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  1. wrong on division by zero.

     

    rational terms involving a 0/0 at some x = a is not uncommon....The limit of that rational term at that point is easily obtained by L'Hopital's rule.

     

    and any polynomial expression which will not reduce to 0 for all values of x when divided by 0 will result to infinity, positive or negative depending on the value of the polynomial expression...

     

     

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    wrong on statistics of lotto.

     

    probabilities of winning are INDEPENDENT of the number of bettors. these are dependent ONLY on 2 things:

    a. no. of numbers to choose from

    b. no. of numbers that would make a bet.

     

    it is the AMOUNT OF MONEY or POT that is dependent on the number of bettors...

     

    usually, lottery bodies have an automated system to adjust winnings depending on the bets collected...

    hmmn. i think i got some back up here.

  2. I think this is a thread that allows us to exercise our thinking skills, not our debating nor fighting skills. Generating solutions is the goal, not determining who has a bigger ego.

     

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    Regarding "langis at tubig na binate", add an emulsifier and it will mix! Example: the surfactants in detergent permit the mixing of oil with water.

     

    Life is not always black and white. The enjoyment is in the search for DIFFERENT solutions.

     

    Peace People!

    I agree with floppydrive.

     

    And before somebody will MOVE to close this thread again, i would like to correct and elaborate my last solution.

     

    whereby:

     

    the general eqn would look like this:

     

    (n-2)+2+n = 1^(n-2)*n

     

    it should read like this:

     

     

    (n-2) + 2 + n = 1^(n-2) * 2 * n

     

     

    where (n-2) should be expanded as: 1 + 1 + ... + 1

     

    wherefore: 1^(n-2) = 1^(1+1+1+...+1) = 1*1*1*...*1 where the # of term is equal to (n-2).

     

    to illustrate: (example problem) : find the the solution where the sum = product of a say, 12 numbers.

     

    solution: let n=12

     

    (n-2) + 2 + n = 1^(n-2) * 2 * n

     

    (10) + 2 + 12 = 1^10 * 2 * 12

     

    1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+2+10 = 1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*2*10 = 24

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    i move that this thread be closed!

    at first I thought your question was meant to put an end to this thread. but wait, to answer your question, yes there are.

     

    obvious one, 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 = 0 * 0 * 0 * 0

     

    another : 1 + 1 + 2 + 4 = 1 * 1 * 2 * 4 = 8

     

     

    and this continues....

     

     

    for 5 numbers:

     

    1+1+1+2+5=1*1*1*2*5 = 10

     

     

    for 6 numbers,

     

    1+1+1+1+2+6 = 1*1*1*1*2*6 = 12

     

    so on and so forth:

     

    the general eqn would look like this:

     

    (n-2)+2+n = 1^(n-2)*n

  4. Two probable answers:

     

    1. If onlly you are to carry the beer, you'll need a total of three trips. 6 on the first, 6 on the second, and 2 on the last.

     

    2. If this is a trick question, why would I carry all of the beer ten meters away and make three trips when I can ask a couple of my friends to help me carry the rest of the bottles?

     

    On a serious note: Please take it easy boys. Take your Fight to the Club...

    more so, you can put the 14bottles of beer in a bucket and ask the waiter to carry it for you. hehehe sabi ko na nga ba pang jokes and more tong tanong eh.

  5. quintix: bago ka kasi sabat ng sabat basahin mo muna ang history ng tanong. basically, ang buod ng tanong ko eh. paano ma-derive ang 1:5.3million chance na lumabas ang isang 6- number combination from a 42 balls lotto draw. yung ibang tanong any nag sanga sanga nalang. nasagot naman yung general formula. ewan ko sayo bakit napunta sa number of bettors and pinagsasabi mo. ang punto ko d2 kung ikaw ang tumaya sa lotto (assuming 1 bet lang) ang chance mo manalo at 1:5.3million. mag isa kaman tumaya o isang million kayong tumaya. totally independent yun.

  6. Kung ang tanong eh probability na dalawang tao manalo sa isang draw, kailangan natin malaman kung ilan ang tumataya at kung ilang number ang tinataya nung bawat isa.

     

    For example kung isa lang ang tumataya, kahit ano gawin mo hindi dalawa ang mananalo. Kung dalawa ang tumataya, silang dalawa ang dapat manalo. Kung tatlo ang tumataya, you have to add the possibilities na kung sinong dalawa sa tatlo ang mananalo. Kasama pa sa model mo yung kung ilang number ang tinataya nung bawat isa... there are two levels of complexity here, yung personal odds of winning nung bawat individual and the number of winners... there are two random variables at work here.

