Apo Marcos : Facts And Myths

[jc44 - RETIRED]

"Marcos was acquitted of 32 counts of dollar-salting in 2008 by the Manila Regional Trial Court (RTC)) under Judge Silvino Pampilo Jr. Dollar-salting is the criminal act of stashing foreign currency money abroad without the authority of the Central Bank.

After the Marcoses fled the country in 1986, the government of former president Corazon Aquino found documents in Malacañang that revealed a number of Swiss bank accounts where dollar purchases were deposited.

Swiss investigating magistrate Peter Cosenday froze the Swiss banks, and gave the Philippine government a one-year timeline to file cases. To this day, the money is held in escrow by the Philippine government and is part of the continuing efforts to recover ill-gotten wealth.

But to hold the Marcoses criminally accountable, the Presidential Commission on Good Government (PCGG) filed 32 counts of violation of the Central Bank Act using the documents as evidence.

 

However, Judge Pampilo acquitted Mrs Marcos because the prosecution presented as witnesses only PCGG and Office of the Solicitor General (OSG) officials to authenticate the documents.

This, Pampilo said, makes their testimonies hearsay because they are neither the source of documents nor do they have personal knowledge." (quoting a Rappler article discussing the case.)

Acquitted on technicality. I agree with the decision. Palpak yan ng prosecution.

The problem here is that you are conflating the absence of a conviction with a finding of innocence. Legally, correct. Rationally, mali. Just because a criminal gets away with the crime doesn't mean she didn't commit the crime. Yan ang problema sa logic mo ever since. And as usual, hindi ka pa rin umaasenso.

[will robie]

 

The problem here is that you are conflating the absence of a conviction with a finding of innocence. Legally, correct. Rationally, mali. Just because a criminal gets away with the crime doesn't mean she didn't commit the crime. Yan ang problema sa logic mo ever since. And as usual, hindi ka pa rin umaasenso.

 

Criminal because you said so? Haha! Imelda got acquitted. If you think she's a criminal, go on believing your warped beliefs. There is no problem with my logic, carter. It seems you have an apparent problem with acceptance. Your nonsensical ad hominems won't change the fact that Imelda was acquitted. Don't make your bitterness obvious, carter. I am relishing this putatively bitter post. Live with it. Hahaha!

Edited September 25, 2018 by will robie

[tk421]

Imelda Marcos found guilty of graft, faces arrest

 

https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/11/09/18/imelda-marcos-found-guilty-of-graft

 

BURN! LOL.

Edited November 9, 2018 by tk421

[daphne loves derby]

JUSTICE IS SERVED

 

JUST IN: Sandiganbayan 5th Division FINDS IMELDA MARCOS GUILTY BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT of 7 counts of graft. She is sentenced to prison of 6years and 1 month to 11 years maximum for each count

 

CONTEXT: This is for the charges filed way back in 1991 for allegedly creating private organizations in Switzerland while holding government posts from 1968 to 1986.

Edited November 9, 2018 by daphne loves derby

[will robie]

I can’t help but laugh at people who are are having a blast at this news. Before you rejoice, make sure that Imeldific actually lands in jail. Her case is still appealable. Haha!

[tk421]

Whatever. It still invalidates your long time defense "have any of the Marcoses been found guilty of corruption". Well... here you go. Enjoy the burn!

[Dyson-sila]

Whatever. It still invalidates your long time defense "have any of the Marcoses been found guilty of corruption". Well... here you go. Enjoy the burn!

 

Imelda would not be put into jail. kasi matanda na siya. Matandang convict according sandiganbayan. Kayo kase mga delawan eh. hindi ninyo tinantanan. ayan tuloy naging convict.

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[will robie]

You can shout to high heavens that Imelda has been convicted but it has not been ruled with finality. But go ahead and cheer. It is not a sin to cheer for something that has not been achieved and that is getting a Marcos behind bars. Go ahead and cheer lustily.

Edited November 9, 2018 by will robie

[juan t]

Imelda, as crooked as she is, will never be put behind bars.

 

Either of the following will happen:

 

1) the appellate court will find a flimsy excuse to overturn the decision,

2) her conviction will be sustained, but she will not be jailed due to humanitarian reasons or

3) she will be pardoned by bff Duterte.

 

She will remain free for as long as she lives. She, her children, and her grandchildren will enjoy the stolen wealth for as long as they live. Dumbass loyalists will continue to worship that family and insist the Marcoses are innocent without being able to show an ounce of evidence to support their claim.

[will robie]

Yes, Imelda will never be put behind bars. There will be an Motion for Reconsideration filed and if that fails, the Supreme Court will be the final arbiter. I doubt Imelda will be convicted with finality by the SC if it goes to the SC. Bitter yellowtards can only sigh in exasperation.

 

Sige pa. Magsabi ka pa ng "burn, baby, burn!"

Edited November 9, 2018 by will robie

[daphne loves derby]

[rooster69ph]

Edited November 10, 2018 by rooster69ph

[will robie]

Sa mga dilawan na troll na pumapalakpak ang tenga, this one's for you:

 

Edited November 10, 2018 by will robie

[daphne loves derby]

[tk421]

Kahit hindi yan makulong, the point is she was found to be corrupt and that will never be erased from the records.

