The Legal Side of Real Estate

[keenpee]

Kapag meron title ung lote, pued ba gamitin ng illegal possessor ung ADVERSE POSSESSION? thnx

[crazypinoy]

question lang mga master, ng post ako ng reservation for house and lot although sinabihan naman ako na for 2026 pa move in, ngayun ng tataka ako after ko maka bayad ng 3 mons DP wala sila ma isyu na OR puro AR lang.

pag ba ganun mga lods pwede ko i refund mga binayad ko?sabi kasi nung ibang ng reserved wala daw license to sell ang developer + ang hirap kausapin ng developer iba iba dahilan nila bakit hindi maka isyu ng OR

[Mar16]

On 6/21/2023 at 4:23 PM, crazypinoy said:

question lang mga master, ng post ako ng reservation for house and lot although sinabihan naman ako na for 2026 pa move in, ngayun ng tataka ako after ko maka bayad ng 3 mons DP wala sila ma isyu na OR puro AR lang.

pag ba ganun mga lods pwede ko i refund mga binayad ko?sabi kasi nung ibang ng reserved wala daw license to sell ang developer + ang hirap kausapin ng developer iba iba dahilan nila bakit hindi maka isyu ng OR

Una, concerning sa kung pwede ka magpa refund, check mo yung contract nyo kung ano ang terms and conditions. Pero kung wala sila license to sell,  pwedeng pwede kayo humingi ng refund. No need to look into your contract, kasi yung right to refund will be based on the absence of the license to sell.

Pangalawa, kung may license to sell sila pero walang OR, it's either wala lang po sila OR pa or hindi sila registered sa BIR or pwede ding ayaw lang nila talaga mag-issue ng OR, which is really makes it very doubtful. Kaya pag nagbayad po kayo at wala pa ring OR, pwede nyo din sila i-video para may proof kayo na nagbayad nga kayo at kung ano ang binabayaran nyo.

Pangatlo, yung kawalan po nuila ng license to sell will not result to the invalidity of the sale. So ibig sabihin, valid pa rin yung kontrata nyo. Pero nasa sa inyo na king itutuloy nyo yung kontrata or hindi. Kasi yun nga, mas may risk lang sa parte nyo. Ang effect po kasi eh baka mas mahirapan na kayo to go after the seller kapag may breach of contract na mangyari. Dahil ang license to sell from hlurb is proof that the developer has a legitimate business and is financially stable. Ang isang epekto pa ng kawalan ng license is mae-expose yung developer/seller to penalties at pwede nga kayo mag-demand na i-cancel yung contract at i-refund nila yung perang binayad nyo.

Pangapat, kung gusto nyo i-verify kung may license to sell yung developer nyo o wala, pwede nyo po gawin yun sa HLURB. Check nyo na lang kung pwede nyo gawin online yun.

[Mar16]

On 6/15/2023 at 2:16 PM, keenpee said:

Kapag meron title ung lote, pued ba gamitin ng illegal possessor ung ADVERSE POSSESSION? thnx

Hindi. Unless meron syang ibang reason to prove his/her ownership.

Kaya kung adverse possession lang meron sya, pwede sya paalisin ng may-ari na nakalagay sa titulo nung lupa.

[keenpee]

22 hours ago, Mar16 said:

Hindi. Unless meron syang ibang reason to prove his/her ownership.

Kaya kung adverse possession lang meron sya, pwede sya paalisin ng may-ari na nakalagay sa titulo nung lupa.

Ty po, kahit 30 years or more sila in possession?

[Mar16]

4 hours ago, keenpee said:

Ty po, kahit 30 years or more sila in possession?

Basta po ba may titulo kayo. Imprescriptible po yung right nyo, kahit na pa 100 years nila hawak yung property. Hindi po mapapawalang bisa yung titulo nyo.

Magandang example po yung mga informal settlers. Kahit na ba 100 years sila sa property, hindi mapapasa kanila yung lote o property na pagma may ari o titulado sa pangalan ng iba 

[keenpee]

On 7/5/2023 at 9:23 PM, Mar16 said:

Basta po ba may titulo kayo. Imprescriptible po yung right nyo, kahit na pa 100 years nila hawak yung property. Hindi po mapapawalang bisa yung titulo nyo.

Magandang example po yung mga informal settlers. Kahit na ba 100 years sila sa property, hindi mapapasa kanila yung lote o property na pagma may ari o titulado sa pangalan ng iba 

ok thank you po. regarding this,  meron kasi now ung case for decision na, which is accion reivindicatoria.

the last court order was feb 28, for memo on both parties, 45 days binigay ng court we submitted ours some time before holy week. but the defendants did not file any. since it has been like more than 90 days na, wala pa decision.

1) usually gano katagal ung decision deadline?

2) is this typical na lumalagpas ng more than 3 months?

3) is it ok for us to make a followup?

4) kapag matagal usually negative ba results? or busy lang ung court?

