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#3361 jopoc

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Posted 15 September 2020 - 06:23 AM

I stand by my statement. The three reasons you cited on why Duque should be fired are the ones unsubstantiated. 

 

Remember, Du30 fires his cabinet members just allegations of wrongdoing. Du30 knows Duque much more than anybody of us in this forum. The fact that he still trusts Duque should tell you something. 

 

 

baka naman kasi "nagdedeliver" si duque kay duterte at sa mga minions nya ....

 

ikaw na nagsabi na for mere allegation, duterte fires his cabinet members, so something must be "special" kay duque for duterte not to fire him despite the allegations. 



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Posted 17 September 2020 - 05:54 PM

For me mahina si Duque. An old school official na walang diskarte.  Can't think out of the box. Kapag sinabing di kaya, walang gagawin.



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Posted 17 September 2020 - 10:35 PM

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Posted 19 September 2020 - 12:48 AM

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Posted 21 September 2020 - 01:35 PM

 

 

baka naman kasi "nagdedeliver" si duque kay duterte at sa mga minions nya ....

 

ikaw na nagsabi na for mere allegation, duterte fires his cabinet members, so something must be "special" kay duque for duterte not to fire him despite the allegations. 

Panyero, parang contradictory yata ang logic ng argument mo.  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

 

Ang tinatanong ko nga sa yo sa previous posts : Meron ka bang alam na ginagawang kababalaghan si Duque para masibak siya? Wala ka namang naisagot dati. 

 

Ngayon eto ka na naman sa speculation mo, na "baka naman kasi...".

 

Substantiate your allegations. 


Edited by camiar, 21 September 2020 - 01:43 PM.


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Posted 21 September 2020 - 01:52 PM

For me mahina si Duque. An old school official na walang diskarte.  Can't think out of the box. Kapag sinabing di kaya, walang gagawin.

That kind of reasoning will not get Duque fired. 

 

"Can't think outside the box" is so subjective, Duque can apply the same judgmental criteria to you and you'd also fail in his perspective.


Edited by camiar, 21 September 2020 - 08:02 PM.


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Posted 24 September 2020 - 07:41 AM

Panyero, parang contradictory yata ang logic ng argument mo.  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

 

Ang tinatanong ko nga sa yo sa previous posts : Meron ka bang alam na ginagawang kababalaghan si Duque para masibak siya? Wala ka namang naisagot dati. 

 

Ngayon eto ka na naman sa speculation mo, na "baka naman kasi...".

 

Substantiate your allegations. 

 

 

 

ikaw na nagsabi na mere allegation, tanggal kay digong, diba?

 

 

https://cnnphilippin...-contracts.html

 

https://newsinfo.inq...e-to-philhealth

 

ayan o, may ALLEGATION na...... in fact, plural pa yan, allegationS

 

 

wag na tayo umabot sa evidence, sabi mo kasi allegation lang, tanggal na kay digong. 



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Posted 24 September 2020 - 08:51 AM

That kind of reasoning will not get Duque fired. 

 

"Can't think outside the box" is so subjective, Duque can apply the same judgmental criteria to you and you'd also fail in his perspective.

 

  If his recent performance were done in a top private corporations, the CEO will fire him.  All his KPIs failed.  His action plans to achieve his KPIs will never pass in any Execoms sa proposal stage pa lang.  Kung palpak mga tao niya siya ang responsible to fire or replace that will do the their goals successfully.   Usec. Vergeire  doing a better job than him. 

 Du30 just standing by him kasi sabi niya mahirap magpalit ng General sa middle of the war.  



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Posted 24 September 2020 - 01:08 PM

 

 

 

ikaw na nagsabi na mere allegation, tanggal kay digong, diba?

 

 

https://cnnphilippin...-contracts.html

 

https://newsinfo.inq...e-to-philhealth

 

ayan o, may ALLEGATION na...... in fact, plural pa yan, allegationS

 

 

wag na tayo umabot sa evidence, sabi mo kasi allegation lang, tanggal na kay digong. 

I am against Duque as SOH but if Lacson is really serious, why doesn't he file a case with the Ombudsman? 



