Sakristan_Mayor Posted January 24, 2007 Author Share Posted January 24, 2007 Race cars tend to be RWD or MR since with FWD there is actually a limit on how much power you can put into the front wheels before the car becomes unwieldy because of too much understeer. That's why you don't see manufacturers put out high-power FWD cars. Take this Vauxhall Vectra VXR for example..255HP, 160mph, FWD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVfF_dGyimU hey that's a good example man! I always liked Jeremy Clarkson when he describes a car that he doesn't like. The new M5 got lambasted also but there is a redeeming value, once in "M" mode, the car accelerates and handles as good as a Ferrari F430. Both the M5 and the F430 are RWDs. Quote Link to comment
cumpadre Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Center of gravity and placement of the engine plays a great role too in terms of handling. Thats why there are lots of layout like FR,MR,FF, RR etc. Proper Suspension tuning = better handlling. But of course, comfyness will suffer. Quote Link to comment
Sakristan_Mayor Posted January 30, 2007 Author Share Posted January 30, 2007 My FWD hall of fame choice - The Austin 7, for ushering in an era of nimble, highly maneuverable, small cars with small gutsy engines. I personally think it should be known as the Father Of Modern Compacts (and subcompacts). My RWD hall of fame choice - (well this is a tough choice to make) but i'd say it has to be the original M5. With an engine and chassis package unlike anything seen before, it was able to extract all the best virtues of a RWD. The M5 definitely has raised the bar so high for the RWD format. Quote Link to comment
heightdeprived Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 yeah in motorsports, i think its FWD=tendency to oversteer while RWD=tendency to understeer. I think it's the otherway around, say for example, in an FF car (Front Engine [/b]F[/b]ront Drive) when the gas pedal is floored amid a curve, an understeer can be induced while to induce oversteer, you can pull of the e-brake, while with FR, flooring the gas pedal amid a curve will induce oversteer but with a weak front tire traction it can also end-up to understeering, Quote Link to comment
heightdeprived Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 mayroon kaya niticeable nuances between the 2? you'll probably notice that on a steep climb, wherein the FF is having a hard time climbing up and keeps the tires on spinning while the FR was able to take on the load, (experienced that in Baguio, we're riding a Honda City and the car in front didn't break a sweat negotiating the hillclimb, it's a Box type model Mitsu Lancer) Quote Link to comment
willow_boy Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 My vote goes to the Front-wheel drive. Car's easier to control over rough terrain, such as heavy snow. Quote Link to comment
posta_code Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 real sports performance cars are RWD Quote Link to comment
Sakristan_Mayor Posted March 9, 2007 Author Share Posted March 9, 2007 real sports performance cars are RWD I think from an engineering pov, rear better for supercars, most kasi are rwd with a few fwd like the audis and the carrera 4 Quote Link to comment
monsty Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 fwd cars will be more efficient because power is transfered over a very short distance. engine to front wheels. rwd cars lose power cause driving force has to pas thru several mechanisms to get to the rear wheels. In 4wd's engine power passes thru two sets of gears to get to the tires. more areas for friction etc. Quote Link to comment
boomouse Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 mayroon kaya niticeable nuances between the 2? Oh yes, quite. But only in the cars on the lower end of the price scale. Most fwd cars will tend to understeer (will want to continue going straight even after you have started to turn the wheel) when you power into a turn. I don't like the idea of having only two tires do all the work, i.e., propel the car while steering it, or stop a car while steering it. Your tires have a finite amount of friction/traction if you brake, you give up some traction for steering, if you accelerate the same thing happens. This is why you have torque steer in the cheaper fwd cars. If you gas it while on a curve, you will feel the wheel wanting to straighten up. Unfotunately there are no rwd cheap cars anymore. The ones I could remember to be notable were the Mark I, Ford Escort Mexico with the 1.6 liter cast iron Kent engine fitted wwith twi Weber 40 DCOEs and the 1976 Mitsu Lancer they like to call the "L" type. RWDs tend to over steer under power in a corner. That is, the rear wheel can break traction and swing into the direction you are going and if you know what you are doing, you can actually steer the car with the accelerator pedal. With all the electronic driver aids in the more upmarket cars, all of these disappear and create a car that is stupid-proof almost. I still prefer all wheel drive. Now that is driving. Dependng on how you drive you can go from understeer to full oversteer and have a lot of fun in between. Quote Link to comment
Sakristan_Mayor Posted March 13, 2007 Author Share Posted March 13, 2007 May difference pala? Bakit hindi ko yata nararamdaman? Guys, care to explain further in layman's term? And is it true na mas magastos sa gasolina pag naka-4WD ka? Car ko kse lagi lang naka-set sa 2WD kse sabi nga mas magastos daw pag nilagay ko sa 4WD? Ano muna car mo? some cars kasi di ni rerecommend na naka 4wd all the time. yun yung mga part time 4 wheel drive with a standard differential such as old vitaras and pajeros. 4wd drive lang kung slippery or needs more traction such as sand, rocks, snow( na wala naman dito). kung equipped naman with lsd or limited slip differential puwede 4wd even on smooth hard surfaces like asphalt or concrete tarmac, mas may wear nga lang sa tires and of course mas malakas sa fuel. Quote Link to comment
GT_Albert Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 RWD is the best when it come with power,traction and Maneuverability. that is why almost or all of BMW engine layout are all RWD, BMW calls FWD as work of Satan according to a recent TG episode. Quote Link to comment
Sakristan_Mayor Posted March 15, 2007 Author Share Posted March 15, 2007 RWD is the best when it come with power,traction and Maneuverability. that is why almost or all of BMW engine layout are all RWD, BMW calls FWD as work of Satan according to a recent TG episode. part time.... hmmm meaning its a rwd car with an option to go 4wd usually with 4wd low for severe driving conditions (putik, bato, etc) and 4wd high for slippery surfaces. 4wd can be engaged either using a second shifter or a button in m odern cars. in general, if your car is a part time 4wd, keep it in two wheel drive unless mag o offroad ka. Happy driving, enjoy your new SUV Quote Link to comment
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