boomouse Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 this is something I would like to dub as "tribu" mentality :thumbsdownsmiley: regardless of whose fault it is as long as you are perceived as better off [for any reason: mentally, physically, financially] you are obligated to "volunteer help." I've got loads of experiences with those who perceive we were better off from them: padyak, tricycle, jeepney. hay.. I believe the laws are in place but kulang na kulang ang police visibility and enforcement. It is my opinion that our government is coming up with stupid laws such as the helmet laws, stickers on our helmets, asking the motorcycle manufacturers to make provisions for a second plate, the stupid AO-15 which was recently suspended, raincoat law, and tsinelas law; precisely because of incompetent law enforcement. all in the guise of "its for your safety". To restore/maintain sanity on our roads, enforcement is only one component and it cannot be the only component. You need the three 'E's working together:Enforcement - Authorities must be on the ballEducation - Road users must understand and know the law and have enough common sense to follow it with or without enforcementEngineering - Facilities must not make it difficult to be law abiding and must not make it easy to be a law breaker (ex.: Sensibly located pedestrian overpasses; constantly repaired median fences--that are cut by stupid, jaywalking pedestrians, to prevent jaywalking; proper commuter terminals for jeepneys and buses)I will not think the helmet law is stupid until I see fewer motorcycle riders who are less so. For as long as there are people stupid enough to ride unprotected, ride with their entire family, and drive with abandon, they deserve these so-called stupid laws. I follow it and it doesn't bother me. If you can't afford a helmet, don't ride. The price of a helmet should be always part of the cost of owning a bike. Anyone who doesn't undertand this, deserves this 'stupid' law. The ones that do won't really be bothered. Quote Link to comment
Guest lightspeed® Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 here's another good reason why we need to revise traffic laws Three people under the influence of liquor died Sunday after their motorcycle crashed into a van in Barangay Bubukal in Sta. Cruz, Laguna. The accident happened around 2 a.m. when the motorcycle crashed into a Mitsubishi L-300 van. Police said that the motorcycle switched lanes and collided with the van that was coming from the opposite lane. Motorcycle driver Alvin Chan and female passengers Arlene Cjumo and Remedios Ricafrente died on the spot while van driver Albert Miano suffered minor injuries. Friends of the victims admitted that the three were drunk at the time of the accident. Police said reckless imprudence resulting to multiple homicide and damage to property charges are being prepared against Miano. 3 irresponsible teenagers caused the accident, and the innocent Van driver gets the blame. :thumbsdownsmiley: they (the lawmakers) really have to do something about this stupid law. Quote Link to comment
boomouse Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 here's another good reason why we need to revise traffic laws 3 irresponsible teenagers caused the accident, and the innocent Van driver gets the blame. :thumbsdownsmiley: they (the lawmakers) really have to do something about this stupid law. Not only must the law that be changed, the understanding of its construction must also be properly ingrained into the brains of law enforcers and investigators. The van driver will go to trial and he may well be acquitted probably as early as at the inquest level. That's almost a given. But the stupid police investigators will say that they only investigate and do not judge a traffic case especially when deaths are involved. What they do is to play safe, ensure that no blame can be placed on them, and so they still file the criminal information with the prosecutor's office. Even if they know that they will be wasting everyone's time from those involved all the way to the court personnel, this is standard procedure for them. They will say that it is the court that must make a determination of whether the oncoming van driver did actually see the motorcycle and yet FAILED to take the last chance to avoid them. If that can be proven, then it is reckless imprudence. Then the judge will have to take into account certain mitigating events such as the fact the the victims were on an overloaded motorcycle, probably speeding, and the driver was drunk. In another country, the van driver and owner can well sue the family of the victim. It is dead bozos like this that cause government to come up with those so-called 'stupid' regulations. Quote Link to comment
a_ngel Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 question lang po? Is there a Harley-Davidson store in the Philippines? Manila? Where? Cebu? Thanks. Quote Link to comment
