Bloodraven

sad fact is, as i've stated earlier - i'm not sure if they truly know what love is anymore... as it seems what they "tag" as love is nothing more than a temporary recluse from what they have deemed as normal... beyond that, i have yet to see if they are still truly capable of loving.

sad fact guys; regardless what women may say - iba ma-in love ang lalake - it may take us a while to heat-up to a serious relationship (whether gro,mpa, or normal everyday girl).... or am i just speaking for myself (lol).

my views kasi, it doesn't matter what you do and where you're from - if i love you, i love you (period). i will give you whatever my universe is capable of giving, maybe even beyond.

there's a saying, never pour all your love into that one person/relationship so that just in case it doesn't work out, you will always have something left of yourself.

---- i really wish the heart came with a gate valve-----

been there done that. fell in love, nurtured the love for 3 years, only to be left short of dead for a "richer" d.o.m....

sadly, though i would like not to refer to "all" of the women involved in this kind of business - but they often fail to recognize if it is love they are currently experiencing...

all i can say is i've tried so hard to refrain from involving myself beyond the physical, but then again - that's probably what proves to be the source of attraction on their end... you tell them 1st hand that if we go beyond a "professional" kind of relationship we might end up hurting each other immensely, but they still insist that what they feel is love... sigh...

what can i say - i'm an endless romantic

do i dare say to stand your ground and not let your emotions drive you towards these women? hell no. i for one shouldn't talk... all i am saying is that if you do decide to submit - be ready to experience the pain and the hurt that will inevitably stab you from every direction imaginable.

love may be seen by a few - but in the end, money will always be the way of the lot.

Fell victim to this really sad story... thats why I ended up in this thread....

She was slva's no. 39, jenny, joan, sweet, Abigail Reyes.... We were together for 3 years, in that span of time I nurtured her when she stopped working - she only went back into the biz last year due to her family obligations and as hard as i tried my finances could not feed the families hunger for money....

We cooled off last January 15, 2009 and only proceeded to see each other about 1-3x a week, left the house Ive learned to call my own and gave her the space she said she wanted... Lo and behold she was seeing somebody new behind my back, he was old, he was balding, he was a tad financially better than me.. When i found this out, she still confessed that she loved me with all her heart and soul and that she was going out with this bastard for money. Hence we continued to see and stay together, occassionally sleeping over the same bed we shared for 3 years every weekend.. This went on till holy week when we spent the long haitus together. She told me again and again un-end that she loved me...

Wishful thinking was that the long torment I had to go through was coming to an end... We made love over and over again that long vacation run, without thinking whether or not we were being safe with her plans.

THIS MORNING SHE TOLD ME SHE WAS PREGNANT WITH THE OLD SON OF A BITCH's CHILD!!!

I told her that it might be mine, but she said it couldn't be... I knew that this story was going to have a big ending - never thought it was going to be so negative in a cataclysmic level.

Do i wish them well? Hell no... she used me, fooled me, destroyed me... As it seems women nowadays are driven by love only for so long, in the end it always boil down to the same old story... Money will always fuel their souls...

touche Abigail, you got me... I was a fool to have loved a thing like you...

WORLD OF WARCRAFT

As long as your mom has children (you and your brothers), your uncle has no right over your mom's estate.

 

Where's your dad?

My dad's lives in the states, but is here in manila right now. My parents separated when I was 8 yo, not legally though. So I guess that would mean that my dad is entitled to handle my mom's estate right? And would that also mean that whatever document I "might" have signed is considered null and void? Really need help with this guys so that I'd know how to best proceed with whatever I have planned.

thank you, THANK you, THANK YOU!

As long as your mom has children (you and your brothers), your uncle has no right over your mom's estate.

 

Where's your dad?

My dad's lives in the states, but is here in manila right now. My parents separated when I was 8 yo, not legally though. So I guess that would mean that my dad is entitled to handle my mom's estate right? And would that also mean that whatever document I "might" have signed is considered null and void? Really need help with this guys so that I'd know how to best proceed with whatever I have planned.

thank you, THANK you, THANK YOU!

Hi just wanted to ask another question from our MTC compadres.

I would like to know the legalities concerning a parcel of land named after my mom who passed away in 1989.

As afore mentioned, the land was named after my mom and is currently in the "safe keeping" of my uncle. It's been 13 years and this parcel of land has remained in its static state. I was hoping that since the person holding the title would help in disposing the estate.

My question is that given the time, can I still reacquire the land and title seeing that it is part of my mom's estate? In the past I was made to sign various documents, and to be honest I am unsure whether or not one of those documents was to transfer the title to thier name (too trust worthy I guess, alam nyo naman ang family values dito sa pinas, trust your elders... I was 21 y.o.) and if I did, is thier anyway to disclaim having full knowledge of the content of the document?

