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#21 will robie

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Posted 06 March 2018 - 09:56 PM

Do you know that the SC can be bought? There's a firm that's notoriously good at delivering SC judges for favourable decisions. Perhaps she was rattling their source of extra income. I would fight tooth and nail too if someone threatened my livelihood.   

Because you said so? Good luck with proving it. Instead of debunking the evidence presented, you ask me if I know if the SC can be bought. Stick to the merits of the impeachment complaint. 



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Posted 07 March 2018 - 10:25 AM

There are merits to it?

Impeachment complaints are political in nature. Truth doesnt really factor into it. If they want you out, showing the truth will not sway their opinion or votes in any way.

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 11:49 AM

It being a political move is an opinion but the fact is she is not qualified to be CJ.

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 12:12 PM

Appointing Sereno as CJ is also a political move.



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Posted 07 March 2018 - 12:12 PM

If that's as much as fact as you say, how come it only gets to be contested after 5 years?

 

If she was factually unqualified from the start, then she wouldn't have been in that position in the first place.



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Posted 07 March 2018 - 06:15 PM

It's a move by the Duterte administration to consolidate power of the executive, legislative, and judiciary branches. Notice how government officials and cabinet members were removed from their positions from supposed anomalies or other reasons not backed up with evidence, only to be replaced by less competent people with questionable biases or affiliations. It's a witch hunt indeed, but it's also Duterte's payback. They're paving the way for a complete dictatorship.

In relation with the current Cha-cha proposal, SC Justices retirable age is at 70 y/o. But will be reduced to 65 y/o should Cha-cha and Federalism push through. However, under same Cha-cha proposal, retirable age of NEW or Digong appointed Justices will be at 75 y/o. :ninja:



#27 will robie

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 08:30 PM

The one who appointed her was an incompetent president. You could not possibly remove an impeachable official unless you impeached that official or subject that official to a quo warranto proceeding. Furthermore, the incompetent president had the numbers in Congress aside from the fact that the Solgen that time was that incompetent president's appointee. 


Edited by will robie, 07 March 2018 - 08:38 PM.

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 10:59 PM

what ive read so far some comments made by the defenders of sereno are double edged. can also be applied to her.

also loved the recent media reports made by the presstitutes about her. she looks like the reincarnation of mary lol.. so lp yellow tactics

Edited by persona5gpp, 07 March 2018 - 11:05 PM.


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Posted 07 March 2018 - 11:31 PM

The one who appointed her was an incompetent president. You could not possibly remove an impeachable official unless you impeached that official or subject that official to a quo warranto proceeding. Furthermore, the incompetent president had the numbers in Congress aside from the fact that the Solgen that time was that incompetent president's appointee.


I won’t even argue the competence of the previous president... however, those members of congress that you say he controlled at the time are the very same ones who are trying to impeach her now. If they thought something was amiss then, why did they not speak up earlier?

Just shows how flexible our politician’s integrity are when it comes to money, eh?

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Posted 08 March 2018 - 09:47 AM

It awfully sounds like Congress in here. hahaha 



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Posted 08 March 2018 - 12:47 PM

what ive read so far some comments made by the defenders of sereno are double edged. can also be applied to her.

also loved the recent media reports made by the presstitutes about her. she looks like the reincarnation of mary lol.. so lp yellow tactics

Speaking of "presstitutes": 

 

If you observe the news media coverage of Sereno: despite the fact that almost all her colleagues have already forced her to go on indefinite leave (a sign that she has lost support), a concurrent quo warranto challenge by the Sol-Gen, she is portrayed by the media as unfazed and confident, smiling and in seemingly high spirits. This is another yellow media propaganda to shore up Sereno's image in public's mind that she is strong and will survive the ouster moves against her.

 

Compare that with media coverage of CJ Corona, where he was almost always shown in news media reports frowning, scowling, and physically weak from stress, relying on wheel chair to move around. This was yellow media propaganda to condition the public that CJ Corona was already on the path to his downfall.


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Posted 08 March 2018 - 01:17 PM

"Control of the Supreme Court was crucial for the Aquino-Cojuangco clan and it reckoned that the unprecedented move of removing Corona would cow the high court into issuing a ruling reversing its unfavorable 2011 decision on the Hacienda Luisita case. That decision ordered only a P200 million compensation for that portion of Hacienda Luisita to be put under agrarian reform, a measly amount compared to the P5 billion that the clan was asking for." - Manila Times Jan 22, 2018

 

The Aquino-Cojuangco clan scored a double whammy when CJ Corona was ousted and was replaced with Sereno. What makes Sereno important was that she has a potential term extending 20-years from the time she was appointed up to the time she reaches the age of 70. The Cojuangco clan was looking at two decades of loyal support from the high court in the person of Sereno.


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Posted 08 March 2018 - 03:28 PM

I wont even argue the competence of the previous president... however, those members of congress that you say he controlled at the time are the very same ones who are trying to impeach her now. If they thought something was amiss then, why did they not speak up earlier?
Just shows how flexible our politicians integrity are when it comes to money, eh?

Read my post again as to why the congressmen didnt try to impeach her.

Edited by will robie, 08 March 2018 - 04:02 PM.


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Posted 08 March 2018 - 06:39 PM

Corona and Sereno impeachment in my opinion exposed the flaw in the in the appointment system of Chief Justice of Supreme Court. Impeachment system has become a political exercise to entrench a CJ loyal to the president. I find it ridiculous that the President who according to our constitution has co-equal power to supreme court is given the power to appoint the CJ. Syempre the president will appoint a CJ who is loyal to him since he might be sued for any blunders committed during his/ her term as President. This is the reason why supreme court is now losing its credibility. Why not let the supreme court justices choose among themselves? 



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Posted 09 March 2018 - 12:00 AM

If you observe the news media coverage of Sereno: despite the fact that almost all her colleagues have already forced her to go on indefinite leave (a sign that she has lost support), a concurrent quo warranto challenge by the Sol-Gen, she is portrayed by the media as unfazed and confident, smiling and in seemingly high spirits. This is another yellow media propaganda to shore up Sereno's image in public's mind that she is strong and will survive the ouster moves against her.

 

 

It does not have to be true. It just needs to look like that.


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Posted 09 March 2018 - 12:22 AM

Voting 38-2, the house justice committee deemed the impeachment complaint against Sereno to have probable cause. 

 

And now, the end is near and so I face the final curtain.  :lol:


Edited by will robie, 09 March 2018 - 12:25 AM.


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Posted 09 March 2018 - 12:32 AM

38-2 not bad

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 03:20 AM

Voting 38-2, the house justice committee deemed the impeachment complaint against Sereno to have probable cause. 
 
And now, the end is near and so I face the final curtain.  :lol:


And now the majority whip comes knocking on every representative's door in the House to whip the votes in the floor.

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 08:39 AM

And now the majority whip comes knocking on every representative's door in the House to whip the votes in the floor.

It is what it is.

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 06:04 PM

If CJ doesn't want more mud slung her way, she should just resign. She may say that she stands for something, but from the depth of what she is wallowing in right now, I doubt people believe in her. People can smell insincerity. 

 

She should resign and retain a few strands of her honor. In Japan, the honorable way to do it is to open your bowels up with a blade of your own choosing. 

 

Pity we are not Japanese :)






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