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should i give up or should i just keep chasing pavements

only you have the answer to that..

Life is short, break the rules, forgive

quickly, kiss slowly, love truly, laugh uncontrollably, and never regret anything that made you smile. Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did.

-Mark Twain -Amber Deckers mash up

LInger by the cranberries with the 67 a piece orchestra....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnY6UlYv4NM#t=13

5 types of women on my avoid list. - The first 4 i have encountered already the last 1 thankfully haven't encountered that type.

1. Mother Hen -If this girl is constantly fixing your things and tucking in your shirt, or even cleaning your car, you’re the victim of a Mother Hen. Although she may have good intentions and be great in many other ways, her motherly instincts will eventually drive you crazy.

2. The User – The self centered taker that manipulates and maneuvers everyone and everything to only benefit herself. If you as such make a mistake in offering your hand she will take your whole arm too..

3. Damsel in distress- she's activating your Knight in shining armor complex. She is playing the role of the "damsel," wanting you to take on the "rescuer" role and invest your heart and resources in her out of pity, and "doing the right thing." It isn't the right thing, but it's deeply imbedded in nearly all males that we are "supposed to" take care of women in trouble.

4, The Girl Who has Everything-It's difficult not to like the girl who has everything, because in addition to being gorgeous, rich, sexy, fashionable and smart, she's also probably really nice (or great at pretending to be.) She might even be a princess Not only does her having everything affect your self-worth, It will also trigger your insecurities.

5. Everything But the Girl- she may have the most beautiful face and sexiest body longest legs that you thought she just stepped out of a FHM magazine. She’s always chill and doesn’t have tantrums. Your friends think that she is the coolest thing on earth. Odds are she is a gamer herself, or at least has some knowledge in games, that you like . She accompanies you to your sports events, and she doesn’t mind having a KFC or Jona’s pares for dinner instead of eating out at those expensive fine-dining restaurants. Be careful bro this girl is a Dude…..

K THANKS BYE...

My thoughts about this topic.. If You cannot love yourself with all your flaws then You will probably stop loving the object of adoration once their flaws are discovered. Adoration is the willingness to see the highest in another person. It can also manifest the highest in a person. Yet, putting somebody on a pedestal means closing our eyes to areas that need nurturing. Such denial will lead eventually to rude awakenings when shortcomings and character defects are finally seen. Only when You can love/nourish/forgive yourself in your lower qualities, can you do the same with other people. Borrowing a phrase from Mr Legend “Love your curves and all your edges ,All your perfect imperfections”

chicks with thigh gap (The gap between a women's thighs directly below the vagina, often diamond shaped when the thighs are together.)

Very interesting topic… here are my thoughts on this. First, we all know the reason why we are here so I wouldn’t focus on that. Second, it is important to note that men have different reasons on why they go to “Spakols” Perhaps there are relationship issues or a lack of sex in the marriage. There is also the novelty factor or the thrill of doing something illicit. The excitement and anticipation you feel when you go for the hunt. Getting their rocks off, and some might be even looking for a relationship while others go there to release their tension and anxiety etc etc. Now, “is this a smart thing to do…. Sticking to 1 thera”. Its depends on your intentions and needs.. for the guy who’s looking for the novelty factor or the thrill of the hunt to add to his selection of trophies this might not be acceptable sooner or later the thrill factor will be gone and off he goes to the next conquest. For the guy, who’s looking for an afternoon escape from the daily grind he might have different intentions too and might want to try everyone in the line up (ninja mode) … for the average guy looking to snag a Super Hot thera it might be a smart idea to concentrate on one.. AS for me , my Mantra is “ Only be loyal to a therapist you like” I have experienced having a therapist that I would visit regularly. She was my main thera and all this time I never gotten anyone else from the time I became her regular client. I liked her service I liked how she treated me with TLC I loved our conversations, not mention the X factor she exudes and the connection we had. To say the least the ES part wasn’t even on the top of the reasons why I became her regular.. it was a bonus for me. Unfortunately it just lasted for about 6 mos. Because she left the business and continued with her private life. So right now I have a different intention I am again in the process of searching for my “Main thera” one I could be comfortable with and have the qualities I am looking for. Feel free to try out multiple therapists if you need to in order to find the person you work best with. Once you find that therapist, stick with them. You should only go back to someplace if you have a good experience. I think it is important to point out that this applies to all fields. If you don't like your dentist, or barber/hair stylist, or doctor, find someone else who is a better fit. As for developing intimacy, this will be a risk that you have to decide on eventually, it will only happen if you allow it to happen. Golden Rule for myself , take FR’s with a grain of salt. Many of them are not representative of the businesses. Once You find a therapist you like, stick with them. If you don't like someone, move on without being mean and spirited. Everyone has a different style. Just because one therapist doesn't work well for you, doesn't mean they are bad at what they do.

