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how many parking spaces does it have?

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About 5 slots

ok ba parking dyan meron bang motel sa fairview puro kasi apartel lang nakikita ko

Sorry bro, but bawal ang motel within Q.C., just apartelles.

O' Mai Khan near City Hall. Mongolian style. Very good :thumbsupsmiley:

mga bro pa turo naman ng directions going there kc mejo malabo yung mga na unang directions... thanx

 

may parking ba??

Yes there's parking but it is exposed. Along Commonwealth Ave coming from Ever Gotesco, it will be the first stoplight. In that intersection you will see a McDonald's on your right and a Jollibee in Centermall on your left. Turn left at the stoplight and it will be on your right about 150 meters from the stoplight

Texas Roadhouse grill... great steaks!!!

I miss:

 

1. ULAMNILAD in Araneta Center Cubao (Lechon kawali and the yellow-colored sauce! :boo: )

 

2. TOM SAWYER'S restaurant in Greenhills.

 

3. Those ICE CREAM Shops we frequent.

 

4. CASA MARCOS!

Yes, casa marcos and their famous pandesal

toni gonzaga... used to sing...and SITTI ... in the restobar...cozy place...

Yes, resto bar is nice. Been there 3 or 4 times with a date. Very satisfied with the service.

Malinis naman compared to other appartelles but then yung heater nung shower di gumagana...

Agree. I did complain to the front desk about the shower

Where is that exactly located? Never heard of it eh.

Anyone try spring deer recentl Is it still good?

Spring deer is still good.

Ma Mon Luk in Katipunan and Cubao. Now I still have to go to Banawe to get my favorite special siopao and mami

KITA AUTO MO>> PWEDE NA PANG QUICKIE

Medyo out of the way naman yung location. Malas na lang talaga pag may nakakita ng auto mo.

Clarification lang, Coral Gables is located on Regalado Ave (not to be confused with the Regalado Ave Ext which leads to SM Fairview) not Dahlia St. It's that orange building a block from Fairview Center Mall.

 

400 for 12 hrs, 500 vip room, the difference is that the VIP rooms are slightly bigger, and has a couch(?) and bathtub. Regular rooms are decent.

Thanks for the clarification

Dahlia St.? near FEU-Fairview?

It is near Fairview Center Mall. If you're along Commonwealth Ave and coming from Ever-Gotesco Mall, Dahlia st is around 2-3 kms from Ever. WHen you hit the main area of Fairview, the Center Mall will be on your right. As a landmark, Dahlia St. will be the street with a stoplight immediately after McDonald's (this wil be on your right). At the stoplight, make a left turn and Coral Gables Suite is around 500 meters from Center Mall.

Residential pa ang dating ng area. I've tried two rooms pa lang. The P400 which is quite small and the P500 suite, bigger but same amenities as the P400 room that is TV, Aircon, toilet/shower.

I experienced a weird thing in Apt. #8 sa Camelot. Bumukas mag-isa yung mga beer na inorder namin right in front of us. This freaked us out. Nasa dulo pa naman itong room na ito. :evil:

Have any of you guys tried this place. It's an apartelle along Dahlia St. in Fairview.

What is a good time to go here. I've tried three times already and always I get turned away by the guard because the place is already full :boo:

OK lang naman ang sugary e....in fact high na high ako dyan.....lalo na sa sugar na may paa at kamay at may bumpers sa harap at sa likod....lalo na kapag balbon at brunette :evil:

 

Para di OT:

Hopefully mga 2nd Qtr ng 2007 or earlier mago-open ang Megamall branch?

Megamall branch is open already. It is located at the ground floor of Megamall B (supermarket side) near Pizza Hut. Actually, ok lang ang sugary but it is too expensive. That will limit their marketability.

Am not sure if girls are malibog if they wear a t-back, but definitely ako nalilibugan if I see them. Of course the girl has to be sexy looking. he he

I have to agree!!! BPI sobrang lousy! bulok even!

Parang utang ng loob mo pa sa kanila na tinatago nila deposit mo...

lahat ng lang ng gagawin may fee na katumbas...

even their OTC withdrawals... they charge P100 ata?! WTF!!!

pera ko naman yan... bkit parang ayaw ibigay sa akin!!! :grr:

seryoso... pagdating sa bank na to di mo basta-basta ma-withdraw money mo... daming kalokohan na policies!

for those using their payroll system... try to check guys!

minsan hindi nagtally ang centavos...

meaning everytime u transact nababawasan ka ng more than what should be debited...

kahit na one centavo lang yan... ilan accts gumagamit nito...

I wholeheartedly agree!!!

Went to this place this afternoon, around 3:30pm. It was fully booked. Sayang, wanted to try it. Unfortunately, most of the apartelles along Quezon Ave was full. A lot of nearby residents were in due to the prolonged power failure in West Triangle and Mother Ignancia. Ended up in Victoria Court instead in Caloocan. Next time.

So who will help the newbie lifters at Slimmers World? YOU? :boo: Will anyone? Why do guys like myself and Olympus get flooded with e-mails and private messages from Slimmers members, but they whine about how they already paid for Slimmers (and get no help) and don't understand why they have to join Eclipse to get our help AT NO EXTRA COST?

