vincechase

Inter-Course! :thumbsupsmiley:

Seriously, I would have liked to take a Ph.d in Economics, preferably at the University of Chicago, under a Nobel prize winning professor. Thereafter, I would train at the I.M.F or World Bank as one of their economists. Finally, I would have liked to work in NEDA as its Director General, receive a 200 million peso bribe for approving a screwy project (of course, not telling the Senate Blue Ribbon Committee about it), retire in the Bahamas.

Chad how old are you? Do we need to say what to do?

Peace bro, easy bro. While I agree with you that we need not tell Chad what to do, I believe this is a support group for some people. It is certainly for me. The issue of right or wrong is actually no longer a proposition to be argued, we all know the answer. What adds spice are the complications and peculiarities. Just like expensive watches, the relationships here are subject to many complications. While some people would be content with using a Casio watch, many of us opt to use Jaeger-LeCoutres and Lange and Sohnes (that will explode in our face when the time comes).

Brother, I feel your pain. May mga guys talagang tulad natin..likhang mapagmahal at mapagbigay(naks!). But on the other hand, some of the other guys have a valid point too. Dati puso ang pinaiiral ko, but after realizing how the whole system (Vicious circle) works , I got smarter. You know you can control it pre, you just simply chose not to. Well, whatever makes you comfortable and you think you could afford it.. why not diba?I'm right behind you.. I wouldn't mind doing it again for someone special.. that I know deserves it. Yung second to the last na GRO na naka fling ko.. MUKHANG PERA talaga kala mo may ipinatago kung makahingi. Tell you what though, she got more that what she bargained for. Didnt call her up after 2 dates. Ginamit ko lang siya..manigas siya!!!Ok lang magbigay kung alam kong kailangan niya.. just not too obvious ba...I know I'm dumb when I'm horny.. but certainly not stupid heheheheheheh...

Bro, the funny thing is even if you will tell your brain to take over your heart, the opposite happens when you are with HER. I wanna believe I can control it. The complicated part of this relationship is she never asks for money. Which makes me love her more. Until now I am amazed why she even entered into this profession, when in fact she has a more than normal home life. She is not rich but she seems to be not in want.

best of luck vinny :flowers:

Iwalkalone, thank you for your felicitations and the flowers. You are one person who inspires me to write my feelings in this thread. I always value your insights.

"When we are together, it beats everything that I've experienced before. I've been literally all around the world and the key to my happiness is with her. I wish it will never end, but I know for a fact that it will. Reality bites. I guess the fact that I know that the relationship is finite makes it all the more intense."

 

I think this is how you approach this relationship - enjoy every moment, but don't presume too much

I try not to presume too much. But the fact is, I miss HER. I see her in all the beautiful things that I see. Yet I know she will not end up me. The heart works in a funny way doesnt it. If it does not, we would end up like robots.

Vinny, just go with the flow, but remember you're using each other. Don't expect her to tell you the truth, we're in it not for their honesty and frankness. Don't expect her to drop everything if you're not going to drop everything for her.

If she can lie to her family, I know she lies to me. I remember Quincy Jones' song "If I ever lose this Heaven". "If your lying, keep on lying, don't tell the truth don't you dare."

I feel for you, amigo, we're on the same boat. SHE really never asks for anything too, even treated me out during my birthday,but out of i dunno, i still give her a substantial amount of cash slipping it into her jeans pocket. Although she knows i still have a commitment,She keeps assuring me and reassuring me that she loves me, i was quite skeptical at first, after what ive been through.(she belongs to the top 3 of one of two classy MPs here in QC,maybe belonging to the real 10%)). I just make the most out of the little time we share(twice a week, outside,sometimes absenting herself from work) and give what i feel is "due". "mahirap mamangka sa dalawang ilog pero posible at masarap basta magaling kang lumangoy,he,he.Being a married man, part of my prayers before i go to sleep every night, is that this doesnt reach that point wherein i have to make a choice between the wife and kid and this very lovable person.

