Louis Roederer

buffalo wild wings & wing stop

 

I will try to answer for him:

 

1. Why try to get with a therapist? ---Because like any other REGULAR GIRL, they're human too. Just because their line of work is like that, doesn't mean that they're not entitled to be liked by someone.

 

2. You generalize these girls way too much. These REGULAR GIRLS you are talking about can do the same things you said these THERAPISTS "would" do. It's just that things being offered to the REGULAR GIRLS isn't directly presented as money. If a guy decides to pursue a THERAPIST over the REGULAR GIRL, he must be aware that these ladies have seen different types of men in their work. It will take more than looking at the surface just to see whether they're being REAL with you or NOT. After all, it's your choice.

 

3. Maybe if a guy can try to create an environment where this girl would feel that she's not doing her job when she's with him, there may be chances that she'll reveal her true self to him.

 

4. “As such, there is no one-size-fits-all approach that anyone can offer you. The hot water that softens a carrot will harden an egg.”

 

#goodvibeslang

Number 1. I'm not saying they don't deserve love. I'm saying that because of that job, they are already stigmatized and have become social pariahs. That's the reality they have to deal with. Anybody can go ahead and say that it's stereotyping all of that, but that's how society views people in this line of work isn't it? Remember, we live in a country that is culturally, molded to live our lives by the Catholic Church and its values. And according to the Church, what these girls do is against those rules and is considered sinful. I am totally 99% sure and i've only confirmed this with some therapists that i know exclusively, that they keep their jobs to their loved ones, parents, kids and others a secret. They know that once their families find out they will be forever looked upon differently and that won't change. Will the guest, go to all the trouble of letting his family and her family that he met their daughter at this joint and tell them honestly that she pleasures numerous men everyday? Is the guy willing to go through all that stigma, become a social pariah himself? I'm just simplifying it, between going through all that trouble, emotionally, physically, mentally. I'd rather be with a person not in this type of situation and make it easier for myself than go to all that trouble. In short, I'm just stating what the guy will have to go through in order to make it work as opposed to the other option.

Number 2. I am merely stating the social views of people towards the women who work these types of jobs. And you made a generalized statement that regular girls will do the same things that therapists would do. I don't think so. I don't see regular girls pleasuring men every hour or every 2 hours of everyday. Not to mention different kinds of men as you pointed out. Unless the regular girl you speak of has some form of medical condition of being addicted to it, i just don't see these regular girls doing the same thing the therapists would be doing on a daily basis. These regular girls I believe have other things on their daily activities than what these therapists do.

Number 3.This doesn't make sense. What was the purpose of going there in the first place if you paid for a massage but not really going there to get a massage? Because you want to "create an environment where this girl would feel that she's not doing her job? How is she supposed to do that with her being naked while massaging you and stroking you? I would totally comprehend this if you were eating out or she is not at her job and you guys talking but if you were with her while she is at work then its impossible to "create" that environment you're talking about. If you went there to try to do that then she has you hook line and sinker already. You have wasted your money by making the spa richer and she has already got the tip in the bag at the end of that 1 hour environment you want to make by letting her "reveal her true self"

My points are just to weigh the situation and compare them fully. To me, i don't want to go through all that trouble, looking at it from all angles. It is taxing on the mind, the body and soul. Like i mentioned you will have to deal with the moral, religious, and social repercussions of being in a relationship with a therapist.

Of course it falls on the decision of the men if they want to pursue these women. Let's say they want to do this and they are willing to go through all the consequences of their actions. But that's half the battle. What about the girl? Is she willing to go through these tribulations of being stigmatized by society and all those other baggages that come with it? The guy will literally be swallowing not only their pride but their dignity as well by getting into this relationship because whatever the thera is going to encounter the guy will also encounter, with his own family and not only hers.

Take what the previous poster has said. He makes a compelling argument.

If it were up to me, personally i'd rather see these women not working in this type of industry and this industry shouldn't exist at all in order to have none of these arguments because i would like for these women to be working regular jobs instead of this.