 

I help anyone who comes into Eclipse asks sincere help from me. I even gave out our 5x5 program for FREE online. Follow the link. Hundreds of people have benefited from it already. I was even threatened to be kicked out of Gold's before when I was a member because their members came to me (for free) instead of hiring their trainers in a 10 session package (who these call center kids could not afford). I didn't advertise. If someone asked me for some advice, I gave it. Little did I know that this is a "no-no" in most gyms. Try training someone out of the goodness of your heart sometime and see how long it takes for you to get an expulsion warning from your gym, even if you are not taking money. In most gyms around the WORLD, a veteran helping a newbie is something COMMON. Here it is a serious offense.

 

Why don't you be part of the solution instead of being part of the problem?

 

Equus said it best. Argue my points instead of attacking me. You know I'm not making up what I'm saying. If you like their crap facility, more power to you. But stop with the crab mentality or "misery loves company" perspective. Give others the chance to think critically. I'll even say here to visit Slimmers World and ask them to give you a DETAILED example of their program and make them GUARANTEE IT. They won't do it. I'll guarantee my program. The person inquiring can compare the two and see for themselves who is only out for money and who is out to help and give back.

 

Trying to discredit me only makes me a martyr in the eyes of those who have met me or are members of Eclipse or are thinking about joining.

 

To win a debate, you need to debate the points at hand.

There are times when the hard seller has to employ hardball marketing tactics. This is normally needed when somebody gives an opinion or observation that is contrary to the view of the hard seller. Attack the person, call him a sucker, or that he has crab mentality, or whatever. Then you alsto try to bring in others into the equation, kind of like asking for sympathy or confirmation. Afterwards, you try to appeal to the audience by making it appear that you ae martyr making a sacrifice. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

Anyway, one thing I learned is that observations cannot be generalized as true for everybody at all times. Even scientific studies come with caveats like this experiment work for 75% of the test cases and may not work for some other conditions or may work only under certain conditions.

My point is this Mr. EG, you had a bad experience with Slimmer's World and I do not argue with that. I cannot argue with what you felt be cause you were the one who felt it not me. I related my own experience and observations about Slimmer's World and there were others who pointed out their own which were different from your own experience. That is what you call an exchange of opinion or observation. No need to call them names or tell them that they know what they are doing or to declare to the world out here that you are the only one who knows what you're doing like you are God's gift to weight training. These observations are experential in nature and foolish to tell that person that what they experienced is wrong and from your own argument that they are wrong because it is different from your own view.

I think it was Ninoy Aquino who said that " I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend your right to say it". This thnking requires a lot of discipline. Not the physical kind, but mental.

princeracket,

 

It is fallacious to attack the arguer and not the argument.

 

Eclipseguy has provided justification behind his claims why he personally thinks that Slimmers world is crap. Best thing to do really is to argue that people have the right to spend their money however goddamn way they please. I can attest however that slimmers does not have what it takes for serious training.. Weekend fitness at best..

 

In any case, I work out at fitness first but I urge all newbies and beginners, if you do not know what yer doing, slimmers and fitness first is not a good avenue for a solid foundation for your fitness future. They WILL squeeze you for everything yer worth... These gyms are ONLY good if you already know what yer doing...

 

Peace guys.

Peace Equus. No problem :cool:

Buyers who know better? That's funny coming from a Slimmers sucker. This is exactly why I don't court CURRENT Slimmers World members, because they ALWAYS waste my time. Again, those who know me know that I don't need the money so enough with the speculation. If I was lying, I'd be exposed by now, and Equus has met me as well as many others on this forum. I don't charge a personal fee because I'm not allowed to do so. My visa doesn't allow me to charge extra fees for my training services. I can invest only and passively help by writing programs. You do not pay extra fees beyond our membership rates to get my program custom tailored written by me...and I guarantee it. If I was in the States, I'd charge $150 per hour (or more) if I was still coaching there. I'm here because I like it here. It's a nice place to semi-retire. Is it clear now?

One of the few marketing tactics employed by Jollibee or McDonald's when they need more customers is to go where the competitior is and try to poach their customers. For example, people from Jollibee in one location would go to McDonald's in another location and then distribute leaflets near that location to try and get the McDonald's customers to switch.

It's the same here, you go from one thread to the other and see whom you can poach. Its basically hard sell in another form.

We were planning to sell protein at 1/2 the price or less than it is offered now. Reason? Because if people are going to buy it, at least they should pay what it is WORTH. Hard sell or the RIGHT THING TO DO because we are trying to help the industry? If you love to throw your money away, then don't buy our stuff.

 

Among lawyers, they normally call this a confession. Nagbebenta nga talaga. When you see or smell something fishy, you can catch them in their mouth.

