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puson lang yan, malayo sa puso, sasayangin mo lang oras panahon at pera mo dre, maniwala ka, been there, done that hahaha

It seems like your in the other side of the coin now. I remember nakikipagsagutan pa kay Sir Edmund about this issue The longer the thera is in this business the lower the chance the magkaroon ng happy ending. Mas may chance pa yung nga newbie pa lang kasi hindi pa nila natitikman yung mga luho and BI ng mga ibang thera.

There are pros and cons of being a thera. The pros is making good money than any average office work. Some are even earning higher than a Senior Manager in a reputable company. The cons is really the lovelife. This will sacrifice a bit since most guys you will meet are in a cubicle Those who already have a family try to make it a secret/lie what she does inside the cubicle. Most are known to work as "Receptionist" in home than a "Therapist".

The success rate is low in making the relationship last long not because of the age or occupation but more on the maturity side. Theras are young and what they taught is love at first turns out to be not and just a feeling that just fades out. There are also GMs that are so insecure because of what she does or did in the past due to her work. Not because GM are older than theras makes it automatic that they are more mature.

There are genuine love and there are just fantasies came true that interpret it to "love", For me just enjoy the moment and don't take it seriously. You can try to cool it off a bit then see what happens on both parties if its still there.

ipon ipon bawasan ang luho

True. That's what they should do. Kasi its really hard to find a real job that will compensate their income in spa especially most therapist are just high school graduate or college undergrad.

 

with regards with "inlove pareho" kailangan talaga malaman kung totoo love ang isat isa kasi problema talaga mangyayari pag ganon.

 

kung magkaka gf ng thera dapat handa ka at kayang ipakilala sa pamilya at sa mga kaibigan, kung sakasakaling yung isa sa kaibigan mo e naging client/guest nya awkward yun siempre. pero mahalaga huminto na at umalis si thera sa ganong trabaho.

Yung iba hindi pa rin humihinto kasi may pride na ayaw nila maging financially burden lalo na kung sinusuportahan pa ang family. Tamed na lang daw ang ES

Pinaka mahirap pa nyan malaman mo na kilala mo yung mga naging customer.

Meron talagang ganyan. Katropa pa nga yung iba. Papano mo sasabihin sa katropang BF na ATW mo na yung thera GF at ang sarap and wild niya.

It is, brother, it has become something straight out of a telenovela. I didnt want it to be like this though.

 

Yeah, actually i havent really made a move after we broke up, and i keep telling myself that its time to just move on. That shes gone. Who knows they might be already back together in each other's arms as we speak?

 

But like i said, none of my business anymore.

There's a lot of us who felt that way. Don't think it only happens to you. Even those considered masters in Espas are also prone to this scenario. Only time will heal your heart. For me looking for other theras didn't worked.

Sorry to say but I don't think they broke up at all with your thera. Thinking her bad traits help falling you out of love. That's why you fight even in the early stage, her character comes out and you are not compatible already. Your lucky its still in an early stage some even took a along time until they are dry (emotionally and financially).

 

its not really a weird arrangement but to ensure trust. i remember when my wife kept holding on to her old SIM ... she was 3 or 4 months pregnant with our first baby then. at first its to stay in touch with her hold friends so I didn't argue. one time as i was entering the bedroom, i saw her just standing in the middle of the room staring at her phone like she was trying to decide what to write. i asked what was wrong and she told me it was one of her former guest ... aalis daw ng bansa and will not be back so was asking her if he could see her again. since sinabi naman niya, i chose to simply say "sige finish your business with him" and left her to her thoughts. that particular guest, i have known about ... kwento nga niya na mabait at galante and treated her with respect. of course hurt ako non at gusto kong mangaway ... pero kailangan ko mag endure and i had to allow her to find her own resolve and to make her own decisions.

 

she came a few minutes, hugged me, and just told me na tapos na ... didn't need to speak of it again ... past forgotten.