You know its wrong, and yet you are hoping things will turn out right. Thats what I always feel.

at para naman di ot...i suggest iwasan nyong pahulugin loob nila sa inyo...kung wala naman sa pagkatao nyo yung mag seseryoso sa mga ganitong klase ng babae....kawawa naman sila...they've been through alot...di na dapat dagdagan pa. Iwasan nyong makipagkita sa kanila outside the workplace...nagiging personal na kase pag ganun...it will only complicate matters....for both of you.

Dearest Iwalkalone:

I think this piece of advice is far too late for me. I see HER every week outside (this is our seventh month). While she never asks for anything, I make sure to put a substantial amount of cash in her bag. "Is this love?" I'm not sure anymore, but I sure hope so. She says she loves me, and for always. I'm positive that she has a busload of admirers. I'm realistic in the sense that she may be seeing other guys. So, when we are together I make the most out of it because I know its literally borrowed time and will not last forever. But what does? When we are together, it beats everything that I've experienced before. I've been literally all around the world and the key to my happiness is with her. I wish it will never end, but I know for a fact that it will. Reality bites. I guess the fact that I know that the relationship is finite makes it all the more intense.

Vinny

doesn't matter if u have none..opkors i will

 

Will you still love me if i had 6 nipples?http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Call_gurl/rofl.gif

Sure I will, it means we can have a litter of six kids at any given time.

Will you still love me if I was Saddam Hussein's illegitimate son (don't tell the Americans), with matching putok (pero walang amoy)?

will u love me if i wus an alcoholic?

As long as Vodka is your poison of choice! No beers and tequila please.

Will you still love me, even if I only have one testicle?

First break up with the first woman in my life (high school), I went catatonic and nearly had a nervous breakdown :cry: .

Second break up with the second woman in my life (college), I got depressed, moved on, got depressed, moved on. This went on for five years. I really wanted to marry her and raise a family. Went to Europe to forget her. She is always in the society pages, so I still get haunted by her .

Third break up with the third woman in my life (law school), she dumped me, wanted me, dumped me and wanted me. Finally I got tired and dumped her. I went drinking with my fraternity brothers and got laid with a wild chick.

Fourth break up with the Fourth Woman in my life (law school), I dumped her after getting tired of her nagging :grr: . I was so numb I could not feel sh.it.

Face.... she must have that X factor that makes my heart race.....

I would not know from the few sentences you just typed.

I would have to know you personally and experienced your nagging personally.

 

If your BF says you are a nagger, then you are a nagger from his point of view.

Tell him to count the ways in which you are.

 

My own mother was always very conscious about never to be labelled as a nagger because she knew that being branded a nagger means you will be dismissed by your husband and your own children.

 

Nagging is ABUSE towards men.

It is worse than slapping him or punching him.

Men can only take so much nagging.

Kung GF pa lang nagger na... eh mabuti pa hiwalay na lang agad, baka lumala pa.

 

Is nagging natural for some women? Yes it is. It is also natural for men to HATE naggers and AVOID naggers altogether.

 

Just wanted to show you the gravity of the accusation that you are a nagger from the POV of your bf.

Nagging is a BIG DEAL. Nagging is ABUSE.

You are on your way out of a relationship if BF thinks you are a nagger and you fail to fix this problem.

There are ways for you to "improve" your BF, and nagging will not do it, there are better ways.

Bravo! Bravissimo! This is exactly what I want to tell certain girls I know! I second that bro!

will probably enjoy kissing and cuddling with her more than the act itself.. although how i wish i could spend my money on a romantic dinner with her and countless hours of talking, cuddling, and hugs instead of getting her at her work..

Dude, maniwala ka sa akin, there will still be romantic dates and countless hours of talking after sleeping with her. In fact, if things go well after, it will be your choice to proceed or not to proceed.

