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I saw this topic and wanted to read about the point of views of thera/mpa/gro ladies in MTC, kaso ang GM's pa rin lamang dito sa mga posts at comments. Guys konting respeto naman sa ladies, wag naman mag post dito kung balak niyo lang gawin tong thread about your own point of view. This topic was purposely created for the Thera's/MPA's ladies to share their own experiences. Sabi nga ni mod na sila ang bida dito. GM's meron din tayo similar topic falling for a thera why not post there instead, nawala na kasi sa purpose itong topic ang haba pa ng mga comments.

Contrary to what you think, I believe some of us just wanted to defend these girls from those guys who mock them here. I don't see any disrespect on that. It's not that we want to own these thread, may mga ibang nga lang kasi dito na mapanghamak.

Pero if forum rules ang paguusapan, I guess tama ka. Dapat nga doon mag post sa kabila.

Number 1. I'm not saying they don't deserve love. I'm saying that because of that job, they are already stigmatized and have become social pariahs. That's the reality they have to deal with. Anybody can go ahead and say that it's stereotyping all of that, but that's how society views people in this line of work isn't it? Remember, we live in a country that is culturally, molded to live our lives by the Catholic Church and its values. And according to the Church, what these girls do is against those rules and is considered sinful. I am totally 99% sure and i've only confirmed this with some therapists that i know exclusively, that they keep their jobs to their loved ones, parents, kids and others a secret. They know that once their families find out they will be forever looked upon differently and that won't change. Will the guest, go to all the trouble of letting his family and her family that he met their daughter at this joint and tell them honestly that she pleasures numerous men everyday? Is the guy willing to go through all that stigma, become a social pariah himself? I'm just simplifying it, between going through all that trouble, emotionally, physically, mentally. I'd rather be with a person not in this type of situation and make it easier for myself than go to all that trouble. In short, I'm just stating what the guy will have to go through in order to make it work as opposed to the other option.

>>> Oo tama ka na that's how MOST PEOPLE OF THE SOCIETY view people in this line of work. At doon nga kasi may pagkakamali ang karamihan. Masyadong nadala sa STEREOTYPING dahil HINDI NA KELANGAN MAG-ISIP, HINDI NA KELANGAN INTINIDIHIN pa ang mga babae na nasa ganitong sitwasyon. Doon nag-AGREE ang karamihan sa mga tao, kaya doon na lang din ako kasi mas madali iyon. Mas konti pa ang kokontra sa akin. BAWAS SAKIT SA ULO.

>>> Oo nga we live in a country that is culturally molded to live our lives by the Catholic Church and its values. And according to the Church, what these girls do is against those rules and is considered sinful. BUT THAT DIDN'T PREVENT SOME PEOPLE TO ACCEPT THESE GIRLS. SABI NGA NUNG ISANG GUY SA KABILANG THREAD, SOME PEOPLE ARE MORE ACCEPTING THAN OTHERS.

>>> Kung hindi ako nagkakamali ng pag-intindi, you are only 99% sure. And that 99% only belongs to those SOME THERAPISTS that you exclusively know. So how about those therapists that I exclusively know? I am also totally 99% sure na they are UPFRONT ON THE JOB THAT THEY ARE DOING TO THEIR LOVED ONES. WHY? BECAUSE SILA NA NGA LANG ANG PEDE MONG PAGKATIWALAAN SA MUNDONG ITO DAHIL SILA ANG MAS NAKAKAINTINDI SAYO AT MAY CONCERN SAYO, TAPOS MAGSISINUNGALING KA PA SA KANILA? AGAIN, SOME PEOPLE ARE MORE ACCEPTING THAN OTHERS. AND SOME OF THESE WOULD CHOOSE TO TELL THE TRUTH TO THEIR LOVED ONES, AND CHOOSE TO KEEP IT TO THOSE NA HINDI IMPORTANTE SA KANILA. TO TELL NA "THEY WILL BE FOREVER LOOKED UPON DIFFERENTLY & THAT WON'T CHANGE" IS TOO GENERAL. BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE CAN LOOK AT UPON THEM DIFFERENTLY, BUT IN AN ACCEPTING WAY.

>>> Yes, some guests will willingly go the trouble of letting their families, etc. etc. If I see that the GOOD IN THESE GIRLS is WORTH TAKING the BAD IN THEM, then why would I not tell my family etc. etc. about her and her work? But syempre, may cases na ayaw din nga ng girl ipaalam, so ang kelangan nyo dito is MUTUAL AGREEMENT - most likely kung alin ang makakabuti. And yung MAKAKABUTI na iyon eh hindi pdeng i-GENERALIZE. Hindi porke ganito ganyan ang trabaho, wala nang tatanggap sa kanila. I do understand that you are just concerned (THANK YOU FOR THAT) with some of these guys not to get into complex situations such as this. But there are certain, few number of men, who would willingly accept all the burden that will come along in this complicated situation - thus ACCEPTING THE STIGMA. I leave the reasons to them na lang.

