BigMarcus6 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 How does this one works could you explain this machine. Me nurse kasi kami tatlo round the clock. For my dad bed ridden stroke sya last year pa. Eto yung sinusuot sa wrist. Digital siya. Just press a button and in a few seconds, lalabas ang BP mo and heart rate. Quote Link to comment
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floppydrive Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 (edited) Hypertensive din ako. Been on meds for almost a decade. For me, regular exercise is the best way to control hypertension. On days that I exercise, my doctor advised me not to take my regular meds. Without medication, my BP is 150/100. On meds, it's 130/80. With exercise, it goes down to 100/60. Edited July 17, 2013 by floppydrive Quote Link to comment
Papa Jack Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 Eto yung sinusuot sa wrist. Digital siya. Just press a button and in a few seconds, lalabas ang BP mo and heart rate. Any idea magkano sir. Ballpark figure. Quote Link to comment
Papa Jack Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 Hypertensive din ako. Been on meds for almost a decade. For me, regular exercise is the best way to control hypertension. On days that I exercise, my doctor advised me not to take my regular meds. Without medication, my BP is 150/100. On meds, it's 130/80. With exercise, it goes down to 100/60. Sana wag mo ikagalit how old are you sir?? And what kind of exercise ginagawa mo. May I knowKindly share it. Quote Link to comment
Fusarium_jimini Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Yup bro... silent killer nga ang high blood pressure. In my case, I'm in maintenance already... taking 10mg of Norvasc as advised by my doctor. Without the meds... my BP normally is at 140 / 110... catch with Norvasc (at least first couple of days/weeks) felt sluggish... ngayon ok na. I'm trying to get more physical activities... I used to be an athlete (taekwondo - welterweight) in my high school and college days... and regularly went to the gym... of course everything went south when I started working... I'm now overweight 40lbs. always monitor your BP when you're taking Norvasc or any generic amlodipine homologue. One of its common side-effect is too much drop in the diastolic BP (e.g. 130/50 mmHg) Eto yung sinusuot sa wrist. Digital siya. Just press a button and in a few seconds, lalabas ang BP mo and heart rate.The problem with automated BP reader is that, it has an error of + and - 5 mmHg on BP readings.. E.g. A 125/85 mmHg BP reading may actually be as high as 130/90 (mild HPN) or as low as 120/80 (optimum BP).. Then you would have to consider the site..no studies I know of was done compared the reproducibility of antecubital BP by a wrist BP. if You have a nurse/caregiver or if you have the aneroid sphygmomanometer then much better.. Hypertensive din ako. Been on meds for almost a decade. For me, regular exercise is the best way to control hypertension. On days that I exercise, my doctor advised me not to take my regular meds. Without medication, my BP is 150/100. On meds, it's 130/80. With exercise, it goes down to 100/60.Yep, there is still hope that by diet and exercise alone, you would be taken of your maintenance meds (ONLY by our cardiologist, AND assuming you don't have any co-morbidities contributing to your hypertension, like diabetes or heart disease) Sana wag mo ikagalit how old are you sir?? And what kind of exercise ginagawa mo. May I knowKindly share it. Philippine Heart Center for Asia has a very nice exercise regimen tailored for post-bypass and inoperable patients with heart disease alike. Btw, try dropping by at any medical supplies store along avenida (near bambang) for cheap automated BP monitors like Omron brand. 1 Quote Link to comment
norbeL Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Any idea magkano sir. Ballpark figure. 1.5 - 4k range. merong better sa wrist digital bp. Quote Link to comment
