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#21 skipper6983

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Posted 18 January 2006 - 05:21 PM

big question is, even some people with parents who have own business still go for the employee path.. why?  they are after the fun of meeting new friends, gimiks, challenging job, creative jobs.. etc.. 

you see.. not everything in this world revolves around money and sitting on a couch.. money does not make one happy but its above love for what you're doing..its about the passion..

try to visualize yourself having all the money in the world, so you don't have to work, socialize etc. all you need to do is stay at home while the rest of your friends are in the office, mingling. ... now what?? hahaha.. easier said than done..

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i beg to disagree. if you have the finances without any worry, why would you just sit at home? y dont you reach out and socialize, feed the world, establish a foundation, run for president even. yes its true that life doesn't have to revolve around money. but if you do have the resources, think of the tremendous contributions you can give to society. there is nothing wrong about money. the excessive love for it, IS.

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Posted 18 January 2006 - 06:17 PM

As far as Im concerned mas madami ang friends sa business,yun nga yung prerequisite para lumago ang business madami contacts. New people to meet everyday. San nyo nakuha yung concept na pag madami ka pera dahil sa business sa bahay ka lang? And always on the go ka pag wala kang ginagawa parang pakiramdam mo wala kang silbi...para kang hindi productive.

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Posted 19 January 2006 - 01:49 PM

As far as Im concerned mas madami ang  friends sa business,yun nga yung prerequisite para lumago ang business madami contacts. New people to meet everyday. San nyo nakuha yung concept na pag madami ka pera dahil sa business sa bahay ka lang?  And always on the go ka pag wala kang ginagawa parang pakiramdam mo wala kang silbi...para kang hindi productive.

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if you still spend time on your business you are not considered business owner.. you are an 'EMPLOYEE" of your business.. or in other terms self-employed.. being self-employed is no different from being an employee.. the difference is that you have to start from scratch what has been proven and started before if you go the employee path..

even contractors or contractual employees are categorized as self-employed..

so what do you actually want to do? become self-employed or business owner? and what do you like to do..? can you actually do all the work of marketing, accounting, production, management? being a self employed is easier said than done.. no man is an island..

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Posted 19 January 2006 - 06:39 PM

Dude kahit sinong negosyante kahit yung mga bigtime pumupunta parin yan sa mga negosyo nila.Pero hindi ibig sabihin na pumunta ka sa business mo ikaw lahat gumagawa

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Posted 19 January 2006 - 07:02 PM

i beg to disagree. if you have the finances without any worry, why would you just sit at home? y dont you reach out and socialize, feed the world, establish a foundation, run for president even. yes its true that life doesn't have to revolve around money. but if you do have the resources, think of the tremendous contributions you can give to society. there is nothing wrong about money. the excessive love for it, IS.

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Absolutely!

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Posted 20 January 2006 - 11:45 AM

Dude kahit sinong negosyante kahit yung mga bigtime pumupunta parin yan sa mga negosyo nila.Pero hindi ibig sabihin na pumunta ka sa business mo ikaw lahat gumagawa

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thats my point.. whats the difference between a chairman of a company which was voted by the board of directors and an employee? still if you are senior manager of the company.. you have the responsibility of making sure that your decisions are for the benefit of the stockholders..


so what do you mean by negosyante? business owner or self-employed? perhaps some of you see having a business is just bumming around and waiting for money to fall from the trees.. its not.. you still have to spend time.. if you are negosyante? do you just expect to bum around and wait for money? so if you spend time on your business, does that make any difference from just being an employee?

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Posted 20 January 2006 - 12:24 PM

big question is, even some people with parents who have own business still go for the employee path.. why?  they are after the fun of meeting new friends, gimiks, challenging job, creative jobs.. etc.. 

you see.. not everything in this world revolves around money and sitting on a couch.. money does not make one happy but its above love for what you're doing..its about the passion..

try to visualize yourself having all the money in the world, so you don't have to work, socialize etc. all you need to do is stay at home while the rest of your friends are in the office, mingling. ... now what?? hahaha.. easier said than done..

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i beg to differ...the reason why most people work, go into business and earn the big bucks is so they have more time for the hman aspect in life. you know, spend more time with your family, mingle with your friends, go places and meet new people.

parents with a business tell their kids to work for someone first so they learn the value of their own money, so that when they do take over the business or start their own, they will know exactly what they are doing.

point in case: chinese families train their children that way.

but if you cant see the beauty and the intricacy of that situation, then you arent built for life outside of being an employee.

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Posted 20 January 2006 - 01:13 PM

i beg to differ...the reason why most people work, go into business and earn the big bucks is so they have more time for the hman aspect in life. you know, spend more time with your family, mingle with your friends,  go places and meet new people.

parents with a business tell their kids to work for someone first so they learn the value of their own money, so that when they do take over the business or start their own, they will know exactly what they are doing.

point in case: chinese families train their children that way.

but if you cant see the beauty and the intricacy of that situation, then you arent built for life outside of being an employee.

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i beg to differ.. spend more time with your family when you have business? what do you think about having a business? just bumming around? for your information having a business means working double time.. its easier said than done.. if you understand what i mean.. its not just plunking your money and waiting for it to grow..

what do you understand about having a business? being self employed, being an investor, or owning a business? these 3 are very much different..

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Posted 20 January 2006 - 01:44 PM

i beg to differ.. spend more time with your family when you have business? what do you think about having a business? just bumming around? for your information having a business means working double time.. its easier said than done.. if you understand what i mean..  its not just plunking your money and waiting for it to grow..

what do you understand about having a business? being self employed, being an investor, or owning a business? these 3 are very much different..