Number 2. I am merely stating the social views of people towards the women who work these types of jobs. And you made a generalized statement that regular girls will do the same things that therapists would do. I don't think so. I don't see regular girls pleasuring men every hour or every 2 hours of everyday. Not to mention different kinds of men as you pointed out. Unless the regular girl you speak of has some form of medical condition of being addicted to it, i just don't see these regular girls doing the same thing the therapists would be doing on a daily basis. These regular girls I believe have other things on their daily activities than what these therapists do.

>>> And tama ka, the REGULAR GIRL I was speaking of is the kind of girl who f#&ks a guy because she likes to f#&k (without money as an exchange - but a BOOST IN THEIR EGOS). I'm sorry kung hindi ko na-elaborate nang husto.

Number 3.This doesn't make sense. What was the purpose of going there in the first place if you paid for a massage but not really going there to get a massage? Because you want to "create an environment where this girl would feel that she's not doing her job? How is she supposed to do that with her being naked while massaging you and stroking you? I would totally comprehend this if you were eating out or she is not at her job and you guys talking but if you were with her while she is at work then its impossible to "create" that environment you're talking about. If you went there to try to do that then she has you hook line and sinker already. You have wasted your money by making the spa richer and she has already got the tip in the bag at the end of that 1 hour environment you want to make by letting her "reveal her true self"

>>> Well their are cases na some of these girls would not allow you to see them outside their workplace. For what reasons?

1. They don't know that guy yet.

2. I have this rule not to see guests outside of work.

3. I don't like him.

4. etc. etc.

And take note, there certain guys who pay just to SIMPLY SPEND TIME with these girls. Ibig sabihin noon, para lang makasama, makausap, at makilala pa nila yung babae. Some men willingly pay just to do that. Eh ano nga naman ba ang magagawa nila kung walang tiwala sa kanila yung babae. In the first, tama nga naman yung mga girls, nagpunta sila sa ganitong lugar, syempre expected nila na these guys are not looking for anything serious. And para naman dun sa mga guys, if you know that your intentions are real and sincere, then ikaw na ang mag-adjust para doon sa babae. It will take a lot of PATIENCE, CONSISTENCY and PERSEVERANCE on your part though kung gusto mong mabago ang tingin nila sayo. But still, you are lucky if you come across a girl who is MORE ACCEPTING THAN OTHERS.

Yeah it's great not to see these women working in this kind of environment or this environment shouldn't exist at all. But gaya ng isang CORRUPT GOVERNMENT, hindi madaling burahin ang ganitong INDUSTRY. It's the oldest profession the world has and considering our that our country is still in a THIRD WORLD status - a substantial amount of people don't live good lives.

To Mr. Louis Roederer, I understand your concerns. Ako rin naman, alam ko na hindi madali ang pumasok sa ganitong sitwasyon. But gaya nga ng sinabi, may iba lang kasi talaga na mas WILLING sumabak sa ganitong mga bagay. If ang payo mo sa mga guys is wag ng simulan kasi mahirap nga talaga, siguro ang maipapayo ko na lang sa mga guys na nakapag-simula na (at walang pang balak sumuko at the moment), just think if this situation is slowly destroying you as a person. Kung nagloloko ka na sa buhay dahil hindi mo na alam ang gagawin eh tingin ko nga dapat ka nang tumigil. But if you can still go through life's challenges while simultaneously taking this kind of situation into account, then good luck.

Number 1. I'm not saying they don't deserve love. I'm saying that because of that job, they are already stigmatized and have become social pariahs. That's the reality they have to deal with. Anybody can go ahead and say that it's stereotyping all of that, but that's how society views people in this line of work isn't it? Remember, we live in a country that is culturally, molded to live our lives by the Catholic Church and its values. And according to the Church, what these girls do is against those rules and is considered sinful. I am totally 99% sure and i've only confirmed this with some therapists that i know exclusively, that they keep their jobs to their loved ones, parents, kids and others a secret. They know that once their families find out they will be forever looked upon differently and that won't change. Will the guest, go to all the trouble of letting his family and her family that he met their daughter at this joint and tell them honestly that she pleasures numerous men everyday? Is the guy willing to go through all that stigma, become a social pariah himself? I'm just simplifying it, between going through all that trouble, emotionally, physically, mentally. I'd rather be with a person not in this type of situation and make it easier for myself than go to all that trouble. In short, I'm just stating what the guy will have to go through in order to make it work as opposed to the other option.

>>> Oo tama ka na that's how MOST PEOPLE OF THE SOCIETY views people in this line of work. At doon nga kasi may pagkakamali ang karamihan. Masyadong nadala sa STEREOTYPING dahil HINDI NA KELANGAN MAG-ISIP, HINDI NA KELANGAN INTINIDIHIN pa ang mga babae na nasa ganitong sitwasyon. Doon nag-AGREE ang karamihan sa mga tao, kaya doon na lang din ako kasi mas madali iyon. Mas konti pa ang kokontra sa akin. BAWAS SAKIT SA ULO.