Self esteem is also an issue to guys, congratulations to those who were able to develop enough self-esteem to put them selves into where they are now... Some men also think they will never get a girl who will love them for who they are... And so they end up going to ktvs massage parlor and you know now...

 

I think i can explain why either a guy or a girl or a gro/mp ends up choosing some thing they dont want...

 

According to feng shui man is born with 3 different kinds of luck, namely the heavenly luck, mankind luck and the earthly luck...

They say heavenly luck is alway present to anyone... but it hardly has any effect. The mankind luck and the earthly luck is the most influencial if you are able to activativte one of these then things might get your way...

 

The mankid luck is the kind of luck that we make... yun tipong swerte yun nabili mong t-shirt kaya marami ang naatract sayo... or swerte yun nabili mo kotse kaya marami ang gusto makisakay...

 

The earthly luck is the way we live in harmony with our environment.... Yun tipong hindi ka pasaway.. you follow the rule of your institution kaya mabait ang officemate mo sayo at ok din ang bayad sayo...

 

I think somepipol could not activate thier mankind luck leaving them to the "dungeons" of life, and once they are there, they loose hope and at the same time loose thier self-esteem... thus leaving them with no choice but do it the unaccepted way... and turning thier self into slaves of thier own...

 

I am one of the living proof of that. There was a time na sobra talagang wala na ko... as in i just want to die... hindi ko na nga naisip yun pamilya ko... buti nalang a chinese man told me to try Feng shui... Kinda it helped... i was able to activate my mankind luck... Although nasa half plang ang effect nya... it bailed me out of trouble... ngayon i have a new self esteem.. kahit paano i am gaining grounds in the dating arena, unklike before nasa isang sulok lang talaga ako....

Dude, I'm a firm believer in Feng Shui, but I believe your comments apply even to ordinary working women we date. It just so happens that the girls here are MPAs, PSPs or GROs. Boy, I had been slave to love of a "de buena familia"(the family had been well-off for 150 years) woman, it did not make much of a difference, I dug my own dungeon and created my own hell.

No offense meant, but isnt it that we are infatuated by the MP's we had encountered. Because it all starts with how they look physically, Im not a hypocrite and I have a low tolerance for hypocrisy. But its a fact that most of us want someone we can show off to the public whether in malls or in bars so that we can be noticed. But heck, is this all there is to love them, just for show? Im just wondering...

Aga dre, I kinda disagree on this. Yes, everything starts on the physical plane, whether it be an MPA or an office lady. All of us are attracted to our beloved this way, and they also do to us. However, having a woman as a trophy to show around is no longer my thing at this stage in my life. Then what is it? It is an innate quality of the woman that gets me. Perhaps not intelligence, but that kindness in her that I normally don't see in other women. Believe me, I've had sex with countless women, unpaid, paid, loved, lusted, to the point my prostate is so sore from doing it, some women more beautiful than the next. In the end, it is an innate quality that endears me. My eldest brother would say "you can't fu.ck kindness", I say you can.

that is also what went into my mind the first time i texted mp girl.

 

I would often think that his ex-bf might be some insecure freak who does not have confidence about himself that he settled with an mp girl..

 

But the more I get to know her, the more I realize, hey, she is REAL, she is NICE, she is someone you could love and take seriously..

 

She is in fact sweeter and more lovable than other girls i have met.. and i haven't paid her a single centavo to do that..

 

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although being with her on a date, i do felt that im so handsome (feeling lang naman e..hehehe).when guys would stare at her in awe.. :cool:

She seems to have that innate kindness I'm talking about, SO SLEEP WITH HER MR. THUG!!!!!!!

..you might not be aware.. girls who are celebs in a high end KTV's and MP's definitely earns more than you do.. you will be ashamed if you try to figure out how much they are earning in a month.. probably not even half of what we are earning..

i dated a number 1 in a class A Mp.. this was a clean date.. she even offered me share for the expenses.. and the restos where she eats, are the more expensive classy ones, which I haven't even tried..