mr. john Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Not only must the law that be changed, the understanding of its construction must also be properly ingrained into the brains of law enforcers and investigators. The van driver will go to trial and he may well be acquitted probably as early as at the inquest level. That's almost a given. But the stupid police investigators will say that they only investigate and do not judge a traffic case especially when deaths are involved. What they do is to play safe, ensure that no blame can be placed on them, and so they still file the criminal information with the prosecutor's office. Even if they know that they will be wasting everyone's time from those involved all the way to the court personnel, this is standard procedure for them. They will say that it is the court that must make a determination of whether the oncoming van driver did actually see the motorcycle and yet FAILED to take the last chance to avoid them. If that can be proven, then it is reckless imprudence. Then the judge will have to take into account certain mitigating events such as the fact the the victims were on an overloaded motorcycle, probably speeding, and the driver was drunk. In another country, the van driver and owner can well sue the family of the victim. It is dead bozos like this that cause government to come up with those so-called 'stupid' regulations. bulok talaga pilipinas.. bakit ganun?pag may accident involving a car/motorcycle and pedestrians.. laging may fault ang drivers? hindi man lang nila naicip na hindi sa lahat ng pagkakataon pwedeng umiwas ang drivers sa accident.. kala nila ang dali dali mag preno.. db? lalo na pag nagmomotor, ang hirap prumeno ng biglaan..db? parang tayong mga drivers ang lageng nadidiin kht malinaw na fault ng pedestrians.pero tayo ang lumalabas na masama..parang wala tayong protection kapag nakasagasa tayo ng mga pedestrian.. its so UNFAIR!!! bulok na nga system, bulok pa din ung mga taong nagpapatakbo. ano ba to..kaya kung papapiliin ako, ayaw ko na maging pinoy..kaya, hindi nakakapagtakang ginagawa tayong katatawanan ng ibang bansa. lage tayong minamaliit. tapos isa pang nakaka inis, ung mga pedicabs na nasa main roads.. dapat higpitan nila, kasi may batas na bawal un sa mga main roads. para di ot, ok ba ung mga nagrerepair ng motor sa may dela rosa? di ko lang tanda st name, pero kaparallel siya ng dela rosa.. eurie ata...tnx Quote Link to comment
JHP Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 question lang po? Is there a Harley-Davidson store in the Philippines? Manila? Where? Cebu? Thanks. There are no HD dealers in the Philippines. There is a shop in Malugay near South Superhighway among the car shops called Rad Kustom that has a mechanic who was HD-certified. He worked in an HD dealer in the U.S. They also have previously owned HDs for sale. The closest HD dealer is in Hong Kong, their prices tend to be steep. Hope you find this helpful. Quote Link to comment
JHP Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 question lang po? Is there a Harley-Davidson store in the Philippines? Manila? Where? Cebu? Thanks. Oh, you're a girl! May i know what HD stuff you're interested in? Quote Link to comment
Guest lightspeed® Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 question lang po? Is there a Harley-Davidson store in the Philippines? Manila? Where? Cebu? Thanks. hey there! long time no post. kamusta ka na "M" anyway, i know a few who are selling harley's here in the philippines. kung brand new naman, medyo mahirap yan. if ever meron, sigurado mahal. well, hindi naman ganon kamahal, knowing ang price range ng harley, eh expected na yun. Quote Link to comment
Guest Leviticus Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 hehe.. i had a few extra hours to k*ll the other day so bisita ako ng showroom ng motor. nakita ko eto: ang cute! Yamaha Mio Fino. mamaya maghahanap ako ng specs nya. work muna Quote Link to comment
RushHour Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Hi Guys! Are there a lot of bikers here in MTC? My ride is a kwak zxr400 and i live in Alabang. Was thinking maybe if there are riders in the area so we can meet up. regularly ...maybe in places such as starbucks along Madrigal? or Petron along commerce? Or Westgate? And maybe some of us can bring some MTC female backriders? hehe Or maybe set up a ridesometime? Or organize an event such as MTC Bikers and Rider Babes. What you think guys? Hope to hear from you guys......soon! Safe Ride...Safe sex. Wear both helmets! Quote Link to comment