Papa Jack Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 <br />always monitor your BP when you're taking Norvasc or any generic amlodipine homologue. One of its common side-effect is too much drop in the diastolic BP (e.g. 130/<b><font color="#ff0000">50</font></b> mmHg)<br /><br /><br />The problem with automated BP reader is that, it has an error of + and - 5 mmHg on BP readings..<br /><br />E.g. A 125/85 mmHg BP reading may actually be as high as 130/90 (mild HPN) or as low as 120/80 (optimum BP)..<br /><br />Then you would have to consider the site..no studies I know of was done compared the reproducibility of antecubital BP by a wrist BP.<br /><br />if You have a nurse/caregiver or if you have the aneroid sphygmomanometer then much better..<br /><br /><br />Yep, there is still hope that by diet and exercise alone, you would be taken of your maintenance meds (ONLY by our cardiologist, AND assuming you don't have any co-morbidities contributing to your hypertension, like diabetes or heart disease)<br /><br /><br /><br />Philippine Heart Center for Asia has a very nice exercise regimen tailored for post-bypass and inoperable patients with heart disease alike.<br /><br />Btw, try dropping by at any medical supplies store along avenida (near bambang) for cheap automated BP monitors like Omron brand.<br /><br /><br /><br /> Thanks doc. For helping us. Dito. Quote Link to comment
Papa Jack Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 1.5 - 4k range. merong better sa wrist digital bp. Thank you sir Quote Link to comment
powerpuffgirls Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Add ko lang po after eating , wait for about 15 mins till 30 mins before taking your bp kc if ever tapos kayo kumain at nag pacheck up kayo ng bp, meron tendency na tataas bp , meron pa pong contributing factor pag taas ng bp like drinking coffee, stress, pagod, nerbyos.etc.. Since meron po pala kayo papa jack na nurse, alam na nila yan, napag aralan nila yan and wag po kayo self medicate always consult your doctor if anong gamot ang kapad nyo. and if ever, meron adverse effects sa sa inyo na reseta ng doktor, sabihin nyo agad sa doktor, so he may be able to replace it.. Always remember since iba na din lifestyle natin ngayon, pag hypertensive ka kaakibat na din yung meron diabetes, cardio problem. Magpipinsan na mga sakit, yan na complication ang susunod.. PAPA JACK di ko po sa tinatakot. Hehehe.. kasi ganyan po kasi father ko, ako bale ng monitor sa health nya. Hheee....ingat! Quote Link to comment
Papa Jack Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 Add ko lang po after eating , wait for about 15 mins till 30 mins before taking your bp kc if ever tapos kayo kumain at nag pacheck up kayo ng bp, meron tendency na tataas bp , meron pa pong contributing factor pag taas ng bp like drinking coffee, stress, pagod, nerbyos.etc.. Since meron po pala kayo papa jack na nurse, alam na nila yan, napag aralan nila yan and wag po kayo self medicate always consult your doctor if anong gamot ang kapad nyo. and if ever, meron adverse effects sa sa inyo na reseta ng doktor, sabihin nyo agad sa doktor, so he may be able to replace it.. Always remember since iba na din lifestyle natin ngayon, pag hypertensive ka kaakibat na din yung meron diabetes, cardio problem. Magpipinsan na mga sakit, yan na complication ang susunod.. PAPA JACK di ko po sa tinatakot. Hehehe.. kasi ganyan po kasi father ko, ako bale ng monitor sa health nya. Hheee....ingat! Thank you. Quote Link to comment
powerpuffgirls Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 (edited) hmmm,. One thing more PAPA JACK wag tigas ulo ha, wag kakain ng salty food kc yung sodium nagpapataas ng bp yan, i saw one of your mtc posts here, WHAT ARE YOU EATING NOW thread, doritos, junk food,high in sodium content po yan. Do not drink alcohol, smoke yan one of the contributing factors to hypertension,too.Try to search via net about DASH ( dietary approach to stop hypertension) . Eto po isa nakita ko.http://www.cumc.columbia.edu/student/health/pdf/Dietary%20Approaches%20to%20Stop%20Hypertension.pdfmaski pa check up kayo ng pa check up at ang tigas ng ulo nyo na hindi sundin ang bilin ng doktor wala din saysay po ang consultation and medication nyo.if ever po meron ulam na baboy, pakitanggal po yung taba or for example beef sinigang alam po natin na meron pong sebo yun, so what i do para di naman po ma deprive, just like my dad, ng karne sa pagkain nya, hiwalay ko po sya at palamigin and after a while meron po lulutang sa taas ng beef sinigang yung sebo nya, scrape ko po yun at itapon, imagine pag yun po nakarating sa arteries natin. Also, banana nga po pala wag alisin sa diet nyo since rich in potassium po yan... Ingat lagi, lagi nyo pong tatandaan kung ano po idineposit / invest nyo sa katawan nyo, pagtanda po natin yun po ang matatanggap natin.. Kaya ingatan nyo lagi health nyo PAPA JACK Edited July 17, 2013 by powerpuffgirls Quote Link to comment