>>> Oo nga we live in a country that is culturally molded to live our lives by the Catholic Church and its values. And according to the Church, what these girls do is against those rules and is considered sinful. BUT THAT DIDN'T PREVENT SOME PEOPLE TO ACCEPT THESE GIRLS. SABI NGA NUNG ISANG GUY SA KABILANG THREAD, SOME PEOPLE ARE MORE ACCEPTING THAN OTHERS.

>>> Kung hindi ako nagkakamali ng pag-intindi, you are only 99% sure. And that 99% only belongs to those SOME THERAPISTS that you exclusively know. So how about those therapists that I exclusively know? I am also totally 99% sure na they are UPFRONT ON THE JOB THAT THEY ARE DOING TO THEIR LOVED ONES. WHY? BECAUSE SILA NA NGA LANG ANG PEDE MONG PAGKATIWALAAN SA MUNDONG ITO DAHIL SILA ANG MAS NAKAKAINTINDI SAYO AT MAY CONCERN SAYO, TAPOS MAGSISINUNGALING KA PA SA KANILA? AGAIN, SOME PEOPLE ARE MORE ACCEPTING THAN OTHERS. AND SOME OF THESE WOULD CHOOSE TO TELL THE TRUTH TO THEIR LOVED ONES, AND CHOOSE TO KEEP IT TO THOSE NA HINDI IMPORTANTE SA KANILA. TO TELL NA "THEY WILL BE FOREVER LOOKED UPON DIFFERENTLY & THAT WON'T CHANGE" IS TOO GENERAL. BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE CAN LOOK AT UPON THEM DIFFERENTLY, BUT IN AN ACCEPTING WAY.

>>> Yes, some guests will willingly go the trouble of letting their families, etc. etc. If I see that the GOOD IN THESE GIRLS is WORTH TAKING the BAD IN THEM, then why would I not tell my family etc. etc. about her and her work? But syempre, may cases na ayaw din nga ng girl ipaalam, so ang kelangan nyo dito is MUTUAL AGREEMENT - most likely kung alin ang makakabuti. And yung MAKAKABUTI na iyon eh hindi pdeng i-GENERALIZE. Hindi porke ganito ganyan ang trabaho, wala nang tatanggap sa kanila. I do understand that you are just concerned (THANK YOU FOR THAT) with some of these guys not to get into complex situations such as this. But there are certain, few number of men, who would willingly accept all the burden that will come along in this complicated situation - thus ACCEPTING THE STIGMA. I leave the reasons to them na lang.

Number 2. I am merely stating the social views of people towards the women who work these types of jobs. And you made a generalized statement that regular girls will do the same things that therapists would do. I don't think so. I don't see regular girls pleasuring men every hour or every 2 hours of everyday. Not to mention different kinds of men as you pointed out. Unless the regular girl you speak of has some form of medical condition of being addicted to it, i just don't see these regular girls doing the same thing the therapists would be doing on a daily basis. These regular girls I believe have other things on their daily activities than what these therapists do.

>>> And tama ka, the REGULAR GIRL I was speaking of is the kind of girl who f#&ks a guy because she likes to f#&k (without money as an exchange - but a BOOST IN THEIR EGOS). I'm sorry kung hindi ko na-elaborate nang husto.

Number 3.This doesn't make sense. What was the purpose of going there in the first place if you paid for a massage but not really going there to get a massage? Because you want to "create an environment where this girl would feel that she's not doing her job? How is she supposed to do that with her being naked while massaging you and stroking you? I would totally comprehend this if you were eating out or she is not at her job and you guys talking but if you were with her while she is at work then its impossible to "create" that environment you're talking about. If you went there to try to do that then she has you hook line and sinker already. You have wasted your money by making the spa richer and she has already got the tip in the bag at the end of that 1 hour environment you want to make by letting her "reveal her true self"

>>> Well their are cases na some of these girls would not allow you to see them outside their workplace. For what reasons?

1. They don't know that guy yet.

2. I have this rule not to see guests outside of work.

3. I don't like him.

4. etc. etc.

And take note, there certain guys who pay just to SIMPLY SPEND TIME with these girls. Ibig sabihin noon, para lang makasama, makausap, at makilala pa nila yung babae. Some men willingly pay just to do that. Eh ano nga naman ba ang magagawa nila kung walang tiwala sa kanila yung babae. In the first, tama nga naman yung mga girls, nagpunta sila sa ganitong lugar, syempre expected nila na these guys are not looking for anything serios. And para naman dun sa mga guys, if you know that your intentions are real and sincere, then ikaw na ang mag-adjust para doon sa babae. It will take a lot of PATIENCE, CONSISTENCY and PERSEVERANCE on your part though kung gusto mong mabago ang tingin nila sayo. But still, you are lucky if you come across a girl who is MORE ACCEPTING THAN OTHERS.

