MidKnight_Tranz

Agree! Agree! We girls won't be so proud to be our clients gf. First.. Our ghost will always hunt us(being labelled as MPA).. We wouldn't be happy too, knowing that some of your friends have seen us inside the aquarium(worst if it is family member). For us,, it'll be our biggest fear to humiliate our loved ones. And whether we like it or not.. We shouldnt feel this crazy little thing called love(hehehe), and if we do.. It will be best to prove it by letting that love go.. Because.. There's no way that worst things won't happen. Reputation is important. And we cannot offer something closer to that... Pinagsawaan na kame,, who are willing to accept us? Only people who doest know our past..

I've been reading alot of your posts and I feel that you believe the opposite of what you are saying. It's just the same thing as saying that you feel that you don't deserve the best. I feel that you say these things to put a strong image here and I believe that deep inside you long for something more, something better.

Nevertheless, should you still insist on your stand I am not here to argue with it.

clients falling in love with mpa's, gro's, and psp's? no way! it's really a big crazy thing. they have to be sweet, thoughtful, and beautiful to lure and entice clients that you shouldn't be carried away your feelings. iba pa din ang educated, formal, malinis na babae ang ihaharap mo sa altar at sa pamilya mo. have patient to look for your wonderful partner na maipagmamalaki mo. think of the future not the libog.

BS, this is the type of attitude that doesn't really sit well with me. I sincerely wish that your daughter wouldn't have to do the things these women do. Otherwise, you just might eat your words.

I am so confused. . . . . It was good I entered this thread. Meron kasi po akong suitor-client and has a family, and the fear of the same fate would happened to me ay 'yun po ang kinakatakutan ko as you said sir trueillusion.

 

I can bear the conscience but the fear na maaaring mangyari sa akin 'yun iwan niya ako ay 'yun ang di ko kakayahin. Also, natawagin akong homewrecker ay medyo masakit din, and sort of karma ay iniisip ko din.

 

So here I am, and trying to be strong and not to get involved at all. Trabaho lang naman ito.

My advise, don't continue with the relationship. I kinda disagree with true illusion that its ok to be the number 2. Everyone deserves to be number 1 and if a person can't give you that theres no reason to stick with a romantic relationship.

Be strong, you deserve what other so called "normal women" deserve. You are not less of a person because of your line of work. The problem is that most if not all MPAs/PSPs/GROs believe that they don't deserve the best in life because alot of men treat them like crap.

I personally look up to these type of women because if I was in their situation I'm sure that I wouldn't be able to do the things that they do. And for that I can say that you guys are better than I am.

to jojo, the guy that I wished for ....

 

I once made a wish. I wished that I would meet this one guy, this one guy that would love me for who I am, who would not make a fool of me, who would stay with me no matter what. I wished that he would be sweet and thoughtful, that he would value me for what I am worth and more.

 

I wished for this guy one night, not knowing if it will come true or not.

 

Days passed by and life went on. Life as I knew it was the same. I wake up, do what needs to be done, and sleep afterwards. I forgot about my wish as life happened.

 

One day. I received a private message from someone. Let's call him WALL-E. He made a comment about a post I made and looked really cute in his pic. Out of boredom and because I was feeling shallow that day, I decided to reply and give him my number which I rarely do. I thought, if he turned out really ugly or whatever, I can just ignore him.

 

He started sending text messages. Lots of it. He was persistent. There were things about him that I learned which made him undesirable in my eyes and so I brushed him off. It did not work.

 

One day, I decided, maybe if he saw me at my ugliest, he'll back off. I met up with him. I met up with him and looked like trash. I wore loose clothing, did not have make up on, and my hair was in disarray. First thing he said to me upon seeing me, "Wow! You're pretty!"

 

Ugh.

 

He continued pursuing and I tried to dodge. I became bitchy, catty, nasty, and just plain rude. It did not work.

 

Eventually I realized he was what I was wishing for. He was this one guy that would love me for who I am, who would not make a fool of me, who would stay with me no matter what. He was sweet and thoughtful, and he valued me for what I was worth and more.

 

He was my wish granted. It seems wishes do come true.

 

Happy 7th month babe ... to many many more ....