Papa Jack Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 hmmm,. One thing more PAPA JACK wag tigas ulo ha, wag kakain ng salty food kc yung sodium nagpapataas ng bp yan, i saw one of your mtc posts here, WHAT ARE YOU EATING NOW thread, doritos, junk food,high in sodium content po yan. Do not drink alcohol, smoke yan one of the contributing factors to hypertension,too.Try to search via net about DASH ( dietary approach to stop hypertension) . Eto po isa nakita ko.http://www.cumc.colu...ypertension.pdfmaski pa check up kayo ng pa check up at ang tigas ng ulo nyo na hindi sundin ang bilin ng doktor wala din saysay po ang consultation and medication nyo.if ever po meron ulam na baboy, pakitanggal po yung taba or for example beef sinigang alam po natin na meron pong sebo yun, so what i do para di naman po ma deprive, just like my dad, ng karne sa pagkain nya, hiwalay ko po sya at palamigin and after a while meron po lulutang sa taas ng beef sinigang yung sebo nya, scrape ko po yun at itapon, imagine pag yun po nakarating sa arteries natin. Also, banana nga po pala wag alisin sa diet nyo since rich in potassium po yan... Ingat lagi, lagi nyo pong tatandaan kung ano po idineposit / invest nyo sa katawan nyo, pagtanda po natin yun po ang matatanggap natin.. Kaya ingatan nyo lagi health nyo PAPA JACK Thanks I will remember everything you have advice. Quote Link to comment
powerpuffgirls Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 oo nga pala (feeling doktor na ako hehehe). Please make sure all in your household marunong silang kumuha ng bp , mas mainam po yung mercurial or aneriod sphygmomanometer, in my opinion, accurate po yun, just like fusarium_jimini have posted above, yung digital meron din pong error yun..Kaya kayo alam nyo din pano kumuha ng bp nyo hehehe, malay loko lang kayo ng bp result ng nurse nyo hehehe.... JOKE!Learn to know the systolic and diastolic, too..just like my dad, explain ko po sa kanya ganito pagkuha ng bp and yung sa medication nyo po pala, basahin nyo yung literature nya, if ever wala kayong maintindihan na medical term dun, consult mr. Google, or ask your private doktor. Dapat inquisitive kayo since health nyo nakasalalay dyan... naging "vigilant" lang po ako, share ko lang po, about this hypertension thing since in our family, we are predispose to health risk to: hypertension, diabetes, and cardio problem. My mom ( rip) died of MI (myocardial infarction), or heart attack. Tigas din po kasi ulo ni mama that time, lagi gusto nya meron karne ulam nya, maski gulay dapat meron karne, naku sarap pa ho naman magluto nuon, lalo naman po yung porkchop yun ang topping sa pinakbet (nagutom na tuloy ako). MInsan, po wag nyo naman paminsan minsan deprive nyo sarili nyo kain ng bawal hehehe, konti lang po, di ba sabi nga po lahat in MODERATION.. Papa Jack, yan share ko lang po, hope meron po kayong napulot pong mabuti sa sinabi ko .Ingat lagi! Quote Link to comment
Papa Jack Posted July 18, 2013 Author Share Posted July 18, 2013 oo nga pala (feeling doktor na ako hehehe). Please make sure all in your household marunong silang kumuha ng bp , mas mainam po yung mercurial or aneriod sphygmomanometer, in my opinion, accurate po yun, just like fusarium_jimini have posted above, yung digital meron din pong error yun..Kaya kayo alam nyo din pano kumuha ng bp nyo hehehe, malay loko lang kayo ng bp result ng nurse nyo hehehe.... JOKE!Learn to know the systolic and diastolic, too..just like my dad, explain ko po sa kanya ganito pagkuha ng bp and yung sa medication nyo po pala, basahin nyo yung literature nya, if ever wala kayong maintindihan na medical term dun, consult