Kuryente !

[robbietan]

kuryente mysteries explained....

 

energy saving devices......

 

tips on buying appliances......

 

for FREE!

[masi]

Great thread!

 

With the high cost of electricity, I am more deliberate in using electric home appliance and electric devices. Now can someone tell me if those plug-in power saving devices advertised on TV really work? I mean, really help you cut down on the consumption of electric power? What is the principle behind it?

 

Thanks!

[robbietan]

good day bos masi!

 

can you be specific on that TV ad?

 

what I can remember is the one being shown in ch. 13/9. the white one that looks like a mouse that you plug in a wall socket. bad news sir. it doesnt save you that much. the thing has a capacitor inside that explains how it can provide short bursts of power during a power interruption. if you plug it in before your ref/washing machine - it would save a little power. although the price of the thingie would not justify the savings you get from it. if you plug it like what the commercial does, (which was anywhere) you introduce things in your home that you don't want - overvoltage, for one. harmonics is another.

 

the only energy savings devices are certified by our very own Dept. of Energy. if someone is selling you one of those thingies, call the DOE to verify if it was approved by the DOE. better yet, provide them a sample so that they can test it. most of these thingies I've encountered so far put all sorts of company logos on their boxes. then a very fine print saying that the product was DEMONSTRATED to these companies, they don't say that these companies actually USE them. ingat lang, Sir.

[masi]

good day bos masi!

 

can you be specific on that TV ad?

 

what I can remember is the one being shown in ch. 13/9. the white one that looks like a mouse that you plug in a wall socket. bad news sir. it doesnt save you that much. the thing has a capacitor inside that explains how it can provide short bursts of power during a power interruption. if you plug it in before your ref/washing machine - it would save a little power. although the price of the thingie would not justify the savings you get from it. if you plug it like what the commercial does, (which was anywhere) you introduce things in your home that you don't want - overvoltage, for one. harmonics is another.

 

the only energy savings devices are certified by our very own Dept. of Energy. if someone is selling you one of those thingies, call the DOE to verify if it was approved by the DOE. better yet, provide them a sample so that they can test it. most of these thingies I've encountered so far put all sorts of company logos on their boxes. then a very fine print saying that the product was DEMONSTRATED to these companies, they don't say that these companies actually USE them. ingat lang, Sir.

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thanks for the info, robbie!!!

 

you are correct, those devices look like a mouse that you plug into a convenience outlet. The ads were Taiwanese dubbed in English but I think lately RJTV has been airring a local version. I will check tonight.

 

So, it's one of those "too good to be true ads" pala!!! And those devices are not cheap!!!! Thanks for the tip!

 

Ingat ka rin, bro --- mahirap na "kuryente" ang usapan!!!

[robbietan]

yep, those taiwanese commercials even use a clamp ammeter to show 'power consumption'. and they do post those company logos where they DEMONSTRATED their products. pero ayaw magpadala sa amin ng sample nila, baka mabuking.... erferferf

[robbietan]

as a public service, here is a miniseries on the 'unbundled' charges for your MERALCO bill

 

residential:

 

generation charge - cost of electricity from NAPOCOR (or IPPs) that MERALCO bought

 

transmission charge - cost of using TRANSCO's wires to transmit electricity from the power plants to your home

 

system loss charge - the cost of technical and non-technical losses that occured during the transmission of electricity from the power plant to your home

 

distribution charge - MERALCO's service charge

[hoodsy2004]

bro is it true na yun mga nananakaw na kuryente eh binabayaran pa rin ng mga may metro???

[robbietan]

sir, that comes under the 'non-technical losses' of your system loss charge in your MERALCO bill.

non-technical losses include pilferage, kaya all acts of pilferage will be added ultimately to that bill heading. kaya pag may alam kayo na illegal connections, kindly call 16211 (MERALCO) and report it. kahit papaano, makakababa sa binabayaran nating lahat yan.

[bubuy]

what is this thread about ba.. the "power-saving" devices or your meralco bills???

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So, lahat ng nakaw sa kuryente ay binabayaran natin?

[xycho_g]

since kuryente thread ito...can somebody explain what does each of the charges of our meralco bill pertain to? and why is it included...tnx...

[robbietan]

mga bosing,

 

this thread is all about electricity - bills, power saving devices, etc. feel free to ask/share anything that is powered by electricity

 

 

part 2 of miniseries: residential bill

 

metering charge - This includes the cost of reading, and operating and maintaining power metering facilities.

 

Lifeline Discount

The EPIRA provides that residential customers consuming less than 100 kWh in a given month will enjoy a Lifeline Discount on generation, transmission, distribution, supply, metering and system loss charges at these percentages:

 

Using 50 kWh and below will get 50% discount

Using 71 to 100 kWh will get a 20% discount

 

Interclass Subsidy

residential customers enjoy a subsidy of P0.7130 per kWh funded by a charge paid by commercial and industrial users of electricity

 

beware! the interclass subsidy will be phased out starting next year. tho liliit ang charges sa commercial and industrial users, residential users will bear the increase in rates

 

CERA - Currency Exchange Rate Adjustment

This covers adjustments for fluctuations in the Philippine Peso-U.S. Dollar exchange rate

[robbietan]

yes sir, ultimately, LAHAT ng nakaw na kuryente will be paid for by those people regularly paying their bills. how? EPIRA gives a 9.5% ceiling on how much the govt will reimburse MERALCO for losses. saan pa ba kukunin ng gobyerno ang ipam-babayad nila sa MERALCO kundi sa taxes natin? so, para na rin sa atin ang pagsumbong ng mga hindi nagbabayad (i.e. -gumagamit ng jumper) para bumaba ang binabayaran natin

[robbietan]

I would also like to warn everyone about MERALCO people wanting to get inside your homes to 'check' out your appliances, wirings, etc. DO NOT, DO NOT, DO NOT let these people in! these people are fakes!

 

I have received e-mails of such M.O.

 

MERALCO's service STOPS at your meter. If they want to enter your house, they just have to get a warrant like everyone else. Call their hotline 16211 to verify if they have such work orders in your area. If these people are for real, they will happily wait for you to be satisfied with their identities before starting their work.

[hoodsy2004]

sir, that comes under the 'non-technical losses' of your system loss charge in your MERALCO bill.

non-technical losses include pilferage, kaya all acts of pilferage will be added ultimately to that bill heading. kaya pag may alam kayo na illegal connections, kindly call 16211 (MERALCO) and report it. kahit papaano, makakababa sa binabayaran nating lahat yan.

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salamat bro! very usefull thread indeed!