 

she changed sim ultimately ... may mga guest na makulit talaga and a wife ng guest na nangaaway

Congrats sir on your rare success story. Wishing you all the best to your relationship.

Reposting what I post in Client fallling in love since its a similar thread

This is an opinion thread about Clients falling in love, anything said about it either negative or positive should be respected or just ignore it if you can't take it. If this thread affects anyone what more if your friends or relatives said that in front of you. What more if your mother said that in your face, what will you do? React as you react in here? There is nothing wrong falling in love to these girls, heck I also did, but how can you love her unconditionally if a simple opinions in this thread is making your head spin. What more if its in your real world now. If you guys plan to go with the relationship then go ahead but make sure you have a long term plan or strategy on how to deal with it, Hindi pwede yung bahala na si batman, coz it won't work.

This is an opinion thread about Clients falling in love, anything said about it either negative or positive should be respected or just ignore it if you can't take it. If this thread affects anyone what more if your friends or relatives said that in front of you. What more if your mother said that in your face, what will you do? React as you react in here? There is nothing wrong falling in love to these girls, heck I also did, but how can you love her unconditionally if a simple opinions in this thread is making your head spin. What more if its in your real world now. If you guys plan to go with the relationship then go ahead but make sure you have a long term plan or strategy on how to deal with it, Hindi pwede yung bahala na si batman, coz it won't work.

I guess I'm experiencing it now and hoping that he is really willing to accept me and willing to forget my past... True love is like a virus when it hits you, your starting to get sick.

Hope that I'm right about the sickness you feel is every morning in your stomach? A bit acidic pero hindi ito yung naduduwal kasi buntis but still feels like throwing up also.

I don't think any GM will go to spa/MP looking for love. They just go there for relaxation and some release. And men don't fall in love to any girl because they had great sex. They fall in love because they had a connection between them just like any other girl. Most GMs that way even contended of just having chitchat with them. Being with her is already a satisfaction. Getting to another level like dating outside will be the next step. Of coarse there are men that are more gullible than others but you will never know when the love bug bites.

Importantly when you do fall in love, analyze carefully if the girl is also in love with you or just a cash cow/ATM. And if you really don't want to fall in love with them but can't avoid going to these place, DON'T TAKE THE SAME GIRL MORE THAN ONCE.

You guys are not helping the young lad at all with all this bickering. Nagkakaroon na ng personal agenda. Just give a brief advice and direct to the point. Weather he accepts it or not, its for him to decide. Peace everybody. Di kasi natuloy yung lap dance kay Sir Ed kasi. :D

To tell you the truth, I only started paying for sex later in my youth, not so much as para magparaos but just to experience how it works and out of curiosity na din ika nga and because some of my friends wanted to go. At first I hesitated because natatakot ako mahawaan ng sakit and I didn't feel comfortable having sex with a girl na diko naman kilala. So we went to Caloocan and there's a bar there (I forgot the name) and as we entered the small swinging doors na parang sa western movies I immediately saw tables with guys drinking with gros and what not under dim red lights. So my friend who's familiar with the place talked to the waiter and we were asked to choose a lady from a lineup. Then we were brought upstairs and asked to wait in small rooms na may gamit pa nung girl na napili namin, as if dun din sila natutulog because I can see their personal stuff lying around. The bed was more like a wooden cot with a thin mattress, maliit lang na good for 1 person. As I sat there someone came in and I saw it was her, the lady I chose. I could see that she was wasted and she smelled like an ashtray as she handed me the condom and asked me to strip. It was a terrible experience for me but I pounded her until makaraos ako kahit hindi ako nag enjoy dahil nanghinayang din ako sa binayad ko. For me the feeling was strange. She was attractive naman kahit pano, and sexy, pero walang dating sakin kase inside my head alam ko hindi sya nakipag sex sakin dahil gusto nya ako. I knew it wasn't the point, I knew it's all just about sex and money but I just couldn't get over the thought na wala akong effort na ginawa para maikama ko sya. I wasn't used to that scenario, My uncle always taught me "money for nothing, chicks for free", so all the while nasa isip ko un and I felt I was betraying myself. Hindi ako nagmamalaki na matinik ako sa chicks at hindi ako mukang artista na para pagkaguluhan nila pero I can hold my own naman kahit pano, kahit mejo torpe ako. The point of the story is, we are men and as men we should be able to tell the difference between haviing sex for fun or relaxation as opposed to having sex for love and attraction.