 

she's even the one who calls me on the cellphone..

 

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and yes i did fall in love.. she said she is a bit confused about her feelings for me.. .. i even cried when she does not want to talk to me on the phone, i know she also cried and she said "alam mo next meet natin i ki kiss talaga kita sa lips.." .. though she said she loves me, but not fully, she even tells me i remind her so much of her xbf.. she said, the longer we talk on the phone.. the more she likes me, as she said that I sound so much like her xbf..

she would even wake me up by early in the morning like 6am or 5am by texting me since that was my schedule to to run or go to the gym.. i am so flattered with her effort..

 

she is so real.. i really know her true personality.. she is so responsible.. taking the responsilities from her parents and older siblings.. even taking care of a baby relative like a true mom.. i know she makes a good mother....

i just feel im not good enough for her and can't be like her xbf, and do all things that her xbf has done for her.. it is a tough task for me..i'm so pressured.. even more pressured with all other guys and suitors around her..it is so torturous.. i just wish her happiness.. I told her i will always be here for her, if and when other bf's do not love her well enough and fail..

and no, i haven't had sex with her, not even once.. it was not her looks nor her being good in bed that attracts me ..it was something.. something that i feel in my heart, in my mind, in my soul..

I guess what you are trying to put across in the first half of your post is that these ladies should not be pitied because their salaries are higher than most guys. In certain instances I agree. What I realized though based on my talks with some of my MPA friends is there is an overwhelming "personal esteem" problem going on and it influences the guys they get. Sometimes they feel that they will never get a guy who will love them for who they are, they end up choosing less than they deserve like bummy guys, married guys and a host of other problematic men, which ergo leads to problematic relationships.

The second part of your post is what happened between you and the MPA you love. Honestly, I feel that you have idealized her too much, she is in fact in the pedestal we have talked about in the previous pages.

I think you should go ahead and sleep with her if you can, damn go to the MP and get her! Get it over with. Find out how she feels about sleeping with you!

Now, if the feelings are the same, congratulations! You have met someone special. If in fact she falls off the pedestal, it saves you from all of that heartache and all those thoughts of what could have been.

Man, I hate this whole "I'll be there for you when you need me" crap, it belongs to a long forgotten Al Jarreau song. Take initiative and do it. Believe me you will not regret it. :thumbsupsmiley:

Sabi nga ni Andrew E, humanap ka ng pangit at ibigin mong tunay, hahaha I have this friend who's gorgeous but is now in a 3-yr live-in relationship with a pug-ugly guy na unemployed, really short, and hits her. She works in a club and supports the guy by prostituting herself. She even supports the guy's addiction to crack. Di mabait, di romantic, it's really a big question mark for me. Good in bed? Maybe, hehe

had a guy officemate before.. he looks more like chiquito.. ni hindi mo nga iisipin na magkaka gf yun e.. pero dinala sa opis yung gf nya..whoa! ang ganda.. amputi..ankinis.. campus beauty pala MS PCU..

 

e dati syang instructor dun.. ewan ko ba.. kung ano pinakain nun dun.. gusto ko ngang hingin yung anting-anting nya e.. hehehe..

 

lahat kameng magkaka opismate nagtataka talaga.. pero accept naman nya.. kape't gatas talaga sila..hehehe..

This reminds me of the "Sex and the City" episode called UGLY SEX I guess falling in love with ugly guys is not any different from eating blue cheese, it stinks, it has molds, not everybody likes it, but hey, its an acquired taste :sick: .

New Wave ruled in the 80's...

 

But the among songs I loved to hear were Mondo Cane's "Everlasting Love (in an ever changing world)" and "New York Afternoon"

These are not quite new wave but a re-emerging disco-like bands in the mid-eighties produced by Stock-Aitken-Waterman (producers of Rick Astley).