     

    Anyway, mahabang usapan talaga ang probability atsaka yung mga 'in how many ways'. The most crucial part is kung nagkakaintindihan kung ano ba ang tanong.

     

    This is not the right place for questions like this.. patulan na lang nating yung beer bottle problem, ok?

    salamat sa advice mo. nasagot na yung tanong ko. ibig sabihin naintindihan nung sumagot. mag aral ka muna nng statistics bago ka kwento ng kwento. sa UP ka mag aral ha.

     

    yung beer problems para yun sa puzzles doon sa JOKES SECTION.

  7. External 2.5 HDD casing uses a notebook harddisk while the 3.5 HDD casing uses the desktop HDD, so the phyiscal size is smaller and lighter, price wise of the HDD notebook is much expensive than a desktop HDD. But Desktop HDD have a faster speed, 72k rpm unlike notebook hdd 42k/54k rpm only.

    thank you for the clarifications.

  8. i need help. what is the differnece between External 2.5 Mobile HDD case USB2 &

    External 3.5 HDD case USB2? can this be used with ordinary HDD to become a portable external drive. you see im trying to look for a cheap external drive and a friend suggested that maybe i could use extra internal HDD and just buy an HDD case but i found 2 different model so now im confused.

  9. Im not a lawyer too.

     

    Before you do some legal actions. Do the 4-way test.

     

    Just want to react to the previous post. Why hold her departure? The fact that you allowed her to work abroad like japan, means to me that you gambled either to win or lose. Now obviously, you lost. I believed she's the bread winner not just to your family but for her family. Can you give what the japanese can give her and her family? Play another game bro.

  10. Oops, I did miss something.

     

    42!/36! gives all the unique combinations of the 6 numbers out of 42, but the numbers have to be picked at the exact order.

     

    Since lotto allows us the combination of the 6 numbers in any order, we have to divide it by the number of possible combinations of the 6 numbers.

     

    So it should be:

     

    42!/36!

    -------- = 5,245,786

    6!

     

    or 1 chance in 5,245,786

     

    since we are after the inverse,

     

    6!

    -------- = 0.000,000,190,629

    42!/36!

     

    or 0.0000190629 % probability

    or 0.190629ppm

     

    Sheesh - in a production system, that's close to impossible!

     

    So it must be true - winning the lotto is an act of GOD ...

    Ok doki. so, For philippine lotto draws. the probability of winnning is

     

     

    (L-6)! 6! / W*L! where W is no. of winners, L = lotto game i.e. 42, 45 & 49.

  11. I think the numbers are getting confusing. I think it's just a matter of interpretation like specific gravity and density - it means the same relationship but read in different ways.

     

    The chances for one winner is higher than for multiple winners - this we agree.

     

    But it can be seen from the equations I wrote that this is so:

     

    For one winner he has a 1 in 5.3 million chance.

     

    For two winners, there is a 1 in 10.6 million chance. So the there really is a slimmer chance of having multiple winners.

     

    The numbers are growing but it is in the interpretation that we differed.

     

    This is the same as your equation which is the reciprocal. :blush:

    okey. but then again, the eqn 42!/36! = 3,776,965,920. i believe you missed out something.

  12. Dati casual smoker lang ako pero ngayon halos nakakadalawang kaha na ako lalo na habang nakaharap ako sa PC. im startin to ITCH all over and im always nauseated. am i developing cancer? CAN you give me tips on how to quit this habit? im clueless.

    How to quit?

     

    Get a girlfriend who smokes. If you like her breath then smoking is maybe for you. Now try this: have her smoke it down there. then taste it... if you still like it, Smoking is your way of life. Dont quit! you will die.

     

    I knew 5 people who after quiting to smoke died after a year or two due to smoking related diseases. Dont quit you will still die.

     

    Lately, i decided to quit smoking. i thought i had the smart idea of going to the gym. but fukc the hell, last night upon going home i saw the FTs smoking. so its okey not to quit. So long as i can do the HIIT for 15mins. No need to quit. its just my idea.

  13. Hindi ba dapat i avoid nga yung coffee.Kasi as for me,coffee was the culprit kaya nag trigger yung migraine ko. Sabi rin ng Dr. na tinanung ko also avoid the ff:Chocolates,alchoholic drinks (hindi ako pwede ng wala yan),staying up late,nuts to name a few. :ninja: :D

    coffee triggers some migraine, but during migraine, coffee cures the migaine. yes it is a wonder.