To Mr. Number 1. I'm not saying they don't deserve love. I'm saying that because of that job, they are already stigmatized and have become social pariahs. That's the reality they have to deal with. Anybody can go ahead and say that it's stereotyping all of that, but that's how society views people in this line of work isn't it? Remember, we live in a country that is culturally, molded to live our lives by the Catholic Church and its values. And according to the Church, what these girls do is against those rules and is considered sinful. I am totally 99% sure and i've only confirmed this with some therapists that i know exclusively, that they keep their jobs to their loved ones, parents, kids and others a secret. They know that once their families find out they will be forever looked upon differently and that won't change. Will the guest, go to all the trouble of letting his family and her family that he met their daughter at this joint and tell them honestly that she pleasures numerous men everyday? Is the guy willing to go through all that stigma, become a social pariah himself? I'm just simplifying it, between going through all that trouble, emotionally, physically, mentally. I'd rather be with a person not in this type of situation and make it easier for myself than go to all that trouble. In short, I'm just stating what the guy will have to go through in order to make it work as opposed to the other option.

>>> Oo tama ka na that's how MOST PEOPLE OF THE SOCIETY views people in this line of work. At doon nga kasi may pagkakamali ang karamihan. Masyadong nadala sa STEREOTYPING dahil HINDI NA KELANGAN MAG-ISIP, HINDI NA KELANGAN INTINIDIHIN pa ang mga babae na nasa ganitong sitwasyon. Doon nag-AGREE ang karamihan sa mga tao, kaya doon na lang din ako kasi mas madali iyon. Mas konti pa ang kokontra sa akin. BAWAS SAKIT SA ULO.

>>> Oo nga we live in a country that is culturally molded to live our lives by the Catholic Church and its values. And according to the Church, what these girls do is against those rules and is considered sinful. BUT THAT DIDN'T PREVENT SOME PEOPLE TO ACCEPT THESE GIRLS. SABI NGA NUNG ISANG GUY SA KABILANG THREAD, SOME PEOPLE ARE MORE ACCEPTING THAN OTHERS.

>>> Kung hindi ako nagkakamali ng pag-intindi, you are only 99% sure. And that 99% only belongs to those SOME THERAPISTS that you exclusively know. So how about those therapists that I exclusively know? I am also totally 99% sure na they are UPFRONT ON THE JOB THAT THEY ARE DOING TO THEIR LOVED ONES. WHY? BECAUSE SILA NA NGA LANG ANG PEDE MONG PAGKATIWALAAN SA MUNDONG ITO DAHIL SILA ANG MAS NAKAKAINTINDI SAYO AT MAY CONCERN SAYO, TAPOS MAGSISINUNGALING KA PA SA KANILA? AGAIN, SOME PEOPLE ARE MORE ACCEPTING THAN OTHERS. AND SOME OF THESE WOULD CHOOSE TO TELL THE TRUTH TO THEIR LOVED ONES, AND CHOOSE TO KEEP IT TO THOSE NA HINDI IMPORTANTE SA KANILA. TO TELL NA "THEY WILL BE FOREVER LOOKED UPON DIFFERENTLY & THAT WON'T CHANGE" IS TOO GENERAL. BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE CAN LOOK AT UPON THEM DIFFERENTLY, BUT IN AN ACCEPTING WAY.

>>> Yes, some guests will willingly go the trouble of letting their families, etc. etc. If I see that the GOOD IN THESE GIRLS is WORTH TAKING the BAD IN THEM, then why would I not tell my family etc. etc. about her and her work? But syempre, may cases na ayaw din nga ng girl ipaalam, so ang kelangan nyo dito is MUTUAL AGREEMENT - most likely kung alin ang makakabuti. And yung MAKAKABUTI na iyon eh hindi pdeng i-GENERALIZE. Hindi porke ganito ganyan ang trabaho, wala nang tatanggap sa kanila. I do understand that you are just concerned (THANK YOU FOR THAT) with some of these guys not to get into complex situations such as this. But there are certain, few number of men, who would willingly accept all the burden that will come along in this complicated situation - thus ACCEPTING THE STIGMA. I leave the reasons to them na lang.

Number 2. I am merely stating the social views of people towards the women who work these types of jobs. And you made a generalized statement that regular girls will do the same things that therapists would do. I don't think so. I don't see regular girls pleasuring men every hour or every 2 hours of everyday. Not to mention different kinds of men as you pointed out. Unless the regular girl you speak of has some form of medical condition of being addicted to it, i just don't see these regular girls doing the same thing the therapists would be doing on a daily basis. These regular girls I believe have other things on their daily activities than what these therapists do.

>>> And tama ka, the REGULAR GIRL I was speaking of is the kind of girl who f#&ks a guy because she likes to f#&k (without money as an exchange - but a BOOST IN THEIR EGOS). I'm sorry kung hindi ko na-elaborate nang husto.

