dudulover

bought my very first cam, a brand new canon 450d, at 29k last dec.

 

mrami non ngsuggest nikon daw mganda for a beginner but after many researches and browses and everythin, i decided kung ano tlga gusto ko...when i got to that point, research na nman san mganda and mura mkabili without compromising the quality. kya ayun...haping-happy with this beautiful lil toy

 

goodluck!

the equipment of course helps, but ultimately it's the person looking through the viewfinder and pressing the shutter release...

mga masters,

 

ask ko lang kung ano maganda filter brand (polarizing filter)for canon.

 

thanks..

one of the better ones is Hoya...suggest you invest in a good brand since you can use that in other lenses naman as long as the size is the same...

another way to save money - bumili ka ng malaking size na filter, tapos invest in step up rings - these rings cost less that P500 pesos...you spend several thousand on only 1 filter which you can use for all your lenses...

Ano ba ang tama..MAGMAHAL KA NG WALANG HINIHINTAY NA KAPALIT O MAGMAHAL KA AT MARAMDAMAN MO DIN NA MAHAL KA DIN NYA..? hehe..Comment lng mga bro and sis..

parang mas okay ang pangalawa...dahil sa una, one sided lang ang relationship...

i'd like to think that most if not all of us, even though we pay for services, still maintain respect for them as persons...

i know i do...

what happened to this thread..kala ko about falling inlove with clients or vice versa to..and now we're having a debate about hu loses more...ag alam ko kasi kapag nagmahal ka walang sumbatan db?? eh bakit parang ngayun nakakarinig na ako sa mga gentle menyaks ng ganyang tanong..well i guess u will never understand us unless u guys are in our situation...yah i agree na may abusive mps or gro's din..but sana wag igeneralized..well it's a matter of luck who u get to meet and who u get to fall inlove with..hay it made me sad...

silver_ff - i did not mean to generalize...if it sounded that way, then i apologize...i believe i was fair in saying that there are some clients who are abusive, and there also some mpa's/psps etc who are abusive...

and yes, na sidetrack lang ng konti...i think we are here trying to understand the situation...some of us guys are on the other side of the bed, hehe...and who knows there are some who may get into this situation in the future...if so, maybe with this type of discussion, both may be helped and they will enter this situation with a clearer understanding of each other...

TO ALL concerned Friends,

Thank you very much.

69lovers

you are most welcome...69lovers...very decent of you to still keep in touch with her...never burn bridges right?

So sorry to disagree with you. Without intending any offense and just for the sake of a healthy argument, the example you have cited is so different. First, there is an immediate threat or life threatening situation, and your life is endanger, and thus, an immediate response/reaction is indeed appropriate and you have no other choice but to protect yourself. While in the case of the subject here who are mpas/psps/gros, they have a choice. It is rather very clear that they have a choice, and they are not in any means in a imminent situation or life threatening situation tulad ng binigay mong halimbawa.

 

Meron silang pagkakataon makapag-isip and re-assess all their options. I guess that there are other options for them. I am not being too righteous, and I'm just trying to seek much better reasons at hindi itong the so-called "branded" reason na sobrang gasgas na ang paggamit ng dahilan na ito.

 

Well if that it is your belief, I respect it.

first of all - thanks for the understanding...tama ka - walang away dito...and i fully agree na discussion lang ito...walang personalan, walang inisan...

true - the examples i cite are exaggerated...and intended to be so...i believe for some - IT is a life and death situation...imagine kung wala nang makain dahil sa hirap ng buhay...i believe everyone in life has a choice - you are correct there...but there are some situations wherein the choice is made for you...

it might be good also if maybe you can post the other options - malay mo - with your suggestions, baka makatulong rin sa kanila...sometimes, baka hindi nila naisip yung other options, and they choose this option because it's the easiest way out for them...

it would be nice also to hear from our ladies, to hear their side...to understand what situations have caused them to enter this type of work, and while they are in it how they feel...especially when a client comes along who may or may not fall in love with them...and how they can tell if the client is being sincere or not...

Again, just to remind you of the famous saying and please correct me if I'm worng. it goes like this: "THE END DOES NOT JUSTIFY THE MEANS!". So, whatever it is, we cannot justify the worngful deed. We don't have to patronize their reasons, kasi it is a lame excuse o "branded" excuse na ang mga ito. I'm sure that more than 95% ang ganitong dahilan na binanggit mo saer. I'm not being so righteous but I seeking a better reason o nakaka-ibang dahilan para sa kanila pumasok sa ganitong trade.