 

Yun isa dyan siguradong sigurado na ma a acquit sa SC... siguro alam niya na corrupt din kasi mga naka upo dun ngayon.

[haroots2]

Kahit hindi yan makulong, the point is she was found to be corrupt and that will never be erased from the records.

 

Yun isa dyan siguradong sigurado na ma a acquit sa SC... siguro alam niya na corrupt din kasi mga naka upo dun ngayon.

 

If SC reverse the decision it will not be in the record that she is a convicted criminal diba?

[will robie]

Haha! I can’t help but be amused at how the yellow troll thinks. Another dumb post showing its ignorance. :lol;

[tk421]

 

If SC reverse the decision it will not be in the record that she is a convicted criminal diba?

 

Are you sure ma ri reverse yun decision? On what grounds?

[tk421]

Pero ang bilis mag pounce ng pulis sa pag aresto sa mga political enemies ni Dutete, pero pag dating dito kay Marcos takot sila kung "magalit yun matanda", 'no?

[haroots2]

 

Are you sure ma ri reverse yun decision? On what grounds?

 

Diba base sa post mo corrupt din yung SC, so sinabi ko lang yung epekto sa records kung magkakatotoo nga yun.

[camiar]

 

If SC reverse the decision it will not be in the record that she is a convicted criminal diba?

Most probable scenario is that at her age, Imelda will fade away and die from old age while the case is still under review by SC. She will most probably not go to jail. And she will likely die without a guilty verdict on her record.

Kawawa naman si TK421. She won't be able to move on with her life.

[rooster69ph]

Most probable scenario is that at her age, Imelda will fade away and die from old age while the case is still under review by SC. She will most probably not go to jail. And she will likely die without a guilty verdict on her record.

 

Kawawa naman si TK421. She won't be able to move on with her life.

nagpapauso ka na naman...nagpapalaganap ka na naman ng fake news

 

kung sakali kaya nga napunta sa SC yun kaso kasi nahatulan/convicted na siya ng sandigan and na deny yun MFR niya.

 

anong pinagsasabi mong she will die without a guilty verdict IF she dies from old age while the case is under review. on the contrary if that happens she will die without getting acquitted.

[will robie]

nagpapauso ka na naman...nagpapalaganap ka na naman ng fake news

 

kung sakali kaya nga napunta sa SC yun kaso kasi nahatulan/convicted na siya ng sandigan and na deny yun MFR niya.

 

anong pinagsasabi mong she will die without a guilty verdict IF she dies from old age while the case is under review. on the contrary if that happens she will die without getting acquitted.

The fact of the matter is the conviction is not yet final and executory. The conviction can still be reversed in the same court or a higher court. camiar just painted a scenario that it goes all the way to the SC. It can't be fake news since that is his opinion. Sablay ka na naman.

[rooster69ph]

The fact of the matter is the conviction is not yet final and executory. The conviction can still be reversed in the same court or a higher court. camiar just painted a scenario that it goes all the way to the SC. It can't be fake news since that is his opinion. Sablay ka na naman.

another dumb argument ...finding some consolation in the argument that it is not yet final and executory.

 

the fact is she got convicted already. the only reason it is not yet final and executory is because the court still allows her to file a MFR. But anyone who uses his brains will understand that if the case did reach the SC was because the conviction was upheld by the Sandigan. so the conviction stays. but then she can still go to the SC to reverse the conviction.

 

isa lang ang tanong ko in the picture he painted was she acquitted by the SC? hence papaano masasabing she will die without a guilty record???

 

hahaha...pauso pa more mga loyalista ng kurakot

Edited November 12, 2018 by rooster69ph

[will robie]

another dumb argument ...finding some consolation in the argument that it is not yet final and executory.

 

the fact is she got convicted already. the only reason it is not yet final and executory is because the court still allows her to file a MFR. But anyone who uses his brains will understand that if the case did reach the SC was because the conviction was upheld by the Sandigan. so the conviction stays. but then she can still go to the SC to reverse the conviction.

 

isa lang ang tanong ko in the picture he painted was she acquitted by the SC? hence papaano masasabing she will die without a guilty record???

 

hahaha...pauso pa more mga loyalista ng kurakot

How can it be a dumb argument when it's a fact? Haha! How many times does your foot have to get stuck in your mouth?

 

Ano kamo? The only reason it is not final and executory is because the court still allows her to file an MR? Hahaha! This post shows your ignorance. It is a legal remedy and it is a defendant's right to file that, hence, it is not the only reason but one of the reasons because if the MR is rejected, there is still the SC. Your post is contradictory. First you say that filing the MR is the only reason it is not yet final and executory. Then in the next breath, you say that if the case reaches the SC is because the conviction was upheld by the Sandiganbayan. The second paragraph is a case of shooting yourself in the foot. You're getting confused.

 

Yellowtards seem to have this fixation of having one foot getting stuck in their mouths.

Edited November 12, 2018 by will robie