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Posted 24 September 2020 - 01:23 PM

 

  If his recent performance were done in a top private corporations, the CEO will fire him.  All his KPIs failed.  His action plans to achieve his KPIs will never pass in any Execoms sa proposal stage pa lang.  Kung palpak mga tao niya siya ang responsible to fire or replace that will do the their goals successfully.   Usec. Vergeire  doing a better job than him. 

 Du30 just standing by him kasi sabi niya mahirap magpalit ng General sa middle of the war.  

Non sequitur. Private corporations' KPIs are different from the National Government's. Tell me, how much do you know about DOH's KPI and goals? Can you name them? What is your basis for saying  "palpak ang mga tao nya" and he should fire them. 

 

Another non sequitur. Usec. Vergeire is doing a great job as DOH spokesperson. But she is not necessarily doing a better job than Duque because she's not the DOH Secretary.

 

I'm a CEO of a private company. If somebody comes to me with subjective complaints like this about one of my managers, I'll ask the informant to substantiate his allegations as basis for my own investigation. If he can't, nothing will (immediately) happen. I'll just keep it in mind as an interesting information for future evaluation. 


Edited by camiar, 24 September 2020 - 02:01 PM.


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Posted 24 September 2020 - 01:32 PM

 

 

 

ikaw na nagsabi na mere allegation, tanggal kay digong, diba?

 

 

https://cnnphilippin...-contracts.html

 

https://newsinfo.inq...e-to-philhealth

 

ayan o, may ALLEGATION na...... in fact, plural pa yan, allegationS

 

 

wag na tayo umabot sa evidence, sabi mo kasi allegation lang, tanggal na kay digong. 

 

Haay nako, halatang ikaw mismo, hindi nagbabasa sa mga articles na ini-link mo.

 

Mga allegations na ibinasura na ng Ombudsman & Supreme court. Hindi sya masisibak nang dahil dyan sa mga kumpanya na na-divest na nya.

 

Mahina arguments mo, panyero...


Edited by camiar, 24 September 2020 - 01:33 PM.


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Posted 24 September 2020 - 01:37 PM

I am against Duque as SOH but if Lacson is really serious, why doesn't he file a case with the Ombudsman? 

Lacson is not serious about it. 

He knows that the case has already been rejected by the Ombudman. 

He's just using the issue for political news mileage, para di naman sya mawala sa eksena.

 

Eh, si Lacson ba mismo, kumusta na? Anong nangyari na sa alleged smuggling case ng cement import company na involved siya at anak nya?


Edited by camiar, 24 September 2020 - 01:55 PM.


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Posted 24 September 2020 - 02:04 PM

Non sequitur. Private corporations' KPIs are different from the National Governments. Tell me, how much do you know about DOH's KPI and goals? Can you name them? What is your basis for saying  "palpak ang mga tao nya" and he should fire them. 

 

Another non sequitur. Sec. Vergeire is doing a great job as DOH spokesperson. But she is not necessarily doing better than Duque because she's not the DOH Secretary.

 

I'm a CEO of a private company. If somebody comes to me with subjective complaints like this about one of my managers, I'll ask the informant to substantiate his allegations as basis for my own investigation. If he can't, nothing will (immediately) happen. I'll just keep it in mind as an interesting information for future evaluation. 

 

Isang palpak is the giving of benefits sa mga health workers.  Sino pumalpak doon tao niya diba?  Hindi na nga pinansin ni Du30 yung command responsibility niya doon pero siya ang signatory para sa IRR.

2nd is the acquiring of testing kits during during the early stage of ECQ.  Mas nabawasan sana ang pagkalat.  Then the testing capacity, April pa lang sabi goal nila 30k capacity (Duque's report during the televised meeting with IATF and Du30), June na di pa rin umabot sa 30k. 

Contact tracing is inefficient.  Tinatanong lang sino kasama mo sa bahay then i quarantine sila.  Saw this first hand.

 

Hindi ko na sinama yung mga allegations ng Senate sa mga purchases ng DOH/Philhealth.  Sabi niya busy siya kaya di na niya nabantayan ang Philhealth.  As a CEO acceptableka ba  sagit niya?


Edited by haroots2, 24 September 2020 - 02:07 PM.


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Posted 24 September 2020 - 02:08 PM

Hanggan kailan magkakamali ang Pilipino sa pagboto ng tamang presidente na may vision para sa Plipinas at Pilipino.