I am good friends with them but i would never get in a relationship with them. To me, its simply not worth the migraine it will bring.

Excuse me, but upon reading your posts. I realized that you are looking for pointers on how to get to ask a therapist out. Which leads me to ask you a question, why? Why try to get with a therapist? Are you having trouble getting women not in the industry where you can court, pamper and make them feel special? I hope i didn't offend you, I'm merely trying to understand the schematics as to why you want to get with a therapist in comparison with a "regular" lady. If you are by your standards not an attractive looking guy then I understand why you would want to get with a woman from this industry, but i tell you now, they wouldn't give you the time of day unless you are using their time by paying for it. Adding that if you are not physically attractive then, they won't really take you or like seriously. Other than that, whatever they show you is not real at all its because they have to due to their job as therapist.

You have a much better chance of getting a "regular" girl where at least you won't be pressured to shower or pamper with material things.

Anyway, that's just what i think.

And that's what I'm pointing at.

 

Again, if there's any politically incorrect statement, I apologize. Cheers!

That's why i pointed out some statements of yours that sounded to me like you were generalizing. It's good that you cleared it up.

I could say these types of affairs of falling in love with therapists or mpa's can be the same as women in the porn industry. Because there are women who are married but still do porn, some of the porn actresses have their boyfriends or husbands becoming their co-actors or even turn out to be directors of the films and they shoot their films and watch their porn girlfriends/ wives with other men.

It's like " The Family that prays together, F's together"

If the guy is open minded to think that its ok for his spouse/gf thera to do their job with no personal and emotional attachments then it shouldn't be a problem.

Think of it like the porn industry, the guys the porn actresses are with seem fine with it.

- Pag ang GM TOTOONG nagmahal sa inyo, seryoso yan... in my personal opinion, I maybe wrong pero sa mga nakita ko, pag ang GM na TOTOONG na-fall sa thera, buwis buhay yan... mas totoo ang pagmamahal na binibigay ng isang GM sa isang thera kesa sa isang babae na wala sa industriya ng ESPA or MP...

Sorry, but I have to disagree with these statements. First off, when a person falls in love with anyone seriously, they love them wholeheartedly and unconditionally. It doesn't matter what the other person's status or line of work is. From your statement, you're saying that people who fall in love with therapists or massage parlor attendants are more serious than people who fall in love with women who work outside this industry, in lets say, fastfood stores, doctors, women lawyers etc.. That statement is wrong in my point of view. What makes the therapists and women outside of this work different other than their job? Nothing, they are all women. For you to say that men are more serious when it comes to loving therapists more than women outside the industry is wrong. If you're serious about a woman, it doesnt matter what line of work they are in. Don't make generalized statements without the proper facts.

Isipin nyo, ang babaeng wala sa industriya ng ESPA at MP, makita lang naming mga lalaki na may ibang attention na binibigay ang nagugustuhan namin, di namin kaya tanggapin yun... gulo yun... pero ang mga Thera and MPs, we know what's going on inside and yet the GMs chose to accept and go on with their love for you, that's EXTREMELY DIFFERENT...

This is also a generalized statement about women outside of the spa and mp industry, if its your opinion i respect it. But don't make it generalized because not all men get flustered and jealous simply because they see another person being given attention by a girl/lady that they like. If you ask me, it just means that the girl is either aren't into you or it could be nothing. I think people who get easily jealous over certain things are either insecure of themselves that they feel they need to react in order to mark their territory or something.

My point is, don't make it seem like women from the spa industry are anything different from women outside of it. I just feel that statements like this "mas totoo ang pagmamahal na binibigay ng isang GM sa isang thera kesa sa isang babae na wala sa industriya ng ESPA or MP" warrants me to speak out because i disagree with this.