 

That's it for now muna. PEACE!

 

 

 

Bro., again it is not a quarrel. It is a sign of a healthy discussion so that everything can be brought out in the open.

again, i don't think it is any sort of justification...ganyan lang talaga ang kalagayan nila - they have to feed themselves, to feed their families...some have even gone into this profession to put their siblings through school...wrongful as it may seem, sometimes it is something that has to be done...

let me put this scenario - it is wrong to k*ll...but if someone comes at you with a knife in the street and you end up killing that person, kahit di mo gusto gawin - can you justify it? yes, self defense, BUT you still did a wrongful deed...

someone mentioned something about these ladies leading "dual" lives...maybe that is the way they deal with it...not only to "hide" from their family and friends, but a way for them to separate themselves from "that person doing a wrongful deed"...

I beg to disagree on this matter sir tagalupa. Gagawin mo ba ang isang bagay na hindi mo gusto, wala yatang logic 'yun argument. The act of doing of doing something considering not only once ay papaano mo masasabi na hindi nila gusto 'yun ginagawa nila. Parang magulo bro.????

marblebay...i have to disagree with you naman...hehe...

minsan minsan talaga napipilitan ang isang tao gumawa ng masama, dahil kailangan nila gawin...nakakita ka na bang sosyal sosyal na donya na mpa? o isang presidente ng company na nagaakyat bahay? naalala ko eh ayaw kong pumasok ng school dati pero kailangan gawin eh...maski di ko gusto!!! LOL!!!

sa umpisa siguro ayaw nilang gawin, pero sa katagalan, malamang di pa rin gusto pero wala na silang magawa kundi tanggapin na lang di ba?

how about comments and inputs from our girls?

i agree that you're more financially capable... hehe! :thumbsupsmiley: simply because, you're given more oppurtunities than us... pero, i disagree na we less to lose... kasi, sa case namin kaya kami pumapasok sa ganito dahil sa sobrang pangangailangan, kaya namin ibaba yung pride at alisin yung so-called dignity namin just to have money and support our love ones or ourselves... basta, di ko ma-explain... hehe! *peace* am running out of words eh...

killercath - sorry if i was misunderstood - pero what i meant is exactly what you said in the previous post to marblebay...

uhm... i think, i agree with you, sir marblebay... no offense ms. silver_ff! entering, living and having such kind of job... only means that we no longer have/had dignity... and only way to have it back is to step out or quit and be a normal...

yun lang po... *peace*

di ba it means that having no dignity means having lost it? everyone is born with dignity, and that is a big thing to lose, a huge sacrifice...honestly i sympathize with people who have had to enter into this position not by choice...

sa akin kasi - once you have lost dignity, there is nothing left to lose...am i right?

and peace...i don't think naman may away dito...friendly discussion...maybe some misunderstanding but i am glad that there is patience and one is being given a chance to clarify/explain...

i am glad also that we are hearing from our lady members, oo nga - mas lively na ang discussion dito...mas maganda...mas nakakaenganio...

hahaha pa post...less to lose??i dont think it's right to say that...d kaya tapatan ng pera yung dignity na tinatya nmin just to get in this kind of job...yung kaba lague sa dibdib namin na baka some 1 na kakilala namin ang makakita s amin..much worse is kung family member mp nakaalam..di m na mbabawi yun eh...sacrifice din namin yung tipong matapat ka sa bad customer yung tipong nanakit...laseng bastos..syempre d namn kame naka2pili ng guess lalo na nung nasa mp p ako..pero dahil sa matinding pangangailangan kelangan namin i scarifice yun feelings namin about the whole situation...so i really dont think it's right to say na mas may sacrifce yung guy..even lang i guess but on different aspects..bayad nyo lang service namin pero d nyo bayad buhay namin....hehe peace!!!!

hi silver_ff...

sorry ha...i didn't mean it that way...kaya nga i wrote also not to get me wrong about putting girls down...

let me try to clarify - not financial yung ibig kong sabihin sa "less to lose"...yung sinabi mo nga - dignity is one...for girls to enter this kind of job - they have to already have swallowed their pride, their dignity di ba? they have already sacrificed that..tama nga lahat ng sinabi mo...kaya nga less to lose kasi na sacrifice na eh di ba...but for the guys who go to mps etc., true some are abusive that they they because they have the money they have the right to "use and abuse" the girls, but soem guys are not like that din di ba...and guys who can afford to go to mps etc are guys who have that extra money which may mean that they have some status in life...and as such may have more to lose...