That's the easiest scenario where the girl just want to get it on and be over with also. There are some girls that are really super GFE that they hook you up to make you come back for more. Those are the dangerous ones because they are the one that make you fall in love. Its still a case to case basis in term of connections between you two but its better not to give your cp# to them.

 

may voucher ako dto para sa espa 50% off gusto mo??? =)

Subok lang Sir Edmund, kahit massage lang, walang ES, just to meet 1st hand ng isang thera. Pero bigyan mo rin ng tip ah.

Just like in any discussion or debate, minsan umiinit talaga ang sagutan lalo na kung passionate sila sa topic. I know a GM na malaki ang naitulong ni Sir Edmund sa thread na ito. Even I kahit papano may napulot na lesson sa kanya. I experienced din yung kabilang side kaya nga ako napadpad din dito sa thread na ito. Every one has a point, depende na lang kung saan nagmula yung reason na iyon. Its just an advice na you can take it or leave it, Wala naman personalan. Honestly wala namang lalaki na ang 1st choice na GF is in the industry di ba? Nagkataun lang na may nameet dito na connect talaga kayo. Hindi naman lahat ng lalaki may thera lang na naglambing or GFE e maiinlove na. Hindi ganun sa mga taong hindi pa naranasan. It really DEPENDS kung compatible kayo. Kumbaga makakakuha ka rin ng katapat mo, yung iba lang e mas vulnerable kesa sa iba. Kung emotionally happy ka mas less chance na mainlove ka than others.. I know most who go here have problems kaya nga nagpupunta dito para magrelax sa outside world.

"It can't be avoided. Falling for a girl is not planned, regardless of her profession." -50ShadesMan

I agree, but how to deal with it is a different matter.

Like to share something I remember when I watched the TV series HOUSE before. The PSP rejected House on another service call because she has a rule. Never get the same client more than 7 times. Her reason is you may be emotional attached already or fall in love to her para less hassle and complications.

 

back read ka ng konti pre, un mga tipong bandang kalagitnaan ng December..kung hindi d2 sa topic na to, dun sa Falling for a Therapist...meron kame mga healthy arguments nyan ni Sir ED...pero hindi natin sya masisisi...ok lang yan....

 

it so happen na spa therapist un ilan sa mga talagang ka close ko...masaya naman sila kasama, hindi naman lahat kelangan magkaroon ng romantic involvement to begin with...pwede naman ka barkada mo na din, and may success story din naman talaga....

 

again...ito ay based sa mga experience ko, and hindi ko sinasabe na tularan...may kanya kanya tayo brain cells...that's why The Brain is located above your Dick....apir!!!

I remember that healthy discussion. And I've been waiting for your reaction from his last post kasi ikaw ang naaalala ko sa mga post nya Di kasi natuloy yung proposal natin sa kanya eh.

 

its rarely if ever happy-ever-after. happy for a moment or a month siguro, and in the end fear and desperation win.

Yeah, very rare but not hopeless. I'm sure marami ring silent success story dyan na wala sa MTC.

Very sad that the poster above would come to that situation. That is a story that went sweet to sour and a bitter ending but this is not a far fetch scenario. And don't think that it will never happens to you. Its not always a Happily ever after ending. Sa movies lang yun.

