Cal! Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 hehe... commish, sa lakas ng team mo.. hirap makahanap ng pedeng itrade sayo... hehe!! Quote Link to comment
agentjackbauer Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 hehe... commish, sa lakas ng team mo.. hirap makahanap ng pedeng itrade sayo... hehe!! Maraming weaknesses team ko pare: fg%, ft%, blocks, TOs at A/T. Kahit paano, sana tumaas playing time ni Murphy sa Pacers. Quote Link to comment
hoopburners Posted January 18, 2007 Author Share Posted January 18, 2007 ^ oh my gulay.... on the real nba, i'm not upset nor happy about this trade. it's just weird to have a new team all of a sudden.. un lang masasabi ko... Quote Link to comment
teio Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 si mo pete talaga... <_ Quote Link to comment
teio Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Fantasy Fallout: Harrington, Murphy SwapBy Matt BuserJanuary 17, 2007 It took less than a month for Pacers coach Rick Carlisle to decide that a small lineup, with Al Harrington starting at center, was not going to work out as hoped. Fast forward six weeks, and now the Pacers have apparently decided that Al Harrington as a Pacer, period, was not going to work out. The Pacers and Warriors agreed on an eight-player trade on Wednesday, with Harrington, Stephen Jackson, Sarunas Jasikevicius, and Josh Powell headed to Golden State in exchange for Troy Murphy, Mike Dunleavy, Ike Diogu, and Keith McLeod. Let's take a look at how this major trade affects fantasy values for both teams. The Pacers should resort back to the small lineup, with Murphy playing the role that Harrington was supposed to. While Harrington is a more refined offensive player, Murphy is much more effective rebounder – over the course of their careers, Harrington has averaged 6.9 boards per 35 minutes while Murphy has averaged 10.2. Jeff Foster has been, as expected, a force on the boards since rejoining the starting lineup (9.8 per game in 25 starts), but he poses as little of an offensive threat as anyone in the league (5.1 points per game in 25 starts). Murphy has the ability to score inside and on the perimeter, rebounds at a similar rate, and should give Carlisle exactly what he's looking for – expect Murphy to once again become a nightly double-double threat with the Pacers. Dunleavy gets to leave the team that made him a No.3 overall pick, where expectations of production to match that draft position still hang over his head. His numbers have never been terrible, but have never been great, either, and his fantasy value shouldn't change all that much in Indiana – Dunleavy is simply a consistently average player. He is likely to form a platoon with Danny Granger at small forward, and both players' production should hold fairly steady. Marquis Daniels is suddenly an intriguing player, as he makes the most sense to replace Jackson as the team's starting shooting guard. He's been a disappointment this season, but is a perpetual fantasy sleeper, with career per-35 minute averages of 13.4 points, 4.7 boards, 3.4 rebounds, and 1.7 steals. He has been used sparingly to this part of the season, averaging just over 15 minutes per game, but this is an opportunity for a much more prominent role. If he fails to capitalize, Dunleavy and Granger could both be looking at starting assignments. Diogu and McLeod's fantasy value don't figure to change much with the trade, as they will have the same roles with their new team that they did with their former. The new-look Warriors lineup will be interesting to see in action, as they've replaced some square pegs with players whose styles are a much better fit. Obviously, Baron Davis will remain at point guard, and Andris Biedrins isn't going to get bumped by Harrington or Jackson. While Harrington is a lock, likely at power forward, the roles of Jackson, Matt Barnes, and Monta Ellis are a bit cloudier. Warriors coach Don Nelson has said earlier in the season that he likes Ellis as a reserve, so Jackson could replace Ellis at shooting guard, with Barnes remaining in the lineup as the team's small forward. Harrington will be the second scoring option in Golden State as he was in Indiana, but will see a few more shots per night just due to the change in systems – while the nature of his production will remain unchanged, overall this trade should help Harrington's fantasy value a bit. As with Harrington, Jackson's role won't fluctuate much with the new digs, but his offensive numbers could improve with the freedom that Nelson's system allows. Ellis will revert to his splits as a reserve, so plan accordingly. Barnes, who has emerged as a Nelson favorite, doesn't figure to leave the starting lineup, but will lose a few looks per night to his new teammates – while his offensive production may slip, his overall line is where his true value lies, anyway. Jasikevicius is a good fit with the Warriors, but he's behind enough players in the rotation that he won't play enough to really make an impact on a nightly basis. Powell will remain an end-of-the-rotation player in Golden State, as well. Quote Link to comment
hoopburners Posted January 18, 2007 Author Share Posted January 18, 2007 lintik.. tatanggalan ako ng internet connection sa office any moment.... waaaa!!!! :cry: commish, ayusin ko na lineup ko hanggang feb or mar... maghahanap muna ako ng trabaho na may internet.. heheh Quote Link to comment