Disappointment occurs when reality does not match expectations...

Love has taught me that in order for a relationship to work it has to be unconditional.... thats the reason why i'm not in one..

I’m not being a knight in shining armor here but I think the lady has a point. And most probably it’s the same feeling for most girls in this thriving industry. The way I understood her post is “bigyan naman natin sila ng konting respeto” now is that too much to ask? I think not. Being in this kind of work is hard enough already let us not make it any harder for them. Symbiotic ang relationship ng Gm’s and theras it can both be beneficial and at the same time harmful to both parties. I think they have had enough of the judging and the generalizing Society has already done that. Now to Gms that got duped by theras , it was your decision na nagpaloko kayo in the first place and its quite unfair to put the blame on every girl that works in this industry. Lets drop that male ego and be compassionate. Same goes for the Theras, there are still good men around don’t stop believing you still have your own story to write. So let’s just enjoy the real reason why we are all here… ending

this post is not directed at anyone nor do i wish to engage anyone in any dialogue or debate ...these are just my thoughts..about the topic.

There are a lots of reasons and factors to consider why they don’t want to leave the industry…. And each and every girl has her own reason why.. I agree with the GM when he said we cannot generalize. We can only assume.

First, is the normal job going to earn more? On a good day a thera can earn from 1000 to 3000 /day some even more multiply that by 30 days that’s significantly more than what a normal skilled employee working a 9 to 5 job would earn. Some might say that’s a small price compared to their dignity . Yes I agree…. But can you say that to someone who provides for the family. I think any one in their situation would do the same given the chance. Again it has been mentioned before that money is the primary motivation here. It also has something to do with the mentality na at the end of the day the money is in their pockets rather than waiting for 15/30 payday

Second, Fear of the unknown It’s a big gamble for someone to leave the industry unless she has a back up plan. What if the normal job doesn’t turn out well for her? Then what she goes back again only to find out that her regulars are not there anymore and she has to start from scratch. Age also comes in to mind too. Remember a shelf life of a thera is short .

Third, the lifestyle. It has been mentioned that some theras just go to work when they want to. That cannot be with a normal job. The friendship that they develop through out the years. They eat, sleep, hang out together day in and day out . I’m pretty sure some of them maybe even be Godparents to each others kids.

I agree some of them are “maluho” can you blame them? Barely out of their teens and forced to work by circumstance they might be just trying to enjoy and gift themselves with material things (such as gadgets, shoes, clothes make up etc) that they are only able to afford now. Besides it’s the industry that dictates that they look great and presentable. I also encountered some that have bad vices… such as going to casinos and drugs.

I also heard stories that some of them even go to gay bars.. which got me curious so I asked why aren’t you getting enough at work? One girl replied. “kasi dito kami ang pinipili pag andun kami namimili” how ironic,

They work their ass of then spending it there. Another girl said its their way of escaping from their reality… I said to my self that is so SAD…

Bottom line is these girls have had enough already. Lets not make it any harder than it already is…

To quote Miss Sitti’s words “self consuming tong job na to... araw araw may mababawas sa pagkatao mo..”

And If that does’nt affect you then I believe you have no right to live in a civilized world

It’s been sometime that I had been browsing this thread contemplating on whether to share my experience . I will be the first to admit that this thread struck a chord in my heart. And I have a soft spot for these women in this profession. Why because at one point in my life I was in madly in love with one. So whenever I come face to face with someone from this industry I make it a point to treat them with utmost respect

It happened way back in 2005, My relationship with my then GF was on the brink of falling out. I decided to go to a popular MP down south. Upon entering I saw her talking to to a manager I politely asked if she was available and she smiled and said yes… and that started it all after the service we exchanged phone numbers. A few weeks after my GF left for Europe permanently. I was left angry lonely, and tired I decided to give Emma a call and asked her out for dinner. And as the saying goes one thing led to another and we ended up spending the night together. To say the least, having just broken up with my EX a few hours ago here I was in the arms of another girl.

We started seeing each other regularly, I would pick her up from work and spend evenings with her. This went on for a couple of months more. We were enjoying each others company. Dinners , nights out, out of town trips filled the first few months. During this times she was still working . My thoughts were at that time how lucky can I get I was like wow I have a fubu at my beck and call. Of course my plans didn’t turn out the way I imagined it. Because at one point in our trips the feared L word was mentioned and we decided to see each other exclusively.