I liked this write up. Its a good thing that you came to your senses before it was too late. I'm cheering for you guys

para di OT, break na kami ni girl. may iba siyang bf umamin sa isa kong number na di niya alam na ako. i ask her kung may bf siya kunyari manliligaw ako, sinagot ibang name na guest niya rin. shite huli! putek, they can't be trusted girls at clubs... ang sakit pa ng mga sinabi niya, mahal niya daw yung guest kahit may asawa na... di niya raw alam ang dahilan, bakit kelangan daw ba may dahilan parati kapag nagmamahal? saka mas nauna daw yun sakin... sayang seryoso pa naman ako sa kanya.

 

and for the record, hindi gwapo yung guy at maitim. holy shite nasayang gandang lalake ko! sabi ko sa kanya ang panget ng may asawa na bf niya bat nya ko pinagpalit sa may sabit pa! sabi sakin mayabang daw pala ako at mapanlait lalong ayaw nya na daw sakin... hindi ako ganyan tao, natapakan lang talaga pride ko. pasensiya na mga sir kung mayabang, BITTER lang talaga ako ngayon at nilalabas ko sama ng loob. di naman talaga ako mayabang sa totoong buhay. pero ang sakit sobra ng ginawa niya... buti nalang nakinig parin ako kay tagalupa at di ko binitawan original gf ko, kahit muntik na...

 

add this to 90% here that didn't work out...

It has been a while bro... I feel for you.

Don't worry it will eventually pass. I do hope that you take some learnings in what happened to you and be able to apply it to your life.

A different happy ending: My ex and I are friends right now and I think were better off as friends

I'd be willing to keep the relatioshipship. The question now is, I she willing to keep it. The fact the she cheated means that she was willing to sacrifice the realtionship.

So most probably the realatioship would end because you you need two people to nuture it.

Lonely...

Its a good thing that I have very good friends who i can turn to for support...

Free? I was never trapped in the first place

The great times we had together...

This thread has been in existence for years and the discussion mostly revolved around emotions, financial capabilities, trust and other similar issues. However, it is rare that the element of time is factored in. So what about time you say? Time is an element that these women are up against. Each passing day, they age and proportionally (though perhaps not on a daily basis), their "market value" decreases. The aging process is not on one's side for people engaged in this business. There will be a point in time when the aging process will take its toll on them in either physical, mental, emotional or financial aspects.

 

This brings me to my next point. Is your attraction based on beauty, on their skill, or their seemingly different perspective in life? When they age and they are not beautiful anymore or cannot "perform" like before, would that attraction still exist? When they go out of the industry, integrate with society and regain their "normal" perspective in life, will you still be enamored?

 

The bottom line is this, you met them in this industry, and fell for them in this situation, now, can you continue that commitment with them still in it? Loving someone and expecting them to change will never work, YOU have to change and adapt to the circumstances. After all, they have a reason for being in that situation. One cannot walk around carrying the flag of salvation and expect that things will be equal between the two of you. If it is to be, they will leave on their own volition, simply because it is their decision and not yours, imposed on them.

 

Their situation is very difficult as it is, and another complication certainly will not help. In this situation understanding, discipline and patience are called for, and you must deliver if you are to succeed.

 

Otherwise, wait for the right time.

I must agree that my initial attraction either based on beauty, skill, or their different perspective in life because it is what truly attracts me. Their differnt perspectively in life is truly outside of the norm. As I mentioned, this is the basis of initial attraction. I fall in love with these type of women because I get to know them stripped of their job. I make it a point that I get to know them outside their place of work.

To answer you question "can you continue that commitment with them still in it?"... the answer is yes. I never asked them to stop working. I just give them the option. I never expect them to change. I admit that I have carried the flag of savlation as you mentioned it but I never forced it on them. Maybe the wron thing I did was to show them that I had the flag of salvation ready. I believe that they can't bear the responsibility of pulling another human being into the mess they are into. And for that I have alot of respect for them.

Anyway, I'm out of the relationship already. I'm in the healing process. I can't honestly say that I'd fall for them again. Let's just see what happens next.

BTW, thanks for your point of view.

