sweeteenia

forget about statistics... what's your take on this?

do you really believe these women are lesser than you? how so?

i didn't say that i am better than anyone here.. i'm just basing on facts.. statistics..science..this is the truth c'mmon..

As i've posted previously that the one who's got more and better cards..still holds the crown.. this is true.. the more you can offer in the table the more lovable you are.. Yes, you are beautiful ..but there are more beautiful girls out there who can offer more.. like, being clean and decent.. Pinoy -one way -traffic men do prefer the latter who offered more cards on the table.. it's logical.. men are logical.. it's an ego boost to have a wife like that..The secrets is that men..don't want or is so scared to be mistaken as the father of a child that's not his, he's the breadwinner....So he prefer a clean woman that can be trusted when he's not around..So that he won't be raising a child who's not his..(that's the secret in their minds).

Actually, if you meet these girls outside of their work, then you wouldn't know the difference. They are normal girls just like any other decent girls you find. And there is no reason why anyone would not fall in love with them. Staying in love, once you know the whole picture is a different thing. It would take lots of work on both ends but if both are willing it can still work out.

I'm sorry if I'm too straightforward.. I'm not judging anyone..I'm just being realistic and I'm basing on research and statistics.and even experience myself...yes. for pinoys..mostly they prefer the decent one are the MORE..the other are the less..It hurts.. but statistics have proved it..

Oneway traffic kasi ang pinoy.. double standard.. even millionaires prefer marrying a virgin or virginal women or women from good families.. and end up the lesser women as their mistress.. It's a statistics.. i was a virgin when my husband married me..he said whe won't ver get serious or be in love who isn't a virgin// for pinoy ..it is a secret..

I've read books.. and research and pondered to statistics ..

i guess the movie 'pretty woman' is an exaggeration of what is really going on, but there is some truth to it....

 

in the movie, the lead actor was having a hard time convincing his gf to go out with him.. so he got dragged to a 'professional'

 

i just always got dragged into this situation because the decent, good catch girls are giving me a hard time, they just don't have the time for me.. and its the same with other guys out there..

 

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but its true, guys want a woman that would make a good partner, somebody which could help them get through life, somebody who will lift them up.. .. not somebody whom they will carry over their shoulders, and carry all those nonsense financial and psychological problems that these women have.. we are single guys, not orphanage, not psychiatrists..

 

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Maybe you're not a good catch coz you sounds to seltle for the lesser one..

let's be realistic here.. girls like that mostly (in statistics) are just temporary.. a past time..For permanent relationships? mostly pinoy? Pinioy men are maarte talaga.. they choose the best catch they can have..and most likely are good decent girls.. c'mmon i'm basing on statistics not from the pocketbooks and movies like pretty woman..Let's get real.

not so.... nagiging mas mapili lang sila/ or talagang umiiwas din sa seryosohan kase nakita na nila iba-ibang klase ng lalaki...and bistadong bistado na nila ang "truth" about men.

let's be realistic here.. girls like that mostly (in statistics) are just temporary.. a past time..For permanent relationships? mostly pinoy? Pinioy men are maarte talaga.. they choose the best catch they can have..and most likely are good decent girls.. c'mmon i'm basing on statistics not from the pocketbooks and movies like pretty woman..Let's get real.

Someone who can fill my emotional needs and faithful..

I am just pertaining on that instance that the suicidal is saying the line "if you'll leave, i'll commit suicide."

assume that she will.. but don't make it obvious for her..coz she''l gonna use it as her way to manipulate..

If they are really decided to commit suicide they will just do it. They don't need someone to watch them take their own life (exceptions are bonnie and clyde like, they decided to do it together), unless they really want the other party to suffer thinking, "you are the one who forced me to do it (watch me do it. then suddenly crosses the street while a bus is coming)." (Which they don't know if taken effect because they're already dead)

 

If they talked about it, they want someone to stay with them, talk with them, boost that self steem and that will to live. Okay change the word "just threatening". Maybe we can replace it with delaying, warning, wants help, needs help (what else?).