One day she said she has to transfer from her condo in QC.to an apartment in Makati. You guessed it… the Knight in shining armor in me suggested why not live together since I also work in Makati. I was having the time of my life the sex was great and it felt like she understood my needs. She would join me and my friends on out of town trips every weekend. And I would join her with her friends on nights out. To surmise my actions some of you might say “this guys nuts” yeah I have already fallen for a therapist. Yup I agree I would have probably said that if it happened to a friend. You can say I was thinking more with my smaller head and not the bigger one..

This went on for a year till I chanced upon MTC in 2006 after over hearing it from one of her girl friends. I decided to checkout MTC. During those times.. matindi mga FR. Sobrang detailed . Actually my primary fear then was, one of my friends would see her at her work place. I would also see comments about her how pretty she was or how good she was… and yes It got to me , I would be a hypocrite if I said No..My denial was at least she goes home to me but I knew deep down inside that whatever happens in that 4 corners of the room of that MP I had no control of. I just took it with a grain of salt.

Then One day out of the blue just before lunchtime she called and said that we needed to talk. So I immediately went home because I thought it was an emergency. In that conversation she said that she didn’t want to work anymore. To cut the long story short yup I said that’s good.. Money was not an issue from the start. I was providing and our lifestyle didn’t change I also gave her a substantial amount so that she could start her own business. It went well and I said to myself I’m happy with this and she was happy and we could live happily ever after. You guessed it, I spoke too soon..

2010 Our relationship started going downhill. She started getting jealous with no apparent reason whenever I’m out with my friends she would call or ask me to MMS pictures just so she would be sure that I’m really with them baseless accusations that up to this day I still have no idea why the sudden change of attitude. I’m no saint and yeah there were times that I had a few indiscretions here and there but nothing really major. I also noticed during these times the money I used to give her which I feel was more than sufficient was not enough anymore.

Fights were now a ritual every night and the sex was not as it used to be. I’m beginning to question our relationship. But still we managed to iron things out. These went on for a couple of years more constant fight and then back together. All this time we were living at BGC. Forward 2014, I remember it was just after New year. Our land lady ( a friend) called me and said that we owed her 6 mos. rent and that this has been going on since 2010 always late I was shocked because religiously I was paying rent every month I would give Emma the payment for bills which she handled ever since. It turned out she wasn’t paying the rent regularly . I confronted her that’s the time that she confessed that she was supporting her kid since 2010. It was like a shock went thru my whole body , I said to myself how can she be so stupid that she didn’t tell me she had a kid. Actually I wasn’t mad that she had one I was more mad of the deception and the dishonesty after all these years. As I cooled down a few days I finally went back to our condo and ironed things out with her. I thought that was it I said to my self I wouldn’t want to waste the years we had the ups and downs all together and still had feelings for her.

But deep down inside the trust was gone she didn’t trust me and it was the same for me too. Until one day someone sent me a photo of her with another man and it was recent. I confronted her and that was it we had a big fight blame tossing , cursing all the negatives that you can ever imagine were said. And at that moment I said “eto yun” I didn’t even say goodbye no looking back .. I left first and the guard said she left a couple of hours later and that’s the last time I saw her. It happened Jan 2015 a few days before our 10^{th year} anniversary.

I have since moved on with my life, 10 years older and a lot wiser. That relationship not only taught me to be selfless, patient and forgiving. It also taught me humility , understanding and love of ones self. It also showed me I’m capable of loving someone despite the circumstances surrounding our situation.

Do I regret it.. answer is NO

Will I do it again? Depends I wouldn’t know ,not intentionally of course…

Have I forgiven her.. Yes, and I sincerely hope she has forgiven me too

Just sharing my thoughts on this…

First heard this term in High school . Mutual understanding refers to something between friendship, courtship and a relationship but you can still see other people (not exclusively dating). The exact nature of MU is’nt clear to me ironically I can safely say the same for some couples that are in one. When there is no real commitment this kinds of set up can cause confusion and most probably pain.. it’s like saying we are together but not really..

I'm not a fan of this types of ambiguous relationships because as adults we should act and decide as adults…Some may disagree with me but this thing is for kids stuff. You are not giving yourselves the kind of honest, sincere, and secure relationship that you both deserve.

For Girls If guy is not willing to commit, he’s deserves to be omitted. You don’t need someone who can’t commit in your life. And you know what, when he meets someone who deserves his sole attention, he is going to commit.

For Guys if a girl wants this, start thinking. Is she out to exact revenge on a Ex? Are you her rebound? Is she the type of woman that you want to marry? Someone who can’t even decide whether she likes you or not. MOMOL all night then the next day you see her out with another guy..

I don’t think so you guys and girls deserve better…

Just say a simple, ‘Yes, I will,’ or ‘No, I won’t.’ Anything beyond this is from the evil one

Matthew 5:37

lies told to me.

1. I have a headache- ayaw pala sumama

2. im single.- yun pala in a relationship pa.