Moving forward…

Accept

Accept that there are things not under our control. There are forces beyond our experiences that we simply don’t understand. Accept that the relationship is over, and that you’ve done everything in your power to save it. This is where the line in the Barbara Streisand song, “If you love someone then set them free, if they comes back again it was meant to be”. You just have to accept the fact that there is a strong possibility that she wouldn’t be coming back.

Forgive

Forgive your partner for everything wrong that he/she has done. There is no room for bitterness if we truly want to move on. For some this is the hardest part to do. I believe there is a psychology behind that. If a person can’t forgive his/her ex, it’s himself/herself that he/she can’t forgive. Forgive that fact that you allowed this to happen to you. Loving someone is never a sin. Love is such a powerful emotion that I believe there is nothing that would come out wrong as long as everything was done out of the true essence of love. Without forgiveness, the scars would never be healed.

Learn

Reflect on the relationship. Reflect on things that you feel could’ve gone better. Without learning, we are doomed to do the same things over and over again. When we do the same things over and over again it is no fair to expect different results. Absorb all the learning from the relationship. It would make you a better person as whole which improves the chances of having a better relationship in the future.

Love

Love your ex. Just because you broke up doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t love your ex. Wishing him/her well is a better feeling than hoping that he she deserves everything bad. Love is not an emotion that is switched on or off. It is developed. Those who say that they don’t love their ex after the breakup never entered the relationship with the intentions of having it work and entered the relationship for all the wrong reasons. Love for me is unconditional; a relationship doesn’t define how much you love a person a relationship is just a representation of love.

Most important of all is to love yourself. I always believed that you can’t give want you don’t have.

Move forward

Letting go of baggage. Letting go is not destroying/returning or throwing away everything that reminds you of your ex. Letting go is about being ok with what just happened. Going into the next relationship without moving forward doesn’t help your next relationship. You’d just end up comparing all the relationships that you had. Thinking of which relationship is better will never help you have a good relationship. Each relationship is unique. It would not be healthy for the next relationship if you haven’t moved forward.

Live

Don’t let the past hold you back from living your life be it in or out of a relationship. The supreme force behind everything be it God, Allah, Buddah, or what ever name you call it, have bought you all these challenges in preparation for something great.

I just thought of these things a few hours ago and decided to share it. You may agree or disagree with it. These are how I understand how life works based on my experience. This is my truth, it may also be yours

I've been out for about three days and I see that a lot has happened in this thread. I do hope that tempers and emotions are kept on check. I understand both the male and female perspectives and I see that they all seem reasonable.

Just for those who wouldn't want to back read here is my experience in a nutshell...

I've been a club goer and have fallen in love many times with women in that line of work. But the last GF I had was the first one that lived with me here at home. At first we were just flirty within the club but eventually we had a relationship outside the club. We go out, and practically do everything that two people in an intimate relationship do (including introductions to our families). She moved into my place, and we had a grand time. I could say that it was really love that we felt for each other. I can financially support her, unfortunately i can't support her family. That is the reason why I never asked her to stop her work even though deep inside I really wanted to.

I had a talk with her Auntie who also had experience in her line of work and she told me to stop her from working. Her aunt even informed that she (the aunt) would be supporting the family. Bottom line is that she wanted what she thought was best for her niece. We got to talk about this but she still insisted to go to work. I guess she wants some extra money for herself (which I really don't mind). I was very lenient with her and she was free to go do anything, I never stopped her from doing what she wanted. I guess that is where all the problems started. after the first few months together, there would be times she wouldn't go home days at a time. She preferred to stay with friends and work over staying at home with me (again I really didn't mind this as her happiness is what I really wanted). Then there came the time when she was at home she'd ignore me most of the time. Two weeks before Valentines (our monthsary) she left to work at a different place and she lived with her sister which is closer to her place of work. That's when the communications began to subside. I text her everyday but her replies came back too far in between. at that point I really didn't know where the relationship was going. We never had a chance to go out on Valentines Day and a few days later she decided to call it quits. Stating that she wasn't ready for a serious relationship and she was still enjoying her job and friends.