These are great tunes, I remember dancing away in Euphoria (or Ew-phoria as the con(y)os would pronounce it) with songs like these. Damn, naala-ala ko tuloy yung model na di-na-date ko noon. Ayyyy sarap lapain.

My favorite soundtrack is the from my favorite Movie (Nuovo) Cinema Paradiso, Ennio Morricone's "Childhood to Manhood" (it was played to mark the relationship of Salvatorre with his surrogate father Alfredo and it reminds me of the men who took care of me in my life, my dad, my yayo and my uncle who have all since passed away), "Looking for you" (the Love theme with all the smooching scenes, reminds me of all the women I've loved, kissed and slept with, aaaah such wonderful women) and the main theme (sobrang galing lang). It brings me to the most romantic of moods. Feeling ko, ako yung bida si Salvatorre DiVita. :flowers:

Seriously, based from my own personal experience, pag pangit, pangit din ang ugali. Dami kseng insecurities at galit sa mundo ang mga pangit. Kaya ayoko ng pangit. :hypocritesmiley:

Interestingly true, most of my friends who are not so good looking (ok na nga Panget, lets call a spade a spade) specially when they are short (ok na nga, pandak) always have something to prove (lets call it the "small man complex"). They always have to tell me the last beautiful woman they fu.cked, and how they did it. It makes me kinda wonder if it is all true, but in the end its the (bad) thought that counts. Likewise, what's the freagin pre-occupation all about? :grr:

Lastly, I have this Calauit Island theory.

I believe handsome guys are like the animals in Calauit Island (in Palawan where Bongbong Marcos brought African Animals to raise), they don't have natural predators, so much so that they never develop their hunting and evasion skills very well. Their personalities are not very well honed. Ergo, they get what falls on them (in some cases gorgeous women).

As for ugly guys, they are like the animals in the African safari, they have to survive by developing great hunting and evasion skills. They can therefore hunt the prey they want, ergo, beautiful women.

I love seeing my not so handsome friends stalking and bringing down beautiful women, its like watching the National Geographic Channel. May music tune pa nga running in my head like tan, tun, tan, tun, tan...........(tune of National Geographic please).

According to my elder brother...."Because the Pangets, they give it their ALL!"

This says a lot, because ugly guys, like some of my friends, do things twice better than my handsome friends. They love to overdo things, generally this sweeps the ladies off their feet. When I was in high school, this never worked because young girls like guapo guys. Interestingly, as one gets through college, grad school and work, the girls tone down their desire for handsome men, preferring ordinary guys (sometimes butt ugly guys) with interesting personalities and even better when they have a shitload of money. Funny though is that guys, whether ugly or handsome are in most cases the same. They get tired of their relationships the same way. I guess having sex with a beautiful woman is like airconditioning, after a while you don't notice that its there and will eventually take it for granted, that is, until it disappears. So it is therefore a fallacy for girls to think that their ugly beaus (what a fu.cking oxymoron) will always be faithful because they will not find a better catch.

being ugly (if you say you are) does not guarantee that you'd be a good catch either...

 

beautiful people ... even when they're bad...they're still beautiful

 

ugly people...nakakabulag yan habang mabait pa....but when their true colors emerge....double ugly na sila....at ang mararamdaman mong pagsisisii...at katangahan...soooobrah...promise

 

peace.

I always tell my lady friends, try to be in love with a good looking someone you desire, at least if he strays, you have a handsome unfaithful husband. But if you get an ugly guy and he strays, you'll end up with an unfaithful ugly husband (para kang nalokong dalawang beses, pangit na, unfaithful pa). :wacko:

In your most afro-american accent.... Ho-ney you're too good for me! I don't deserve ya!

Damn, bakit ako di nag-showbiz!

uh-oh...she refuses to move in with you?

i can feel it coming....

teka check ko nga kung may tissue pa ko sa bag...baka wala na ah ...

