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Lets discuss the POSITIVE angles of why sex work, sex industry, sex workers are integral to society.

 

I will begin this thread with this video. Just maximize the volume on your player.

 

 

Listen... matters of the heart... this is on topic.

 

Feel free to submit your hypothesis and positive experiences.

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Hmmmm.... is this topic a trend now? I just saw Buwayaman discuss this over in twitter.

 

Here is something amusing I saw posted yet very apt.

 

"I would rather pay for sex then go to a bar trying to pick up a woman with lies and empty promises for free sex"

 

:D

 

I am not familiar with buwayaman over twitter. I was inspired to post this when I stumbled on that video above.

 

When you get a massage / spa therapist it's usually 1 hour, but the sex is usually short, so the rest of the time, there is a lot of talk.

 

The talk is therapeutic for many men, men who are lonely, men who need to be hugged, touched, kissed, or need sex because they can't get sex the way society expects them to get sex. There is also sex education, the newbie young man who just needs to know how to f*ck or learn female anatomy hands on.

 

Where I'm coming from is this... women reproduce with the top 20% of men... that is why the genetic stats show a global average norm that we are the descendants of 1 man impregnating 5 women. So what about those poor other men who are the bottom 80%? Instead of being frustrated, rape, or become violent, these men can avail of the services of sex workers.

 

Not saying the top 20% of men do not patronize sex workers... just saying the bottom 80% of men have a consolation prize they can afford... sex workers are affordable... much cheaper than wives or mistresses... the bottom 80% have a chance at some sanity... it keeps the peace.

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Monogamy, blue pill Filipino style goes like this:

 

Husband is expected to be monogamous.

But monogamy is monotony.

So some Filipino husbands are guilt free when in the yearning for some different pussies, they patronize sex workers, with a proper capped budget, he is happy, wife is happy. Monogamy is achieved.

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Hmmmm.... is this topic a trend now? I just saw Buwayaman discuss this over in twitter.

 

Here is something amusing I saw posted yet very apt.

 

"I would rather pay for sex then go to a bar trying to pick up a woman with lies and empty promises for free sex"

 

:D

I agree with that.

 

From a moral standpoint, lies are just repugnant in general. Though there are exceptions, most lies are used as a means of deceit.

 

Also, emotional damage is some of the worse damage a person can experience. A bad experience in relationships ruins future relationships.

 

Even when you're just trying to have casual relationships, you're investing time and money for that coochie. If that's fun for you, go ahead, but thinking its better than paying for sexual relations is like saying self service restaurants are better than ones with waiters and service charge.

 

My main argument departs from the thesis "Sex work is integral" a bit, since mine is "sex work is more acceptable than moral obliquity in human relations (via lies and deceit)"

 

P.S. I haven't watched the video, yet

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Economic opportunities...

 

... most sex work business is organized ORGANICALLY.

 

... everyone involved are like worker ants building the business, they "know" their roles.

 

... I even know a legit spa owner who was not able to visit her spa for a month due to family duties, when she came back, the therapists she had trained had organized the legit spa to a spakol!

 

... In the Philippines, we have no established student loan program, sex work becomes that program for some college students

 

... In the Philippines, we have no viable socialist welfare program to save single mothers from their bad decisions / bad choices, sex work offers them an income when these MILFs have no other profitable skills.

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RELEASE: A desperate man who badly wants s*x needs a release, else there is a high probability that a crime of rape will be committed. I supposed that going to a prostitute and pay for s*x is the better option.

 

CONTROL: Men pay for women since we can choose whatever and whoever we want (on the line-up). We go to prostitutes so we can do our sexual fantasies with them, that most women would not agree to do.

 

BASIC INSTINCT: Men buy s*x because we like it. People are willing to pay for things or activities that they enjoy, and I supposed that the same principle also applies to s*x.

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I agree with that.

From a moral standpoint, lies are just repugnant in general. Though there are exceptions, most lies are used as a means of deceit.

Also, emotional damage is some of the worse damage a person can experience. A bad experience in relationships ruins future relationships.

Even when you're just trying to have casual relationships, you're investing time and money for that coochie. If that's fun for you, go ahead, but thinking its better than paying for sexual relations is like saying self service restaurants are better than ones with waiters and service charge.

My main argument departs from the thesis "Sex work is integral" a bit, since mine is "sex work is more acceptable than moral obliquity in human relations (via lies and deceit)"

P.S. I haven't watched the video, yet

that was a nice analogy sir. Also, I'd like to add that there are men who patronize sex workers to save themselves the time one could waste when engaging in casual sex. So to those who says that casual relationship is the same or better than hiring a sex worker, please stop. You don't know what you are saying. Like he said, if you like it and you have the time to spare, then by all means.
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Without our lovely sex workers I would probably be dead now no pun intended

 

I believe... I do not have the studies to back this up... but hey, I believe a lot of lovely sex workers have pulled men out of DEPRESSIONS they have been in... na busted ng girlfriend, nag hiwalay ng asawa, namatayan ng loved ones... sex therapy, or a shoulder to cry on... yung mga sex workers na makakapag sabi nyan.

