boomouse Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 (edited) hahahaha. gusto mo sa linux thread naman? i know that your good at mac your good at programming etc... but guess what? i know a lot of problems regarding Apple hardwares, pc hardware....yung sa time capsule yung hardrive din mismo nasisira due to so many issues.. pero yes may problem din sa power etc.. tip ko lang maraming brand na pwede nyo gamitin sa mac na cheaper alternative or magbackup kayo di lang sa time capsule pati sa ibang media.. why? Hardrives are not safe for longterm backup system.. misleading? FYI: i have 1 macbook white and a macbook pro.. buti nalang ATI videocard why? lots of macbook pro with NVIDIA video are having problems... the culprit?NVIDIA GPU! pero malaki rin impact nyan sa mga apple user why? its to expensive... yes marami din brand nag suffer sa problem na ito like HP dell etc... asan sila ngayon? nasa top 1-3 sa total sales ng unit worldwide.. and i am also selling macbook and macbook pros! i even have the new imac 27" coming next month.. i have also WINDOWS XP, VISTA and Windows 7 system... wag mo masyadong depensahan ang mac dahil kailangan malaman din ng mga user ang mga disadvantages nito or yung mga hardware problems.. mas misleading kung sasabihin natin na walang nagiging problem ang unit ikaw mismo yung macbook pro mo sabi mo dati nagkakaproblem ka dun sa video nya... at wala ako masama sa sinabi ko.. atleast nag warn pa ako... then sabi mo its like sharing a toothbrush? the problem IT IS HAPPENING.. come on this bug is not isolated.... sino ba gusto ma wipeout ang files diba? === Product updates: may bagong macbook na.. yung hindi na nagkakaproblem yung casing dahil parang macbook pro 13" na design nya on a white case.... Sino dito may macbook white na nagkakacrack sa palmrest at sa LCD area? still waiting sa apple kung magiging free na yung replace ng casings nito kasi design flaws talaga sya but till now ayaw parin isama sa warranty... === Ynzal is a very good service provider nagkaroon lang talaga ng konting issue kaya di na sila naging silver service provider.. pero still i believed that ok parin ang integrity nila.. i have a friend there... pero sa gold service provider ako kung saan dun din pumupunta si ynzal. Eh tindero ka pala ng computer eh. Sana sinabi mo kaagad para naman malinaw sa amin kung ano ang intensyon ng mga post mo. Dapat, ilagay mo na rin yun tindahan mo. Malay mo sa iyo ako bumili. Ngayon pa na nalubog halos lahat ng system ko? Magpapalit talaga ako. Meron din akong ibang computer. Meron nga akong Augmentyx na ruggedized pero kahit na anong problema ilagay mo sa thread na ito walang sinabi ang mga yon sa sakit ng ulo na inabot ka sa mga umaandar sa Windows lalo na Vista. Yun mga computer na yon, hindi ako nanghihinayang na nalubog ni Ondoy. Hindi ko nga pina-insure. Yun mga Mac ko insured. Ikaw nag-banggit ng Time Capsule hindi naman ako o ibang tao. Sabi mo may problema. Sana nagbigay ka ng detalye. Eh ngayon sasabihin mo meron ibang pwedeng gamitin. Teka, may binebenta ka na pwede ipalit sa Time Capsule? Okay! Sabihin mo dito ng malaman naman namin OK lang naman yon. Sa thread na ito, pag-may tinatanong na problema, sinasagot kasi end-user and nagtatanong. Akala ko end-user ka. Eh tindero ka pala, kaya sige lang, di na kita papatulan. Edited October 22, 2009 by boomouse Quote Link to comment
boomouse Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Oh oh oh! I have a white macbook now that has that cracking problem. It's near the plamrest area, though it's located on the bottomcase. Also see cracks appearing on the hinge itself. Scary... Sana nga nag appear na lang sila sa topcase para mas madali palitan ng Apple. As it is now, one applecare center actually refused to replace the part. I've seen that problem and it is usually caused by repeated torqueing of the case, i.e., when a racking force is exerted on the plastic case from lifting it on one end only. A racking force (sorry can't explain it here, but there is a wiki) acts like a lever and very little force is needed to cause a part failure. This is also true in the hinge area from the repeated opening and closing of the top case by exerting force on only one corner instead of the two front corners of the top case. This is not a problem isolated to Macs. Old Compaqs especially are notorious for this problem as with the cheap notebooks with the flimsy hinges. If these problems happen, you can argue it both ways. The end user can claim bad design or poor quality materials (implying that no matter how you chose to open a notebook case or handle it, it should hold up) and the manufacturer can claim equipment