Barangay Ginebra Kings

[rosaroso27]

nice win ka barangay...

[chonggo]

Magkano kaya salary ni Helterbrand. Sana veteran's minimum na lang. Wala ma rin naman syang gaanong ambag sa team e.

[azraelmd]

napangiti na lang ako nung nakita ko tong scene na to kagabi. sobrang nostalgic lang.

in other news pala, as of now, #2 na ang Ginebra sa next draft picking. Sana eh magpadraft si RayRay para sa atin ang punta ni Kiefer.

Lastly... Helterbrand signed a contract extension. 3 years. At may iniinda palang injury ito sa balikat, explaining the almost zero playing time.

Sure na yun #2 draft pick? Kahit phoenix is still performing well ngayon?...

 

Daming good tall guards sa next draft...tapos may mga big men too....

[bughaw1]

Sure na yun #2 draft pick? Kahit phoenix is still performing well ngayon?...

 

Daming good tall guards sa next draft...tapos may mga big men too....

Hindi pa. After governors cup chaka malalaman yung order ng draft. Madami pa pwede mangyari.

[vienvenido]

Ansaya ng tulog ko... Congrats bgk... Merakco namn

[daphne loves derby]

napangiti na lang ako nung nakita ko tong scene na to kagabi. sobrang nostalgic lang.

 

in other news pala, as of now, #2 na ang Ginebra sa next draft picking. Sana eh magpadraft si RayRay para sa atin ang punta ni Kiefer.

 

Lastly... Helterbrand signed a contract extension. 3 years. At may iniinda palang injury ito sa balikat, explaining the almost zero playing time.

 

seriously??? hindi na nga dapat i extend, 3 years pa binigay?? as if sobrang productive pa niya mas lalo na for the coming 3 years.

ibang klase talaga tong si Chua. tsk tsk.

 

mas ok sana kung magiging part na lang ng coaching staff si JJ

[photographer]

Tim Cone thinks Jayjay Helterbrand can play beyond 40

 

Jayjay Helterbrand is turning 40 this October, but Barangay Ginebra coach Tim Cone is convinced that the veteran Kings guard can still compete at a high level for another 2 years.

 

Helterbrand though has been buried deep in the bench, having to play behind starting playmaker LA Tenorio and rookie Scottie Thompson.

The other half of Ginebra’s once famed “Fast and Furious” backcourt has only played 5 games in the ongoing Oppo-PBA Commissioner’s Cup, averaging 0.4 point, 0.4 rebound and 0.6 assist in just 6.6 minutes.

But the American coach felt the six-foot playmaker is a much better shooter this season compared to his early years with the league’s most popular team.

“He’s quick, he’s even become a better shooter now than early in his career. He may not be as quick as going to the basket, but he‘s smart, plays the game at a high IQ level so cud he play another year or 2,” Cone told FOX Sports.

“I think he could even play through his 40s, which is unusual for guards because he’s done a great job taking care of his body,” he added.

The one-time PBA MVP’s contract is set to expire at the end of the season and Cone is uncertain if Ginebra’s long-time point guard is willing to return next year.

But should Helterbrand elect to return, the league’s multi-titled coach believes he’ll still be able to contribute.

“That’s (retirement or returning next season) gonna be up to him (Helterbrand). But his body is good and he’s still healthy and he’s quick,” Cone pointed out.

The 58-year-old Cone said he respects Helterbrand for his commitment to the game, being 1 of the 1st players to arrive in practice, working out and taking good care of his body.

“Even if he’s not getting a lot of minutes, he’s working out, taking care of his body. i think Jay’s very capable of extending his career but it’s really up to him, on how much time he wants to devote” he said.

“But that’s really the key for older players, if they can take care of their bodies, then, they can extend their careers. But if they get lazy and be the same way they were in their 20s, it ain’t gonna work for them.”

Helterbrand and pal Mark Caguioa are the only remaining holdovers from the Ginebra squad that won the franchise’s last PBA championship during the 2008 Fiesta Conference.

The 39-year-old Ginebra guard was a 2-time Mythical 1st Team member, 2-time Best Player and Finals MVP during the 2007 Philippine Cup. - By Richard Dy

[doinksdoinks]

Seeing the fast n the furious on the court at the same time brings back memories!

[Emanevaristo]

Fast and furious for the last time GINEBRA

[chonggo]

I think ang hinihintay ng Fast and the Furious is a championship bago magretire. And sana mangyari. It would be fun to watch.

[Agent_mulder]

Great scouting and preparation plus flawless execution...did it for BGK vs SMB

 

Downside is hindi pa 100% si JunMar and Tubid...and SMB's import get into foul trouble very early in the game

 

 

I think getting the import out of sync,leading to early foul trouble, was part of the gameplan... i saw cone do that to ginebra imports nung nasa alaska pa sya...