mr. Google, or ask your private doktor. Dapat inquisitive kayo since health nyo nakasalalay dyan... naging "vigilant" lang po ako, share ko lang po, about this hypertension thing since in our family, we are predispose to health risk to: hypertension, diabetes, and cardio problem. My mom ( rip) died of MI (myocardial infarction), or heart attack. Tigas din po kasi ulo ni mama that time, lagi gusto nya meron karne ulam nya, maski gulay dapat meron karne, naku sarap pa ho naman magluto nuon, lalo naman po yung porkchop yun ang topping sa pinakbet (nagutom na tuloy ako). MInsan, po wag nyo naman paminsan minsan deprive nyo sarili nyo kain ng bawal hehehe, konti lang po, di ba sabi nga po lahat in MODERATION.. Papa Jack, yan share ko lang po, hope meron po kayong napulot pong mabuti sa sinabi ko .Ingat lagi! Its good that you share. This health concern is for everybody naman. Not just for me. Thanks again Quote Link to comment
floppydrive Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Sana wag mo ikagalit how old are you sir?? And what kind of exercise ginagawa mo. May I knowKindly share it.Mid 40's na po. Takbo po ang exercise na ginagawa ko, 3x a week. Minimum 30 minutes with heart rate >150bpm. Salamat din @powerpuffgirls sa payo! Quote Link to comment
Papa Jack Posted July 18, 2013 Author Share Posted July 18, 2013 Mid 40's na po. Takbo po ang exercise na ginagawa ko, 3x a week. Minimum 30 minutes with heart rate >150bpm. Salamat din @powerpuffgirls sa payo! Im gonna try reversing my situation back to gym. Less weights with more reps And a new lifestyle. Btw im 36 babata pa nating dalawa. Quote Link to comment
Fusarium_jimini Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 (edited) 1374084598[/url]' post='8784646']Add ko lang po after eating , wait for about 15 mins till 30 mins before taking your bp kc if ever tapos kayo kumain at nag pacheck up kayo ng bp, meron tendency na tataas bp , meron pa pong contributing factor pag taas ng bp like drinking coffee, stress, pagod, nerbyos.etc.. Since meron po pala kayo papa jack na nurse, alam na nila yan, napag aralan nila yan and wag po kayo self medicate always consult your doctor if anong gamot ang kapad nyo. and if ever, meron adverse effects sa sa inyo na reseta ng doktor, sabihin nyo agad sa doktor, so he may be able to replace it.. Always remember since iba na din lifestyle natin ngayon, pag hypertensive ka kaakibat na din yung meron diabetes, cardio problem. Magpipinsan na mga sakit, yan na complication ang susunod.. PAPA JACK di ko po sa tinatakot. Hehehe.. kasi ganyan po kasi father ko, ako bale ng monitor sa health nya. Hheee....ingat!Eating physiologically causes an increase in blood pressure; the cardiovacular system is working with the digestive sytem in absorbing the nutrients from digested food and distributing them all-throuout the body. Thats's why its advisable to do your BP monitoring at least 30minutes to about an hour after every last food intake. There is such a thing we call "The Triad of Donahue" principle (hypertension, diabetes, heart disease) that states that if two of the disease entities were present, the patient is highly at risk of developing the 3rd disease entity. 1374104089[/url]' post='8784739']hmmm,. One thing more PAPA JACK wag tigas ulo ha, wag kakain ng salty food kc yung sodium nagpapataas ng bp yan, i saw one of your mtc posts here, WHAT ARE YOU EATING NOW thread, doritos, junk food,high in sodium content po yan. Do not drink alcohol, smoke yan one of the contributing factors to hypertension,too.Try to search via net about DASH ( dietary approach to stop hypertension) . Eto po isa nakita ko.http://www.cumc.colu...ypertension.pdfmaski pa check up kayo ng pa check up at ang tigas ng ulo nyo na hindi sundin ang bilin ng doktor wala din saysay po ang consultation and medication nyo.if ever po meron ulam na baboy, pakitanggal po yung taba or for example beef sinigang alam po natin na meron pong sebo yun, so what i do para di naman po ma deprive, just like my dad, ng karne sa pagkain nya, hiwalay ko po sya at palamigin and after a while meron po lulutang sa taas ng beef sinigang yung sebo nya, scrape ko po yun at itapon, imagine pag yun po nakarating