Guitar Talk

[16track]

The movie "CROSSROADS" was pretty good--soundtrack wise.

Steve Vai was awesome as the Demon's boy and the duel he played against Eugene (Ralph Machio's character) was one for the books.

 

For the record, all the guitar parts as played by Ralph Machio was actually recorded and played by

slide master Ry Cooder. He and Vai worked out the guitar duel and nicknamed the scene as "Eugene's Bag of Tricks".

 

Steve Vai was in dropped D tuning, ( let me check my files on that ) while Ry Cooder was in standard.

 

The subject of Eugene's adventure was the search for a lost recording of Robert Johnson. Johnson was a true to life bluesman who was said to have sold his soul to the devil in exchange for some exemplary special chops. The place where he met the devil was at a Crossroads. After recording a handful of some of the most memorable and most difficult to play blues songs, Robert Johnson died(murdered via poison in his drink) --presumably, as legends would have it- as a payback collection by the devil.

 

Robert Johnson is very real --and Gibson actually has created a Robert Johnson model of the acoustic guitar that he played. His story is told and re-told and the best so far was that of the movie Crossroads.

Eric Clapton idolized Robert Johnson as well as Duanne Allman, Jimmy Page, Keith Richards and Dicky Betts. Statesboro Blues, Travelling Riverside Blues, Malted Milk, Rollin and Tumblin are just some of the classics covered by Clapton, Led Zeppelin, ALlman Brothers and the Rolling Stones.

 

Robert Johnson favored playing in Open G or Open E tunings.

 

Rock On!

Edited August 11, 2005 by 16track

[enki]

Check this out - kakaibang tapping technique:

 

http://sodomlia.hp.infoseek.co.jp/sample/tv.mpg

[16track]

Hmmm.. That guitarist certainly took tapping to a whole new level..

hahah!

 

 

Check this out - kakaibang tapping technique: 

 

http://sodomlia.hp.infoseek.co.jp/sample/tv.mpg

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[milhouse83]

Honestly, I suffer from G.A.S. or what is called Guitar Acquisition Syndrome..

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ive had this in my highschool days too. in school, i was known for my massive guitar (and porn) collection.. i used to own 12 guitars, a lot of them were just korean copies though.. the only "significant" guitar there was a B.C. Rich warlock. I constantly change strings too.. there's not one week that passes by that i don't change strings on at least two of those guitars. Ive changed strings so many times that become an expert at it! My move to the US has forced me to choose only one guitar to bring along with me.. i chose the warlock of course. Somewhere in the manila right now, there's a storage room with 11 of my guitars. I hope my dad hasn't sold them away or anything..

 

just recently purchased a rockton planet distortion stompbox. and its now the one piece of effect equipment i cant live without. it easily delivers a high gain, mid scooped tone that ive been looking for. other distortion pedals need a separate EQ unit to achieve this level of "scoop".

 

btw.. ive been now cured of G.A.S.! in fact, i was able to last an entire year on just one set of strings, believe it or not. that GHS fast fret really works!

[scent ofa woman]

para kanino yang kantang yan? tugtugin ko para sayo gusto mo? uwi ka muna dito.

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Whoever will play it for me... that's gonna be for him..

[elite]

Whoever will play it for me... that's gonna be for him..

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pag-uwi mo dito... sunduin kita... tas kantahin ko sayo yan...

[furian]

Check this out - kakaibang tapping technique: 

 

http://sodomlia.hp.infoseek.co.jp/sample/tv.mpg

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oo nga pareng enki kakaibang tapping nga un

 

may mga bass scales kb dyan ???

[molotov00]

This is great!!

 

What a nice way to end my day learning there is now a thread for guitarists in MTC. I just bought a new guitar this afternoon. A Fender Spanish and I got it for a steal. I was drooling over a Washburn that cost $1,000. Financing was available, but that was still too much for now. Sa Christmas na lang.

 

I see you all play electric. Let me be different yet not out-of-place.

