. siya mismo ang nagsasabi na kailangan niya ng guards dahil madalas mainjured ang mga guards niya. to the extent naman na puro guards nalang ang nasa lineup niya. it's the team manager who makes the trade deals, pero kinukunsulta muna si coach jong bago sila pumasok sa mga deals na yan.

[junix]

Isa pang player na nasayang lang dahil sa 3 guard combo ni Jong, Ginebra needs someone like him when push comes to shove, wala na din yata sa roster nila si Se sa dami ba naman ng guards nila, isa pang nasayang sa tingin ko si Junjun Cabatu, si Bugia sayang din (kung nasa gin pa s'ya) dahil masipag din sa ilalim 'yan....

 

 

Sus! Oo nga ano, ako nga nakalimutan ko na sina Bugia at Cabatu! May malalaki pala tayo, naibaon na sa limot dahil kay Jong! Ano ba yan! Eh, mas magaling naman si Bugia o Cabatu kaysa sa inutin na si Yancy!

bugia, ferriols, cabatu, mamaril, se...players, to name a few, who were either benched by jong or not given the opportunity to shine. i'd hate to see that day when even the talent of wilson will be put to waste. tingin ko lang, kung si big j ang humawak dito sa kings, malamang napakinabangan itong mga to. what a waste of talents.

[junix]

kung napapanood mo ang nbn sports tuwing hapon sa channel 4.. ilan beses ininterview si coach jong regarding the trades na pinapasukan niya. siya mismo ang nagsasabi na kailangan niya ng guards dahil madalas mainjured ang mga guards niya. to the extent naman na puro guards nalang ang nasa lineup niya. it's the team manager who makes the trade deals, pero kinukunsulta muna si coach jong bago sila pumasok sa mga deals na yan.

 

i agree because as the coach, jong must also have to be consulted and tell management what kind of team he wants and the players on his team. as far as management is concerned, it can only make the deals after consultation with the coaching staff. i don't think management will do it on its own.

[orionquest]

dapat ang palitan sa ginebra ay yung coach. walang sistema. sayang ang team. malakas ang line up nito. ni hindi na umaabot ng semis eh.

[Archdevil]

Ano na balita sa BGK? Ano changes na sa lineup nila?

[alpardpba]

when jong was still a player, i assume he played the guard position? hehehe

weird nga na they have 4 players who are physically similar to each other and have the same game (jayjayhelt, miller, caguioa, cortez), baka parang tryouts ang season na ito to see who gets cut/traded? caguioa & jayjay are getting injured a lot so i'm thinking sila ang out, pero in terms of fan support sila ang identified na true gins eh, unlike miller who's still identified as an alaska ace and cortez who is identified as just a mercenary.

[ray004]

i agree because as the coach, jong must also have to be consulted and tell management what kind of team he wants and the players on his team. as far as management is concerned, it can only make the deals after consultation with the coaching staff. i don't think management will do it on its own.

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this has not always been the case sir..remember when the management tampered with bgk staff back when jaworski was at helm. the Big J took a leave of absence and when he came back, there were new faces at the bench. the management did that without consulting jaworski hence the fallout between Jawo and the SMC management.

[Guest hastati]

I believe that with this line-up and with Sonny J as coach, Ginebra can establish a dynasty. If he led a ragtag unit of the Loyzaga brothers, Ampalayo, Gonzalgo to an All-Filipino championship vs. a powerhouse Purefoods team of Codinera, Captain Lionheart and Jolas in the 1988 All-Filipino Conference, I don't see why Ginebra couldn't establish a dynasty with its current line-up.

[photographer]

If management is the one calling the shots when it comes to players changes, why is Jong still coaching Ginebra? Dapat lumayas na siya kasi hindi na siya pinapankinggan, just like na ginawa ni Jawo. The only team I know that does not consult its coach was the then Red Bull kaya nag resign si Yeng Absentee Guiao. Ang pagkakaiba lang, wala na talaga pera ang Red Bull nuon kaya pinamimigay nila, in exchange for monetary consideration, yung mga star players ng team.

[ray004]

since Meralco has purchased the Sta. Lucia franchise, BGK should get Ali Peek. Peek's contract has already expired.

[CELTS]

I believe that with this line-up and with Sonny J as coach, Ginebra can establish a dynasty. If he led a ragtag unit of the Loyzaga brothers, Ampalayo, Gonzalgo to an All-Filipino championship vs. a powerhouse Purefoods team of Codinera, Captain Lionheart and Jolas in the 1988 All-Filipino Conference, I don't see why Ginebra couldn't establish a dynasty with its current line-up.

FYI, the Big J only won the all filipino title once and its was with a powerhouse but rookie laden team they beat. Purefood may have lost due to inexperience.

 

Bottomline he won once and we're talking about building a dynasty here? Good luck!

Edited July 28, 2010 by CELTS