robbietan Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 kuryente mysteries explained.... energy saving devices...... tips on buying appliances...... for FREE! Quote Link to comment
masi Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 Great thread! With the high cost of electricity, I am more deliberate in using electric home appliance and electric devices. Now can someone tell me if those plug-in power saving devices advertised on TV really work? I mean, really help you cut down on the consumption of electric power? What is the principle behind it? Thanks! Quote Link to comment
robbietan Posted November 15, 2005 Author Share Posted November 15, 2005 good day bos masi! can you be specific on that TV ad? what I can remember is the one being shown in ch. 13/9. the white one that looks like a mouse that you plug in a wall socket. bad news sir. it doesnt save you that much. the thing has a capacitor inside that explains how it can provide short bursts of power during a power interruption. if you plug it in before your ref/washing machine - it would save a little power. although the price of the thingie would not justify the savings you get from it. if you plug it like what the commercial does, (which was anywhere) you introduce things in your home that you don't want - overvoltage, for one. harmonics is another. the only energy savings devices are certified by our very own Dept. of Energy. if someone is selling you one of those thingies, call the DOE to verify if it was approved by the DOE. better yet, provide them a sample so that they can test it. most of these thingies I've encountered so far put all sorts of company logos on their boxes. then a very fine print saying that the product was DEMONSTRATED to these companies, they don't say that these companies actually USE them. ingat lang, Sir. Quote Link to comment
masi Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 good day bos masi! can you be specific on that TV ad? what I can remember is the one being shown in ch. 13/9. the white one that looks like a mouse that you plug in a wall socket. bad news sir. it doesnt save you that much. the thing has a capacitor inside that explains how it can provide short bursts of power during a power interruption. if you plug it in before your ref/washing machine - it would save a little power. although the price of the thingie would not justify the savings you get from it. if you plug it like what the commercial does, (which was anywhere) you introduce things in your home that you don't want - overvoltage, for one. harmonics is another. the only energy savings devices are certified by our very own Dept. of Energy. if someone is selling you one of those thingies, call the DOE to verify if it was approved by the DOE. better yet, provide them a sample so that they can test it. most of these thingies I've encountered so far put all sorts of company logos on their boxes. then a very fine print saying that the product was DEMONSTRATED to these companies, they don't say that these companies actually USE them. ingat lang, Sir.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> thanks for the info, robbie!!! you are correct, those devices look like a mouse that you plug into a convenience outlet. The ads were Taiwanese dubbed in English but I think lately RJTV has been airring a local version. I will check tonight. So, it's one of those "too good to be true ads" pala!!! And those devices are not cheap!!!! Thanks for the tip! Ingat ka rin, bro --- mahirap na "kuryente" ang usapan!!! Quote Link to comment
robbietan Posted November 15, 2005 Author Share Posted November 15, 2005 yep, those taiwanese commercials even use a clamp ammeter to show 'power consumption'. and they do post those company logos where they DEMONSTRATED their products. pero ayaw magpadala sa amin ng sample nila, baka mabuking.... erferferf Quote Link to comment
robbietan Posted December 3, 2005 Author Share Posted December 3, 2005 as a public service, here is a miniseries on the 'unbundled' charges for your MERALCO bill residential: generation charge - cost of electricity from NAPOCOR (or IPPs) that MERALCO bought transmission charge - cost of using TRANSCO's wires to transmit electricity from the power plants to your home system loss charge - the cost of technical and non-technical losses that occured during the transmission of electricity from the power plant to your home distribution charge - MERALCO's service charge Quote Link to comment
hoodsy2004 Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 bro is it true na yun mga nananakaw na kuryente eh binabayaran pa rin ng mga may metro??? Quote Link to comment
robbietan Posted December 3, 2005 Author Share Posted December 3, 2005 sir, that comes under the 'non-technical losses' of your system loss charge in your MERALCO bill.non-technical losses include pilferage, kaya all acts of pilferage will be added ultimately to that bill heading. kaya pag may alam kayo na illegal connections, kindly call 16211 (MERALCO) and report it. kahit papaano, makakababa sa binabayaran nating lahat yan. Quote Link to comment
bubuy Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 what is this thread about ba.. the "power-saving" devices or your meralco bills??? Quote Link to comment
PageDown Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 So, lahat ng nakaw sa kuryente ay binabayaran natin? Quote Link to comment
xycho_g Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 since kuryente thread ito...can somebody explain what does each of the charges of our meralco bill pertain to? and why is it included...tnx... Quote Link to comment
robbietan Posted December 5, 2005 Author Share Posted December 5, 2005 mga bosing, this thread is all about electricity - bills, power saving devices, etc. feel free to ask/share anything that is powered by electricity part 2 of miniseries: residential bill metering charge - This includes the cost of reading, and operating and maintaining power metering facilities. Lifeline DiscountThe EPIRA provides that residential customers consuming less than 100 kWh in a given month will enjoy a Lifeline Discount on generation, transmission, distribution, supply, metering and system loss charges at these percentages: Using 50 kWh and below will get 50% discount Using 71 to 100 kWh will get a 20% discount Interclass Subsidy residential customers enjoy a subsidy of P0.7130 per kWh funded by a charge paid by commercial and industrial users of electricity beware! the interclass subsidy will be phased out starting next year. tho liliit ang charges sa commercial and industrial users, residential users will bear the increase in rates CERA - Currency Exchange Rate Adjustment This covers adjustments for fluctuations in the Philippine Peso-U.S. Dollar exchange rate Quote Link to comment
robbietan Posted December 5, 2005 Author Share Posted December 5, 2005 yes sir, ultimately, LAHAT ng nakaw na kuryente will be paid for by those people regularly paying their bills. how? EPIRA gives a 9.5% ceiling on how much the govt will reimburse MERALCO for losses. saan pa ba kukunin ng gobyerno ang ipam-babayad nila sa MERALCO kundi sa taxes natin? so, para na rin sa atin ang pagsumbong ng mga hindi nagbabayad (i.e. -gumagamit ng jumper) para bumaba ang binabayaran natin Quote Link to comment
robbietan Posted December 5, 2005 Author Share Posted December 5, 2005 I would also like to warn everyone about MERALCO people wanting to get inside your homes to 'check' out your appliances, wirings, etc. DO NOT, DO NOT, DO NOT let these people in! these people are fakes! I have received e-mails of such M.O. MERALCO's service STOPS at your meter. If they want to enter your house, they just have to get a warrant like everyone else. Call their hotline 16211 to verify if they have such work orders in your area. If these people are for real, they will happily wait for you to be satisfied with their identities before starting their work. Quote Link to comment
hoodsy2004 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 sir, that comes under the 'non-technical losses' of your system loss charge in your MERALCO bill.non-technical losses include pilferage, kaya all acts of pilferage will be added ultimately to that bill heading. kaya pag may alam kayo na illegal connections, kindly call 16211 (MERALCO) and report it. kahit papaano, makakababa sa binabayaran nating lahat yan.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> salamat bro! very usefull thread indeed! Quote Link to comment
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