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When you think about it, a guy who spends 5000 pesos on sex probably does more good to society than a guy who spends 5000 on shoes he doesnt need. Yung 5000 na binigay nya, a huge portion of it goes for the bills of the escort. Whereas yung 5000 mo sa sapatos, foreign company at wealthy local businessmen lang kumita.

 

I can understand the argument that it has pulled a lot of people out of depression. It's inevitablr that there will be days and nights which are simply unbearably depressing and you just need to get past it until things become better.

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When you think about it, a guy who spends 5000 pesos on sex probably does more good to society than a guy who spends 5000 on shoes he doesnt need. Yung 5000 na binigay nya, a huge portion of it goes for the bills of the escort. Whereas yung 5000 mo sa sapatos, foreign company at wealthy local businessmen lang kumita.

 

I can understand the argument that it has pulled a lot of people out of depression. It's inevitablr that there will be days and nights which are simply unbearably depressing and you just need to get past it until things become better.

 

I understand the feeling of wanting to escape pain, suffering, and responsibility even if it's just for an hour or two.

 

I also believe it's more progressive to allow people to conduct sex work in a lawful, respectable, and socially acceptable manner.

 

Sex work is difficult work. The argument that people selling their bodies is moot, as everyone who exchanges labor for money (and that is literally every human being) is doing the same thing.

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Monogamy, blue pill Filipino style goes like this:

 

Husband is expected to be monogamous.

But monogamy is monotony.

So some Filipino husbands are guilt free when in the yearning for some different pussies, they patronize sex workers, with a proper capped budget, he is happy, wife is happy. Monogamy is achieved.

But that's still cheating. A full monogamous relationship means you stick with one partner to the end.
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I understand the feeling of wanting to escape pain, suffering, and responsibility even if it's just for an hour or two.

 

I also believe it's more progressive to allow people to conduct sex work in a lawful, respectable, and socially acceptable manner.

 

Sex work is difficult work. The argument that people selling their bodies is moot, as everyone who exchanges labor for money (and that is literally every human being) is doing the same thing.

 

Yes. And the nature of the profession is a very very constructive one actually. Worker gets her much needed finances and maybe sometimes pleasure too. And client gets his release and gets to help someone in need as well. As long as the workers are not coerced / kidnapped and forced to do it and as long as they are not minors then it should be fine. Also helps that if it is legalized, the state would be able to impose sanitary and health requirements that would not just prevent disease but set higher standards actually.

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But that's still cheating. A full monogamous relationship means you stick with one partner to the end.

 

Are you a teenager to be so naive that "full monogamy" really exists?

 

Genetic statistics show the global population as the result of 1 man impregnating 5 women... "full monogamy" is an idealistic fantasy brought about by some religions... reality is a totally different matter.

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Redpill Bomb:

 

It is vital.

 

For the very reason of our reptilian brains.

 

Ego, id, superego. All that s@%t. Tama si freud. Everything is sexual. Everything is alo political, Thomas Mann. Then sexual=political.

 

Although it is immaterial kung anong side itatake mo sa issue na ito kasi ang tao ay tao lang. kung gusto gawin, gagawin.

Kung pinilit ang sarili, masisiraan ng bait. Masiraan ng bait= less alaga sa trabaho at pmilya, magsisimula ng gulo sa buhay, magiging pabaya etc.

 

Ang lalaki di dinesign ng mundo para maging monogamous. Kung relihyoso ka, then maniniwala ka sa kabaliktaran nito.

Ang babae rin di dinesign na maging monogamous. Hypergamous sila. Mahirap intindihin pero meron talagang naniniwala na monogamous dapat ang lahat ng magasawa kunyari. Gusto ko rin sana mangyari yun, buong-puso kong gusto yun.

 

SUBALIT

 

HINDI GANYAN ANG MUNDO EH.

 

Okay lang kung may negative view ang tao sa sexwork. Ang di nila nakikita ay ito ang paraan pano maregulate ang inner animal ng mga tao. Lalaki man o babae. Women like sex too. Dont forget. Never forget. And like men, gagawa sila ng paraan to get it. Kahit na kasal kayo. Loyalty only exists between men (in my convinced opinion).

 

Pansinin mo rin kung kumausap ka ng mga theras. Bakit nilang ayaw lisanin ang trabahong yan kung sa tingin nila immoral yan?

 

It is not irresponsible to want sex. Its human, kahit saan man yung source of the sex. Kahit na anong rationalization gusto mo gawin sa sarili mo. Kusang katawan mo na ang magpapahiwatig na gusto nito ng laman. Uuwi ka sa bahay para tumikim ng putahe, pero magsasawa ka rin kung adobo ulam mo araw araw.

 

What is responsible is that you protect your health, finances, and sanity. Mas lalo na kung may pamilya ka. Kayo na bahala doon.