To tell you the truth I am unknowledgeable of other things that I may need to know to reclaim the land. I am doing this for my interest as well as my brothers. Your much needed help regarding this matter would be greatly appreciated.

Great day to our lawyer friends.

A little question I'd like to post.

I'm helping out a "friend" (lets not dwell any deeper into that-hehe) with thier finances. And took it upon myslef to help pay for thier utilities and housing.

Due to "difficulties", it has been rather difficult for me to move my funds to and throw.

vague backrounder there... anyway to the problem...

As per SOP whenever renting an apartment the standard 1 month advance and 2 month deposit rule applies. So fat chance that I managed to do without that. I was told this afternoon that the landlord approached them "claiming" that they were 3 months delayed. Truth of the matter is 1 month deposit was used about 3 months ago, and rent for this month has been delayed.

My questions are:

1. Doesn't the deposit cover for any delinquency in payment?

2. If the 3 month non-payment of rent grounds for eviction, are they just trying to push it? Rent is due every 8th of the month. I haven't payed for this month so that makes it a 1 month delay plus the 1 month deposit they used up a few months ago.

3. These people charge me 8k a month but gives me a 6k reciept (because thats the price stated on the contract), what can be done about that?

4. These people issue a bogus reciept, with bogus tax numbers...

Need to know what rights I can uphold here and how to tell them diplomatically if any housing laws are being broken here without having my "friend" kicked-out on her hinnies.

Much thanks compadres....

That no matter how smart you think you are, you still end up realizing that you're the dummest lifeform on the planet....

I agree with that statement. But there are times that what makes the girl actually run around in circles mooing-off gaga, is niether the physical nor is it the psychological aesthetics but most likely the "financial" beauty of the guy. Sad but true.

Touche'

Touche'

You cannot save somebody not asking to be saved. People misunderstand these women extremely. As earlier mentioned medyo clenching the knife situation nga, but its a situation they've learned to accept.

We're talking about love here... falling in love......

you know what, sometimes we also need to take a step back and think. if we really love girls in this profession, why don't we just support them and go on with our lives? at least we have saved one girl from disaster! given that we all have money, a wrinkled dick to go with, would you think that these girls would truly love us in return? we sticked our dicks in, paid, left, returned, paid again (probably more), and now you're already expecting alot? seems like we are buying ourselves a relationship, is it not.

 

the problem with us people sometimes is that we expect too much. why cant we just help and not expect anything in return? do they have to really repay us with sex and love us too? cant we just be satisfied and have instant gratification that we have saved a soul? im not saying that you dont have to have sex with them. my point is just that if you really love someone, having an intimate relationship is really not needed. you're old, not good looking, about to die in around 10 years and you have a poor cousin. you give her a condo which is just around 10% of your total assets. do you expect her to f**k and love you at the same time?

 

just rambling...

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Hehe.. Point taken jamborat. But not to brag. I'm not ugly...I'm not old... dont have a wrinkled dick... as well as a bottomless pocket (unfortunately). When your in love your in love. You want that reciprocated (did I spell that right..lol).

Now you do have a point about selfless love. About supporting them and all. But honestly, giving them that won't same them or stop them from anything. Giving people fish is good, teaching them to fish is better. We have an old adage that goes "easy come easy go"... Give 'em easy money and they'll spend that like there's no tomorrow.

Look, I came from a pretty afluent family, but honestly, I'm pretty sure I'm still not making the same kind of dough the 40-50 y.o. dudes in this site is. I'm also pretty much aware of how much these girls actually make in a month, and well maybe they even make better money than me from time to time (business really wreaks in this country..burn BIR burn...). That's why for me to assure them of something to look forward to month in and month out would be poinant to say the least.

Am I in it for the sex? "No". I can get that whether or not I do love her.

I'm in it for the "moment". I'm in it for that sweet smile. I'm in it for that irritating sonic cackle whenever she laughs. I'm in it for everytime she calls me "sira" of "gago". I'm in it for every pound she gains because of overeating. I'm in it for the fuzzy feeling I get whenever I hear her voice.

If I'm forcing her to love me. Then that's wrong (hence the term binibili lang ang pagmamahal) If she loves me then she loves me, if she doesn't then she doesn't period. Everybody moves on.

I'm sorry to say this but I have to agree with jamborat on something though (sad that I agree on the negative point though.). If the age gap between you and the woman is substancial (as in your old enough to be her daddy) chances of real love being there is pretty slim..not saying its impossible...I'm justvsaying it's slim... example...Just like my Dad's current girl. My Dad's 53, divorced twice (my Mom included) has had 3 GFs after that and is currently dating a 24 yo intern (the girl is younger than my youngest brother for Pete's sake) Thought all along that the girl was bogus, but up to this moment they're still pretty much together and in love. Yun lang nga situation is sorta different but still....blah-blah.. kya nga im not saying its impossible...