Another sob story of a person who got into a situation of a 1 one in a million impossibility. Reading all the things that were posted. You mentioned she blocked your pm. So there is no means of contacting her other than that? You don't have her cp number? If pm is the only means of contact you have of her then that's a bad sign. Ignoring your pm and not replying is the girls way of being subtle and letting you down easy. It means she's really not interested in speaking with you because she knows that your into her, but from her side she's not interested at all. You should be able to read between the lines here. It's a polite and subtle rejection.

She wants to save you from a confrontational and humiliating rejection and instead is using a more subtle way of rejecting.

There's only a couple things that i see happening here. aside from her not being interested, it might also mean that she can't get anything from you in terms of money because you aren't able to go and get her services. So why should she use her time talking to someone she won't get anything from? she thinks its a waste of time and would instead talk to other GM's that she can text for a guest call.

It's still your choice if you want to pursue this type of situation. But if i were you, save your dignity and self respect and drop it because its not worth it. By saying you are ok with it being a one-sided inrequited love. You're either a fool or a martyr.

I apologize for my bluntness, but these are the only 2 things i see happening for you. Its admirable you will do something like this for a girl. But you're doing it for the wrong one.

Being an OFW instead of wallowing in self pity, why don't you go look for someone that's closer to where you live. I'm pretty sure there are women where you are.
Save yourself the trouble and hurt down the road.

Being unhappy in a current relationship is not the only reason why one could cheat on a significant other. For me it's the thrill of the hunt; an inherent drive to conquer; to know for certain that one still "has it". Men have the need to feed their egos, and other than power, nothing feeds our ego more than a beautiful woman. But just because I cheat does not mean that I do not love my significant other, nor does it mean that I am not committed. Sure, this may be seen as weakness; to give in and succumb to a primal instinct, not being able to muster the strength of will to hold back. There will always be a tinge of regret in that feeling of satisfaction. But I would rather regret something that was, than what could have been. It is a risk, for by doing so I stand to lose the people I love. But I do it so that I do not lose myself. In a sense, it does not make me a better man, but at least in the end, I do not feel like a lesser one.

 

"I wanna be faithful but I can't keep my hands off the cookie jar."

i can totally relate to your point of view. I actually talked about this with my friend. He basically told me that i am probably not content with my life and i need certain things to do in order to keep things interesting. But he also cautioned me that i am also lying to my significant other by not telling her. I said why would i tell her, it would only get me in trouble, and he said you probably don't love her then. Regardless of your reasons for keeping things secret from your other. if you truly love them you would not keep things from them. you must be open in your relationship in order for it to grow. He also said people will always look for certain reasons to do certain things no matter how bad or unfair they are therefore in return, hurting the people we love. He also said that's I'm being selfish regardless of the reasons I do in order to cheat. We are being selfish to the person we love because we in turn are lying to them.

In the end he told me, sure you might get away with it and live happily with your significant other without her finding out. But know this. "When you do meet God, he would want an answer as to why you lied to your other without telling her what you did." and if you can't provide a sufficient answer for his question. He will definitely pass judgment on you when that time comes"

In hindsight, i thought what he said made sense. I was being selfish and i didn't think of anyone but my own desires and wants without realizing it would be detrimental to the person i love. It also scared me since he mentioned God would pass judgment on me when the time does come when i meet him in the other life.

I may get what i desire in this life. But i might also suffer the consequences of my actions forever in the other life and this made me realize my mistake and i promised never to do it again. i also came clean to my other and told her all the things i did. It was a bad time for a while, but in the end she forgave me and i have been honest with her from that point on. No More Secrets!

honestly, it doesnt matter to me whether shes a therapist or a teacher or what have you. hell some guys think they have their girlfriends all to themselves when in fact shes even more used than a public restroom. ive already thought about and understood most of the implications and problems that ill be having coming into this, if it doesnt work out then, ill just charge this one to experience. but for the meantime ill just keep on keeping on. these ladies deserve to be loved too, i understand some of them have already been broken in the past that's why theyre in this industry, what bothers me is just how ironic it must be to find love from unfaithful men such as us. (whoever says otherwise needs to look at himself in the mirror)

hang on there, i just want to clarify that what you're saying the reason some of them are in this line of work was because they were heartbroken? They aren't qualified to get any positions at other establishments that's why they have no choice but to go to this kind of work. Not because they were heartbroken and they come running to work in these places because they have nowhere else to go.