again i don't mean to insult you or anyone here, to put anyone down, i am just trying to state a fact of life..siyempre sana di ganyan ang buhay, di ganyan ang mundo, walang naghihirap na mapipilitan pumasok sa ganitong trabaho, pero ganyan ang mundo natin di ba?

malaki nga ang naisacrifice na...eh kung may happy ending o "fairy tale" ending diyan...happy ako for them...pero minsan kung may "abusive" na clients, for whatever reason or intention, may mga "abusive" na mps/psps/gros din di ba?

yup mahal ka talaga ng isang tao kapag isasacrifice nya ang lahat even her family, financial burden its not problem napaguusapan yan, bago kayo magsama tell and ask each other ano pa ang gagawin nyo to survive the every day consumption, walang hindi mnaayos sa pinaguusapan, your future is at your hands both of you

 

Love each other, accept what ever the past and then move on to your future

how do the girls feel about this? ano pakiramdam niyo mga girls? anong nasa isip niyo? i think kasi that guys normally have more to lose and the girls have more to gain. don't get me wrong, i'm not putting girls in the "trade" down or anything...for me kasi ganyan kasi takbo ng buhay eh and sometimes they are just caught in a bad place di ba? but let's face some reality here...the guys normally have a better life - well they can afford to go to places like these di ba - it is a "luxury"...but the ladies are often forced into this situation...and since they are in this position already, di ba they are willing to take the risk more because they have less to lose? mas maraming gagawing sacripisyo ang lalaki di ba? tama ba ako?

how cum pls explain!

yup...please explain...something new for me...

eyeball, basketball, volleyball etc etc...basta may ball - call ako diyan!!!

 

seriously, that's a good idea! :cool: who knows what could happen? my experience with eyeballs is that at least people end up putting a face behind the handle...and at the very least, it's fun... :thumbsupsmiley:

EB! EB! EB! :thumbsupsmiley:

it happens all the time..... with the girl on the losing end....

 

it usually means the guy gets to do it for free kasi gf na niya....

 

no matter how you look at it lamang palagi lalaki...

 

if youre serious on helping out talaga.. make an exit plan for her....

 

theres gotta be other options for her to make money...

 

besides you gotta do your thing too and support her temporarily....

and how sure can you be after doing all that that she will stay with you afterwards?

are you willing to take the risk? i mean, you said it will take time...and during that time how can you be sure that she is not just taking advantage of you?

true - that a girl can also be on the losing end...but i think more often than not, it's the guy on the losing end...i mean the guy who truly falls in love or even just wants a serious and sincere relationship with the girl...

basta hindi dating psp or mpa etc...

also basta hindi slut...did not sleep around...but in relationship type...

o.m.g.

 

pasensiya na, ngayon lang ako magrereact... i don't like her... hehe! :thumbsupsmiley: (pasensiya na, pranka talaga ako) grabe naman... di man lang siya nagpakitang tao... pasensiya na ha... mukhang pera-pera lang yung sa kanya eh... hay... you deserve someone better! she don't deserve your love, boss... believe me...

i totally agree with you killercath...i think the guy is "risking" a lot giving her his love...and only to be used and abused...

falling in love with a gro or a dancer is not bad. thats if you truly love her. when i say truly it means that your willing to accept everything about her and to where she has been, if you cant take that its not love then.

think about it, if you do fall in love with a woman as such, its up to you if you want her to continue her career or let her stop and give her something else to get busy with. if you think you'd be ashamed of her, then you should think twice why you went in that relationship.

theres a big difference between love and lust, so be careful what you say and how you act towards them.