abuse. I know that Apple has installed several mechanical and even electronic sensors in their products that will indicate an overstressed case (a small tab breaks inside), or water immersion (a treated part gets discolored), or a dropped case (the accelerometer will log a measured impact force that Apple service can access) or a short circuit happening caused by a spilled liquid (logged as an electrical anomaly in the service log). It is possible that a stress indicator broke in your laptop. Even storing it in a computer bag and then having something heavy go on top of the bag can cause a crack especially when jostled inside a moving vehicle. It has happened to me. I'm not apologizing for Apple. I'm just trying to explain how they approach problems like this. Believe me, I don't even think the local service guys are that sophisticated. Quote Link to comment
djrs Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Meron din akong ibang computer. Meron nga akong Augmentyx na ruggedized pero kahit na anong problema ilagay mo sa thread na ito walang sinabi ang mga yon sa sakit ng ulo na inabot ka sa mga umaandar sa Windows lalo na Vista. Yun mga computer na yon, hindi ako nanghihinayang na nalubog ni Ondoy. Hindi ko nga pina-insure. Yun mga Mac ko insured. Vista? not using it anymore... hehehehehe. saka mac thread to diba? sabi mo diba? wait for the windows seven instead... ewan ko ba yung mga HARDCORE Macfanboy may marinig lang or mabasa na negative about mac ayun bigla nilang babanatan MS OS. like vista.. hehehehe. by the way yung asus nagkaproblem din sa hinges pero they will replace the hinges at no extra charges... yung problem sa macbook sobrang grabe dahil ang dami ko ng nahawakan na laptop macbook lang yung nagkakaroon ng crack sa palmrest or sa lcd minsan ma notice mo sya around 3months of use... buti nalang binago na nila yung design ngayon.. one sexy white machine yung bagong macbook.. Quote Link to comment
djrs Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 This is not a problem isolated to Macs. Old Compaqs especially are notorious for this problem as with the cheap notebooks with the flimsy hinges by the way MACBOOK are not cheap...... i have here asus 1000HE dinadaganan ng baby ko na 1yr old while watching her fave sesame street shows... cheap netbooks but sturdy design... you can put MAC OS on it. heheheheh. Quote Link to comment
djrs Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 TIPS:by djrs 1. dont buy upgrade/replacement parts sa apple center! like Memory, Hardisk and LCD! same parts lang yan ng ibang laptop and its way cheaper! 25-75% cheaper! with 1 to 2 years warranty or sometimes lifetime warranty pa! dun nyo pa service then kung may papalitan parts go elsewhere.... binayaran nyo dun sa apple is the apple logo.. (EX: Hardisk with apple logo pero seagate, Hitachi etc din yung brand!, Memory samsung, kingston, corsair etc... pag may apple logo napaka mahal na. ) 2. pag gagamitin nyo ng matagal yung laptop tapos araw2x remove your battery pag full charged na tapos use the power adapter! para mas tatagal buhay ng battery nyo.. 3. pag magpapaservice kayo siguraduhin nyo na wala kayo private or important files! 4. use your cd to check the integrity of your hardwares before going to service center baka may problem lang yung OS baka reformat lang katapat.. Quote Link to comment
artvader Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 (edited) I've seen that problem and it is usually caused by repeated torqueing of the case, i.e., when a racking force is exerted on the plastic case from lifting it on one end only. A racking force (sorry can't explain it here, but there is a wiki) acts like a lever and very little force is needed to cause a part failure. This is also true in the hinge area from the repeated opening and closing of the top case by exerting force on only one corner instead of the two front corners of the top case. This is not a problem isolated to Macs. Old Compaqs especially are notorious for this problem as with the cheap notebooks with the flimsy hinges. If these problems happen, you can argue it both ways. The end user can claim bad design or poor quality materials (implying that no matter how you chose to open a notebook case or handle it, it should hold up) and the manufacturer can claim equipment abuse. I know that Apple has installed several mechanical and even electronic sensors in their products that will indicate an overstressed case (a small tab breaks inside), or water immersion (a treated part gets discolored), or a dropped case (the accelerometer will log a measured impact force that Apple service can access) or a short circuit