 

" Perhaps, one reason why girls fool around even when they are kept by a sincere guy is that they lose their autonomy, think about it."

 

wrong... they fool around...cus they are unfaithful... what makes them so?....either it's their nature or they really don't love the guy ...

Thanks for the comments, I'll keep them in mind. For now things look great, I'm enjoying her company and she enjoys mine. I feel great. If things screw up, I know I have you guys to lift me up or at least some folks to tell me "I told you so!" For the meanwhile there is this overwhelming and exploding feeling of love that cannot be compared, if I cannot feel this way I'd rather not live at all. I guess most of the folks would say, little moth don't go near the flame, but little moth likes because it makes life worth living. The chance, the happiness, the lovemaking compares to none other that I've experienced before. Its not the mechanical sex part (I've had others who are more skilled). Haven't you folks ever felt that your souls are intertwined with your partner when you are making love? That's the feeling I get when I'm lost in her arms. I've never felt that before. :heart:

yaan mo na...abangan na lang natin yung mga susunod na kabanata ng post nya....mga tol....ready nyo na tissues nyo! wahahaha

i think he's referring to yours tapos na yung kay etetski eh

Thanks for the warning sister. Right now things are just right, she knows my limitations and I know her's. Sometimes it burns me that some other guys are doing her. But I have to keep it real, so I step back a little to rationalize. I can't pull her out and support her (though I can), I realize that there is an issue of freedom with some girls. They don't like to be housed by a Papa (no matter how young the Papa is). I think its an issue of dignity and independence vs. selling sex. In some cases selling sex is easier to deal with than losing one's independence. Perhaps, one reason why girls fool around even when they are kept by a sincere guy is that they lose their autonomy, think about it.

For know, I'm happy when I see her and she's happy to see me. Infatuation, perhaps. I believe all true love comes originally from infatuation. True love is distilled infatuation that has withstood the immense test of time.

The question is are you in love or just infatuated? lets be honest. In the end is this mutual or not>

 

Come to think of it, love is not a feeling. Its a decision. Hence, no matter what, you will stick by your decision. Simple isnt it.

 

So have you decided or not and has she?

Pareng Rico, you are referring to the posts of Etetski, right?

:goatee: Well nohings wrong to fall for those type of girls..

 

:cool: Main thing is one time in your life you follow your heart and made your self happy. Even for such a short time if your relationship did not last. Atleast you had tried and love the Psp/GRO/MPA you fall for.

 

:cool: For me its better that you had made your life happy even for such a short time. Than never had tried and you will regret it someday that you never let go you feeling.. :cool:

 

:cool: Again only my opinion... :cool:

This is exactly what I'm doing now. Where it will lead to, I really really don't know!

For the first time in years, I'm happy, smiling.... and while I'm not old in fact, I'm 18 again!

While, I walk, I can hear the BEE GEES singing Staying Alive, like the time Bart Simpson fell in love.

One common theme, I seem to see in this thread is that the MPAs, Psps and GROs we are falling in love with have common denominators.

Its not beauty, but its a plus. Etetsky, I'm sure you are exposed to beautiful stewardesses who practically throw themselves at you.

Heck, its not the sex (I've had super fantastic and extremely great sex with a truck load of women who I will never fall in love with regardless of profession). But there has to be some sort of mental chemistry.

It appears that the women have:

1) intelligence;

2) a promising educational backround :hypocritesmiley:

3) been forced into the profession by need; :cry: and

4) the potential of being happy with you.

Now, whether your love will be reciprocated is totally within the personality of the girl. I agree with Iwalkalone that being cheated by a woman has nothing to do with her profession, it just so happens that she is into the trade. Likewise, in most cases because they are in need, the person who willingly gives becomes a tempting offer that cannot be refused. But in the end it all boils down to whether or not she really loves you. Which brings us back to the same problem. How do you know if it is real?