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You probably are not a real business person with the way you think and even the way you present your point of view.

Being in business increases your risks as opposed to just having a regular job. But on the other hand, your rewards are far greater than any job can offer in terms of finances and personal satisfaction.

When you're in business, that means you own your time which ultimately boils down to your being able to spend time with anything you want like your family,a hobby or even charity. That of course presupposes that you are earning enough from whatever business you are in (bec pursuing a hobby or doing charity work requires some money).

I disagree with your statement of working double time which means working very hard. I think you should work smartly rather doing things the hard way.

What kind of business are you in by the way? You mean you dont have time for anything else but your business? You're probably running a sari-sari store or a karinderya that's why you're not enjoying yourself. How come you have time to post here?

I saw you in another thread saying that you earn a lot from your salary. Does it mean that you're really a slave more than a businessman?

To the thread owner and others who reads through this thread. I'd like to encourage you to go into business anytime you feel you're ready financially and psychologically. There's no other way to be financially free but going into business. Of course you should choose a business that's close to your heart. That way, you wont need to enslave yourself to your business like the way the above poster have pictured it to be.

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Posted 20 January 2006 - 01:50 PM

You probably are not a real business person with the way you think and even the way you present your point of view.

Being in business increases your risks as opposed to just having a regular job. But on the other hand, your rewards are far greater than any job can offer in terms of finances and personal satisfaction.

When you're in business, that means you own your time which ultimately boils down to your being able to spend time with anything you want like your family,a hobby or even charity. That of course presupposes that you are earning enough from whatever business you are in (bec pursuing a hobby or doing charity work requires some money).

I disagree with your statement of working double time which means working very hard. I think you should work smartly rather doing things the hard way.

What kind of business are you in by the way? You mean you dont have time for anything else but your business? You're probably running a sari-sari store or a karinderya that's why you're not enjoying yourself. How come you have time to post here?

I saw you in another thread saying that you earn a lot from your salary. Does it mean that you're really a slave more than a businessman?

To the thread owner and others who reads through this thread. I'd like to encourage you to go into business anytime you feel you're ready financially and psychologically. There's no other way to be financially free but going into business. Of course you should choose a business that's close to your heart. That way, you wont need to enslave yourself to your business like the way the above poster have pictured it to be.

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why is that because you are offering your pyramiding scam? don't you know that that is illegal? what business are you referring to?

for your information, i earned my present net worth of 2.5 million from not moving a finger.. but not like you who earns your business from swindling others.. that is entirely different..

being a swindler is different from being an investor in my opinion..

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Posted 20 January 2006 - 02:14 PM

why is that because you are offering your pyramiding scam? don't you know that that is illegal?  what business are you referring to?

for your information, i earned my present net worth of 2.5 million from not moving a finger.. but not like you who earns your business from swindling others.. that is entirely different..

being a swindler is different from being an investor in my opinion..

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Ha ha. See how this intellectually challenged kid structures his thoughts? Hey little boy, i think you should stick with your sari-sari store. That way you'll have more time sulking and blaming yourself why you cant enjoy your life like the others..

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Posted 20 January 2006 - 02:19 PM

why is that because you are offering your pyramiding scam? don't you know that that is illegal?  what business are you referring to?

for your information, i earned my present net worth of 2.5 million from not moving a finger.. but not like you who earns your business from swindling others.. that is entirely different..

being a swindler is different from being an investor in my opinion..

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OOOOHHHH 2.5m without lifting a finger nanalo ka siguro sa lotto

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Posted 20 January 2006 - 02:29 PM

OOOOHHHH 2.5m without lifting a finger nanalo ka siguro sa lotto

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not really.. just made it big as an investor.. i just work as an employee because i don't like to be a bum.. its my passion..

#34 xhalaguena

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Posted 23 January 2006 - 08:32 PM

not really.. just made it big as an investor.. i just work as an employee because i don't like to be a bum.. its my passion..

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....so some dude told you to invest in cetain thing so you make money?

you earned 2.5 mil for that, just 2.5, the guys i know who play with stocks eat your 2.5 for breakfast.

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Posted 24 January 2006 - 12:37 AM

im an interior designer graduating this march.. we have a family biz but i dont want to work there. i want to be a freelance designer or push my tiangge biz.. what do u guys suggest?

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Posted 24 January 2006 - 12:43 AM

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Posted 24 January 2006 - 08:40 AM

im an interior designer graduating this march.. we have a family biz but i dont want to work there. i want to be a freelance designer or push my tiangge biz.. what do u guys suggest?

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Then go for it!!! Whatever endeavor you go into give it your best shot!! Learn from it!!

#38 xhalaguena

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Posted 24 January 2006 - 09:29 AM

im an interior designer graduating this march.. we have a family biz but i dont want to work there. i want to be a freelance designer or push my tiangge biz.. what do u guys suggest?

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go for it. if you want to be a freelancer, then go for it.

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Posted 24 January 2006 - 09:48 AM

im an interior designer graduating this march.. we have a family biz but i dont want to work there. i want to be a freelance designer or push my tiangge biz.. what do u guys suggest?

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Follow your heart! give it everything you've got and never quit. Just remember not to take your advice from a gay er guy named thug .. He he (kidding).. seriously, dont lose sight of your dream and you'll soon taste the glory of success..

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Posted 25 January 2006 - 06:56 PM

for new graduates, i think its better to be employed muna. learn the ropes, then when you feel that the time is right, go for it and open your own business.




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