 

I was thinking before the game that the gins will fall to their usual flaws... la being defended well by ross... 3s not being defended well... ellis missing... and the gins missings 3s as well...

 

They did a fantastic job...execution was crisp... defense was flawless, ang layo ng smb sa average nila... ellis shot well... and as a bonus, they were able to hit some 3s almost negating the 3s of smb....

 

I hope they can do it again sa Meralco...

 

Nahirapan din si Wilkerson sa twin towers ng Ginebra, 'yung ibang teams mataas nga ang imports pero after ng import wala nang local na nasa 6'8 pataas, magaling din talaga ang import ng smb, kaya natural natuwa ako noong na-foul trouble na s'ya

 

sol train has been always a scorer so no surprise.

air force ellis was amazing tonight!

 

 

chief baka nasermonan ni coach tim honestly ellis does not have to be spectacular...all he has to do is to be consistent.

 

on another note, importante din talaga pag pumapasok ang 3s. sol and ellis had a couple of 3s, scottie and LA i think had one each. bumubuka yung ilalim. as for othyus, consistent pa din ang laro at masipag.

 

natuwa naman ako at pinagbigyan ni coach tim yung mga sigaw ng fans na makitang magkasama sa court yung fast and furious.

 

 

sana si Ellis ganyan ang laro na walang hesitation tumira at mabilis sa depensa kse pag ganyan ang laro nya malamang sya na ang next Ping ng Ginebra .....

 

 

mukhang natauhan si Ellis, lalo na yung rumor na iti trade siya sa NLEX for Sean Anthony. sana lang maging consistent siya at stay aggressive.

 

Ellis played excellent basketball against smb, walang takot sumalaksak, maski noong last few seconds noong first o second quarter yata 'yun sumalaksak s'ya maski si Wilkerson ang sumabay sa kanya, he just needs to be consistent and not hesitate in taking the shots kung open, sabi nga panira na wag na ipasa

napangiti na lang ako nung nakita ko tong scene na to kagabi. sobrang nostalgic lang.

 

in other news pala, as of now, #2 na ang Ginebra sa next draft picking. Sana eh magpadraft si RayRay para sa atin ang punta ni Kiefer.

 

Lastly... Helterbrand signed a contract extension. 3 years. At may iniinda palang injury ito sa balikat, explaining the almost zero playing time.

 

3-years extension? Dapat 1 year o 2 years at the most lang, salamat sa mga championships na naipanalo ng The Fast and The Furious pero kailangan din naman mag-move on ng team para maging competitive, it'll be nice for them to retire as Ginebra players and of course to win another ring before finally retiring

 

 

seriously??? hindi na nga dapat i extend, 3 years pa binigay?? as if sobrang productive pa niya mas lalo na for the coming 3 years.

ibang klase talaga tong si Chua. tsk tsk.

 

mas ok sana kung magiging part na lang ng coaching staff si JJ

 

3-years extension? Dapat 1 year o 2 years at the most lang, salamat sa mga championships na naipanalo ng The Fast and The Furious pero kailangan din naman mag-move on ng team para maging competitive sila, kasi sayang 'yung slot n'ya kung 'di naman na s'ya ganun ka-productive, mas bumilib pa nga ako ke Alapag na noong nag-retire is still on top of his game eh, for MC47 and Jay-Jay, it'll be nice for them to retire as Ginebra players and of course to win another ring before finally retiring

[azraelmd]

Yeah...ellis did play well....pero nakalimutan nyo si japhet....nde nakaporma si wilkerson at nafoul trouble cya....tapos daming sundot na rebound si japhet resulting to points by OJ...one rebound shy of double double kasi nde na pinasok ni tim....baka sya pang nagbest player of the game....pansinin nyo naman...kawawa yun bata sa kakasabon na ni tim cone eh hahahaha...

 

Pero malakas talaga si wilkerson...ganda nga ng laro kagabi wilkerson vs thornton...baka next time pwedeng kunin ng ginebra si wilkerson....

[Hari ng Spakol]

 

seriously??? hindi na nga dapat i extend, 3 years pa binigay?? as if sobrang productive pa niya mas lalo na for the coming 3 years.

ibang klase talaga tong si Chua. tsk tsk.

 

mas ok sana kung magiging part na lang ng coaching staff si JJ

 

 

Seeing the fast n the furious on the court at the same time brings back memories!

 

 

Fast and furious for the last time GINEBRA

 

I love to see Mark and JJ to be part of Ginebra coaching staff after their retirement. malaki din ang naging contributions nila for the team like championships and MVP awards. Plus they are Franchise players, dito sila sa Gins nag start, dito din magtatapos ang career nila sa basketball. alisin na lang sana sina Richard Del Rosario, Abuda at Olsen. Sana magkaroon naman ng Ginebra players ang coaching staff.