 

I haven't played in a while. I used to take summer lessons at the U.P. College of Music (upon the insistence of my dad, who's an excellent player himself), and it'll take a while to be able to pluck properly again (the classical way), not to mention grow my nails. Jeez. Hehe. That's the way to do it.

 

My cousin plays incredibly well. He was sent on a scholarship to Madrid just to hone his skill. Shoot. Will I ever get to his level? Gawd, I hope so.

 

Let's jam!! Have a great day, everyone.

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WOW! Madrid?!?! ayos yan ah!

 

I've been playing the guitar for more than ten years already. When I first started my dad made me take lessons in yamaha for classical but I didn't really study it since I wanted to play grunge at that time. I kinda got into listening to gipsy kings and some bossa nova stuff a few years back. I read some stuff on the net and taught my self to be able to play flamenco sounding or classical sounding stuff. grew my nails too.

 

here is some of my (not so good quality) recordings

http://www.soundclick.com/artist/4/adrianarguelles_music.htm

 

I would like to learn more about classical and flamenco. the lessons in UP whats the schedule? how much? what are the requirements? is it personal lessons or are you taught as a group? what else do i need to know? how can you end up going to madrid?

[molotov00]

How much is the cheapest guitar tunner?

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if your posting using your computer you can install cakewalk. you can try to download or try buying a pirated cd. it comes with a tuner program. you just need a mike.

[enki]

oo nga pareng enki  kakaibang  tapping  nga un

 

may mga  bass scales kb dyan ???

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Sorry pre wala akong libro sa scales. I used to have one pero nawala ko na. Even when I had it I never studied it that much. I just focused dun sa mga common scales at worked more (still working ) on my technique and timing.

 

Cheers!

[16track]

Hi millhouse!

 

Just in case you or your dad will want to "dispose" of your collection, please let me know. I just maybe interested in what you may have. I am still afflicetd with GAS! hehe

 

A Warlock? Wow! That's one guitar I never owned but I did have a chance to try it out years ago. BC Rich stopped producing guitars for some time but is now making a comeback--although a few of the models are made outside the US. This makes the US made ones highkly collectible. Hold on to yours!

 

 

Yep, I agree Rocktrons are great buys. Unfortunately, those are quite rare in Manila. A small shop did sell them for awhile but the shop has since closed.

 

 

CHeers!

 

 

 

 

 

ive had this in my highschool days too. in school, i was known for my massive guitar (and porn) collection..    i used to own 12 guitars, a lot of them were just korean copies though.. the only "significant" guitar there was a B.C. Rich warlock. I constantly change strings too.. there's not one week that passes by that i don't change strings on at least two of those guitars. Ive changed strings so many times that become an expert at it! My move to the US has forced me to choose only one guitar to bring along with me.. i chose the warlock of course. Somewhere in the manila right now, there's a storage room with 11 of my guitars. I hope my dad hasn't sold them away or anything..

 

just recently purchased a rockton planet distortion stompbox. and its now the one piece of effect equipment i cant live without.  it easily delivers a high gain, mid scooped tone that ive been looking for. other distortion pedals need a separate EQ unit to achieve this level of "scoop".

 

btw.. ive been now cured of G.A.S.!  in fact, i was able to last an entire year on just one set of strings, believe it or not. that GHS fast fret really works!

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[telemaster_311]

whats your axes mga chong? i heard yupang will be relasing JACKSON guitars here all japanese made! just thought of sharing it...dami kasi naka ibanez eh hehehe

[Dr.Love]

Solid Ibanez fan ako. Nasanay na kasi ako sa necks nila.

[bakedzitiguy]

I watched crossroads and it a good movie. I heard about Johnson but I thought he died in a car crash. that added to his rep*tation about selling his soul to the devil.. anyway, wanted to ask you guys about any good self learn guitar books. I took some guitar lessons before but had to drop it when i entered med school. any suggestions. hopefully if i practice regularly i can refresh my memory sa chords.