 

 

yes - it is not bad - BUT it depends if you are loved back...i mean honest love...

just broke up with my gf who is working as a gro. i feel the relationship cant last long. pag kasama ko sya laging nagmamadali. minsan pag wala syang kita hahanapin ako at hihingi ng pera. minsan pag nakit nya friends ko, nagpipilit na ma table sya. alam ko kailangan nya ng pera. try ko na samahan syang mag apply sa ibang work. pero tamad sya mag apply sa iba. pag kasam ko sya feeling ko hindi sya masaya. minsan nasa party kami, hiniram ang cellphone ko at may ka text sya ng 30 minutes. pag tingin ko sa message sent at inbox burado lahat. tapos nakatira pa sya sa house ng byenan nya at sinasabi nya na wala na sila ng asawa nya. sayang minahal ko na sya. napakasakit kuya eddie.

sounds like you were used and abused man...

it seems that you were nothing to her except a provider...siguro nung nalaman niyang in love ka sa kaniya...she played you...

medyo hindi maganda na gagawin niya sa iyo na magpatable sa friends mo...and if your friends did table her, hmmm...medyo dapat pagisipan mo rin kung friends mo talaga sila...

buti na lang nadapa ka at nauntog...

I second the motion. Don't ever lose hope. From what I gather, you've learned your lessons well and became a much better person for it.

as the saying goes, no pain no gain - you will not know fire burns if you don't touch it... :goatee:

She knows what she's done and its consequences. The idea is already a burden for her (whether she intends it/ otherwise). I would not add anymore to her "burden." Kahit nasayang ang pinagsamahan, kahit papano, minahal ko din naman siya, I'll help coz she needs it. However, I'll convince her to have her man to take responsibility for her kahit masakit sa 'kin at iiwan ko siya...i just wana make sure may mag-aalaga sa kanya.

wow, ang bait mo...she knew the consequences before going into it...and she still went through with it...kung hindi siguro nabuntis, hindi mo malalaman...and this is your reaction? c'mon...

Please treat them with respect, they are also human beings with the same feelings, aspirations, dreams as everyone else in this world. They also have rights the same as you and me.

Respect goes both ways...it is given, not demanded...

Dre, would be honored to do so... :cool: Good chance that "You will fall in love.... (lust)"... he he he :upside:

 

Ano Lankaface??? Bigay natin si "C" from "W" kay Bro Dudulover? :cool: Dudulover do you like the "Bollywood Types"?

 

First two rounds on you though.....

why not? maybe one of these days...especially when it is cold and rainy outside...who knows, we might get to meet the killercath or misschelle types na mukhang masarap magmahal...they seem to know how to wrap their arms and legs around you to keep you safe and warm!

Guys pasingit ha....

 

 

Based on experience, hindi ko iniisip na porket nagttrabaho sila sa club ay puro pera na lang ang labanan... sa tingin ko naman ay marami na rin akong naging kaibigan na nagwowork sa clubs... and I feel that they have been sincere with me...

 

Totoo, meron talagang mga babae veteran man or hindi na "pera, pera lang talaga"... as daboy would say it; " trabaho lang, walang personalan..." siguro kasalanan na rin ng mga taong nakasalamuha nila... we must admit na karamihan din naman ng lalakeng nagpupunta dun lalo na sa mga cheap clubs ay mejo magagaspang ang ugali (opinion lang mga tol, nothing personal)...

 

Sa ngayon, feeling ko mas dumarami ang babae na pera pera lang ang labanan... I hope I'm wrong... kasi there are still guys that treat ladies as appropriate... I have fallen in love... many times... masakit kapag nalalaman ko na she's one of those people na pera pera lang... on the other hand, I admire those ladies who open up to me na may anak na sila... those na may bf na...

 

naalala ko tuloy si baby jane ng Miss brunnette aka Gelli ng Miss universe... she even invited me to her debut... dun ako nainlove ng todo... i was open to their family... lagi ko kausap sa phone sya and her sisters. kaso wala eh... I blew it. But she'll always be special...

it seems your handle is a misnomer!!! you are not at a loss for words naman!!! hehe...

tama ang mga nasabi mo...the question really boils down to which came first, the girl or the boy..este. the chicken or the egg...the age old question...nauna ba ang mga lalaking medyo "brusko" ang dating? o nauna ang mga babae na tingin lang eh trabaho lang ito at pera lang kailangan ko? ito ang mga nagshashape ng pagisip ng mga tao di ba?

pero what's more important is, how do you tell who is being honest or sincere?

KOREK K JAN KILLERCATH HIRAP ANG MY MONEY INVOLVE PAG DATING SA LOVE MO MAHIRAP MKIPAG SEX PAG MY MONEY INVOLVE. IISIPIN UN PARTNER MO MONEY LNG ANG HABOL MO PERO D NIYA ALAM LOVE MO N RIN PLA CYA..

may kasabihan nga di ba? money is the root of all evil??? :thumbsdownsmiley: