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Posted 15 July 2011 - 03:34 PM

We should keep quiet and preserve our dignity. If you are weak, crowing to the world how weak you are won't help you. I cannot take Inverbrass' noisy statements on how incompetent we would be in defending ourselves in case China is stupid enough to attack us at our present weak state. Pero di pa naguumpisa ang laban sigurado na syang talo sya. Kung kasama ng mga sundalo yang ganyang klase ng tao sa gyera, baka sya pa unang putukan.

Hahaha! I was basing my statements on our military assets and China's military assets. I'm being realistic unlike you who thinks that bravery is enough. If a potential war with China breaks out, do you actually think our soldiers would reach the Spratlys with Chinese hunter-killers roving around the Spratlys? If our boys will go by air, Chinese fighter jets will blow them out of the sky. Get real.

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 04:18 PM

Hahaha! I was basing my statements on our military assets and China's military assets. I'm being realistic unlike you who thinks that bravery is enough. If a potential war with China breaks out, do you actually think our soldiers would reach the Spratlys with Chinese hunter-killers roving around the Spratlys? If our boys will go by air, Chinese fighter jets will blow them out of the sky. Get real.

My fervent hope is that you're not in the military or if you are, none of your comrades know about what you're writing in this thread.

We all know about China's military strength. We know we can't match them one-on-one. We acknowledge that we should improve our capability. Whoever said bravery is enough? Nevertheless, there are those of us who still won't back down in face of China's bullying. Whining about it the way you do never helps. Anyway, when push comes to a shove, it's unlikely we can ever get any commitment from you. You may even use that as an excuse to ally with them.

Your statements remind me of the makapili's during the Japanese period. They have the same "realist" mindset as yours.

Edited by camiar, 15 July 2011 - 04:38 PM.


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Posted 15 July 2011 - 04:36 PM

My fervent hope is that you're not in the military and none of your comrades know about what you're writing in this thread.

We all know about China's military strength. We know we can't match them one-on-one. But there are those of us who still won't back down in face of China's bullying. When push comes to a shove, it's unlikely we can ever get any commitment from you. You may even use that as an excuse to ally with them.

Your statements remind me of the makapili's during the Japanese period. They have the same "realist" mindset as yours.

Is this your post in which I'm supposed to say ouch? Haha! Our soldiers won't even get to fire a shot coz Chinese subs are gonna sink the transport ships they'll be in. Same with our transport planes. Go ahead and live in your dreamworld where bravado is the only thing that matters. It's easy to talk tough behind a laptop/desktop. There's a big difference between your dreamworld and the real world.



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Posted 15 July 2011 - 04:52 PM

a. Yes


so what do we have to fight, since you say we have nothing to use against the chinese?



b. Wait for US Congress. I don't share your suggestion that we should be prepared to fight. Again, we just don't have what it takes to wage war against China.



so, are you saying that we allow the chinese to takeover the spratlys and we do nothing for the meantime?

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 05:06 PM

During the Korean War, a platoon of Filipinos attacked a Chinese regiment holding a strategic hill position. Our soldiers divided themselves into four squads, and made probing attacks on the Chinese defense lines. attacking, withdrawing and moving over to the next segment of the Chinese defense lines. They did this over and over every night for several days. As reports of the "waves" of attack reach the command post, the Chinese thought they were being attacked by a huge army. They withdraw soon afterwards and the Filipinos took over the hill.

Platoon vs. Regiment. That was bravado. And smart fighting. That piece of history would never have happened if inverbrass was there.

Edited by camiar, 15 July 2011 - 05:07 PM.


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Posted 15 July 2011 - 05:08 PM

what happens if china doesnt want to be diplomatic about it?



Eh di patay ang mga Pinoy na sundalo na nasa Spratlys.

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 05:53 PM

Platoon vs. Regiment. That was bravado. And smart fighting. That piece of history would never have happened if inverbrass was there.

Do you think our soldiers can duplicate this should we go to war with China over the Spratlys? Haha! Aside from living in a dreamworld, you're living in the past. Get real. Posted Image

By the way, would it have happened had you been there? Or would the platoon have been annihilated had you been there? Posted Image

so what do we have to fight, since you say we have nothing to use against the chinese?

so, are you saying that we allow the chinese to takeover the spratlys and we do nothing for the meantime?

I answered your question regarding the mutual defense treaty. If we get attacked by China and the US adheres to the treaty, we will fight side by side with the Americans.

Can we do anything if the Chinese annex our region of the Spratlys? Again, if we so decide to go to war with China over the Spratlys alone and not with the USA, the AFP is gonna get a decimation of epic proportions.

Edited by TheSmilingBandit, 16 July 2011 - 10:52 AM.


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Posted 15 July 2011 - 06:10 PM

Do you think our soldiers can duplicate this should we go to war with China over the Spratlys? Haha! Aside from living in a dreamworld, you're living in the past. Get real. Posted Image

You wouldn't even dream of our soldiers doing a feat like that. You belong to a generation of Filipinos who have lost faith in themselves.
Keep on it. Denigrate yourself in this thread. The more you insist on your self deprecating mindset, the more you lose respect.
I know you're hurting. It's OK. Say ouch...

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 06:16 PM

You wouldn't even dream of our soldiers doing a feat like that. You belong to a generation of Filipinos who have lost faith in themselves.
Keep on it. Denigrate yourself in this thread. The more you insist on your self deprecating mindset, the more you lose respect.
I know you're hurting. It's OK. Say ouch...

