TripleDouble Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 not less than a hundred? wow... this is one helluvah mess... ragnarok-level mess... Quote Link to comment
kingsville Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 A-Rod learned from Bonds and Clemens. He figured that his name has been tarnished anyway so he might as well come clean. With this strategy, he no longer has to lie under oath if and when the time comes. And his people can always put some positive spin to it (i.e. he didnt know the PEDs he was using; he only used PEDs in 2001-2003 and not since then). Incidentally, his stats went down in 2004 or 2005 so I guess he can use that as proof that he was no longer using drugs after 2003. Still, he is an admitted PED user. He is tainted. Maybe the fans can forgive and forget in time. (Im not sure the HOF voters will ever forget though) After all, he was "man" enough to admit when others before him lied. One could say though that he only admitted after he had been exposed and that indeed makes his apology rather half-assed and contrived. One other thing. Although roids have been banned in the MLB since 1991 (is this correct), there was no penalty to using PEDs in 2003. It was only in 2005 that MLB decided to impose sanctions. Isnt that weird? You ban something and yet you impose no penalties for its use? Of course these guys will use those damn PEDs, wala nga namang penalty. Tapos mukhang may confidentiality pa yung test results. The circumstances then, IMHO, provided a perfect opportunity for a ballplayer who wanted to take PEDS. Kaya yan, nagsipandaya ang mga di bababa sa isang daan sa kanila. (Under the circumstances, doesnt all this PED talk make one think that Pete Rose wasnt that bad after all? At least he didnt use any drug to boost his performance) Amen. If I were A-Rod, i would also be man enough to tell the truth; basically with the same reason..If I gonna lie, the authorities wont stop til they know the truth. (see: Bonds)Kukulitin ka nang kukulitin, di ba?The image would be totally tarnished.. but then, he has to play better than he was like before if he's really dreaming of that HOF ballot.it's just like.. the 2001-03 seasons have been deleted from his resume.and, focus on helping the Yanks win the WS, and not choke during the playoffs. Quote Link to comment
TripleDouble Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 i dunno... but as stated, with the volume of HGH / PED users during the late 90's / early 2000 era, MLB would probably have to remove an entire season or two from the books Quote Link to comment
denimhead Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 thats why MLB is partly to blame in this mess .. say what you want about the rat canseco .. but everything he's said till now has been corroborated.... even schilling is right .. make the 104 names public so the rest of the league thats clean doesnt become guilty by association... Quote Link to comment
gift_of_game Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 i dunno... but as stated, with the volume of HGH / PED users during the late 90's / early 2000 era, MLB would probably have to remove an entire season or two from the books not just a few seasons---we could be talking of an entire decade or so. in a previous interview with 60 Minutes in 2007, A-Rod lied to Katie Couric when asked if he used PED's in the past. so him telling the truth this time around, well...as Stephen A. Smith said, how are we supposed to buy this "confession" outright? Quote Link to comment
Jongkers Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 A-Rod sucks! Yankees suck! :thumbsdownsmiley: Quote Link to comment
TripleDouble Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 consig, is that you? Quote Link to comment
denimhead Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 if they made a real and honest accounting of PED/HGH users from back in the day ... im pretty sure a lot of HOFers will be on the list .. im pretty sure some legendary WS Champs will be roid powered ... heres the sad thing .. with all these coming to light ....Cal Ripken, did he or didnt he? Quote Link to comment
gift_of_game Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 ^now, that would be a sledgehammer right there. on the other hand, you feel for guys like Kent who never got into it. Quote Link to comment
denimhead Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 thats why im for opening the books .. and starting over .. every year therell be a major story on a big name using ...its taking away from the game ... Quote Link to comment
Jongkers Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 if they made a real and honest accounting of PED/HGH users from back in the day ... im pretty sure a lot of HOFers will be on the list .. im pretty sure some legendary WS Champs will be roid powered ... heres the sad thing .. with all these coming to light ....Cal Ripken, did he or didnt he? This is also one of my initial reactions kanina.Kinilabutan ako, promise.Wag naman po sana! Quote Link to comment
denimhead Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 i mean .. that record the consecutive games played.. thats very conducive to HGH/PEDs ... im optimistic he's clean... but theres always that "but" Quote Link to comment
agentjackbauer Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Ang ayaw ko talaga mapasama sa listahan ay si Greg Maddux. Idol ko talaga yun eh. Go Braves!!!:-) Quote Link to comment
denimhead Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 thats why MLBs gotta open up the books ... let the truth out then rebuild .. they still have tabachucher, johan, tex, sizemore etc etc to build on Quote Link to comment
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