 

Matutuo na ba tayo sa 2022?  Sayang talaga itong 6 taon.  

 

Ngayon nakita na natin na mismong pulis at afp ang nangunguna sa fake accounts sa FB.



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Posted 24 September 2020 - 02:22 PM

 

Isang palpak is the giving of benefits sa mga health workers.  Sino pumalpak doon tao niya diba?  Hindi na nga pinansin ni Du30 yung command responsibility niya doon pero siya ang signatory para sa IRR.

2nd is the acquiring of testing kits during during the early stage of ECQ.  Mas nabawasan sana ang pagkalat.  Then the testing capacity, April pa lang sabi goal nila 30k capacity (Duque's report during the televised meeting with IATF and Du30), June na di pa rin umabot sa 30k. 

Contact tracing is inefficient.  Tinatanong lang sino kasama mo sa bahay then i quarantine sila.  Saw this first hand.

I have already argued against this. You can't blame this on Duque because it's an existing inherent DOH weakness due to bureaucratic red tape. Walang magagawa ang isang hamak na cabinet secretary lang. Trabaho yan ng Presidente at ng Legislative (Congress) na alisin ang mga red tapes na nagpapabagal sa galaw ng gobyerno.

 

Contact tracing ay jurisdiction ng LGU. Guidelines lang ang pino-provide ng DOH. 
 

We had first hand experience in inefficiency in contact tracing by the LGU when one of our employees got covid infected but was asymptomatic. We realize that the LGU was overwhelmed and cannot do a proper contact tracing. Instead of complaining, we conducted our own contact tracing using DOH-published guidelines, and submitted the contact tracing report to the LGU. That was three weeks ago. Ngayon back to work na yung tao namin. Kung ipinaubaya namin yan sa LGU Health Officer, baka dalawang buwan na, naka-quarantine pa rin yung tao. Makipag-tulungan. Be Pro-active.


Edited by camiar, 25 September 2020 - 09:25 AM.

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Posted 26 September 2020 - 12:54 AM

. Makipag-tulungan. Be Pro-active.

 

hindi kasi normal ang ganyan sa Pinoy ngayon... as long natalo yung bata mo... hindi mo na nagagawa yung normal mong nagagawa tulad ng dati.. hindi mo na nakukuha yung mga gusto mo.... they will always hate the next President.



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Posted 27 September 2020 - 08:48 PM

 

Haay nako, halatang ikaw mismo, hindi nagbabasa sa mga articles na ini-link mo.

 

Mga allegations na ibinasura na ng Ombudsman & Supreme court. Hindi sya masisibak nang dahil dyan sa mga kumpanya na na-divest na nya.

 

Mahina arguments mo, panyero...

 

 

naiintidihan mo yung term na "just allegations of wrongdoing"?

 

highlight natin yung sinabi mo..... 

 

 

 

I stand by my statement. The three reasons you cited on why Duque should be fired are the ones unsubstantiated. 

 

Remember, Du30 fires his cabinet members just allegations of wrongdoing. Du30 knows Duque much more than anybody of us in this forum. The fact that he still trusts Duque should tell you something. 

 

 

Anybody can say that Duque is stealing from DOH... that an ALLEGATION OF WRONGDOING.... so how come ispesyal si duque kay tatay digs mo?

 

dinadaan mo na lang sa snide remarks ang mga sagot mo.... pa panye-panyero ka pang nalalaman.... focus on the topic, not on the ad hominems.



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Posted 30 September 2020 - 12:18 PM

I have already argued against this. You can't blame this on Duque because it's an existing inherent DOH weakness due to bureaucratic red tape. Walang magagawa ang isang hamak na cabinet secretary lang. Trabaho yan ng Presidente at ng Legislative (Congress) na alisin ang mga red tapes na nagpapabagal sa galaw ng gobyerno.

 

Contact tracing ay jurisdiction ng LGU. Guidelines lang ang pino-provide ng DOH. 
 

We had first hand experience in inefficiency in contact tracing by the LGU when one of our employees got covid infected but was asymptomatic. We realize that the LGU was overwhelmed and cannot do a proper contact tracing. Instead of complaining, we conducted our own contact tracing using DOH-published guidelines, and submitted the contact tracing report to the LGU. That was three weeks ago. Ngayon back to work na yung tao namin. Kung ipinaubaya namin yan sa LGU Health Officer, baka dalawang buwan na, naka-quarantine pa rin yung tao. Makipag-tulungan. Be Pro-active.