     

     

    SLEEP ( i dont drink coffee) or just close your eyes to avoid lights. this is what i do because my migraine is often triggered by some kind of lights.

  14. oh yes, you are right I think we share the same view that the chance of any person to win a lotto draw is the same assuming everybody has the same number of bets. It is also true that the chance of a single winner in a draw is higher than the chance of multiple winners. But your eqn says otherwise, the more winner the bigger the chance. I think it should be the reciprocal.

     

    1

    ------------- or 6! where n = the number of winners

    n* 42! ----------

    ------- n*42!

    6!

     

    but on the other hand, according to some experts the one's chance to win a 6/42 lotto draw is 1 is to 5.3 million, because there are approximately 5.3 million possible combinations for the 6/42 lotto. this means you need at least 53million pesos to bet for you to be a sure winner. Now, I can not derived these figures from your eqns. Any more thoughts?

     

    (off the record, oh yes i'm from jakarta :rolleyes: :rolleyes: )

    Sorry for the mess! What you see is not what you get. This is the edited post.

     

     

    oh yes, you are right I think we share the same view that the chance of any person to win a lotto draw is the same assuming everybody has the same number of bets. It is also true that the chance of a single winner in a draw is higher than the chance of multiple winners. But your eqn says otherwise, the more winner the bigger the chance. I think it should be the reciprocal.

     

    1

    -------------

    n* 42!

    -------

    6!

     

    or

     

    6!

    ---------

    n*42!

     

     

    where n = the number of winners

     

     

     

    but on the other hand, according to some experts the one's chance to win a 6/42 lotto draw is 1 is to 5.3 million, because there are approximately 5.3 million possible combinations for the 6/42 lotto. this means you need at least 53million pesos to bet for you to be a sure winner. Now, I can not derived these figures from your eqns. Any more thoughts?

     

    (off the record, oh yes i'm from jakarta :rolleyes: :rolleyes: )

  15. I thought the question was what is the probability of 2 people winning the lotto on the same draw. If my understanding is correct, the chances for 2 people winning at the same time becomes slimmer than for one person winning it.

     

    one person has a one in 42!/36! chance of winning the draw.

     

    two people winning at the same time is one chance in 2*42!/36! to occur.

     

    The above is from the perspective of the lotto organizer, checking what are the chance of having multiple winners.

     

    Let's now take it from the perspective of the chances of ONE person winning.

     

    For him or her to win, he or she has to choose the correct 6 numbers out of 42. It doesn't matter how many people enter, becuase what matters is for the entrant to get all 6 numbers correct.

     

    If we examine the probability of one person winning, the equation is still 42!/36!, regardless of the number of people entering the lotto. I would assume that a person's chance of winning is the same. He would receive a smaller sum, but his chances are still the same.

     

    What do you think, Sir Boy?

     

    Off topic, your picture looks very familiar... Are you from Jakarta? :D

    oh yes, you are right I think we share the same view that the chance of any person to win a lotto draw is the same assuming everybody has the same number of bets. It is also true that the chance of a single winner in a draw is higher than the chance of multiple winners. But your eqn says otherwise, the more winner the bigger the chance. I think it should be the reciprocal.

     

    1

    ------------- or 6! where n = the number of winners

    n* 42! ----------

    ------- n*42!

    6!

     

    but on the other hand, according to some experts the one's chance to win a 6/42 lotto draw is 1 is to 5.3 million, because there are approximately 5.3 million possible combinations for the 6/42 lotto. this means you need at least 53million pesos to bet for you to be a sure winner. Now, I can not derived these figures from your eqns. Any more thoughts?

     

    (off the record, oh yes i'm from jakarta :rolleyes: :rolleyes: )

  16. 6/42 lotto:

     

    For n person(s), the chances of getting the 6 numbers are:

    n * 42*41*40*39*38*37 = n*42!/36!

     

    so for 1 person it's 42!/36!, for 2 people, it's 2*42!/36!, etc.

     

    6/45 lotto:

     

    For n person(s), the chances of getting the 6 numbers are:

    n * 45*44*43*42*41*40 = n*45!/39!

     

    6/49 lotto:

     

    For n person(s), the chances of getting the 6 numbers are:

    n * 49*48*47*46*45*44 = n*49!/43!

     

    For lotto 6/X, where X is the number of numbers to choose from, and n is the number of winners for the same draw, the general equation is:

     

     

    n * X!/(X-6)!

    hmmn. i believe something is wrong with your equations. for 1 thing, the chance or probabity of one person in winning a lottery decreases as the numbers of winners increases. wat u think?

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