happening caused by a spilled liquid (logged as an electrical anomaly in the service log). It is possible that a stress indicator broke in your laptop. Even storing it in a computer bag and then having something heavy go on top of the bag can cause a crack especially when jostled inside a moving vehicle. It has happened to me. I'm not apologizing for Apple. I'm just trying to explain how they approach problems like this. Believe me, I don't even think the local service guys are that sophisticated. Well I think we can rule out racking force on the hinge since the crack is actually starting to appear from the middle, not the edge where the force would have been concentrated on... I haven't really "abused" my laptop... yet. That is, unless they consider having the laptop travel frequently as something abusive. No history of it being dropped, being banged up or any traumatic actions done to it. But it is a mobile computer (a laptop), therefore it should be resistant to everyday stress anyways. Stress indicator? Has Apple already implemented this? Last I heard they recently filed a patent for it... didn't know it has been deployed already (the exception would be the accelerometer, of course). I had it checked at an overseas Applecare Service Center, actually. They took pictures of the crack and forwarded the picture to their regional Tech Support Care Specialist (I'm guessing Singapore). Then they called back to say that the request to have it replaced has been denied. They didn't even have to take in my macbook for that so I guess, they found no signs of any stress indicator being triggered (I was there the whole time they were examining the exterior of the machine). Edited October 22, 2009 by artvader Quote Link to comment
bitterxsweet Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 question: does bringing it to a different service provider change anything? i mean if one says no, is there a chance another center will agree to repair/replace your mac pa? Quote Link to comment
boomouse Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 question: does bringing it to a different service provider change anything? i mean if one says no, is there a chance another center will agree to repair/replace your mac pa? It should not, but in the Philippines, there is always a chance you get a different evaluation. Quote Link to comment
TX Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 i love SL! bilis on and shut down so far mejo nagkaproblem lang ko di gumana yung phot booth at stikiespero i just throw the old one na nka dock then nilagay yung bago from HD then OK na nevr ko pa encounter file loss kasi di ako nag open guest acct kasi no need. ____________________________ ganda ng new macbook! Quote Link to comment
djrs Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 dapat kasi yung MAC OS dapat madali na install sa any pc! example mo nalang ito! same performance but its way cheaper!! Psytar Desktop Mac! same intel lang naman yan at videocards mas marami option sa upgrades! Quote Link to comment
boomouse Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 dapat kasi yung MAC OS dapat madali na install sa any pc! example mo nalang ito! same performance but its way cheaper!! Psytar Desktop Mac! same intel lang naman yan at videocards mas marami option sa upgrades! Okay lang yan. If that's what turns you on. In fact, you can buy a $49 program from Psystar called Rebel EFI that will allow you to install mac OS on any Wintel machine--kuno. Haven't tried it yet. I guess, there will be people who will want to go this route. As for me, well, parang kotse lang yan eh. Kung nakagamit ka na ng Benz or BMW at kaya mo rin lang bumili, mahihirapan ka na gumamit ng Kia. Quote Link to comment
djrs Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 (edited) As for me, well, parang kotse lang yan eh. Kung nakagamit ka na ng Benz or BMW at kaya mo rin lang bumili, mahihirapan ka na gumamit ng Kia. o well mayaman ka kasi sobra.. thats why you will never again use a KIA... wala nanaman pinagkaiba ang mac hardware sa pc hardware e... sa OS nalang nagkakatalo yan.. para mong sinabi na KIA lang ang Windows machine... haha. yung sa psystar dinemanda sila ng APPLE for using ORIGINAL MAC OS sa machine nila! hahahaha. atleast nga original diba? Ohh and by the way i dont consider MAC as a BMW... its just a matter of preference! KIA's engine is different from BMW's Engine... But apple's Processor is also PC processors! "INTEL inside" hehehehe! same hardrives! same memories... para mong sinabi na TRIKE lang ang LINUX... hahaha. basta kung may MOOLAH ka mag mac ka! yun lang yun.... Edited October 23, 2009 by djrs Quote Link to comment
