Overrated Nba/pba Players

[Cap™]

You are making it seem as if Boston was way better than Chicago before the coming of their respective superstars when the difference in their records was only two wins. They were pretty much the same mediocre teams.

 

I wasn't born yet so I don't know what to think of this but I think Bird's coming in Beantown signified a return to the glory years unlike MJ's in the Windy City wherein he created that winning atmosphere there

[pilipinoopao]

Mark Caguioa and you know it's true...

[spicycurry30]

carmelo anthony sa nba

mark caguioa sa pba

[josephr]

Kobe Bryant. All-time league leader in SHOTS MISSED.

[Guiness]

I guess I am not the only one who thinks that MJ is not the greatest of all time. There are quite a number of former players who think that MJ is not the greatest of all time.

 

Are you referring to Kareem or even Dr. J? Each player in their own mind has their personal top 5 player. I think its a "generational" thing. Kareem thinks its Oscar Robertson. Most people who grew up in that era thinks its Oscar. Even my Dad says Oscar Robertson. From the people who are 20-30 years older than me, i asked them, and they mostly answered The Big O. Clearly there was something about the The Big O that caught their eye. Not too many answered Bill Russell. Maybe only one. Some answered Kareem, Jerry West, Wilt. But Oscar was the majority vote. Dr. J said his favorite players were Oscar and Elgin Baylor.

 

So its a generational thing. You probably grew up in the 80's era that's why you prefer Bird as your greatest.

 

I already stated my case as to why i think MJ is the greatest. I saw the guy play a game live. I'll never forget it. Mar 8 1998. Madison Square Garden. Regular season game against the Knicks. MJ gave them the business with 42 points. On the way to a blowout victory.

 

The millenial generation thinks its Kobe. After that its Lebron, now the much younger kids think its Curry.

[Guiness]

I just saw this interesting fact. MJ never made it past the second round of the playoffs without Pippen while Pippen made it all the way to the conference finals two times without MJ.

 

Well the question is, did he win a championship? You're nit picking also. When Jordan left, the Bulls had just won a championship. Their core was intact. Even without Jordan and the triangle system working in place. They were a good team. Pippen came into his own that year and became an all-star. But was it enough to propel them to the championship round? They lost to a Knicks team they regularly beat the previous years before. THe other conference finals you mentioned is with the Blazers. He was a key piece on that stacked team with Sheed, Sabonis, Steve Smith and Damon Stoudemire. Not to mention they had Detlef, Bonzi, Brian Grant. Its no surprise that team was gonna make the conference finals and were even the favorites against the Lakers. Pippen was past his prime with the Blazers.

The Blazers got robbed by refs in game 7 with some crucial non-calls.

 

 

You have your pick of who the best player to ever play the game is, and it will be an endless debate. You have your pick, i have mine.

Here is a quote by your Larry Bird on MJ.

"I didn't think anyone was capable of doing what Michael has done to us," marveled Celtics ace Larry Bird. "He is the most exciting, awesome player in the game today. I think it's just God disguised as Michael Jordan."

--Boston's Larry Bird, on Michael Jordan after he scored 63 points against the Celtics in Game 2 of the 1986 Eastern Conferece First Round

 

 

Here's a quote by Magic:

 

“Once Michael gets up there he says, ‘Well, maybe I’ll just hang up here in the air for a while, just sit back.’ Then all of a sudden, he says, ‘Well, maybe I’ll 360. No I changed my mind. I’ll go up on the other side.’ He’s just incredible.”

--Magic Johnson, referring to the aerial artistry performed by Michael Jordan

 

 

If Larry Legend attributes MJ to God, i have nothing else to say about that. Nuff said.

[Guiness]

This a nice commercial featuring a cameo from Larry Bird

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrHdIO3l1Ck

 

 

 

 

COME ON LARRY I KNOW YOU WANNA SING. LOL

Edited November 28, 2015 by hahnz

[Boss James]

Para sakin si Carmelo Anthony. Puro lang kase pa-cute lang alam sa court. Injured prone player. Got a MAX contract pero hindi nya napapatunayan na worth it ang pag-invest sakanya ng Knicks.

[jjbluenetime23]

Kung ikaw din naman si melo mahirap mag perform kung ang supporting cast mo is di all star caliber. He is still a beast stats wise but your talents can only take you so far in the league. Atleast now he has a bright future with an emerging star in porzingis, a reb and lost post man in rolo, a 3pt specialist in afflalo, and a reliable pass first pg in calderon. Sanay na mag perform si melo kahit nung nasa nuggets pa sya he had a better cast then.