Here is a simple economics lesson:

 

A "lifetime" member paid P30,000 back in 1991. This lifetime member does not hire trainers or use spa or skincare services. Therefore this member is effectively paying P2000 per year or less than Php180 per month for his membership. One hour of treadmill use probably costs the gym Php50 if you consider the cost of electricity, maintenance, depreciation, etc. The gym is losing a great deal if this individual actually uses his membership by showing up and taking up floor space. If enough people like this continue to go to Slimmers for years on end, they'll be overrun. The reason Slimmers World sells lifetime memberships is because THEY KNOW that most people quit after a few weeks or transfer to a gym with better equipment/service.

 

Does anyone HONESTLY believe that the management is going to help this individual once they've paid for a lifetime membership and don't spend on their spa or PT?

 

The reason most gyms now like FF, Gold's, and Eclipse do not offer lifetime memberships, is because we wouldn't be able to survive and give good service. I consider a lifetime membership to be a less-than-honest practice unless someone KNOWS exactly what they are getting themselves into. MOST PEOPLE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY ARE BUYING WHEN THEY BUY A LIFETIME MEMBERSHIP.

 

I tell people straight-up, and even here, that we don't offer lifetime memberships because we are trying to maintain the best equipment and give good service and help everyone with their program, regardless of their ability to afford a personal trainer/strength coach. We understand that most people cannot afford such luxury. We want our members who stick with our system for a few months to have nothing but good things to say about us...and realize that while we are more expensive, we actually offer something far more valuable than money, especially for those who don't know what they are doing. Once this is the case, we'll never have the problems that plague other gyms...and these problems will eventually k*ll the industry if nothing is done. The Philippines has a microscopic upper class and a very small middle class. When enough people see a gym as a waste of money, all gyms are DOOMED. This is exactly why most of the people who are passionate about the fitness industry have left the industry. My beef with Slimmers World is a beef with the entire industry, and the fact that I care more about the industry than I do about making money from it. As I've said at least 100 times, I don't need to do this to pay my bills. I earn from other things. I WANT to do it, because fitness has given so much to me. There is nothing more satisfying than giving back and helping others feel the same passion for the industry that I do.

 

It's as simple as that.

This is a pretty good example of Hard Sell. You normally see this type of selling technique among pre-need sales people like education plans, memorial plans, etc. Also common among insurance and real estate sales people. Its a pretty good technique once you have mastered it. First, you try to catch the attention of your prospect with some fancy computation on your upfront investment, ROI's, your out-of-pocket cost. Then they will segue into some observations against their competition, that is generally untrue but of course the buyer (who is a sucker) has no way of knowing or verifying the truth. Anyway, most of those hapless buyers are too polite to contradict the hard selling salesman. That's why they hate and attack buyers who knows better. Like me. :hypocritesmiley:

One of their favorite line is "I am doing this to help you etc etc etc". And this is followed by a Q&A session where the hard selling guy shows his sincerity. After the salesman gets your sympathy, WHAMM, they'll hit you with the fees, price, etc. He will even say that he's not doing this for the money which is why his price is very low. He just wants to help. Of course, the innocent buyer has been painted to a corner and has no choice but to buy. :thumbsdownsmiley:

As I said, nothing wrong with this. A man's got to earn a living. To all newbie lifters out there, Buyer Beware!!! :goatee:

We were planning to sell protein at 1/2 the price or less than it is offered now. Reason? Because if people are going to buy it, at least they should pay what it is WORTH. Hard sell or the RIGHT THING TO DO because we are trying to help the industry? If you love to throw your money away, then don't buy our stuff.

 

Slimmers World has been around for a long time because a sucker is born every minute...and the impulse of most people is to pay the lowest price rather than research the best value. Those with too much pride get overly defensive about their purchase, even when they know they paid for sh!t. They only update their equipment when it is literally falling apart, because Moy is a very wise individual. He knows that if they modernize their facilities, they'd be overrun with their old lifetime members who have since moved on.

 

Personal? Again, if you are going to criticize me for telling the truth about Slimmers, then don't stick your hand out for a handout. Ask the "steroid-free gurus" at your gym for help if they are so all-knowing. You've already stated your confidence in them already, so I don't see the point of your question in the first place....but wait...could it be because most of the good trainers at Slimmers have left years ago? We both know that the good ones leave as soon as they get experience. My members know that they can come to me anytime and come as far away as Commonwealth to train in Malate because they know that we are the real deal...and the best come to train with us. There is no point for a talented trainer to stay with people who have no aspirations for results or will not spend beyond their lifetime membership.

 

I spend so much time on these forums because I'm giving back what was once given to me....and I don't want the next generation to make the same mistakes I did which cost me years of wasted time, effort, and money.

 

If I see a problem and I don't fix it, then I am the problem.

Right or not, hard sell is hard sell. Pretty obvious that your objective is financial gain. No need to hide in that "I am just giving back what was given to me BS." Nothing really wrong with being upfront, you have to earn a living right??? I've seen so many guys like you pretending to help.... of course for a fee. Again, nothing wrong in that, you have to earn a living.

I am pretty sure that you have seen your share of suckers. Which is why you're here right. Why let Slimmer's profit from those suckers alone. You want your share too! Pretty obvious!!!

To all the suckers out there, just beware of this "holier than thou" trainer.