 

thanks po

[Mar16]

On 8/6/2023 at 4:27 PM, keenpee said:

ok thank you po. regarding this,  meron kasi now ung case for decision na, which is accion reivindicatoria.

the last court order was feb 28, for memo on both parties, 45 days binigay ng court we submitted ours some time before holy week. but the defendants did not file any. since it has been like more than 90 days na, wala pa decision.

1) usually gano katagal ung decision deadline?

2) is this typical na lumalagpas ng more than 3 months?

3) is it ok for us to make a followup?

4) kapag matagal usually negative ba results? or busy lang ung court?

 

thanks po

Check nyo po kung may Motion for Extension yung kalaban nyo. Ask nyo po yung abogado nyo. Usually po eh sinasabi naman ng korte kung for Resolution na yung kaso.

Pwede po lumagpas ng 3 months bago nila ma release yung desisyon. Pero check nyo nga din po kung for decision na yung status. Alam po dapat ng abogado nyo yung status at kung ano nangyayari sa kaso. Obligasyon nya po kayo i-update. Pero pwede din po na kayo mismo ang mag follow up sa korte. 

Yung tagal po ng pagpabas ng decision eh wala po kinalaman kung talo o panalo kayo sa kaso. Nasa lakas po yan ng ebidensya nyo. Yun po ang makakatulong sa inyo sa ano mang kaso kung sakali.

[keenpee]

19 hours ago, Mar16 said:

Check nyo po kung may Motion for Extension yung kalaban nyo. Ask nyo po yung abogado nyo. Usually po eh sinasabi naman ng korte kung for Resolution na yung kaso.

Pwede po lumagpas ng 3 months bago nila ma release yung desisyon. Pero check nyo nga din po kung for decision na yung status. Alam po dapat ng abogado nyo yung status at kung ano nangyayari sa kaso. Obligasyon nya po kayo i-update. Pero pwede din po na kayo mismo ang mag follow up sa korte. 

Yung tagal po ng pagpabas ng decision eh wala po kinalaman kung talo o panalo kayo sa kaso. Nasa lakas po yan ng ebidensya nyo. Yun po ang makakatulong sa inyo sa ano mang kaso kung sakali.

Ok ty po

[keenpee]

On 8/10/2023 at 2:20 PM, Mar16 said:

Check nyo po kung may Motion for Extension yung kalaban nyo. Ask nyo po yung abogado nyo. Usually po eh sinasabi naman ng korte kung for Resolution na yung kaso.

Pwede po lumagpas ng 3 months bago nila ma release yung desisyon. Pero check nyo nga din po kung for decision na yung status. Alam po dapat ng abogado nyo yung status at kung ano nangyayari sa kaso. Obligasyon nya po kayo i-update. Pero pwede din po na kayo mismo ang mag follow up sa korte. 

Yung tagal po ng pagpabas ng decision eh wala po kinalaman kung talo o panalo kayo sa kaso. Nasa lakas po yan ng ebidensya nyo. Yun po ang makakatulong sa inyo sa ano mang kaso kung sakali.

need info lang again about this.

case is tagged as accion reivindicatoria by the judge.

 

the illegal possessors are using adjacent lot's documents which they are legal tenants to occupy and claim they are rightful possessors of our lots. 

we were not able to do physical lot surveys because the illegal settlers are threatening us even with barangay assistance.

our atty based their occupancy via four tax declarations which specifically stated that their improvements are on our lots. 

 

we were not able also to ask permission from court to do so. and the case was submitted for decision

 

my question is will the survey be vital that since we were not able to present it. will our case be dismissed or sapat na that the four tax dec stated it? also the defendants also admitted and claim that they are rightful possessors of our lots.

[Mar16]

On 8/12/2023 at 4:00 PM, keenpee said:

need info lang again about this.

case is tagged as accion reivindicatoria by the judge.

 

the illegal possessors are using adjacent lot's documents which they are legal tenants to occupy and claim they are rightful possessors of our lots. 

we were not able to do physical lot surveys because the illegal settlers are threatening us even with barangay assistance.

our atty based their occupancy via four tax declarations which specifically stated that their improvements are on our lots. 

 

we were not able also to ask permission from court to do so. and the case was submitted for decision

 

my question is will the survey be vital that since we were not able to present it. will our case be dismissed or sapat na that the four tax dec stated it? also the defendants also admitted and claim that they are rightful possessors of our lots.

Sinabi nyo kasi Sir na may Titulo kayo. Hindi po kasi kayo magkaka titulo kung walang survey plan ng lupa na covered nung title. Kaya medyo naguguluhan po ako sa sinasabi nyo na need nyo ulit magpansurvey.