Edited August 13, 2005 by bakedzitiguy

[cooldad]

Medyo off konti but still related to Guitars.I got 3 T-shirts from American Boulevard recently.A Gibson,A Washburn and A Fender.Simple pero astig.The type of shirts you'd want to wear in a gig.Pa pogi ika nga..

 

But then a gain,If you're as good as Satch,Vai,Johnson,Maalmsteen,Slowhand,Van Halen,Santana or Slash,who needs shirts??? :thumbsupsmiley: ROCK ON!

[16track]

HI!

 

Nice to know you heard of Robert Johnson. Johnson died when a jealous hsuband spiked his drink with poison. The thing about is that even in death, Johnson was just as puzzling as there were reports on him being shot, being stabbed and figuring in a car crash. The one written in police logs had him sipping that spiked drink.

 

After death, the mistery still hung about him as now there are two grave sites in two differnt locations both proclaiming Johnson sleeps there.

 

As for the books, there certainly are so many to recommend but you can actually go to many websites that are just as good and which can offer lessons from chords to modes -- from intermediate to advanced.

 

 

Rock on!

 

 

I watched crossroads and it a good movie. I heard about Johnson but I thought he died in a car crash. that added to his rep*tation about selling his soul to the devil.. anyway, wanted to ask you guys about any good self learn guitar books.  I took some guitar lessons before but had to drop it when i entered med school. any suggestions. hopefully if i practice regularly i can refresh my memory sa chords.

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[bods1000]

HI!

 

Nice to know you heard of Robert Johnson. Johnson died when a jealous hsuband spiked his drink with poison. The thing about is that even in death, Johnson was just as puzzling as there were reports on him being shot, being stabbed and figuring in a car crash. The one written in police logs had him sipping that spiked drink.

 

After death, the mistery still hung about him as now there are two grave sites in two differnt locations both proclaiming Johnson sleeps there.

 

As for the books, there certainly are so many to recommend but you can actually go to many websites that are just as good and which can offer lessons from chords to modes -- from intermediate to advanced.

Rock on!

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aba blues na pinag-uusapan!

I think Robert Johnson became bigger in death, I mean his legend, than when he was alive.

Which is the case with all those black bluesmen who lived during the Depression years - Lightnin' Hopkins, Blind Willie McTell, Big Bill Broonzy, Son House etc. The only old bluesman who got some kind of recognition and some decent recording deals before he passed away was John Lee Hopkins. Of course BB King is still very much alive and much more famous today than he was in the 50's and 60's...

[16track]

Yo Bods!

 

Correct you are, my friend!

 

It's taken a couple of generations for these journeymen to be recognized. Ironically though, Americans got to know of the blues and the way these bluesmen played guitar--via the Britsih Acts who invaded the US in the 60's and 70's.

 

The Rolling Stones loved Muddy Waters so much they named their group after one of his songs. Led Zeppelin did quite a few covers of Johnson. HOwlin Wolf was also favorite of the Who and Yardbirds.

 

Technically speaking, the blues continues to evolve in a way that the other genres have not. Guitar players have continually adapted modern techniques of playing into the manner they play the blues and yet the blues still retain the specific flavor and taste which has made it last for generations. The differences between the guitar playing of Big Bill Broonzy and Gary Moore are world's apart and yet they both play the blues.

 

On the other hand, Eric Clapton has taken the exact opposite route as most other electric guitar players who are into the Blues. Clapton has played the blues as close to the originals as possible-- a difficult task as Clapton will aways retain the sound and the feel which makes him readily identifiable----but nonetheless, a gallant and noble effort for a man who has played almost everything and anything. Some of his best work, as exemplified in Eric Clapton's Unplugged gig for MTV --shows how advanced his acoustic guitar playing has evolved when he tackled such numbers as Walkin Blues, Malted Milk, Old Love, NObody KNows you When you're Down and out.

 

REcently, Clapton did a duet album with BB King--the grammy award winning album was titled "RIDING WITH THE KING" and here BB King and Eric exchange some really deep solos of their songs. ONe of the highlights was an acoustic duet with both players going through Big Bill's "Keys TO the Highway".

 

 

Rock on!