Of course, being delusional comes with living in a dreamworld. Keep it up sport. You're doing fine being delusional. Posted Image

Edited by inverbrass, 15 July 2011 - 06:20 PM.


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Posted 15 July 2011 - 06:38 PM

So what would you do when the shooting starts? Join the Chinese Navy? Or spy for them?

Edited by camiar, 15 July 2011 - 06:44 PM.


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Posted 15 July 2011 - 06:41 PM

So what would you do when the shooting starts? Join the Chinese Navy?

So what would you do when the shooting starts? Join the Chinese Navy? Or spy for them?

Your sarcasm is duly noted but nope I wouldn't join the Chinese navy nor spy for them. What would you do?

Edited by inverbrass, 15 July 2011 - 06:49 PM.


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Posted 15 July 2011 - 06:52 PM

Your sarcasm is duly noted by nope I wouldn't join the Chinese navy nor spy for them. What would you do?

I'd do whatever red blooded delusional Filipino living in a dreamworld would do.

But if I were you, I'd practice on grovelling while crawling on my knees trying to surrender so they would take pity and not k*ll me.

Edited by camiar, 15 July 2011 - 06:53 PM.


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Posted 15 July 2011 - 06:56 PM

When go to google and search for spratly and paracel island.. and then go to wikipedia.. you see that there was no mentioned of the philippines being part of the history of these island.. since ancient times they are part of vietnam and would you believe that have an ancient names for this islands? I believed we dont have the moral and historically basis to claim for it.. What I know and please correct me if I am wrong.. mayroon lng tayong dokumento na nilakad ni ex pres. marcos sa UN nun dekada 70's na nagsasabing parte ng mga isla n yun ay nasa teriteryo ng pinas. kaya ayaw ng mga intsik ng UN intervention kasi alam nila may hulog sila dun.. pero ano b ang pinas nun panahon ng late 60's to early 70's, we are a wealthly nation in southeast asia.. second only to japan.. china that time was in limbo and vietnam was still in civil war.. I dont think its fair.. the only reason why we are claiming this island is not to populate them but to exploit their oil potentials (which is up to now potential p rin).. ALL IN THY NAME OF THY MIGHTY US DOLLARS.. which shall give more money sa kaban bayan.. which means more corruption money.. to an already corrupt officials in our government.. just sharing a thought kabayan.. peace :rolleyes:

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 06:57 PM

During the Korean War, a platoon of Filipinos attacked a Chinese regiment holding a strategic hill position. Our soldiers divided themselves into four squads, and made probing attacks on the Chinese defense lines. attacking, withdrawing and moving over to the next segment of the Chinese defense lines. They did this over and over every night for several days. As reports of the "waves" of attack reach the command post, the Chinese thought they were being attacked by a huge army. They withdraw soon afterwards and the Filipinos took over the hill.

Platoon vs. Regiment. That was bravado. And smart fighting. That piece of history would never have happened if inverbrass was there.


Bro, a lot has change after the Korean war. China had the man power but lacks the technology and equipment during the 1950s. Most of their equipment (tanks, fighter jets, bombers, and artillery) were "donated" by Russia. Now, they have the man power, technology and equipment. They will surely bomb us back to the stone age.

We may get upper hand in infantry warfare but winning a war is about controlling land, sea, and air.

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 07:12 PM

Wala yan sa mga matatapang dito sa MTC, kahit hubat-hubod hahamunin ang tsekwa sa gera, basta lang nakatago sila sa computer nila.



hahaha.. I agree matatapang talaga tayong mga taga MTC. :wub: .. walang sinabi yan mga tsekwa sa palakihan ng kargada natin mga pinoy.. kaya ba nila yun 2pops in less than 30 mins.? :lol: :lol: .. hahaha.. joke.. :P

what do you think we should do if china doesnt want to be diplomatic with us?


as an honestly reply.. drop it.. kasi I believe sisirain lng ng pinas ang ganda ng mga isla n yan dahil sa kanilang oil potential.. I just pray that china will not exploit them.. mayaman naman sila eh..pwede nman silang bumili ng langis nila s ibang lugar.

Edited by TheSmilingBandit, 16 July 2011 - 11:02 AM.


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Posted 15 July 2011 - 08:00 PM

I'd do whatever red blooded delusional Filipino living in a dreamworld would do.

But if I were you, I'd practice on grovelling while crawling on my knees trying to surrender so they would take pity and not k*ll me.

And what is that thing you would do?




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Posted 15 July 2011 - 08:43 PM

Bro, a lot has change after the Korean war. China had the man power but lacks the technology and equipment during the 1950s. Most of their equipment (tanks, fighter jets, bombers, and artillery) were "donated" by Russia. Now, they have the man power, technology and equipment. They will surely bomb us back to the stone age.

We may get upper hand in infantry warfare but winning a war is about controlling land, sea, and air.


Please also don't forget that China has has the most important source of winning a war : Money.

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 09:33 PM

Please also don't forget that China has has the most important source of winning a war : Money.



tumpak kabayan!.. hahaha! :lol:

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 10:41 PM

We may get upper hand in infantry warfare but winning a war is about controlling land, sea, and air.

No argument here bro

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 10:57 PM

Winning the war? Why would you even plan on getting into it?

There are lots of ways we can deter China from using its military advantage to take over the Kalayaan Island. One way is to grovel submissively to the Chinese.




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