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On 2/11/2022 at 1:02 PM, Batang hampas lupa said:

Any bad news!!!!

why PSE is down today?

- There is two notable reason for me:

US inflation report and leaders correcting (example is $EMP, wasak na ngaun yan). Ofcourse, much more weaker individual names will be affected. malamang mas wasak yun. Whatever the reason is, the most important feedback that one should look is his/her port. "is your your current position up/down?, does it break your cut point?" To me, that really is the more important thing, than finding out what maybe the reason is.

For $MONDE, $MREIT and $WLCON. The price action is called "moc close". Eto ung mga binira nung mga on closing. Might/may not be a true bullish move. Important to see is the next days action if this can hold or not. Just research about it.

With the leaders correcting; one thing is for sure. It would take time to fix that mess. It would be a good time to look where the "flows" is and what individual names is strong(just limited so far). If you can't determine those factors, for sure you will have a tough time dealing with the market.

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On 2/12/2022 at 8:36 AM, rodpau said:

Sana uptrend na. Pasok na Monde sa index sa feb 14.

kawawa na trap ni monde last friday. pinataas ng husto. then upon listing as index stock, binuhusan kaya bumaba.  kaya mahirap basta sumunod. mahirap kumita ngayo kasi very short ang rally at pababa ang PSE . very selective stocks lang siguro kung sakali.

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19 hours ago, Harding said:

kawawa na trap ni monde last friday. pinataas ng husto. then upon listing as index stock, binuhusan kaya bumaba.  kaya mahirap basta sumunod. mahirap kumita ngayo kasi very short ang rally at pababa ang PSE . very selective stocks lang siguro kung sakali.

Ok lang yan, brod. Tataas din yan. I assume full-blooded (day)trader ka ano. Ako kasi mga 90% invest / 10% trade kaya yung port ko 90% mga dividend/growth stocks at mga REITs.

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21 hours ago, Harding said:

kawawa na trap ni monde last friday. pinataas ng husto. then upon listing as index stock, binuhusan kaya bumaba.  kaya mahirap basta sumunod. mahirap kumita ngayo kasi very short ang rally at pababa ang PSE . very selective stocks lang siguro kung sakali.

Ganyan talaga ang madalas nangyayari sir....

kapag ang isang stock pumapasok sa index... pinatatas ng mga inst. Pagkatapos sila rin ang nagbubuhos...

Like acen and cnvg...

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7 hours ago, rodpau said:

Ok lang yan, brod. Tataas din yan. I assume full-blooded (day)trader ka ano. Ako kasi mga 90% invest / 10% trade kaya yung port ko 90% mga dividend/growth stocks at mga REITs.

tnx for the kind words. sumubok lang ako mag swing trader lately. dati madali ang kita. but since down ang market nag iba ang tugtog. actually may mga long investments din ako like jfc, ali , smc and aboitiz. exciting kasi volatile stocks kaya sinubukan ko. Mas malaki ang pang trade ko kaysa investments stocks.

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5 hours ago, Batang hampas lupa said:

Ganyan talaga ang madalas nangyayari sir....

kapag ang isang stock pumapasok sa index... pinatatas ng mga inst. Pagkatapos sila rin ang nagbubuhos...

Like acen and cnvg...

nahalata tuloy bago lang ako sa trading. di ko kasi dati pinapansin yan price swings. dati bibili ako ng stocks bahala na sya sa sarili nya. masarap bilhin stock for trading. palagay ko di ako malulugi as long as bullish ang market. 

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I'm interested to see, what will happen with Energy names, if 1.97 breaks for $SPNEC. 

- It will be a good identifier if other names in the group will crash as well, hold or keep on moving upward.

- It will be faster to know, if insti would support it or olats na. 

My idea is, ok kung susundutin nila, below 1.97. If ako kasi insti, ganun gagawen ko. Plus, the move will be faster either up or down. But I'm no better than the market. Just following what price says. No issues for me if I buy a high price, as long as risk/reward is good and there is a via setup.

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There is an online trading event this saturday. Magdedefense yung top 10 winners ng trading cup. Bali ung naging duration nun is 3 months. Tas ung #1 trader's result is 120% returns this cup. 

If you want to learn, and get their strategy. You could register at investagrams. It's a paid event btw, normally cost about 1.5k-2K php. 

This only for people who wanted to learn, elevate their trading/investing, and perhaps to those individuals who wanted to have a better understanding on how the market works. Ididiscuss nila yun dun.