Number 3.This doesn't make sense. What was the purpose of going there in the first place if you paid for a massage but not really going there to get a massage? Because you want to "create an environment where this girl would feel that she's not doing her job? How is she supposed to do that with her being naked while massaging you and stroking you? I would totally comprehend this if you were eating out or she is not at her job and you guys talking but if you were with her while she is at work then its impossible to "create" that environment you're talking about. If you went there to try to do that then she has you hook line and sinker already. You have wasted your money by making the spa richer and she has already got the tip in the bag at the end of that 1 hour environment you want to make by letting her "reveal her true self"

>>> Well their are cases na some of these girls would not allow you to see them outside their workplace. For what reasons?

1. They don't know that guy yet.

2. I have this rule not to see guests outside of work.

3. I don't like him.

4. etc. etc.

And take note, there certain guys who pay just to SIMPLY SPEND TIME with these girls. Ibig sabihin noon, para lang makasama, makausap, at makilala pa nila yung babae. Some men willingly pay just to do that. Eh ano nga naman ba ang magagawa nila kung walang tiwala sa kanila yung babae. In the first, tama nga naman yung mga girls, nagpunta sila sa ganitong lugar, syempre expected nila na these guys are not looking for anything serios. And para naman dun sa mga guys, if you know that your intentions are real and sincere, then ikaw na ang mag-adjust para doon sa babae. It will take a lot of PATIENCE, CONSISTENCY and PERSEVERANCE on your part though kung gusto mong mabago ang tingin nila sayo. But still, you are lucky if you come across a girl who is MORE ACCEPTING THAN OTHERS.

To Mr. Number 1. I'm not saying they don't deserve love. I'm saying that because of that job, they are already stigmatized and have become social pariahs. That's the reality they have to deal with. Anybody can go ahead and say that it's stereotyping all of that, but that's how society views people in this line of work isn't it? Remember, we live in a country that is culturally, molded to live our lives by the Catholic Church and its values. And according to the Church, what these girls do is against those rules and is considered sinful. I am totally 99% sure and i've only confirmed this with some therapists that i know exclusively, that they keep their jobs to their loved ones, parents, kids and others a secret. They know that once their families find out they will be forever looked upon differently and that won't change. Will the guest, go to all the trouble of letting his family and her family that he met their daughter at this joint and tell them honestly that she pleasures numerous men everyday? Is the guy willing to go through all that stigma, become a social pariah himself? I'm just simplifying it, between going through all that trouble, emotionally, physically, mentally. I'd rather be with a person not in this type of situation and make it easier for myself than go to all that trouble. In short, I'm just stating what the guy will have to go through in order to make it work as opposed to the other option.

>>> Oo tama ka na that's how MOST PEOPLE OF THE SOCIETY views people in this line of work. At doon nga kasi may pagkakamali ang karamihan. Masyadong nadala sa STEREOTYPING dahil HINDI NA KELANGAN MAG-ISIP, HINDI NA KELANGAN INTINIDIHIN pa ang mga babae na nasa ganitong sitwasyon. Doon nag-AGREE ang karamihan sa mga tao, kaya doon na lang din ako kasi mas madali iyon. Mas konti pa ang kokontra sa akin. BAWAS SAKIT SA ULO.

>>> Oo nga we live in a country that is culturally molded to live our lives by the Catholic Church and its values. And according to the Church, what these girls do is against those rules and is considered sinful. BUT THAT DIDN'T PREVENT SOME PEOPLE TO ACCEPT THESE GIRLS. SABI NGA NUNG ISANG GUY SA KABILANG THREAD, SOME PEOPLE ARE MORE ACCEPTING THAN OTHERS.

>>> Kung hindi ako nagkakamali ng pag-intindi, you are only 99% sure. And that 99% only belongs to those SOME THERAPISTS that you exclusively know. So how about those therapists that I exclusively know? I am also totally 99% sure na they are UPFRONT ON THE JOB THAT THEY ARE DOING TO THEIR LOVED ONES. WHY? BECAUSE SILA NA NGA LANG ANG PEDE MONG PAGKATIWALAAN SA MUNDONG ITO DAHIL SILA ANG MAS NAKAKAINTINDI SAYO AT MAY CONCERN SAYO, TAPOS MAGSISINUNGALING KA PA SA KANILA? AGAIN, SOME PEOPLE ARE MORE ACCEPTING THAN OTHERS. AND SOME OF THESE WOULD CHOOSE TO TELL THE TRUTH TO THEIR LOVED ONES, AND CHOOSE TO KEEP IT TO THOSE NA HINDI IMPORTANTE SA KANILA. TO TELL NA "THEY WILL BE FOREVER LOOKED UPON DIFFERENTLY & THAT WON'T CHANGE" IS TOO GENERAL. BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE CAN LOOK AT UPON THEM DIFFERENTLY, BUT IN AN ACCEPTING WAY.