In research's statistics.. most suicidals do have indirect cry for help thing.. they will most likely let anyone know that they're going to commit suicide.. it's their subconcious's "will to live" that lead them to give hints and clues..Take note.. it could be worst if he/she had let someone knew that she's suicidal but the other person have coldly ignored the clues or her ..It could lower down more the suicidal's self-esteem to rock bottom... coz for her that means she deserves to die coz nobody ever cares for her anymore..She'd better off dead than being not special to anyone.

even if i'm perfectly imperfect?

Wildflower

Words & Music by D. Edwards & D. Richardson

Recorded by Skylark, 1972

Em Em7 C#m7-5 CM7

She's faced the hardest times you could imagine,

Am7 D7 GM7 G6

And many times, her eyes fought back the tears;

Em Em7 C#m7-5 CM7

And when her youthful world was about to fall in,

Am7 D7 Am7 D7

Each time her slender shoulders drew the weight of all her fears,

Am7 D7

And a sorrow no one hears

CM7 Bm7 Am7 F7 E

Still rings in midnight silence in her ears.

Refrain:

CM7 Am7 GM7 G6

Let her cry for she's a lady,

C B7 Em B+

Let her dream for she's a child;

C Bm7 Am7 D9

Let the rain fall down upon her --

Am7 D7 GM7

She's a free and gentle flower, growing wild.

Em Em7 C#m7-5 CM7

Be careful how you touch her, for she'll awaken,

Am7 D7 GM7 G6

And sleep's the only freedom that she knows;

Em Em7 C#m7-5 CM7

And when you look into her eyes, you won't believe

Am7 D7 Am7 D7

The way she's always paying for a debt she never owed,

Am7 D7

And a silent wind still blows

CM7 Bm7 Am7 F7 E

That only she can hear, and so she goes.

Repeat Refrain:

Bridge:

CM7 GM7

And if by chance I should hold her,

CM7 GM7

Let me hold her for a time;

CM7 GM7

But if allowed just one possession,

Am Am7 GM7 B7

I would pick her from the garden to be mine.

Repeat Refrain:

ang gulo mo naman, diba ikaw nagsabi nyan? na ang totoong magpapakamatay sila yung magpapakamatay na lang ng walang sabi sabi.

 

eto stand mo o:

 

For those who is not saying they will do it, yun yung mga suiciders.

 

Most of suiciders, they don't tell they gonna do it, they will just leave a suicide note and definitely dead right now.

So those who says he/she will commit suicide is just threatening for you to stay

i'm just trying to show you that you're wrong...cus there are actually obvious signs, and suicidals do talk about it,

---threatening though...just to make a partner stay

is a little questionable..unless it's not all talk.

I aggree with walkalone.. magaling ka! :cool: yes.. don't ignore the suicidal..it's an indirect cry for help.. Infact ,inside the suicidal mind is a skeptical and ambivalent thought..it's "the will to live and the "will to die" that's battling in the subconcious.. All you gotta do is ..to reinforce the "will to live" of that person.. How? by being with her, even just by sitting beside her..coz these make her special..thus increasing the self -esteem.. You must boost the self-e steem, give your support for that 'Will to live". :cool:

why would i give malice kung alam ko na friendly lang siya? of course hindi ako gagawa ng move na alam kong ikapapahiya ko rin. kaya ko nga nai-post itong topic na ito kasi hindi ko alam eh...

i guess mahilig lang talaga yung ibang girls na mang-B@*lsh&T...

 

I tell you everything was so weird and confusing, even her close friends told me "what the heck was that?"

the words are different from the gestures.. I tell you... it's really different and weird. kaya B@*lsh&T na lang sa mga taong katulad nya. Someday I'll be able to understand what's the reason behind that but for now.. i don't have the slightest idea why she has done those things and B@*lsh&T na lang din. :evil:

Baka she's waiting for your move.. baka torpe ka.. and di mo sya pinansin talaga..dapat ligawan mo na.. you move.. baka sya lang ang nag move.. you know women use that as a strategy..she'll let you know that she likes you by giving hints and clues..then then expects that it would be your turn to do the next...which is the wooing or courtship...Don't be torpe..go on..move..get her..