[josephr]

Kobe hands down the most overrated player of all time. Not saying bulok sya, but he's wayyy overrated.

I know a lot will agree on this.

[Guiness]

Wilt Chamberlain, John Salley, George Gervin, Julius Erving, Bill Cartwright among others. What's funny here is three of the people I mentioned were at one time Jordan teammates. I grew up watching Larry from his rookie year up until he retired. He was my very first and only childhood idol. MJ was hyped up by David Stern as the best ever. I already stated my case why MJ is not the best ever. By the way, didn't you just say that you weren't sure if Jordan is the best ever? Then now, you say that MJ is the greatest to ever play the game. Which is which?

 

Bill cartwright is just mad at MJ. Because they had some sort of spat during his time with the team. He wasn't playing to standards. He was being a hater. George Gervin was one of the players who tried to freeze him out during the all star game in MJ's rookie season. He, along with several other players i'm not even gonna mention that are in the hall of fame and nba top 50, felt being shown up by MJ being a rookie sensation and they felt it was necessary to try to sabotage him. Again, another hater. Salley is just a kiss.ass. He was all up on the Bulls when they were beating them with the Pistons. But he didn't say anything, when they were on the same team together. He was out there whooping it up with MJ and celebrating when they were dominating teams during their championship run. The others i can say are "generational" picks. I can probably agree with you that the NBA use MJ as a catalyst and a face of the NBA during the time it wanted to become a global phenomenon.

 

I said i wasn't sure if he was the "greatest to play of all time" because that is debatable. There are a plethora of players i haven't seen play during their time so i can't really know. but i go with what i see and to me i think he is the greatest to play at his position.

[Guiness]

I am not nit-picking. I am stating interesting facts. I believe Pippen was a starter on that Blazer team. He was past his prime but he still could play at a high level.

Sure, MJ lit the Cs for 63 points. However, it was a lost cause. Wasted effort by MJ. Magic Johnson once said "I fear no one but Larry Bird." and "There will never ever be another Larry Bird."

 

High Level? Nope. Looking at his stats. He was averaging 12 pts on 45% shooting. He was supposedly one of the best on ball wing defender with the bulls. But because he was past his prime, he got slow and was having back problems. I also saw him play with the Blazers, he was so slow he can't even guard Kobe in the conference final. He was a shell of himself. That's not high level at all.

 

You can downplay MJ's skill and play but he still lit up your Celtics the supposedly best Celtics team of the 80's. That 85-86 team is regarded as the best Celtics team of Bird's during the 80's Def Rtg: 102.6 (1st of 23). They were ranked 1st in defense in the NBA. and yet MJ dropped 63 on them. In a playoff game, not regular season. Playoffs.

 

I saw the whole game on Youtube. DJ couldn't guard him that's why they sent either Bird or Mchale to double and he still scored. You can't blame him because he had no help. Bird had all the weapons on his team with Mchale, Parish, and DJ. They even had Bill Walton off the bench. Coincidentally i checked the celtics roster and noticed a player that was once a PBA import. David Thirdkill. He was on that team. But back to MJ, if there were 4 other MJ's playing with the same type of talent and energy that MJ was playing, they would've beaten the Celtics. But no, he was playing scrubs. Don't tell me that MJ's teammates were not scrubs, because they were.

 

 

This is all the quote i need. Getting this type of high praise, compliment and respect from one of the greats to ever play says it all. Even going so far as to calling him a God. Straight from your favorite player. He even said to us. Which means, it was one player who took it to a team.

"I didn't think anyone was capable of doing what Michael has done to us," marveled Celtics ace Larry Bird. "He is the most exciting, awesome player in the game today. I think it's just God disguised as Michael Jordan."

Edited November 29, 2015 by hahnz

[nolz]

japet aguilar puro miss ang tira, matangkad lang sya

[bughaw1]

japet aguilar puro miss ang tira, matangkad lang sya

A 6'9 guy that can be defended by a 6"2 guy.....with ease.

[thelibrarian]

Eddy would've liked your comment if you didn't bash Dallas lol hahaha

Haha i didn't bash dallas. In fact gusto ko sila, wala lang talagang PG nung start to make DJ look good, but now with the rejuvinated Williams, it couldve worked. We wouldnt know tho