>>> Yes, some guests will willingly go the trouble of letting their families, etc. etc. If I see that the GOOD IN THESE GIRLS is WORTH TAKING the BAD IN THEM, then why would I not tell my family etc. etc. about her and her work? But syempre, may cases na ayaw din nga ng girl ipaalam, so ang kelangan nyo dito is MUTUAL AGREEMENT - most likely kung alin ang makakabuti. And yung MAKAKABUTI na iyon eh hindi pdeng i-GENERALIZE. Hindi porke ganito ganyan ang trabaho, wala nang tatanggap sa kanila. I do understand that you are just concerned (THANK YOU FOR THAT) with some of these guys not to get into complex situations such as this. But there are certain, few number of men, who would willingly accept all the burden that will come along in this complicated situation - thus ACCEPTING THE STIGMA. I leave the reasons to them na lang.

Number 2. I am merely stating the social views of people towards the women who work these types of jobs. And you made a generalized statement that regular girls will do the same things that therapists would do. I don't think so. I don't see regular girls pleasuring men every hour or every 2 hours of everyday. Not to mention different kinds of men as you pointed out. Unless the regular girl you speak of has some form of medical condition of being addicted to it, i just don't see these regular girls doing the same thing the therapists would be doing on a daily basis. These regular girls I believe have other things on their daily activities than what these therapists do.

>>> And tama ka, the REGULAR GIRL I was speaking of is the kind of girl who f#&ks a guy because she likes to f#&k (without money as an exchange - but a BOOST IN THEIR EGOS). I'm sorry kung hindi ko na-elaborate nang husto.

Number 3.This doesn't make sense. What was the purpose of going there in the first place if you paid for a massage but not really going there to get a massage? Because you want to "create an environment where this girl would feel that she's not doing her job? How is she supposed to do that with her being naked while massaging you and stroking you? I would totally comprehend this if you were eating out or she is not at her job and you guys talking but if you were with her while she is at work then its impossible to "create" that environment you're talking about. If you went there to try to do that then she has you hook line and sinker already. You have wasted your money by making the spa richer and she has already got the tip in the bag at the end of that 1 hour environment you want to make by letting her "reveal her true self"

>>> Well their are cases na some of these girls would not allow you to see them outside their workplace. For what reasons?

1. They don't know that guy yet.

2. I have this rule not to see guests outside of work.

3. I don't like him.

4. etc. etc.

And take note, there certain guys who pay just to SIMPLY SPEND TIME with these girls. Ibig sabihin noon, para lang makasama, makausap, at makilala pa nila yung babae. Some men willingly pay just to do that. Eh ano nga naman ba ang magagawa nila kung walang tiwala sa kanila yung babae. In the first, tama nga naman yung mga girls, nagpunta sila sa ganitong lugar, syempre expected nila na these guys are not looking for anything serios. And para naman dun sa mga guys, if you know that your intentions are real and sincere, then ikaw na ang mag-adjust para doon sa babae. It will take a lot of PATIENCE, CONSISTENCY and PERSEVERANCE on your part though kung gusto mong mabago ang tingin nila sayo. But still, you are lucky if you come across a girl who is MORE ACCEPTING THAN OTHERS.

Yeah it's great not to see these women working in this kind of environment or this environment shouldn't exist at all. But gaya ng isang CORRUPT GOVERNMENT, hindi madaling burahin ang ganitong INDUSTRY. It's the oldest profession the world has and considering our that our country is still in a THIRD WORLD status - a substantial amount of people don't live good lives.

To Mr. Louis Roederer, I understand your concerns. Ako rin naman, alam ko na hindi madali ang pumasok sa ganitong sitwasyon. But gaya nga ng sinabi, may iba lang kasi talaga na mas WILLING sumabak sa ganitong mga bagay. If ang payo mo sa mga guys is wag ng simulan kasi mahirap nga talaga, siguro ang maipapayo ko na lang sa mga guys na nakapag-simula na (at walang pang balak sumuko at the moment), just think if this situation is slowling destroying you as a person. Kung nagloloko ka na sa buhay dahil hindi mo na alam ang gagawin eh tingin ko nga dapat ka nang tumigil. But if you can still go through life's challenges while simultaneously taking this kind of situation into account, then good luck.

 

Gusto ko ito.

 

Girls should all definitely f&*k for a living- may direksyon ang buhay! Panalo! Can't go wrong with the worlds oldest profession! You missed your true calling dapat guidance counselor ka sa all girls school1 accolades left and right for you!

 

Sa akin lang kasi, just like other GMs na nag-advice eh huwag na lang. And I am really papajacking your asses with a big dose of reality. Kasi anyone of the GMs who wants this relationship OUGHT to know exactly what dapak your accepting and its a lot of whapak.

I think you're completely missing my point when I said: [GIRLS WHO f#&k FOR FREE vs GIRLS WHO f#&k FOR A LIVING, sino kaya ang mas may direksyon sa buhay?]