 

Well ang mga salcedo sa albay naman sila. Cam Sur, ang families na nandyan, Alfelor, Fuentebella, at syempre pa ang mga Villafuerte. Matagal ng gusto makuha ng mga villafuerte ang Naga kasi andyan lahat ng negosyo. Ang kaso hindi sila manalo nalo dyan. Balwarte ito talaga ni Robredo. Pero di tulad ng ibang political families, hindi naman pinapamana ni Jess pwesto nya sa asawa nya. Pero maganda talaga naging setup nya sa naga. Kaya nga, halos lahat ng malalaking franchise na nasa manila, dagsa din sa naga. Bukod pa dyan nagkaroon na din ng mga call center.

 

Wala talagang gusto maginvest sa mga probinsya. Dahil balwarte ito ng mga political families, kelangan may sustento ka sa kanila kung gusto mo magtagal negosyo mo doon. Kaya outside naga, wala, puros taghirap ang mga lugar dun. Ni walang maayos na ospital o mga paaralan. Ano ba naacomplish ng mga Villafuerte? Yung water sports center tsaka caramoan lang naman na vanity project ng magamang LRay at Migz. Pero yung problema sa employment opportunities wala. Kaya nga ilan ba sa mga nasa metro manila ang hindi rin taga probinsya?

I agree na mahirap banggain ang mga political families, but being the Governor of Bicol, pwede naman niya pahimasukan what is good to all his towns.

 

Kelangan paunlarin ang mga probinsya. Kelangan buwagin political families na naghahari dun para mas pumasok marami pang negosyo. Samin sa Cam Sur, Naga ang talagang pinapasukan ng mga negosyo. Ang dami ng franchises dun, bukod pa dyan, may mga call centers na din. Maayos talaga naging palakad ni Mayor Jess. Maganda yung naiwan nyang setup. Ang kaso, ang ibang lugar sa Cam Sur, lalo na yung mga balwarte ng mga Alfelor at Villafuerte panay naghihirap naman. Kaya nga predicted namin na unti unti sisikip na din ang naga

At least kahit sumikip ang Naga, makita ng mga Bikolano ang difference ng pagunlad ng mga syudad kumpara sa iba.. Wala bang magawa si Gov. Salcdo dyan sa mga political families? Akala ko magaling yan.

Eyes then the whole face bago ang body

Falling in love with a girl in the sex industry is always difficult.

 

I used to think that it's more difficult if your girl works in an MP rather a spa, but over the years my view has changed.

 

Guys know what happens inside an MP--there are practically no limits as ATW is an standard there. So either accept it or you don't. Spas on the other hand are different as mileage widely vary.

 

This is where the challenge arises. Most spa goers nowadays know that HJs are standard but BJs are now common in spas, so unlike five years ago where you have to have luck, charm, and money to get it. To a certain extent same with ATW, though many (likely most) therapists still refuse to cross this line.

 

Will you believe your GF if she says she only does HJ? It is possible of course that she's telling the truth. But will that stop your imagination from tormenting you? What goes in your mind when she goes to work? What do you do when you read an FR? Will you confront her? Or will you suffer in silence?

 

Sadly there are more questions than answers.

The question is how did you get those above standard ES when you are just starting with her? If its easy then there is a problem that she will do standard. Remember that she have regulars that are getting above standard before so its hard that she will downgrade those ES when you are together. Juat my 2 cents.

Been longing to post this and get the opinions of all.

 

Just a question cause i still cannot anawer. If you "garahe" a thera, fix her life and let her continue her studies. The person who sheltered her is very much a bachelor but not living with this thera. He just placed her in one of his condos. But this thera is no longer allowed to have bf and work in spa. He likes her so much and even brings her abroad but this guy still not commiting and still roaming the spa market.

Is this guy in love with the therapist? A confused guy

I don't think so that he is in love. Maybe he consider her just a friend who wants to live a new life or maybe just treating her as a trophy to show to others that he can do that kind of thing with his money. O baka naman napasubo lang siya and pinanindigan na lang.