Guest lightspeed® Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Hi Guys! Are there a lot of bikers here in MTC? My ride is a kwak zxr400 and i live in Alabang. Was thinking maybe if there are riders in the area so we can meet up. regularly ...maybe in places such as starbucks along Madrigal? or Petron along commerce? Or Westgate? And maybe some of us can bring some MTC female backriders? hehe Or maybe set up a ridesometime? Or organize an event such as MTC Bikers and Rider Babes. What you think guys? Hope to hear from you guys......soon! Safe Ride...Safe sex. Wear both helmets! dude, pm me your mobile no. text kita pag meron ride. kanina nagbyahe kami ng tagaytay then nasugbu then back via calaca. that's a good 250kms. i'm also from the south btw. my ride is a CB400 paranaque - carmona - tagaytay - nasugbu - lian - calaca - balayan - lemery - tagaytay - carmona - paranaque (via SLEX) Quote Link to comment
guyh48 Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 To restore/maintain sanity on our roads, enforcement is only one component and it cannot be the only component. You need the three 'E's working together:Enforcement - Authorities must be on the ballEducation - Road users must understand and know the law and have enough common sense to follow it with or without enforcementEngineering - Facilities must not make it difficult to be law abiding and must not make it easy to be a law breaker (ex.: Sensibly located pedestrian overpasses; constantly repaired median fences--that are cut by stupid, jaywalking pedestrians, to prevent jaywalking; proper commuter terminals for jeepneys and buses)I will not think the helmet law is stupid until I see fewer motorcycle riders who are less so. For as long as there are people stupid enough to ride unprotected, ride with their entire family, and drive with abandon, they deserve these so-called stupid laws. I follow it and it doesn't bother me. If you can't afford a helmet, don't ride. The price of a helmet should be always part of the cost of owning a bike. Anyone who doesn't undertand this, deserves this 'stupid' law. The ones that do won't really be bothered. i agree with boomouse Quote Link to comment
guyh48 Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 bulok talaga pilipinas.. bakit ganun?pag may accident involving a car/motorcycle and pedestrians.. laging may fault ang drivers? hindi man lang nila naicip na hindi sa lahat ng pagkakataon pwedeng umiwas ang drivers sa accident.. kala nila ang dali dali mag preno.. db? lalo na pag nagmomotor, ang hirap prumeno ng biglaan..db? parang tayong mga drivers ang lageng nadidiin kht malinaw na fault ng pedestrians.pero tayo ang lumalabas na masama..parang wala tayong protection kapag nakasagasa tayo ng mga pedestrian.. its so UNFAIR!!! bulok na nga system, bulok pa din ung mga taong nagpapatakbo. ano ba to..kaya kung papapiliin ako, ayaw ko na maging pinoy..kaya, hindi nakakapagtakang ginagawa tayong katatawanan ng ibang bansa. lage tayong minamaliit. tapos isa pang nakaka inis, ung mga pedicabs na nasa main roads.. dapat higpitan nila, kasi may batas na bawal un sa mga main roads. para di ot, ok ba ung mga nagrerepair ng motor sa may dela rosa? di ko lang tanda st name, pero kaparallel siya ng dela rosa.. eurie ata...tnx bulok talaga pilipinas.. = medyopag may accident involving a car/motorcycle and pedestrians.. = DRIVERS LIKE US must think fasthindi man lang nila naicip na hindi sa lahat ng pagkakataon pwedeng umiwas ang drivers sa accident.. = DRIVE SAFELY and DRIVERS LIKE US must think fastkala nila ang dali dali mag preno..lalo na pag nagmomotor, ang hirap prumeno ng biglaan..db? = techniques and special skills can doparang tayong mga drivers ang lageng nadidiin kht malinaw na fault ng pedestrians.pero tayo ang lumalabas na masama..parang wala tayong protection kapag nakasagasa tayo ng mga pedestrian.. = all vehicles are made to be running fast than human can do. DRIVE SAFELY and DRIVERS LIKE US must think fast techniques and special skills can do.kaya kung papapiliin ako, ayaw ko na maging pinoy..kaya, hindi nakakapagtakang ginagawa tayong katatawanan ng ibang bansa. lage tayong minamaliit. = LOOK WHO'S TALKING :hypocritesmiley: they were pointing a gun at me while typing this one :mtc: Quote Link to comment
RushHour Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 (edited) dude, pm me your mobile no. text kita pag meron ride. kanina nagbyahe kami ng tagaytay then nasugbu then back via calaca. that's a good 250kms. i'm also from the south btw. my ride is a CB400 paranaque - carmona - tagaytay - nasugbu - lian - calaca - balayan - lemery - tagaytay - carmona - paranaque (via SLEX) Thats a perfect ride for me...as I am not an iron butt rider. I enjoy south rides. Cge, Id appreciate it ...so I get a chance to meet more riders....and backriders haha....0917XXXXXXX. Hindi lang ako pwede pag Sunday....my kids will k*ll me... my ride. zxr400 ninjahope to hear from you. soon Edited October 17, 2008 by IQ Zero No posting of numbers please Quote Link to comment
boomouse Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 Are there any Harley riders in MTC? I test drove a Harley V-Rod today! I think I'm in love again. Quote Link to comment
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