sa arteries natin. Also, banana nga po pala wag alisin sa diet nyo since rich in potassium po yan... Ingat lagi, lagi nyo pong tatandaan kung ano po idineposit / invest nyo sa katawan nyo, pagtanda po natin yun po ang matatanggap natin.. Kaya ingatan nyo lagi health nyo PAPA JACKAgree. Salt or Sodium Chloride inbibes fluids like water, thereby increasing intravascular pressure and, ergo, blood pressure..it can also cause cardiac arrhythmias (same thing can happen with abnormal potassium levels).. That's why its important that blood chem tests (serum sodium, potassium, ionized calcium, etc.) be taken as part of one's regular check-up. Cut down or eliminately completely your red meat consumption (beef and pork).. Source your proteins from white meat (chicken [skin removed] and fish)..if you love eggs, hard-boil them so as to separate effectively the egg white (protein & good cholesterol) from the yolk (bad cholesterol). 1374106648[/url]' post='8784749']oo nga pala (feeling doktor na ako hehehe). Please make sure all in your household marunong silang kumuha ng bp , mas mainam po yung mercurial or aneriod sphygmomanometer, in my opinion, accurate po yun, just like fusarium_jimini have posted above, yung digital meron din pong error yun..Kaya kayo alam nyo din pano kumuha ng bp nyo hehehe, malay loko lang kayo ng bp result ng nurse nyo hehehe.... JOKE!Learn to know the systolic and diastolic, too..just like my dad, explain ko po sa kanya ganito pagkuha ng bp and yung sa medication nyo po pala, basahin nyo yung literature nya, if ever wala kayong maintindihan na medical term dun, consult mr. Google, or ask your private doktor. Dapat inquisitive kayo since health nyo nakasalalay dyan... naging "vigilant" lang po ako, share ko lang po, about this hypertension thing since in our family, we are predispose to health risk to: hypertension, diabetes, and cardio problem. My mom ( rip) died of MI (myocardial infarction), or heart attack. Tigas din po kasi ulo ni mama that time, lagi gusto nya meron karne ulam nya, maski gulay dapat meron karne, naku sarap pa ho naman magluto nuon, lalo naman po yung porkchop yun ang topping sa pinakbet (nagutom na tuloy ako). MInsan, po wag nyo naman paminsan minsan deprive nyo sarili nyo kain ng bawal hehehe, konti lang po, di ba sabi nga po lahat in MODERATION.. Papa Jack, yan share ko lang po, hope meron po kayong napulot pong mabuti sa sinabi ko .Ingat lagi! due to risks of mercury poisoning, the use of mercurial bp app (as well as glass thermometer) are now prohibited and discouraged. Use of aneroid sphygmomanometer entails calibration of the bp app at any hospitals cardio department (every 3-6 months). Edited July 18, 2013 by Fusarium_jimini Quote Link to comment
Fusarium_jimini Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 1374133735[/url]' post='8785328']Mid 40's na po. Takbo po ang exercise na ginagawa ko, 3x a week. Minimum 30 minutes with heart rate >150bpm. Salamat din @powerpuffgirls sa payo! 1374134354[/url]' post='8785340']Im gonna try reversing my situation back to gym. Less weights with more reps And a new lifestyle. Btw im 36 babata pa nating dalawa. Aside from weight-reduction, your goal should be that of being cardiovascularly-fit as well. Burn those calories on the stationary bike (much better if its an elliptical trainer), aerobic exercises, etc. Quote Link to comment
ppdd Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 (edited) Mid 40's na po. Takbo po ang exercise na ginagawa ko, 3x a week. Minimum 30 minutes with heart rate >150bpm. Salamat din @powerpuffgirls sa payo!WTF?!?! mid-40s ka na pala papi? nde halata ah.. you look younger.. mas mabilis ka pa nga tumakbo sakin ehyung spa exercise kasama ba sa running regimen mo? back to topic: ang prob ko sa blood pressure.. masyado naman mababa ang BP kokaya kahit puyat at graveyard shift, sakto lang kasi nagno-normal BP koany bad effects of having low BP? aside from mas prone kami na mahilo/mag-collapse during blood donation or blood loss (although i still donate blood every now and then) Edited July 18, 2013 by ppdd Quote Link to comment