Or maybe because I failed to explain it further (sorry for that). Now let me elaborate.

What I'm trying to compare here are the:

A. GIRLS WHO f#&k FOR FREE

- Eto yung mga babae na kung makipag-sex kung kani-kaninong lalake na nagmumukang PASSION na nila sa buhay ang gawin yun.

- Sige sabihin na nating pinipili nila yung mga makaka-sex nila, but still the act of having sex with anyone (with certain restrictions nga lang kasi choosy yung babae - GUSTO POGI) just because you like it doesn't AUTOMATICALLY make her better than therapists.

- Some of these girls tend to be happy-go-lucky dahil SECURE naman sila sa mga buhay nila eh. Ano nga naman ba ang mawawala kung gagawin nila yun, diba?

B. GIRLS WHO f#&k FOR A LIVING

- Eto yung mga babae na nakikipag-sex sa kani-kaninong lalake dahil kelangan nilang mabuhay. I can't blame them if during that turning point ng buhay nila eh yun ang napili nilang pasukin. Some just didn't know any better way to earn a living AT THAT POINT.

- It is a FORM OF NECCESSITY for MOST of them.

SITUATION:

Girl A f#&ks a random stranger (which she probably chose) because she likes it. What does she earn after that? Ego boost?

Girl B f#&ks a random stranger (which she didn't choose) because she needed money to for her family - food, expenses, etc. What does she earn after that? Decreased dignity as a woman and literally MONEY. Pero yung pera na yun may patutunguhan - mapupunta para sa pamilya niya.

Although hindi naman ako bulag sa mga cases na yung therapists eh nalululong sa mga bisyo. But mind you, your SO-CALLED NORMAL girl might be indulged into deeper vices than therapists. I'm just explaining the better side of them, because I chose to see the better side of them.

Ang pinaka-punto ko lang naman kasi talaga dito is:

PLEASE NAMAN KUNG i-MOCK NAMAN KASI NATIN YUNG MGA THERA PARANG NAPAKALINIS NATIN MGA TAO EH, MAMATAY NA ANG NAGSABING WALA SIYA NAGAWANG KASALANAN HABANG NABUBUHAY SIYA. OO, SHORTCOMINGS NILA YAN, BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE THEM EVIL, THAT DOESN'T MAKE THEM LESS HUMANE - THAT'S HOW I SEE IT.

#goodvibeslang

SHOUTOUT TO THOSE GUYS WHO VIEW THESE GIRLS ONLY AS A PIECE OF MEAT: YOU DON'T DESERVE TO BE IN A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH ANY WOMAN. I THINK AYAW NYO RIN NAMAN KASI GANYAN NGA ANG TINGIN NYO SA KANILA.

MY POINT OF VIEW:

Some guys pursue a thera (which most people would advise not to), because they chose or they managed to see the better side of them. If you try to look at some (of course not all), these theras have better character than a woman you would see in a coporate/typical setting. Siguro what made them subpar lang talaga sa mga mata ng karamihan is ung SOCIAL STIGMA na kapag ganyan ang trabaho eh hindi na pedeng pagkatiwalaan, mababa lang dapat ang tingin sa kanila, hindi deserve nang pagmamahal.

Parang sa gobyerno lang, maraming tao ang bulag sa katotohanan, because most of them look only at the surface of things. The same can be said sa mga theras. Most of these guys who pay for their services would only see the surface. Why? Because in the first place MOST of these theras do it for a living. And if that is your primary source of income, then you would have to do your best to keep the money coming. Kahit saan namang business ganoon eh. Kahit naman sa mga LEGIT businesses, gagawin lahat basta kumita lang. That's why we can never blame SOME of them if they chose to pretend in front of their GUESTS. Anyway, it's most likely that's it's part of their job description: TO TREAT GUESTS NICELY - and some guys misinterpret this as panloloko. And come to think of it, kahit saan din namang LEGIT businesses, ganyan dapat. Eh aba malulugi ka kapag masama ang trato mo sa customers mo.

When these girls entered the industry, MOST of them would not expect to form a relationship from it. I agree dun sa sinabi ni Mr. Red Boy. Eh bakit ka nga naman magseseryoso sa isang GUEST kung ang tingin sayo eh LAMAN lang?

But then again, there are these rarest exceptions, when the intentions of the guy are sincere, at fortunately wala sa vocabulary ni thera ang mag take advantage. Either the thera will be blunt to give rejection to the guy, or she will also take a chance with him, because she saw the sincerity in him.

Please naman wag tayong manghusga agad. Kahit saang area naman ng buhay, kahit saang setting pa yan, ang dami kayang mapanlinlang na tao. Yung iba ngang mga babae na may trabaho sa corporate world, basta basta na lang nagpapatira sa kahit sinong lalake na matipuhan nila. Take note, libre pa yun. Pero kapag ikunumpara sila sa mga thera na ginagawa yun for a living, e mas mababa pa rin ang tingin ng karamihan sa mga thera.