 

Ang red tape madali nang ayusin kung may initiative kay Duque.  Alam naman natin galit si Du30 sa red tape.  Ang Congress full support naman para sa crisis na ito.  So ang dapat lang malaman is ano ang kailangan ng DOH para mapabilis lahat at i discuss kay Du30 then i present sa Congress kung kailangan ng emergency powers para ditio.  Sabi mo nga maging pro active, yun ang wala kay Duque.  Just like in private companies,  kung may crisis and may company policy na dapat ma violate pero dapat gawin in time of crisis, ipapaalam mo lang sa execom or sa board para payagan ka na wala kang sabit.  Sila [a matutuwa sayo for having that initiave to solve the problem out of the box.

 

Sa office din namin we do our own contact tracing.  Pero ang problem talaga is sa residential area,  Yung kasama lang sa bahay ang inaalam, di man lang tanungin kung saan pa siya nagpunta within the community.  



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Posted 07 October 2020 - 09:20 PM

 

 

naiintidihan mo yung term na "just allegations of wrongdoing"?

 

highlight natin yung sinabi mo..... 

 

 

 

 

 

Anybody can say that Duque is stealing from DOH... that an ALLEGATION OF WRONGDOING.... so how come ispesyal si duque kay tatay digs mo?

 

dinadaan mo na lang sa snide remarks ang mga sagot mo.... pa panye-panyero ka pang nalalaman.... focus on the topic, not on the ad hominems.

Iisa lang ang sagot, panyero.

 

Walang basehan ang allegation, kaya walang nangyari sa haka-haka nila. Sa akala mo ba dyaryo lang ang basehan ng Presidente para timbangin kung totoo ba ang mga paratang sa cabinet members nya? Eh sayang naman ang intelligence staff ng Office of the President!

 

May mas malalim na pinagkukunan si Digong, panyero.

 

Kaya di pinakinggan ng Presidente yung mga mapanira, at kaya naman DOH secretary pa rin si Duque.



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Posted 07 October 2020 - 09:34 PM

 

Ang red tape madali nang ayusin kung may initiative kay Duque.  Alam naman natin galit si Du30 sa red tape.  Ang Congress full support naman para sa crisis na ito.  So ang dapat lang malaman is ano ang kailangan ng DOH para mapabilis lahat at i discuss kay Du30 then i present sa Congress kung kailangan ng emergency powers para ditio.  Sabi mo nga maging pro active, yun ang wala kay Duque.  Just like in private companies,  kung may crisis and may company policy na dapat ma violate pero dapat gawin in time of crisis, ipapaalam mo lang sa execom or sa board para payagan ka na wala kang sabit.  Sila [a matutuwa sayo for having that initiave to solve the problem out of the box.

 

Sa office din namin we do our own contact tracing.  Pero ang problem talaga is sa residential area,  Yung kasama lang sa bahay ang inaalam, di man lang tanungin kung saan pa siya nagpunta within the community.  

 

Alam mo ba kung ilang layers ang signatures para ma-release ang mga funds na sinasabi mo?

Alam mo ba kung ilang buwan o taon ang hinihintay bago ma-release ang allowances nila? Lalu't lalu na yung mga ad-hoc fund releases na tulad ng tinutukoy mo.

 

Lahat yan ay dahil sa batas. Hangga't hindi inaayos ng Congress ang mga batas na yan, at hindi binabago ng COA ang rules nila sa pag-audit ng funds releases, hindi mawawala ang red tape. Hindi mapapabilis ang release ng pondo.

 

 

REgarding contact tracing: Mabuti naman at kayo mismo, nakaranas magsagawa ng contact tracing. Maiintindihan nyo kung gaano kahirap. Kaya wag sisihin ang DOH. Trabaho yan ng LGU. Wag ding sisihin ang LGU. Mahirap gawin talaga ito sa Metro Manila dahil maraming transient residents na hindi nakarehistro. Makipag tulungan na lang.

 


Edited by camiar, 07 October 2020 - 09:43 PM.






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