I am yours, yours alone and yours to keep

 

will you still Love me even if ..... the world may just be against us? :cool:

i do.. :cool:

yes i am im too possesive to the one i love

yes.. I am reasonably jealous.. I've learned that women are wired that way.

so it will still be your heart controlled by your brain that made the choice.

No coz kahit heart transplant pa .still the decision of loving someone is a decision from our subconcious.. it's in the brain why you love that someone.. the emotions is in the brain amygdala.

My suspicion ... tine-telepathy/ginayuma ako. By choice, I really don't like thinking about a person 24/7. Feels like I'll be missing out so much out of life.

aRE you sure.. the telepathy thing

so you would choose a partner on the basis of practicality, reason and common sense?

No.. I choose because he's making me feel it.. it's love .. and that emotion is because is in the brain map..of how you perceive that person as lovable..

the heart is even though an involuntary muscle (we can't control physically like making it stop beating)... everything we feel like palpitation of the heart is brought by the brain.

 

i guess the question in this forum is about choosing a partner or a relationship...

 

do we use our emotion or do we use our intellect?

both are still in the brain in choosing partners.. it's all in the brain..it's adecision ..okey :cool:

correct... based on neuroanatomy the amygdala in the hypothalamus has been traditionally been the "controller" of some emotions... especially the endorphin high from love etc... though the frontal lobes are also associated with behavior and temperament....

 

so for me... the old-fashioned answere --- still the Heart

If it's in the heart then ..why some heart transplants patients ..still love the same person they love..really scientificaly it's in the brain.and science is facts.. so i'm basing on facts not on the creative writers imaginations or hunches.

Richard Sanderson - She's A Lady

Somedays she's an eagle flying high

Reaching for heights unforeseen

Trying to cope with the body

Of a woman and the mind of a child

She'd left behind

The child she'd always been

She's a lady lady lady lady lady

She'll always be in my heart

Even in the end as the start

She's a lady lady lady lady lady

We'll never be far apart

Even in the end when tear drops start

Sometimes she will hide a broken wing

Ashamed to let you see

Some foolish thing that's so small

It doesn't matter, but to her

It's a thing she cannot share

She cannot make a scene

Seasons will take her by surprise

Changing her life and her dreams

Sometimes she thinks

That she isn't gonna make it

So you're there

To catch her in the air

Before she's fallen free

correct me if i'm wrong here but i believe its the pituitary gland and not the hyphothalamus.

 

enough geekiness.

 

total package pa din!

Amygdala ..i think is in the hypothalamus..It's a pea size thing there..where emotions are regulated ..

I'm not a Tagalog speaker but from what I can make out you seem to be against divorce if the couple has kids. If so, I would suggest you contemplate the situation those kids would live in where mom and dad are at war. A very unloving environment with things like nightly, or at least frequent, screaming matches, dinner tables where mom and dad exchange not one word, and mom and dad fuming at each other in the car. That sort of situation generates and enormous amount of constant tension for everyone involved and the kids really suffer.

 

I'm all for every kid in the world living in a healthy loving home ... show me how and I will actively participate any activity with a reasonable chance of making that happen. But please don't ask me to believe that a house with mom and dad at war is the only acceptable alternative. Been there, done that ... would rather lose my left hand.

it's more traumatic.. coz it's holding into a traumatic situation..everyday you ar dealing with it right under your nose.. it's not good psychologically..for all concerned..Mom and Dad are fighting each other even with no words..the children have magical thinking and they're not stone not to feel such tensions..the nagging silence is deaftening..the children who's in the crossfire .everyday..That's more than hell..everyday..

Lust could only last up to a certain point. eventually something deeper would develop. what would you do if that happens?