[Kazekage.Gaara]

Tim Cone thinks Jayjay Helterbrand can play beyond 40

 

Jayjay Helterbrand is turning 40 this October, but Barangay Ginebra coach Tim Cone is convinced that the veteran Kings guard can still compete at a high level for another 2 years.

 

Helterbrand though has been buried deep in the bench, having to play behind starting playmaker LA Tenorio and rookie Scottie Thompson.

The other half of Ginebras once famed Fast and Furious backcourt has only played 5 games in the ongoing Oppo-PBA Commissioners Cup, averaging 0.4 point, 0.4 rebound and 0.6 assist in just 6.6 minutes.

But the American coach felt the six-foot playmaker is a much better shooter this season compared to his early years with the leagues most popular team.

Hes quick, hes even become a better shooter now than early in his career. He may not be as quick as going to the basket, but hes smart, plays the game at a high IQ level so cud he play another year or 2, Cone told FOX Sports.

I think he could even play through his 40s, which is unusual for guards because hes done a great job taking care of his body, he added.

The one-time PBA MVPs contract is set to expire at the end of the season and Cone is uncertain if Ginebras long-time point guard is willing to return next year.

But should Helterbrand elect to return, the leagues multi-titled coach believes hell still be able to contribute.

Thats (retirement or returning next season) gonna be up to him (Helterbrand). But his body is good and hes still healthy and hes quick, Cone pointed out.

The 58-year-old Cone said he respects Helterbrand for his commitment to the game, being 1 of the 1st players to arrive in practice, working out and taking good care of his body.

Even if hes not getting a lot of minutes, hes working out, taking care of his body. i think Jays very capable of extending his career but its really up to him, on how much time he wants to devote he said.

But thats really the key for older players, if they can take care of their bodies, then, they can extend their careers. But if they get lazy and be the same way they were in their 20s, it aint gonna work for them.

Helterbrand and pal Mark Caguioa are the only remaining holdovers from the Ginebra squad that won the franchises last PBA championship during the 2008 Fiesta Conference.

The 39-year-old Ginebra guard was a 2-time Mythical 1st Team member, 2-time Best Player and Finals MVP during the 2007 Philippine Cup. - By Richard Dy

So, isa sa mga dahilan si Tim Cone kung bakit naextend ang contract ni JJ?

[junix]

So, isa sa mga dahilan si Tim Cone kung bakit naextend ang contract ni JJ?

based on the article, looks like coach tim still sees something good in jj...kaso lang ang dami nang gwardya ang ginebra.

[bughaw1]

based on the article, looks like coach tim still sees something good in jj...kaso lang ang dami nang gwardya ang ginebra.

Ang pakinabang siguro kay jj eh yung katulad ng pakinabang ni jerwin gaco sa star......pang dikdik sa practice.

[chonggo]

Ang naiisip ko na lang na maiaambag ni JJ is mentorship lalo na kay Scottie. Wag kay LA baka maging palaging pagod.

[daphne loves derby]

I think coach tim is being generous enough. Obviously, the fast and the furious would like to taste a championship again together before they retire. And coach tim wants to give them maybe at least one. It can be done.

Edited April 7, 2016 by daphne loves derby

[daphne loves derby]

looks like gary david is not going to BGSM but to SMB

[doinksdoinks]

Although gary david is a scorer, we have good bench players like cruz, salva, mariano. Kelangan lng nila playing time to show their potential

[unclejopay]

Nsd go dor gold

[Kazekage.Gaara]

With Gary David signing up for SMB, this opens up rumors of San Miguel letting go of Lutz or Tubid, even both.

[CirocBoy]

Di naman kawala si Lutz sa SMB. For some reason, never nag improve game niya. Napag iwanan na ni Lassiter in terms of skills and shooting

[doinksdoinks]

Di naman kawala si Lutz sa SMB. For some reason, never nag improve game niya. Napag iwanan na ni Lassiter in terms of skills and shooting

True lassiter sobra naging shooter na. Actually dati c lutz mei pgka sureball din kaso nwala un mga moves nya. Mas gamit pa c tubid since mei defense sya tska ng hhustle tlga. Bonus nalang un points nya. They also have ryan arana. Kaya wla playing time c lutz. Tingin ko rin sya papakawalan ng smb nyan. Andami nila ngyn sa 2 guard position

[doinksdoinks]

Para sa barangay naman, need tlga shooters. Kun titignan natin line up ngyn, halos wla shooters. Dati c caguiao kaso nwala narin shooting nya. C sol train nalang ata maasahan sa outside