 

 

 

 

aba blues na pinag-uusapan!

I think Robert Johnson became bigger in death, I mean his legend, than when he was alive.

Which is the case with all those black bluesmen who lived during the Depression years - Lightnin' Hopkins, Blind Willie McTell, Big Bill Broonzy, Son House etc. The only old bluesman who got some kind of recognition and some decent recording deals before he passed away was John Lee Hopkins. Of course BB King is still very much alive and much more famous today than he was in the 50's and 60's...

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[16track]

In Terms of upgrade, the simple things I did to one of my Strats was:

 

1. Replaced the tuners with Locking Sperzels. The Sperzels took out all the tuning problems when using the trem as the strings are locked in place without any winding at all. Just insert the string's end into the Sperzel's hole, stretch it a bit, turn the thrum wheels at the back to lock and that's it. A couple of turns and you're in tune.

 

2. I also replaced the pickups with a set of 3 new pick ups model 57/62. The 57/62 reperesents the best years in Fender's pickup fabrication and the sound you get is a bell like clean with just enough heat for some serious gain. Not like the hot Texas Specials, the 57/62 is smoother but not as powerful.

 

3. Took out the new version saddles and installed the vinatge "Fender" Stamped saddles.

 

4. Adjusted the claw strings at the trem block to have the bridge somewhat floating. This setup allows for at least a half step tone bend up and a smooth action dive--though the dive is not as deep as the Floyd.

 

5. Tweaks on the truss rod to compensate for the raising of the bridge.

 

6. Since the SPerzels were finished in Gold, I took off all the visible screws in the pickguard and replaced them with a set of gold finished screws.

 

 

The Fender Strat is a great guitar which allows for some modifications by the owner --done by themselves or by a trained guitar luthier.

[telemaster_311]

hi guys, hello sir 16track! i have a question about fenders guitars...im planning to purchase one sometime soon hopefully if my budget will allow me. what do you think about the fender american standard model? have you tried any? im comparing notes right now coz i know this will be a big investment on my part coz its pretty expensive.

 

im also considering some guitars with locking trems an ibanez or jackson on the same price range. i just want a good US made guitar this time. would you care to comment on this? thanks!

[bods1000]

Yo Bods!

 

Correct you are, my friend!

 

It's taken a couple of generations for these journeymen to be recognized. Ironically though, Americans got to know of the blues and the way these bluesmen played guitar--via the Britsih Acts who invaded the US in the 60's and 70's.

 

The Rolling Stones loved Muddy Waters so much they named their group after one of his songs. Led Zeppelin did quite a few covers of Johnson. HOwlin Wolf was also  favorite of the Who and Yardbirds.

 

Technically speaking, the blues continues to evolve in a way that the other genres have not. Guitar players have continually adapted modern techniques of playing into the manner they play the  blues and yet the blues still retain the specific flavor and taste which has made it last for generations. The differences between the guitar playing of Big Bill Broonzy and Gary Moore are world's apart and yet they both play the blues.

 

On the other hand, Eric Clapton has taken the exact opposite route as most other electric guitar players who are into the Blues. Clapton has played the blues as close to the originals as possible-- a difficult task as Clapton will aways retain the sound and the feel which makes him readily identifiable----but nonetheless, a  gallant and noble effort for a man who has played almost everything and anything. Some of his best work, as exemplified in Eric Clapton's Unplugged gig for MTV --shows how advanced his acoustic guitar playing has evolved when he tackled such numbers as Walkin Blues, Malted Milk, Old Love, NObody KNows you When you're Down and out.

 

REcently, Clapton did a duet album with BB King--the grammy award winning album was titled "RIDING WITH THE KING" and here BB King and Eric exchange some really deep solos of their songs. ONe of the highlights was an acoustic duet with both players going through Big Bill's "Keys TO the Highway".

Rock on!

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The British guitarists paved a lonely way before the music got recognized and adopted by the Americans. Think John Mayall, Peter Green of the original Fleetwood Mac, Jimmy Page in his Yardbirds days, Clapton when he was known as a God in the late 60's and early 70's. All of them got hooked on the old blues masters.