I never faulted her for that. I understood the circumstances of her life and I understood that she was not used to having guys offer what I had to offer. I think it scared her. The thought of leaving everything that she was used too. I chance to drown her problems through booze. Those were the things I can't offer. I can't offer a life that would be the same as her life right now. I wanted a different life for her, I guess she didn't want that. It doesn't matter that we want a better life for them. What matters is what type of life they want to live. I can't force myself or my beliefs on her. I guess the relationship just didn't work on a higher level.

Now its time to move on (move forward). I just devised a plan on how to do that and I feel that it may help some of the people who’s hearts have been broken. I'll share these with you guys on my next post so that I can keep this short.

As always, feedback would be appreciated.

sir, did you break up with her? or she break up with you? i'm confuse right now and having a hard time reading her thoughts...

hmmm... how do I say this... its hard to say who broke up with whom... there was about 1 week of no communication from her part. she doesn't reply to my messages.

Finally one night I gave her a call, she picked the line up and put it down. I gave her another call then she didn't answer.

I sent her a message that this would be the last message she would get from me because I was tired of what was happening to us and that if she wanted to talk that she be the first one to contact me. At this moment I knew I lost her already.

Two days later she texted me thanking me for everything that I did for her. She explained that she was the one at fault. She said she can't show her face to me. She told me that she found out that she was not ready for a serious relationship

I told her that whatever she does that I would still love her. I told her that I respected her decision and that I wish all the happiness the world coud offer.

I can't bring myself to hate her or even be angry... all i feel is sadness. I know this will pass... I guess its time to move forward.

bat kaya ganon. lately di na siya gaano nagtetext di na siya nagaayang lumabas madalas narin ako inaaway... sabi niya natutuwa daw kasi siyang namimiss ko siya, tapos natutuwa rin siyang nagagalit ako tapos mag-babati kami... pero parang palusot nya lang ata yun, i'm wondering tuloy kung may iba ba siya ngayon...

I do hope that your story won't end the way mine did. our relationship just ended and what you just mentioned is very similar to what was happening before we separated

hi milanne, welcome to the thread. maaaliw ka dito haha. im sure marami offers sayo pero you can tell siguro pag totoo yung guy right? the one im seeing also had a lot of offers... yung offer na tipong di na siya magtratrabaho pero ako pa ren pinili niya, eh yung na offer ko lang naman madali sabihin, pero mahirap gawin. pero nagawa ko naman..... LOVE.... happy v-day

Dude, good for you. I sincerely hope it lasts... I'm in dire need of a success story

She can't find time for me and probably we both discovered that we had very few things in common

Yep saer..Hanggang dun na lang talaga kami..Wala rin naman ako plan na balikan cia kc baka mas masakit and may mga masaktan iba..I know masaya na cia ngaun sa buhay nya..Too bad lang nde kami naging magkaibigan..After ng break up namen binisita ko cia, i texted her na baka pede ko cia makausap kahit sandali gusto ko na rin magpaalam sa knya baka last time ko na makikita cia.. Pumunta cia sa table ko pero ramdam ko galit pa rin cia saken and sabi nya wala ako maririnig sa knya or sagot sa mga tanong ko..Sabi ko na lang sa kanya " I still love you, namiss kita oras at araw ng kahapon nde ko alam kung hanggang kailan ko to mararamdaman,wag ka magalala nde ako makikipagbalikan sana lang dumating pa rin yun time na magkakaayos tau as friends man lang..Thanks sa lahat ng pinakita mo and for being true saken..Pinakilala mo kung cno ka na nde mo pinakita sa iba..Thanks sa lahat, u will always be remember and sana nde mo rin ako nakalimutan..Sana makita mo un right guy na mamahalin mo at mamahalin ka higit pa sa ginawa ko..Sana maging masaya ka and ingatan mo lagi sarili mo..U deserve to be happy, u deserve to be love.. I LOVE YOU...GOODBYE...

 

Umalis ako ng club na wala ako narinig sa knya pero ok lang un atleast nasabi ko lahat lahat sa kanya..