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Redpill Bomb:

 

It is vital.

 

For the very reason of our reptilian brains.

 

Ego, id, superego. All that s@%t. Tama si freud. Everything is sexual. Everything is alo political, Thomas Mann. Then sexual=political.

 

Although it is immaterial kung anong side itatake mo sa issue na ito kasi ang tao ay tao lang. kung gusto gawin, gagawin.

Kung pinilit ang sarili, masisiraan ng bait. Masiraan ng bait= less alaga sa trabaho at pmilya, magsisimula ng gulo sa buhay, magiging pabaya etc.

 

Ang lalaki di dinesign ng mundo para maging monogamous. Kung relihyoso ka, then maniniwala ka sa kabaliktaran nito.

Ang babae rin di dinesign na maging monogamous. Hypergamous sila. Mahirap intindihin pero meron talagang naniniwala na monogamous dapat ang lahat ng magasawa kunyari. Gusto ko rin sana mangyari yun, buong-puso kong gusto yun.

 

SUBALIT

 

HINDI GANYAN ANG MUNDO EH.

 

Okay lang kung may negative view ang tao sa sexwork. Ang di nila nakikita ay ito ang paraan pano maregulate ang inner animal ng mga tao. Lalaki man o babae. Women like sex too. Dont forget. Never forget. And like men, gagawa sila ng paraan to get it. Kahit na kasal kayo. Loyalty only exists between men (in my convinced opinion).

 

Pansinin mo rin kung kumausap ka ng mga theras. Bakit nilang ayaw lisanin ang trabahong yan kung sa tingin nila immoral yan?

 

It is not irresponsible to want sex. Its human, kahit saan man yung source of the sex. Kahit na anong rationalization gusto mo gawin sa sarili mo. Kusang katawan mo na ang magpapahiwatig na gusto nito ng laman. Uuwi ka sa bahay para tumikim ng putahe, pero magsasawa ka rin kung adobo ulam mo araw araw.

 

What is responsible is that you protect your health, finances, and sanity. Mas lalo na kung may pamilya ka. Kayo na bahala doon.

 

Well put together... and spoken from deep experience.

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Are you a teenager to be so naive that "full monogamy" really exists?

 

Genetic statistics show the global population as the result of 1 man impregnating 5 women... "full monogamy" is an idealistic fantasy brought about by some religions... reality is a totally different matter.

Maybe I should've elaborated more on my original reply...

 

I'm not a teenager. And I'm a polyamorous person so you and I probably have very different views on what can be called as cheating on your partner.

 

I'm not a saint. I've cheated on a recent ex twice by not telling her that I'm getting a psp/walker for a breath of fresh air. But since I value my honesty, I did eventually confess up and the following times after I properly told her that I'm going to have sex with a different girl.

 

See, my view of cheating on a partner can also go to as simple having sex behind their backs. Why? Because they don't have knowledge or consent of what you're about to do.

 

Anyways, I'm going kinda to off topic on this but if you want to talk more about it I wouldn't mind exchanging some PMs about it.

 

 

On an on topic note, it's not just that we men need this boost from sex workers, it's also part that a bulk of these girls working in spas, MPs or as PSPs turn to sex work as a faster way to get cash either because they don't want to regular jobs or they don't have skills/can't find jobs that need their simple skills. Sex work gives them a risky but fast way of earning money (tho there are also a lot of PSPs who struggle because they don't have a constant stream of clients).

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Ang masasabi ko talaga, for us it's a band aid remedy. Think of painkillers or anti histamines. It will help you get through some terrible nights but it doesn't solve any of the underlying issues. If you're lonely or you are having problems sa work or sa personal life, take small steps in resolving them pa rin. I think I was depressed for more or less 5 years and if only I could meet all the people who helped me during those 5 years right now, I'd gladly give them a small token as an appreciation, lalo na yung mga hindi mabilang sakin dati kasi I didnt have much back then.

 

Parang yung Inception na movie yan, you always have to remember that it's not real and it's just a dream. At some point, sure yan your vision will be blurred and you'll wonder if you're genuinely friends. Tapos you'll fall in love and keep on coming back at the expense of your family, finance, time and health. It's the best way to put it, a dream. At any time, you have in your company a girl of your dreams who you dont even have to court, be rejected or have problems with. It's as if you can do no wrong.

 

At any time when you feel you're crossing the line, always remind yourself, okay you have already given her 20k in tips and you feel like you're friends. Pag nangalinagan ka one day ng 2k, will she even lend you 2k? I can tell you straight up that most wont. If ever friends kayo, usually secondary lang ang friendship, client ka pa rin first and foremost.

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Fck all those k*ll joy who plan to shut down spa's instead of focusing on other issues of the government . Or atleast providing a better paying job than close out spas fck them all

 

Better get the number of your theras and work your way into helping them some theras I know are leaving the industry and just settling on being PSP or what not

 

Darn all those who want to k*ll sex work they won't be able to help the theras anyway

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