I have Clapton's From The Cradle where he plays versions of all these old blues songs - like Muddy Waters' Hoochie Coochie Man, Lowell Fulson's Reconsider Baby, Eddie Boyd's Five Long Years, Elmore James' It Hurts Me Too and others...

But I haven't gotten hold of his Me and Mr. Johnson, and Sessions for Robert J. which from the titles would be some sort of tribute to Robert Johnson...

you're right about that thing about blues being played different ways but still the same old spirit - from the barebones guitarplaying and moaning of the Delta bluesmen to the metallic sound of the Chicago bluesmen like Buddy Guy but they're all gooooood!

[16track]

Telemaster:

 

Good question you got there! A guitar is an investment not only for your soul but also for the obvious reason of finance. A good guitar--say, the Fender American Standard-- can last your lifetime and even be passed on to your son and then to his.

 

Most of the US made guitars are excellently constructed and will defintiely appreciate in value. All my guitars have appreciated --inluding the Korean made ones. I have never sold a guitar at a price lower than what I paid for.

 

The American Standard series of Strats, Teles and basses were created by Fender precisely to lift Fender's sagging image in the worldwide market in the 70's. Believe it or not, Fender went through some very hard years-- mostly after Leo Fender sold the company to CBS-- when their guitars were percieved to have been of lesser quality. Sales dropped and many players started playing other guitars. This period refelct the rise of Ibanez, BC Rich, Washburn, Yamaha, Ovations etc...

 

This was the period 1965 to early 70's. This was also the time the Japanese made Fenders hit it big in the 70's as they were then looked at aas having better quality than the US made ones and also offered at such lower prices. It was that bad. CBS then sold the company to one of their top employees ( I think it was Bill Shultz) who then transformed the company back to it's original glory.

 

The vehicle that Fender rode to its recovery was the American Standard series which had better workmanship, better parts, better pickups--over all an excellent made guitar. One difference was that the American Standard also sported the new 2 Point Fulcrum Tremolo as compared to the original Fenders that had the 6 screw trem blocks. Players often say this was a better design -but that it debatable.

 

Don't wory about Fenders. They are good to play and will be your friend for a long time. Fenders, by the way, have different neck sizes and forms. Try to play several models before making your purchase as you familiarize yourself with V necks, C necks and U necks.

 

Each type of neck has a diferent feel and --- IN THE CASE OF ROSEWOOD and MAPLE fingerboards, will have a different tone. Rosewood tend to have a warmer, darker tone. Think SRV and Jeff Beck and Ritchie Sambora (he endorses Gibson now) when you see Rosewood boards. Maple has a brighter tone-- think Hendrix, David Gilmour, Clapton and Yngwie Malmsteen for Maple.

 

Ibanez , Jackson, ESP are wonderful axes that generally shouts "Shredder" to any one who looks at them. Well made with slim fast necks, very low and comfortable string action, light bodies, good electronics and stable solid Floyd Rose Trem systems (in some cases-- a Kahler system in place of a FLoyd.) These guitars are like Katana blades-- very useful to a skilled samurai -- but totally wasted on a wanker. I meant this with no offense but there are many who buy these guitars without even having an idea of what a Floyd Rose Double locking trem is or how to use it. Sayang as these FR eqipped guitars are not cheap.

 

But you seem to know what they are so I say.. "Go for it, dude!" Those guitars are great! I have an old Fernandez that has a Floyd Rose too! So there!

 

In the end of it all, you buy the guitar that feels right for you. When you go that path, nothing can go wrong as long as you buy what your heart desires!

 

ROCK ON!

 

 

 

hi guys, hello sir 16track! i have a question about fenders guitars...im planning to purchase one sometime soon hopefully if my budget will allow me.  what do you think about the fender american standard model? have you tried any? im comparing notes right now coz i know this will be a big investment on my part coz its pretty expensive.

 

im also considering some guitars with locking trems an ibanez or jackson on the same price range.  i just want a good US made guitar this time.  would you care to comment on this? thanks!