3. ikaw na bahala..- it means let her decide..

4. i dont mind if you have a boys night out- it means i dont trust you..

5. just tell me the truth hindi ako magagalit- and when you tell the truth they go ballistic

lies i have told

1. walang signal- turn phone off

2. malapit na - paalis palang pala...

3. sarap naman ng luto mo.-

4. I said I love you ,but i lied...

more than the harsh words .... silence tears my heart

boobs,

face

then feet if these are clean then most probably the 1 in middle is too...

#1 Don’t Get Attached

The golden rule of any Fling relationship is “not to get attached.” its easier said than done..

#2 No feelings involved

Sex is sex, and if you’re just going to have sex then you cannot talk about your feelings with each other. No sharing how bad your day was at work. or how happy you are because your team won in a basketball game. No meaningful conversations, no intimate evenings, and no crying on your shoulder. And lastly do not mistake sex with intimacy…

#3 Do not bring her home

With Fling relationships you should never bring her to your house or condo it sends wrong signals.. Do it somewhere else.

#4 What she does when she is not with you is none of your business.

Her love life is none of your business. Whoever she goes out with is none of your business because you and her are not an item. Remember that, because you have no right to be jealous. the only business you have with her is monkey business

#5 Don’t ask her to buy you anything.

Because it’s a fling relationship, you can’t ask her to buy you underwear or shirt because that’s what a girlfriend does… the only thing you can ask her to buy are condoms.. and may be some lube.. when you meet for your noontime or night time tryst..note: always practice safe sex... its going to be a big problem if you get her pregnant.

#6 Engage only in small talk No long Conversations

This goes back to the “feelings” rule, but a little more detailed. It’s difficult not to feel something for someone you sleep with, But when you talk about your interests likes and dislikes and things you have in common (besides the porn style sex) you are threading on dangerous grounds boy, you’re only making things hard on yourself. Don’t make more out of it than it really is.

#7 Don’t go out for coffee or dinner.

_{The best way to avoid those lengthy conversations and misplaced feelings, don’t “hang out.” In fact, don’t see each other often. You can also include phonecalls or Goodmorning texts If you really want a fling relationship, you’re going to have to make sure your life does not connect with hers.}

#8 Rules and guidelines must be set from the start

Before you develop a fling relationship both of you must set ground rules for each other. It’s not enough that you stick to these rules; you have to have specific rules for your individual relationship. Make sure both understand what you are getting into..

#9 Letting Go… be ready..

Let it go. If it gets too real or you start to care then end it. If you are not enjoying anymore end it

#10 Make sure to follow your rules

believe me, when you say Fling ..its almost never a fling. The both of you would have to try hard in order to not keep on crossing the boundaries you both have set…

#11 Do not be friends in facebook, twitter , instagram…etc.. etc.. because if you do your fling relationship wouldn’t last a week…

to answer TS question : if i can abide by these things i wrote then the answer would be a big yes... problem is i cant ... i like giving gifts... i like long conversations... i like going out on dinner dates...and most of all i like intimacy..

above an 8 hot and below 7 to 5 crazy... that would be my preferred wife zone...

threw a huge all nighter party at the condo that we used to live in... next day packed up my things.. and left for good...

probably not whether its in a relationship or married... i believe i karma... i wouldnt want that to happen to me...

trey member since 2006

ok… let’s begin: I’d like first to apologize, I'm not to good with words specially the ones pertaining to me.. ( nobody’s perfect) So I thought I'd throw in few basic keywords that would describe what I love to do. So here goes Travel, surprises, music, nature, sports, sunsets, long walks, beach, dinner for 2, last minute plans, open mind, photography, cars, motorcycles (big ones), outdoors, craziness, spontaneity, going out (but also staying in), sharing, simplicity, respect, down to earth, adventure, dreaming, people, casual, sense of humor, awareness. dedication, happiness, independent, nonconformist.

To Add: here are the things I'm not that INTO..... traffic, long work hours, right side of the bed, airplanes middle seat , sensitivity, jealousy, superiority (i've always believed in equality) ,endings (in whatever form it may be..) gossips, over-the-top emotions, disrespect, broken promises ,Drama Queens, THE LOOK ( when I'm trying to say something and they give you the look..!) i hate that.. I live by the day... and trying to enjoy each moment...

El Bimbo -Eraserheads :D

Lumipas ang maraming taon
'Di na tayo nagkita
Balita ko'y may anak ka na
Ngunit walang asawa

1 is my fb friend 2 are married... 1 still works for a airline 1 is based in europe 1 became a wedding singer... the last one naging PSP...lol

not really a big Adele fan so.. i guess my feeling is like this "i dont wish the best for you nor do i want to find someone like you.."

Shell helix and redline synthetic....