 

Bro kung ano man un pinagdadaanan nyo ng girl mo ngaun sana malampasan nyo...Bihira un nagpopost d2 ng may HAPPY ENDING and sana makita namen sa nyo un..Im wishing u all the best and love saer..Let's hope all will ends well and bro ano man mangyari magkaron ka sana ng lakas ng loob tanggapin lahat dahil para din sayo un..Ingat and goodluck..

Thanks for the well wishes sir tagalupa...

We had a talk and we both agreed that we needed some time off. Her clothes are still at home but she's staying with her cousin for the time being. I know what I'd like but I'd also respect her decision. As of the moment I try to manage my expectations to minimize the impact of an adverse decision. Its just hard knowing that when i go home she won't be there.

oops it just hit me. let's say kayo na.... how would you handle the safety issues? most likely she would like to go live, or todo laplapan kayo not knowing who she blew before you... ewan ko, another stumbling block sa relationship na ito. hehe

it really depends on what you plan. if you plan to bang and run, always be safe. if you truly love her and are in it for the long run, the past shouldn't matter but it wouldn't hurt both of guys get checked.

Yep saer almost 2months na rin..Una akala ko enuf na un LOVE para magwork out un ganito relasyon..Hindi rin pala, madami kailangan..Pero wala ako naging regret sa lahat ng ngyari..Naging masaya ako and lam ko kahit papano naging masaya din cia..Ok na rin un ganito para mahanap nya un real happines na gusto nya..Hindi cia ordinary club girl and nakita ko sa kanya un, nde lang cgro ako deserving sa kanya, nde ko sinasabi ako lang may kasalanan, lam din naman nya na may pagkukulang cia..She deserve someone better and nde ako..Gusto ko parin makita cia masaya and mahalin ng guy na karapatdapat sa kanya.. I missd her badly pero hanggang dun na lang un..Cguro hanggang ngaun mahal ko parin cia and cgro wala na cia nararamdaman saken..Nakapagmove on agad ako kc una pa lang sinabi ko na "KUNG MAY LAKAS AT TIBAY AKO LIGAWAN CIA,MERON DIN AKO LAKAS AT TIBAY NA TANGGAPIN NA PWEDE NDE KAMI BAGAY SA ISA'T ISA" She will always be FOREVER and SPECIAL para saken..

 

Bro, payo ko lang kung cgrado ka tlga sa nararamdaman mo sa kanya, magkaron ka din ng lakas at tibay na loob tanggapin na pede ka msaktan..Hindi masama mainlab sa kanila pero kaya mo ba tanggapin lahat? Kung nde ka sure wag mo na ituloy dahil baka pareho kau masaktan..Eventhough its not always found in the most ideal places...LOVE..IS STILL LOVE...

interesting points.

i really like the possiblities you mentioned. personally I already asked a club girl to stay at my place. We're currently living together. There are ups and downs in the realtionship and as of this moment we're on a slide. It really is nice to know that there are people in similar situations because it is through you guys that I discover new horizons... different perspectives...

Based on your statement sir taglupa, i'm assuming that you guys are already decided to end the relationship. I trully am sorry that it had to happen. I take strength in your words:

"KUNG MAY LAKAS AT TIBAY AKO LIGAWAN CIA,MERON DIN AKO LAKAS AT TIBAY NA TANGGAPIN NA PWEDE NDE KAMI BAGAY SA ISA'T ISA"

As of this moment I'm expecting the worst, and at the same time wishing for the best.

I guess that's just the way I cope up with things.

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well, for me it's the love. we broke up about 5 months ago... I actually I broke up with here because I loved her, to igve her space and time to make a choice. Some people who know my situation said that it was good that I broke up with her and some said that I should've held on.

Anyways, the hard part is that we still see each other from time to time but I noitced that the intimacy between us died down. During the early periods she still kissed me without me having to make a move but right now she doesn't even hold my hand... I told her that I noticed that and I just couldn't control the tears when I told her that i noticed that she didn't even touch my hold anymore (we had a special ritual on how to express our love through holding hands, at times I preferred it over sex and kisses because it was intimate and it was real)... after that she gave me a kiss that I would never forget. Alas, I feel that its time to let go and move on, its just hard to accept that I may not be seeing her again because in order for me to move on I have to allow my feelings for her subside.

Anyways, I will always remember the love that I have for her.