PrettyboyPOPOY Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Guys, I just can't help it!I know its a long season and we are just entering the mid-summer special.But, for now, I BELIEVE that Kobe Bryant is the "clear-cut" MVP of the league with Gilbert Arenas a strong second and Dirk 3rd (Tmac 4th without Yao) With Odom and Brown out of the line-up, the Lakers boast a 26-13 record, beating the Spurs a while ago in their homecourt. Mind you, people said before that Kobe doesn't make his teammates better because he dominates and takes over the game a little too much! But this year, it is a different story; a different Kobe. The LEADER in Kobe Bryant has arrived. By taking LESS he gained MORE (excuse the cliche') thus making his young teammates BETTER than ever. Who would have thought that Kobe can lead this NOBODIES (without Odom, Brown and Mihm) to a GREAT Record in the STRONG WESTERN CONFERENCE? No one, and I will bet a barrel of BEER on that. If you will put the LAKERS in the EAST they are, again a clear cut, first seed in the WEAK EAST. My premise of Kobe over Arenas is very simple. With the Lakers (given that Kobe has nobodies, post Odom injury), faces the tough SPURS, MAVS, SUNS, UTAH, ROCKETS all year long and a solid other teams in WOLVES, NUGGETS, and yes WARRIORS with old time SOLIDS, KINGS, CLIPPERS and SONICS, while in the patheic EAST you got, PISTONS, CAVS, BULLS, MAGIC and underachievers in the ATLANTIC DIVISION. All I am saying is that, Kobe has a tougher LEAGUE in the WEST compared to ARENAS in the EAST. Yeah ARENAS is lighting it up, while KOBE is SHARING the WEALTH. Putting up MVP numbers with a least supporting cast and making them BETTER than ARENAS who has, JAMISON and BUTLER; NOWITZKI who has, J.Ho, Terry, and Stackhouse. Gwaps, GOG, hoop, bubs, and my fellow GMs whatdayyathink? Quote Link to comment
hoopburners Posted January 18, 2007 Author Share Posted January 18, 2007 ^ o, bat di mo sinama pacers jan? heheh undoubtly, kobe is playing differently this year. i've watched one game of the lakers (konti lang nba games dito sa macau eh), and i've noticed kobe isn't taking too many shots and hogging the ball too often as the previous year/s. he's been a team player as his ast production i believe went up and really finds open teammates. he's playing as a true leader for a depleted (could i say that?) team yet still having one the the better records on the strong western conference. 'nuff about that, for me, it's still nash as the premier candidate this early for the MVP plump. no offense bro pbp, but kobe is a close 2nd or 3rd in my book. nash still awe everyone with his superb play and on-court brilliance leading the suns. though i know nash can't carry the lakers if he's on the team instead of kobe, to win the MVP you've got to beat the things nash has been doing. kobe is on his way for that.. if averaging more than 30+ ppg last season with an incredible 81 on one game and leading the same lakers team on the playoffs wasn't enough to beat the man, then what else could he do? i'm not sure either. just my take bro pbp... Quote Link to comment
agentjackbauer Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 PBP, This is what I posted last 13 January 2007. Reflections/Questions on the season thus far: 1. AK-47- Whatever happened to the AK-47 of old? 2. Mike James- What has a huge contract done to you? 3. Jameer Nelson- Werent you supposed to make a big splash this year? 4. Carlos Boozer - Imagine if Lebron had you by his side. Cavs as the East Champ? 5. Dikembe - Blast from the past; a monster of the glass of late; now sits at no. 2 all-time in blocks (move over kareem). But now the finger wag gets you a technical. 6. Jason Kidd- Ageing like fine wine. 7. Brad Miller- No longer a top-tier fantasy center. 8. Camby- A monster... if and when he plays. 9. Nash- A pg in the running for a third straight MVP. Who would have thunk it? 10. Kobe- If I were to vote though right at this moment, Kobe gets the MVP (and Phil gets coach of the year). No Odom for the past weeks (and no Brown and Mihm) and still among the best records in the NBA? Are you kidding me, with that cast?!! 11. D.Wade- I agree with Rick Kamla. Destined to be better than Lebron and Melo. Quote Link to comment
teio Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 for me... nash is still the frontrunner to get the mvp plum... he might be boring at times... but he's effective and makes his teammates look good... Quote Link to comment
gwapogi Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 for me... nash is still the frontrunner to get the mvp plum... he might be boring at times... but he's effective and makes his teammates look good... but he has a phenomenal supporting cast - and a system tailor made for him... put him in, say, fratello's team, and his effectivity would be very much questioned... kobe... well, has lifted his team - with a lesser supporting cast... nuff said... Quote Link to comment
agentjackbauer Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 for me... nash is still the frontrunner to get the mvp plum... he might be boring at times... but he's effective and makes his teammates look good... Both Amare and Marion can look good even without Nash. You cant say the same thing about the Lakers without Kobe. Quote Link to comment
hoopburners Posted January 18, 2007 Author Share Posted January 18, 2007 ^ ops.. tama na yang MVP debate.. hehe dun kayo sa nba thread... hahah... steve nash can make my team really look good.. on the fantasy level though.. heheh :cool: Quote Link to comment
gwapogi Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 ^ ops.. tama na yang MVP debate.. hehe dun kayo sa nba thread... hahah... steve nash can make my team really look good.. on the fantasy level though.. heheh :cool: oh, definetely... see your team... hehehe... ...same case as with the other GM's... say, if a guy like jason kidd or chris paul ran with the current phx system and squad, i think they'd be MVP's like nashty, too... and as i've said, try putting nash in a deliberate hal-court system like mcmillan's or fratello's and there'd probabaly be a big difference in the output or something... ...but put kobe in, say, new orleans or toronto, and he'd still lift them up with his style of play, his leadership and his over-all talent... ...let it be known that i am NOT a kobe mark, at least before... am too much of a j-kidd fan... but the black mamba definetely commands respect... Quote Link to comment
Cal! Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 hehe! oo nga, dun kayo sa nba thread.. hehehe!!! peace paps! kobe is playing the leader everyone is expected of him... too early too tell but we may never know what will happen in the end. he just have to continue this very good attitude.. or else... we never know.. Quote Link to comment
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