GIRLS WHO f#&k FOR FREE vs GIRLS WHO f#&k FOR A LIVING, sino kaya ang mas may direksyon sa buhay?

Getting to know these theras eh parehas lang kung pano mo makikilala ang isang tao na hindi ganyan ang trabaho. Honestly it takes a lot of PATIENCE & CONSISTENCY & SELFLESSNESS in order to dig deep sa tunay nilang pagkatao. Honestly kahit sa kanino naman eh.

 

Hey everyone, I would like to contribute to this topic. I already had a personal love relationship with 2 mpa's in my lifetime. I wont go into the private details, however here are some things I have learned:

FACTS:

Human Psychology - Nowadays, every person lies, including mpa's. I think it is important that you know the type of lies these women tell, basically discern from these 3 types:

White Lies - Is she lying to protect or hide something of interest? Is it to protect you from getting hurt or somebody she loves? Is she ready to accept this present situation? Is that reason good or even justified?

Fabrication or a Bold-Faced Lies - This is plain decietfulness, you should just forget her. 90% she is just fronting up or she's possibly planning to trap or use you for your own resources.

Pathological or Compulsive Liars - Don't f#&k with this one, bros. Insane in the brain! Nuff said.

I would say that above should be pretty basic enough. If she passes the human psychology tests factor, and IF you still think that your love is worth a shot... Then by all means read on.

Financial matters - Depending on her popularity, in general, your MPA gf may be earning more than you do on an per daily average with tips that are tax-free. Plus there are other money-matters such as their debt, their spending lifestyle, the money they send to their families and for Milfs, their dependents. Just do the math. Consider that when you ask her to quit her job for you.

Her JOB - Always remember that she belongs to a specialized workforce in their industry. Switching jobs may not be so easy, not especially if this is what she has been doing ever since dropping out from school. Know her history and should you decide to take her in and make her quit her job, you should have saved up a small fortune yourself. Be prepared to shoulder her expenses for a period of time, at least enough time for her to switch jobs. She may love you, and she may not even say this but she WILL ALWAYS expect that you do this at very least. Or she might very well blame you later on for fooling her to quit her job and you not providing for her. This is give and take.

The SEX - IMHO this is the hardest part, sure you will agree with me that it is also the most AWESOME part. But play smart mga bro. If you are not financially capable of rearing children, then use condoms, or put her on contra pill. If she is a forgetful one, then pay for one of those contraceptive implants good for 1 year that are available in clinics. Whatever works for you both. You will thank yourselves later.

Long Term Goal - Say your MPA gf passes all of the above, and assuming that you are the stable one with the income, that you will be the driving force and decision-maker of this relationship. How do you picture your lives in the future? Is it a life abroad, or will you be married in her home province? Was she married previously and seeking annulment? What of your children, schooling and education, (for Milf's) adoption of their existing children? Pera pera usapan dito. Always. Consider this ultimate factor into play. It would be a real shame and a real waste of a good part of your life for you to go so far marrying her and only end up seeking annulment yourselves. If you do not even share the same life goals together then don't even go there.

So there it is guys, good luck to you!!!

 

A good constructive point here.

Excuse me, but upon reading your posts. I realized that you are looking for pointers on how to get to ask a therapist out. Which leads me to ask you a question, why? Why try to get with a therapist? Are you having trouble getting women not in the industry where you can court, pamper and make them feel special? I hope i didn't offend you, I'm merely trying to understand the schematics as to why you want to get with a therapist in comparison with a "regular" lady. If you are by your standards not an attractive looking guy then I understand why you would want to get with a woman from this industry, but i tell you now, they wouldn't give you the time of day unless you are using their time by paying for it. Adding that if you are not physically attractive then, they won't really take you or like seriously. Other than that, whatever they show you is not real at all its because they have to due to their job as therapist.

 

You have a much better chance of getting a "regular" girl where at least you won't be pressured to shower or pamper with material things.

 

Anyway, that's just what i think.

I will try to answer for him:

1. Why try to get with a therapist? ---Because like any other REGULAR GIRL, they're human too. Just because their line of work is like that, doesn't mean that they're not entitled to be liked by someone.

2. You generalize these girls way too much. These REGULAR GIRLS you are talking about can do the same things you said these THERAPISTS "would" do. It's just that things being offered to the REGULAR GIRLS isn't directly presented as money. If a guy decides to pursue a THERAPIST over the REGULAR GIRL, he must be aware that these ladies have seen different types of men in their work. It will take more than looking at the surface just to see whether they're being REAL with you or NOT. After all, it's your choice.

3. Maybe if a guy can try to create an environment where this girl would feel that she's not doing her job when she's with him, there may be chances that she'll reveal her true self to him.

4. “As such, there is no one-size-fits-all approach that anyone can offer you. The hot water that softens a carrot will harden an egg.”

#goodvibeslang