BASTA to dwell on the situation would be juvenile. Just share and live the moment for as long as it's there. If intentions are pure and sincere from both parties, nobody has the right to judge, or tell you what to do about the relationship

You know it's nice to be amongst "real MEN" when dealing with this kind of topic. Ok, reality check, thier sex-workers (granted), but does that make them any less human? if it does, why do the people who often degrade thier "occupation" still patronize these people they consider lesser than human..

Honestly, it may be "advisable" to not fall for them, but what do you do when you do... Last time I checked human hearts do not come with an off button...

Realize and accept the situation, and if your willing to live with it, then do. I know that my girl has a lot of boys circling her like vultures, in fact during my chauffer days (whenever I take her to work) a bloody horde of phone calls flood her celfone everytime. And although it is hurtful to hear the conversation, she does have to say what she has to say to keep her "regulars" happy...( bitter pill swallowed there ).

Guess it all boils down to the fact that these women are people, who should be given the same emotional & social privileges entitled every human being. If some guys think this is pathetic, then I'm sad for you. I've had relationships with normal girls, celebrities, students, gros, and now an mpa. Are they in anyway different? Yes, but not as different as some of you might think. If society continues to stone these women for what they have done or currently doing, then there is something rong with society and not these women.

Cheers and Kudos to all of you "MEN" who've looked beyond what "BOYS" often see as the primary trait to guage a womans over-all worth.

It may be a losing cause but I do think that its a fight worth fighting. If the battle turns and we end up losing, at least we did what we could to show them that they are still human beings worth a "MAN"s love....

I so agree... Take it one day at a time. Enjoy the moment while it's there. Remember, these women have undergone (or has experienced) extreme deprivation and are overwhelmed with the money and favors they get because of you know what. So live and let live, life will go on regardless.

very true good post its a never ending cycle of lust and deception and getting hurt in the end

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Very good point.

While I can't totally disagree with the statement made. I can't agree with it 100% either. Hierarchy or sequencially aside. I think it does always start off with great sex, probably a sob story later on, but if thats what made you fall for her in the first place your going down the wrong pole baby. Honestly, in my situation, I confess that we have great sex followed by nothing more than casual conversation. Never did she told tall tales about her family/financial situation. In fact, whatever she was doing for her family wouldn't have been brought up in any way or form, until I witnessed it. What she does when she gets home, before she leaves for work... It is normal for every man to take in the role of a knight in shining armor whenever he comes across a damsel in distress. It is natural for the predatory instinct in men to find purpose to fight, hunt, persue.

To sum this all up, will this eventually end up in pain? It would be careless to say no it won't. Will it make things worse for both parties in the end? Again you've made an observation and a statement that I do believe might be true. But then again, as long as the truth is said between both parties and that both are willing to persue the relationship regardless of the outcome then go for it. Fight for it. Learn to live after it.

In my current situation, I can say right now that I truly love her... whether the feeling dtill stands tomorrow, next week or next month nobody can truly say. As the old adage goes " Forever stands only as long as the moment." I've been open and honest, and I hope that she is the same towards me (wishful thinking, I know.) But I am not keeping my hopes that high. I will guide her, support her, and love her while she wants me to do so. And when it's, or if, it's all over. I will make sure that I'm still around if not as her lover, as her friend.

50fd great words.

Honestly, I can relate to Viz888 because I'm currently undergoing the same "situation". Never thought it would happen. Didn't want it to happen. That's why I'd go to thier respective places of work to have some fun with no strings attached. But then.. without warning.. WHAM!

All the things you've pointed out are true if not accurate. That's why although I've totally lost my mind over this lady, Im just letting each day pass one day at a time. Don't really know how far this here road is going to take me but then again is anybody really sure of thier chosen route in this little hell hole called life.

Yes, the frequent FRs you get to read on the side (when ur girls mentioned) does sting, especially when they are regarded with so little respect by such infantile males who call themselves men, and yes, these girls are really only doing all this for thier family (at least mine is). If you only get to see how they've sacrificed themselves for thier families well being..talaga it will blow you away. That's why I still regard her as a person "working" hard for love of family.

Her insecurities regarding how serious I am will always be there given your earlier point, but then again, believing will only be up to her. Believe it or not since I started seeing her outside of work, never had I asked her for sex, guess I got passed that. sheesh...

I don't know how long this relationship will last if it will anyway. But one things for sure. While we're together I will love her. Support her. And teach her about life. So that whatever may become of us, she can look back and remember that once long ago I geved her something that she thought she had already forsaken in return for her family's well being.

The honest, repectful, sincere and warmth of a mans love.