djrs Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Okay lang yan. If that's what turns you on. In fact, you can buy a $49 program from Psystar called Rebel EFI that will allow you to install mac OS on any Wintel machine--kuno. Haven't tried it yet. tried mac os on AMD machine, Intel machine.. and even Netbooks... yes totoo yan yung usb lang saksak mo pede mo nagamitin mac os.. Quote Link to comment
djrs Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 sa lahat ng may time capsule na sira na at wala narin warranty na di narin gumagana please post it here...http://timecapsuledead.org/ Quote Link to comment
boomouse Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 o well mayaman ka kasi sobra.. thats why you will never again use a KIA... wala nanaman pinagkaiba ang mac hardware sa pc hardware e... sa OS nalang nagkakatalo yan.. para mong sinabi na KIA lang ang Windows machine... haha. yung sa psystar dinemanda sila ng APPLE for using ORIGINAL MAC OS sa machine nila! hahahaha. atleast nga original diba? Ohh and by the way i dont consider MAC as a BMW... its just a matter of preference! KIA's engine is different from BMW's Engine... But apple's Processor is also PC processors! "INTEL inside" hehehehe! same hardrives! same memories... para mong sinabi na TRIKE lang ang LINUX... hahaha. basta kung may MOOLAH ka mag mac ka! yun lang yun.... You know, this is what every PC vendor would want everybody to believe that a PC is essentially the same as a Mac just because the specs are similar. No matter how many times you say this, you will find it hard to convince Mac users--especially Mac users who have had experience using a PC, that the build quality of a Dell or HP is the same as a Mac. Maybe a Sony or a Panasonic Toughbook. But those run-of-the-mill excuses for a bucket of bolts you sell in the malls? Puhhleeez! You know just as I do that one reason those things are so cheap is because they use remanufactured or remarked processors--processors that did not pass quality control on the first pass and had to be sent back to be 'fixed'. These are the same processors that Apple would have rejected. It is not just a matter of preference. It is also a matter of aspiration. Those big CPUs with the ATX cases you sell? They have the same specs as a Mac right? But look how they are built and compare that to the cheapest Mac--the Mac Mini and your ATX case will look like a pig with lipstick. Sure a Mac Mini is probably twice the price of a similar spec PC but it is something I can sit beside my wide screen TV in the living room to stream my movies. You can't do that with a PC without making the whole place look ugly. I tell you, people only endure that because they have to or don't really care. You should preach to them. I speak for myself when I say this but I suspect some people may silently agree with me, but human economic behavior dictates that one tends to buy the best they can afford. Four years ago, people like you were laughing at Mac users for buying a computer that made up only 2 percent of all computers sold. Last year the figure was at 8 per cent and this year, Gartner Group says that it is at 10 percent. Should the figure be higher than this? I would not want it to be. I think Apple should raise prices to maintain this figure. After all, they are already the most profitable tech company in the US. Should Apple allow their OS to be used in trashy hardware like you want? I would not want this to happen. Why? This increases the number of Mac OS users, and this popularity makes hacking the OS more attractive to the virus makers. Of course, good surfing habits and best practices will keep the chance of a virus problem low but when the computer gets cheaper, then users tend to take their machines for granted more and let their guard down. Call me elitist. I don't care. But we Mac users have considered ourselves a different kind of computer user for a long time. My first Mac was a Mac Plus and I have grown accustomed to being the among the minority in the population of computer users. You obviously have a different agenda because you aspire to make money out of a market where people who might not otherwise afford a Mac would now be able to get one through, you hope, a legitimized Hackintosh. The way a Mac is built, it will never be considered similar to an ordinary PC. In the same way, you can never say that a BMW M3 with those beutifully hand-made individual throttle butterflies--all eight of them will be the technological equal of a Korean- or Japan-made engine just because they both burn gasoline. Quote Link to comment
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