Fusarium_jimini Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 1374166897[/url]' post='8785885'] back to topic: ang prob ko sa blood pressure.. masyado naman mababa ang BP kokaya kahit puyat at graveyard shift, sakto lang kasi nagno-normal BP koany bad effects of having low BP? aside from mas prone kami na mahilo/mag-collapse during blood donation or blood loss (although i still donate blood every now and then) walang problem if you have low BP pre, not unless you're a trauma patient ('knock on wood').. Also, if the low BP is acompanied by resting tachycardia (usually 130bpm or more)..these are ominous signs of impending heart failure. Buti pre, kahit hypotensive ka piapayagan ka pa rin mag-donate? Don't worry, tataas at tataas BP mo habang tumatanda ka. Quote Link to comment
ppdd Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 walang problem if you have low BP pre, not unless you're a trauma patient ('knock on wood').. Also, if the low BP is acompanied by resting tachycardia (usually 130bpm or more)..these are ominous signs of impending heart failure. Buti pre, kahit hypotensive ka piapayagan ka pa rin mag-donate? Don't worry, tataas at tataas BP mo habang tumatanda ka.yeah pinayagan naman ako magdonate since nakapagdonate na ako previously as long daw na nde ako magda-drive after and kain daw ako agad after donating Quote Link to comment
Papa Jack Posted July 18, 2013 Author Share Posted July 18, 2013 Doc good morning. How come bp ko starts to spike up ng 3pm to 7pm then. Bumababa Pag ganitong oras parang nalulunod ako. Nawawalan ng hininga. Lumulunok ng saliva as if kulang breath mo. Sabi ng mga doctors ko nerbiyos lang daw yun. Na naglalaro sa utak ko. Twice kuna sinabi ito Sa kanila. Care to share doc. 1 Quote Link to comment
Fusarium_jimini Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 1374186327[/url]' post='8785959']yeah pinayagan naman ako magdonate since nakapagdonate na ako previously as long daw na nde ako magda-drive after and kain daw ako agad after donatingOk pre..pero yung pagkain after blood letting, its a temporizing measure at best, just to keep your BP up (since bababa na ito), at least until you get home and rest..eh lalo ka nang marathon runner ka, hidi ganun tataas yung BP po.. Pag nagpa-CBC ka ba, do you notice if normal or high-normal yung hemoglobin and/or hematocrit mo, pre? 1374187732[/url]' post='8785964']Doc good morning. How come bp ko starts to spike up ng 3pm to 7pm then. Bumababa Pag ganitong oras parang nalulunod ako. Nawawalan ng hininga. Lumulunok ng saliva as if kulang breath mo. Sabi ng mga doctors ko nerbiyos lang daw yun. Na naglalaro sa utak ko. Twice kuna sinabi ito Sa kanila. Care to share doc.Pwede because of diurnal pattern? Some autonomics in our body follows a pattern, depending on the time of day. When we are most relaxed (upon waking-up in the morning), we can expect that our BP and heart rate are at their lowest ebb..then as the day goes by (stress sa family, work, and sometimes even during supposedly-relaxing activities..like papa-spa for example hehe); the stress will cause an expected increase in our BP.. Kaya lang, pre, in your case, where serious co-morbidities exist, mahirap mag-postulate. A high BP reading and shortness-of-breath at the same time may be cardiac in origin..or maybe due to your other underlying illness. At this point, if I were you, I'd take confidence in what my MD's have told me; sila kasi may grasp sa history/P.E. and labs/ancillaries mo. Ako, puro in theory lang ma-ooffer ko, with the assumption that the labs I might have ordered (if I were the physician) yielded abnormal results. Good morning peeps. Start your day right and end your day content. 'off to the O.R. for me..'nuff said for now. Quote Link to comment
Papa Jack Posted July 18, 2013 Author Share Posted July 18, 2013 Yun nga di nila ma determined ok naman lahat ng.lab ko pagdating sa heart. Cardiologist Nga nagsabi nerbiyoso daw ako..paano mangyayari yun ok. Finances ko. Ok naman security ko. Literally Ok naman businesses. Ok naman family. Barkada at connections. Literally rest mode ako. At mtc. Eto pinagtataka ko. Why ganito. Thanks doc sa first advice. Hopefully magbigay ka ng comment sa second. 1 Quote Link to comment
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