Baka po kasi relocation of boundaries ang gusto nyo sana gawin. So bakit di nyo na lang po balikan yung geodetic engr na gumawa ng survey plan na ginamit sa pagpapatitulo nung lupa. At pwede din po na nagpunta kayo sa LRA sana to inquire about such survey plan. 

yun po kasing tax declaration is not proof of ownership. At lalo naman pong hindi sya sapat na ebidensya to prove the boundaries unless may iba pang susuporta dito.

gaya nga po ng una ko ng nasabi, kahit may claim po sila ng adverse possession, basta yung titulo nasa pangalan nyo, at wala silng titulo, kayo po ang dapat manalo sa kaso. Pero kung nakuha nyo po yung titulo dahil sa fraud o panlilinlang o panloloko o kahit na dahil sa isang pagkakamali, mapapa walng saysay po iyun at matatalo kayo lalo na kapag napatunayan yun ng klaban nyo

[keenpee]

On 8/17/2023 at 10:49 PM, Mar16 said:

Sinabi nyo kasi Sir na may Titulo kayo. Hindi po kasi kayo magkaka titulo kung walang survey plan ng lupa na covered nung title. Kaya medyo naguguluhan po ako sa sinasabi nyo na need nyo ulit magpansurvey.

Baka po kasi relocation of boundaries ang gusto nyo sana gawin. So bakit di nyo na lang po balikan yung geodetic engr na gumawa ng survey plan na ginamit sa pagpapatitulo nung lupa. At pwede din po na nagpunta kayo sa LRA sana to inquire about such survey plan. 

yun po kasing tax declaration is not proof of ownership. At lalo naman pong hindi sya sapat na ebidensya to prove the boundaries unless may iba pang susuporta dito.

gaya nga po ng una ko ng nasabi, kahit may claim po sila ng adverse possession, basta yung titulo nasa pangalan nyo, at wala silng titulo, kayo po ang dapat manalo sa kaso. Pero kung nakuha nyo po yung titulo dahil sa fraud o panlilinlang o panloloko o kahit na dahil sa isang pagkakamali, mapapa walng saysay po iyun at matatalo kayo lalo na kapag napatunayan yun ng klaban nyo

Ty very much po. Ok lang po magfoolow up? After three months na kasi po. Di naman mainis ung court na inaapura sila? Thnx

[Mar16]

On 8/30/2023 at 6:03 PM, keenpee said:

Ty very much po. Ok lang po magfoolow up? After three months na kasi po. Di naman mainis ung court na inaapura sila? Thnx

Ok lang po yun. Karapatan nyo po yun Sir. Pero karaniwang sasabihin sa inyo eh wala pa at hindi naman po kasi nila pwede ilabas kung may draft man na yung decision. Kausapin nyo din po yung abogado nyo. Kasi sya din dapat nagbibigay ng update sa inyo.

[jackingdash]

Hello, I would like to ask for some legal advise if that is okay.

BACKSTORY: My dad and mom are separated. My mom said that they have a legal separation ruling but I still haven't read it. My dad has been living/staying in our family home with another "partner". They now have a kid with the birth certificate simulated to make it appear that they are the biological parents.

My dad said that he will be leaving/giving our family home to his new partner and kid. My siblings and I do not agree with this decision and are leaning to contest it. There are other properties that my dad may have given to his partner and kid already. And that is alright, we just are concerned with the family home that me and my sibling grew up on.

QUESTION: What legal document and action can we take to make sure that the title is not transferred? We had it checked in RD and it is still in the name of my dad. And... does my mom still have ownership of the property as well even if they were legally separated? 

Thank you, I hope you can shed light in our situation.  Thanks!

[anaximander23]

On 9/20/2023 at 1:44 PM, jackingdash said:

Hello, I would like to ask for some legal advise if that is okay.

BACKSTORY: My dad and mom are separated. My mom said that they have a legal separation ruling but I still haven't read it. My dad has been living/staying in our family home with another "partner". They now have a kid with the birth certificate simulated to make it appear that they are the biological parents.

My dad said that he will be leaving/giving our family home to his new partner and kid. My siblings and I do not agree with this decision and are leaning to contest it. There are other properties that my dad may have given to his partner and kid already. And that is alright, we just are concerned with the family home that me and my sibling grew up on.

QUESTION: What legal document and action can we take to make sure that the title is not transferred? We had it checked in RD and it is still in the name of my dad. And... does my mom still have ownership of the property as well even if they were legally separated? 

Thank you, I hope you can shed light in our situation.  Thanks!

Just to give you some information. 
 

1. Legal Separation means that a husband and wife can live separately but are still married to each other. In relation to the new kid of you dad, he/she will be considered as an illegitimate kid and only entitled to half of your share of your legitime as heirs of your dad. 

The properties of your father MAY be transferred to other people if it is by way of a sale. If it’s via donation, it must not affect your share of the “mana”. 
 

2. If there is a decision for Legal Separation then there is a guilty spouse. The guilty spouse will then have no rights over the net profits of the conjugal properties of your Mom and Dad. Better check if there is a decision regarding this as said by your Mom. 
 

3. Better consult a lawyer for any action you can file against the transfer of the properties of your Dad to his new partner and kid.