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Edited August 17, 2005 by 16track

[16track]

Bods, bro!

 

You really know your music!

 

I have the first John Mayall "Beano" Album with Eric Clapton and it's a gem. Peter Green is an excellent guitar player but he kinds lost his marbles for some 2 decades-- never playing a guitar and letting his finger nails grow long on purpose so as to avoid playing. He gave away royalities to his records and just wasted away until maybe about 5 years ago when emerged and said he was healed of his mental problems and started to record again.

 

Gary Moore's 1957 or 58 Les Paul was "THE " guitar of Peter Green. The same one he used in all those Mayall records and concerts and early Fleetwood Mac. Peter sold it to Gary for almost nothing --as he was in a low mental state. Gary did not know Green was a mental case by then so he paid for it-- Peter was in fact Gary Moore's hero and Gary made that guitar his numbern one.

 

Pare, lets get together one time and just listen to these guys while taking a doze of fine red wine. It will be great to share the music!

Cheers!

 

 

 

The British guitarists paved a lonely way before the music got recognized and adopted by the Americans. Think John Mayall, Peter Green of the original Fleetwood Mac, Jimmy Page in his Yardbirds days, Clapton when he was known as a God in the late 60's and early 70's. All of them got hooked on the old blues masters.

I have Clapton's From The Cradle where he plays versions of all these old blues songs - like Muddy Waters' Hoochie Coochie Man, Lowell Fulson's Reconsider Baby, Eddie Boyd's Five Long Years, Elmore James' It Hurts Me Too and others...

But I haven't gotten hold of his Me and Mr. Johnson, and Sessions for Robert J. which from the titles would be some sort of tribute to Robert Johnson...

you're right about that thing about blues being played different ways but still the same old spirit - from the barebones guitarplaying and moaning of the Delta bluesmen to the metallic sound of the Chicago bluesmen like Buddy Guy but they're all gooooood!

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[bods1000]

Bods, bro!

 

You really know your music!

 

I have the first John Mayall "Beano" Album with Eric Clapton and it's a gem. Peter Green is an excellent guitar player but he kinds lost his marbles for some 2 decades-- never playing a guitar and letting his finger nails grow long on purpose so as to avoid playing. He gave away royalities to his records and just wasted away until maybe about 5 years ago when emerged and said he was healed of his mental problems and started to record again.

 

Gary Moore's 1957 or 58 Les Paul was "THE " guitar of Peter Green. The same one he used in all those Mayall records and concerts and early Fleetwood Mac. Peter sold it to Gary for almost nothing --as he was in a low mental state. Gary did not know Green was  a  mental case by then so he paid for it-- Peter was in fact Gary Moore's hero and Gary made that guitar his numbern one.

 

Pare, lets get together one time and just listen to these guys while taking a doze of fine red wine. It will be great to share the music!

Cheers!

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pare that should be a classic - I only have this Mayall album from the 70's - a double LP set with an all-star guitar ensemble. Called Back To The Roots it had Clapton, Mick Taylor, Harvey Mandel and Johnny Almond as guests on some recordings of his. Just recently I got his Along For The Ride album - a new recording about 4 or 5 years ago and it had as guests Gary Moore, the ZZ Tops' Billy Gibbons, Mick Taylor, Mick Fleetwood, John Mcvie, Jeff Healey, Steve Miller and ....Peter Green!! It had great and amazing songs on it.

 

Didn't know that thing about Peter Green. Kaya pala nawala yun but I saw a CD of his at Tower just recently. For the man who composed Black Magic Woman and Oh Yeah, that talent should never go to waste even if you're in your 50's now which I guess is his age now.

 

Pare sige say when where I'll bring my collection and drink while listening to them! Better yet, hie off to the Blues thread I created hehehe and talk it over there.

 

cheers!

Edited August 17, 2005 by bods1000

[telemaster_311]

thanks for your advice 16track! hmmmm lalo ako nalito at napaisip ah hahaha anyway thanks again bro