They aren't financially well off you know. If they were, they wouldn't be there working.

That to me, does not make any sense. Sadly, people need money to survive and this is the only thing keeping them alive at the moment.

But for people to actually try to have a relationship with a person with this type of work. You have to face the reality that other strangers are touching, licking and what have you, do certain things to the person you are having a relationship with. If you can take these things and not get affected by it. Then good for you.

But if you start acting all crazy and go postal on her because you got Jealous because some customer says he "Enjoyed his time" with your GF. Then why did you get into a relationship with her in the first place knowing that she is in this work. Don't blame her, blame yourself. You got yourself into this mess.

I always say "You make your bed, you sleep in it".

If you get into these type of situations, don't regret it. Because you should always know what you signed up for.

Do not delude yourself that loving yourself first and foremost is the key to loving another.

 

That is a very foolish line of thinking which just breeds spineless men and ignorant feminist women.

 

Do not forget that the concept of love is based on GIVING and SUFFERING.

i might have stretched what i said about loving yourself first. i should have said, you shouldn't give your everything to the person because, down the road if things don't work out, it can help you ease into a more comfortable transition and help you recover since you were prepared for it. Sure love can be painful if it doesn't work out, but anticipating certain situations don't hurt either.

I do stand on my belief that you should still love yourself as well as others. Now who goes first between the those 2 things is subject to the person involved. and that my friend is not a "delusion".

My whole point is, always leave some love for yourself. Giving all your love to one person is not healthy, that's all i'm saying.

I believe in this verse

Romans 13:9 For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not covet,” and any other commandment, are summed up in this word: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

anyone ever tried Myron's and given it some feedback?

I think around 600 to 800 per head should be enough. But of course its not wise to be precise when it comes to pricing in a resto. There will always be that chance that you would want to order more.

i agree, thank you for the useful information.

Went back to HARU SUSHI BAR in Kapitolyo Pasig ........

 

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Food here is still good. I'm hoping to come back again.

apologies for being off topic, but what's the running prices on the food at this place?

We have visitors from Greece who come to the Philippines at least twice a year since 2004. And they have always loved KAI. Mas kilala pa nga sila nung mga waitresses dun kaysa sa akin e...

what type of food do they have at KAI? sounds korean to me

Tried Tonkatsu at Greenbelt 2 today. For katsudon/tonkatsu lovers, this is the place to be since they sell all kinds of katsu.

Ordered the common Katsudon, which I found to be a bit on the ordinary side. Or maybe i just had high expectations for a P400 meal.

It was good, but not the type that would make me rave about it

 

Oh well. Maybe the other dishes are better, and better tasting than what they look like in the pics.

 

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Might i suggest you try YABU. Pretty much the same type of food. But better quality in my opinion.

Also i noticed you are a regular at Nihon Bashitei. Any recommendations you might have for a first timer?

The movie Friends with Benefits would disagree with this haha.

That if you wear your heart on your sleeve don't be surprised if it gets a few stains while you cook.

Good Analogy.

yes i am, but not in vulgar, physical way. i use my charm to engage in a convo with the person.

Love yourself first, before anyone else. Also, do not give all of yourself to the person, leave some love for yourself as well. The reason is, if you give your all to that person and down the road, it doesn't work out? You are going to be in a world of hurt filled with regret and remorse.

a very nice text voicemail message

a text message.

Correct them.. in a nice way

Are you adventurous when it comes to sex?

Double Shot espresso please

Cappuccino would be the order of the day.

Id probably tell her how wonderful she was last night and I'd go make some wheat blueberry pancakes and waffles with whip cream and strawberry syrup in bed.

bading?tibo?

Neither. I'm a guy. I just happen to like cristal champagne. That's why I use that handle.

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