peep_tom Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 This what im emphasizing, for those who believe that SMC wants to extend the series because of gate receipts and TV revenues is DEAD Wrong....The overhead expenses per game (salaries of the team, etc) outweigh the supposed revenue Why? the supposed income will be just a drop in the bucket for them...do you think the PBA per se is influencing SMC management to extend the series? Well think again....Will a reputable conglomerate like SMC do that and give in to the PBAs?prodding? No it's not SMC who would do such thing, because they won't get anything from it if they do it. Panalo na SMC dito so why would they do such a thing? Para masira reputation ng company? NO WAY they would do that. Like I said think people who would benefit from a long series? NOT SMB AND NOT GINEBRA. SMC management won't give in to the PBA's prodding but the PBA can control the refs can't they :evil: Quote Link to comment
peep_tom Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Thanks for talking about TV Revenues. @Everyone ABC-5 has a contract with the PBA. The TV Coverage contract by ABC 5 isn't on a per game basis. Its a two season contract. So whether the PBA plays more games or the PBA plays less games is immaterial because the PBA will get the same amount from the TV Coverage.but they won't get the same amount from gate receipts, endorsements, merchandise sales and advertisements. Quote Link to comment
orionpax Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 (edited) Right bro...SMB and Ginebra teams would like to end the series ASAP if they have it their way.. Who would like the series to go the full route? The people who think of a SMC or even a PBA conspiracy should think and do an enviromental scan... Its Araneta Coliseum (or Cuneta Astrodome) management and ABC-5 (via TV ratings/viewership) would like such series to extend...Not to mention the other outside factors like business near the venue:DNo it's not SMC who would do such thing, because they won't get anything from it if they do it. Panalo na SMC dito so why would they do such a thing? Para masira reputation ng company? NO WAY they would do that. Like I said think people who would benefit from a long series? NOT SMB AND NOT GINEBRA. SMC management won't give in to the PBA's prodding but the PBA can control the refs can't they :evil: Edited February 20, 2007 by orionpax Quote Link to comment
kLique Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 haaay! basta bottomline sa SMC mapupunta ang championship...it wld be favorable for us that this gets done with asap...we'll be having a much bigger fish to fry! Quote Link to comment
balamban Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 san miguel fans din ako Quote Link to comment
m@rky Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 I won't be surprised if the series goes into a game 7. Mas magugulat pa nga ako pag hanggang game 6 lang... Quote Link to comment
KobeWanKenobi Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 but they won't get the same amount from gate receipts, endorsements, merchandise sales and advertisements. 1. Endorsements are given on a per annual basis and is based on the popularity of a player. 2. Advertisements are given on a per advertising deal basis. 3. Merchandise sales are driven by the popularity and success of a team. Adding extra game/s in the finals won't affect the three items above. The only one affected by more games are gate receipts. But how much is the income from gate receipts? Assuming that the average price of tickets for the entire Araneta is P100 and there are 15,000 people watching the game. That results in a gross sales amount of P150,000. Subtract 12% local taxes and you're left with P132,000. Of that amount half goes to Araneta which leaves the PBA with just P66,000. Assuming the PBA and the two teams equally share the remaining sales, it leaves them with just P22,000 each. (Actually the winning team gets more but I remember the exact percentages of the ticket sales share between the three). That's not even 1/10th of the amount a star player gets. Quote Link to comment
xeanxyza Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 ok... let's stop arguing if the game was sold or not...game 5 tonight... i hope you'll all still back SMB up... go SMB!!!!! Quote Link to comment
oracle_man Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 1. Endorsements are given on a per annual basis and is based on the popularity of a player. 2. Advertisements are given on a per advertising deal basis. 3. Merchandise sales are driven by the popularity and success of a team. Adding extra game/s in the finals won't affect the three items above. The only one affected by more games are gate receipts. But how much is the income from gate receipts? Assuming that the average price of tickets for the entire Araneta is P100 and there are 15,000 people watching the game. That results in a gross sales amount of P150,000. Subtract 12% local taxes and you're left with P132,000. Of that amount half goes to Araneta which leaves the PBA with just P66,000. Assuming the PBA and the two teams equally share the remaining sales, it leaves them with just P22,000 each. (Actually the winning team gets more but I remember the exact percentages of the ticket sales share between the three). That's not even 1/10th of the amount a star player gets. Just for clarification:By your example, 100*15,000 should be 1.5M not 150K.So either all your figures (except the ave price of tickets) lack one zero or the ave price of tickets has 1 extra zero (i.e. the ave price is P10). Quote Link to comment
KobeWanKenobi Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 Just for clarification:By your example, 100*15,000 should be 1.5M not 150K.So either all your figures (except the ave price of tickets) lack one zero or the ave price of tickets has 1 extra zero (i.e. the ave price is P10). Thanks for your clarification. Still at the end of the day P220,000 isn't enough to cover the salary of one star player. And its a drop in the bucket if you consider that the monthly salaries of a PBA team totals P2.5M (P30 M annually), the income from ticket sales is just a drop in the bucket. Quote Link to comment
m@rky Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 damn... talo tayo... - do or die for us this friday... Quote Link to comment
kLique Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 this time no excuses... SMB tried their best bust just couldn't beat BGK tonight!they were unable to stop Helterbrand... and during the times they were able to...they couldn't capitalize on the chances being given them!so it all boils down to this... BGK basically has a twice to beat advantage for the championship Quote Link to comment
clubber_lang Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 ^ Finally! Someone who accepts reality. Great efforts by LA Tenorio and Danny Seigle. Lordy Tugade gave BGK fans a scare. Proof SMB is definitely a worthy opponent, not just because of the SMC backing... Quote Link to comment
echronic Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 (edited) why smb would win game6: -game 7 was to a sunday..more people would watch that game than on a friday -pba is on a recovering stage, they badly need all the $$$ -game 7 will win them tv ratings, and that would be a good boost to pba in ending the conference -they need to end the conference on a high note. why? because the next conference will be without some top heAd coaches and 12 superstars. even though may import, masmasaya parin manood ng pure locals. kaya i believe that they'll use game 7 to give the next conference some push. -they also need money for the new pba arena. so a game 7 would surely increase their profit. why gins would win game 6: -they're just too good of a team even though the refs would side with smb in game 6. -coach chot wants to start the practice for the national team. why smb would be the champs: -they'll be without chot, danny s., and dondon in the next conf. in short, baka boring sila next conf unless they get a good import. -chot wants to prove that he is the best coach for the national team. -pba says, "it's not yet time ginkings, the next conference would be boring, we'll get u a championship after the next conference so that we'll recover from the drop of the ratings". in short, gugutumin nila ang fans ng gins para pagdating ng next next conference, todo suporta na ang fans at meron ng cinderella story ang pba why gins would win the championship: -a top honcho in the refereeing told me that coach jong wants to prove something since he was not chosen as the national coach. -h-bomb backs his words:"i will win the championship, and there's nothing that can stop me". (if i heard it correctly). watch out for his triple H pose after they win the big one. -they won't be the same team next conference, so they will win the championship this conference. i see two strong teams battling for the finals next conference, purefoods and redbull. sad to say but i think gins and smb won't make it to the finals next conf. my pick:game 6: smb by 7game 7: gins by 5 im a fan of both teams but smb is my no.1 team... but i guess this conference isn't theirs. just my thoughts here Edited February 21, 2007 by echronic Quote Link to comment
xycho_g Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 wag nyong sabihn parang dallas ang mangyayari sa smb?!!!! got the first 2 but stuck at 2... pero kaya p yan...may game 7 yan sigurado ako... Quote Link to comment
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