DaPAT mga wife ..di dapat magkulang sa mister..there are a lot of decent wives who were left behind by their husbands for a GRO..My Hypothesis is ..maybe because the wife is boring, a nag,or so mean...Really guys.. or anyone who has experience about leaving the wife for a GRO..why do yoiu prefer the GRO? is this for a longer term withher?

I think...( di ako expert huh....thru my own experience lang) .... baka nga love sick lang...kung ganyan nga situation mo. Uh...you mean...lately mo lang na experience yan?....eh sa past bfs mo?....kase kung ganyan ka din sa past bfs mo...there must be something more to it....diba Joey Abad? and i think yang suicidal tendencies nag mamanifest yan kahit bata pa....

lately I've been having this uh...conversation (Thru PM...sa poemhunter) with a 13 yr old girl who has suicidal tendencies....everytime...something bad happens ( say...too much stress... or bad events)....she hurts herself....

napansin ko kase one time yung poem nya...sobrang alarming...kala ko nagpakamatay na sya so i PMd her asking if she was alright ( concerned ako kase....i started out thinking about suicide as early as 11 yrs old)....sumagot naman...sabi nya ( she's from the US) sabi nya...it's just one of those moments daw....tas she asked me if ii really cut daw kase binabasa nya rin pala mga poems ko...i hesitated to answer kase...baka gayahin pa nya ko lalo...tas nag PM sya sabi nya nag stop na daw sya from hurting herself ( cutting)....kaso...yun ...ngayon daw...may nangyaring masama ulet.....nag woworry ako so i PMd her again this morning...asking if she would care to share it with me. Actually di ko rin naman talaga alam how i'd be able to help her...kahit siguro malaman ko pa problem nya....it's just sad....

so i think Sweetania....kung ngayon mo lang yan na eexperience....at sa past Bfs mo naman ay inde.....baka nga love sick ka lang....but just the same....you need help parin.....malay mo....meron din palang late stage development ang pag ka bi-polar....isa pa baka naman kase sa life mo....wala ka naman talagang problema masyado....baka sa BF mo lang....kaya yun ang napapansin mo lang na nakaka apekto sayo? does your BF know about this? How is he taking it?

I am married and separated in room.. he built another house at the other end of a very big house..He's a rich guy..My husband is very rich.. that's why he's so controlling and matured than me.. I am a legal wife.. and I don't know if he has other women..Wala na ako pakialam..But I won't tell you if he's the main reason for my pseudobipolar.,.May Obssessive compulsive husband ko..napaka perfectionist grabe!..Kaya kami nag kahiwalay.. It's his nature na he can't stay with a woman.. he has past live-in partners before.. na di nag work out nasa kanya ang diprensya.. inamin nya..Obssessive..perfectionist cya.. and very abusive..mentally abusive.. grabe mag control sa mind..I was a dependent housewife of a richman before.. now i started to stand on my own feet.. i have a good job ..But i still live in the same big house and dahil sa laki ng house di na kami nagkikita.. really i'm telling you the real story here..I won't tell you if he's the reason for all of my pseudo bipolar..But Mayu nagyari na another impact sa buhay ko lately..dun nag start..and sorry.. i won't disclose it here ..And yes, i think I love that way..sa past BF ko..wala naman masyado.. of course i feel bad if mag hiwalay kami before sa mga past bf ko..but okey lang yun, di ako nakafeel ng sobra na ganito,.,...parang goin crazy talaga.. i am overwhelmed now..with all of these impacts of my life..

I do feel so depress and i think it's normal to be depressed everytime mag break tayo sa BF natin ..right... but now is really different.. kasi siguro.. sa pressure ng age ko.. i'm 30 and i must have a kid at this age.. and i must have a family and a life partner..Di ako papayag talaga na wala yan..Di pwede..I need that to sustain me..I can't live living alone..no way!

P.S. I am legally married and contemplating for a legal sep. or annulment.. but di na materialize di pa talaga, takot or coldfeet pa kami both sa annulment..But I think di ko na kaya ..i think i must ..para makahanap na ako ng partner,... I hate loneliness.. i can't bear it..It's killing me.