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that is the beauty of the stock market. different fund manager have their own strategies. maybe they have planned so well that may or may not win at all. that is the reason that not all fund managers are making money and many lost money too. i will prefer to be on the safe side and not too adventorous. 

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1 hour ago, Harding said:

that is the beauty of the stock market. different fund manager have their own strategies. maybe they have planned so well that may or may not win at all. that is the reason that not all fund managers are making money and many lost money too. i will prefer to be on the safe side and not too adventorous. 

All I can say is, people get what they want in the market. The one I mentioned by the way, is a scooping technique. This will only holds true, when the price rises after. If binuhusan, edi distribution/profit taking yun, or maybe end of the move? ganun lang kasimple for me. I don't know if someone has already watched a market maker being interviewed (financial institution fund manager). dun ko narinig yun, plus research and experience overtime.

Regarding the "safe side" in the markets. It doesnt exist. Because as long as one individual is invested (have a stock position), your money is always at risk. Anyone could verify this.

The only safe side in the markets is by being in cash "no stock position". You dont win some/ you dont loose some. :)

 

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A trader hat vs investor hat:

Normally, what people do is trader pag tama at in profit. Pero pag mali, down at ipit, yun investor na sila.

One big issue with using this kind of strategy. Is one individual will only cloud his judgement. Should i hold? should I sell? should i buy? should i buy more?

Common na yang down sa isang stock, tas ang gagawen. close port, then aasa na aangat din yan in time. Sometimes, tama ito. Papano kung hindi? Pano kung mas bumaba pa sa dati? -(Just want to clarify, I am just laying information in here, since this normally happens, most especially on highly speculative stocks).

A big loss, always start small. Lumalaki kasi pinabayaan at hinayaan.

Common scenario, open port down 5-6%, after a while down 10, 20% na, down 30 and down 50. 

So syempre, may bagong rason na naman. Sobrang laki na ng talo. Ang bigat na sa loob makita na wala ng value, ung previous purchase. Ang lalabas na sa bibig, ang hirap na i-cut! laki na ng talo ko e. 

If you have time, research AR,CAL, PHA, and other names na may naipit. For sure, makikita nyo yung binanggit kong same thought process nila. Huling balita ko, idedelist na yata ung AR. Yung Cal, ilang taon na, ala pren development sa mga ipit dun.

isipin mo, pano kung ikaw yung isa sa may hawak nun? edi iyak nalang? :D

My message: It is true, that everyone has an opportunity to make some money on a speculative name. Just know when the music, stop. As always managed your risk.

-Remember, hope is not a strategy. Its a cigarette. -

 

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On 2/17/2022 at 11:21 AM, ichiromiyata98 said:

I'm interested to see, what will happen with Energy names, if 1.97 breaks for $SPNEC. 

- It will be a good identifier if other names in the group will crash as well, hold or keep on moving upward.

- It will be faster to know, if insti would support it or olats na. 

My idea is, ok kung susundutin nila, below 1.97. If ako kasi insti, ganun gagawen ko. Plus, the move will be faster either up or down. But I'm no better than the market. Just following what price says. No issues for me if I buy a high price, as long as risk/reward is good and there is a via setup.

So this already happened today. $SPNEC crashed on volume.

Feedback: Other names on the group did hold.

Now for $SPNEC, Either of the 3 will happen next. 

1. Continuous move on the downside. Possibly, regained 20MA, then plummets fast down, or at the open tom crash slowly until sellers were done to sell what they have.

2. Regain the 20MA, then holds, setup. Then rally to upside (then sell off once again).

3. Regain 20MA, then holds, setup, then rally to the upside and break the ATH level (will take some time, lowest probability for now).

One thing is for sure. There are a lot of traders wanna be who bought few weeks ago (humabol), who didnt cut their losses. Who are now promoted to being an investor. Guess what, they are now holding a huge loss.

The one still in profit is the buyers who bought at IPO day, and some that have a lower average.

-Lesson: It is okay to bet, and risk small. This was a probability game after all. But know when you are wrong and you should accept(selling at a loss, the 1st loss is always good than the next).

 

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If someone will check or did follow the names dropped on this thread and bought it blindly with the same timing, or maybe bought the following day.

Surely, your port is underwater. Meaning, pulahan. Because those names, were trash. It only shows, that the individual doesnt know how to time the market, criteria is poor on choosing a name, has a poor risk management, has not developed emotional control and etc.

Beware of the gurus, who knew nothing. But talked to much. Good day!

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