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Ei! A thread for the Utah Jazz.. About time.. :cool:

 

I like the way they are playing as of now.. If Boozer stays healthy.. even without AK47.. I think the Jazz would be okay.. IMHO, Okur and Boozer are the real heart and soul of the Jazz.. Kirilenko provides the hustle and will surely be missed.. But they still have Matt Harpring.. And don't forget Deron Williams.. who seems to be having a great sophomore season..

 

CJ Miles, and Millsap are a surprise.. And I am surely excited with Ronnie Brewer.. I have seen some of his highlights and I am telling you, I think he is arguably the best athlete in this year's draft.. I just hope he receives some more playing time..

 

BTW, Welcome to the sports thread, F.F!!!

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Ei! A thread for the Utah Jazz.. About time.. :cool:

 

I like the way they are playing as of now.. If Boozer stays healthy.. even without AK47.. I think the Jazz would be okay.. IMHO, Okur and Boozer are the real heart and soul of the Jazz.. Kirilenko provides the hustle and will surely be missed.. But they still have Matt Harpring.. And don't forget Deron Williams.. who seems to be having a great sophomore season..

 

CJ Miles, and Millsap are a surprise.. And I am surely excited with Ronnie Brewer.. I have seen some of his highlights and I am telling you, I think he is arguably the best athlete in this year's draft.. I just hope he receives some more playing time..

 

BTW, Welcome to the sports thread, F.F!!!

 

hello boss revi ! thanks for welcoming me and the thread.

 

sayang nga as the first jazz game on solar BTV will be 30 november pa.at this stage i have to content myself with watching the espn highlights on my pc as well as the nba highlights on tv.

 

may highlights ka ni ronnie brewer ? interesting. a lot of experts picked him to be a draft darkhorse. anyway ... he adds on a something which the jazz have had little of ... explosivenesss and athleticism . imagine two years down the road ... d-will and brewer might rank among the league's best backcourt combos.

 

millsap looks like a true hustle player. might be too early too tell though . once the surprise wears off rest of the league's players wise up he might find it harder to get to the ball.

 

anyway ... having the best record ( jazz at 7-1 ) in the league is something to really savor and enjoy ...

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i've been a jazz fan since the 90s when the stockton-malone-hornacek trio were the essence of the team. and i'm just so happy that their tops in the nba right now. my heart sank when ak47 got injured (again), but like you guys, i'm confident that okur and boozer will lead this team. williams, too, has better stats. he probably has something to prove: that he's better than chris paul. he was of course, drafted ahead of the hornets star.

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i've been a jazz fan since the 90s when the stockton-malone-hornacek trio were the essence of the team. and i'm just so happy that their tops in the nba right now. my heart sank when ak47 got injured (again), but like you guys, i'm confident that okur and boozer will lead this team. williams, too, has better stats. he probably has something to prove: that he's better than chris paul. he was of course, drafted ahead of the hornets star.

 

hey spongebobby ! nice to have another jazz fan onboard! yup ... my love affair with the jazz also started when the jazz met the bulls for those two straight years. re ak47's ankle ... the team is deeper and more confident now and can weather even the temporary loss of the andrei. millsap did a wonderful job ( 4 blocks and two steals ) in the clips game. IMHO ...even sloan has changed a bit ... starting a rookie ( ron brewer ) in a game . re the cp and deron comparisons ... check out the thread below for a stats comparison ( current season only ) between the two.

 

http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?topic=586172

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Under Jerry Sloan, one can't help but appreciate how the Jazz has always played quality basketball, win or lose. Sloan is a classic preacher of practice hard, play hard. Basic basket basketball at its best.

 

It's very good that the Jazz organization did not give up on Jerry Sloan even after the Stocktone-Malone days.

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yeah. i think the jazz are better now. i still wonder, though what would've happened had the gotten danny manning in his prime. i know they could've beaten the bulls. another big what if is ron seikaly. he was traded to (or offered by?) the jazz, but he did not report. instead, he stuck with some bad teams and retired prematurely.

 

anyway, while i'm happy (ecstatic actually) that the jazz are 7-1 right now, i'll temper my expectations. i can still remember how my hopes crashed in 2004 when they started 6-1. so far, though. they're looking good. very very good.

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By far the Utah Jazz are the biggest surprise of the season...

You got Okur.. Kirilenko... Boozer... Harpring... so I figured they'd be competitive but not this good..

Especially when AK47 went down... I didn't expect them to win against the Clippers

And win they not only did... but in a very convincing fashion as well!

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By far the Utah Jazz are the biggest surprise of the season...

You got Okur.. Kirilenko... Boozer... Harpring... so I figured they'd be competitive but not this good..

Especially when AK47 went down... I didn't expect them to win against the Clippers

And win they not only did... but in a very convincing fashion as well!

 

they got the mighty "MO" as in momentum on their side. and with three games in the next four days ( seattle , phoenix and toronto ) , we'll see just exactly how good these guys are.

 

to see the team's upcoming sked ... click the link below:

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/teams/schedule?team=uth

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for more on the emergence of deron williams and his comparison to chris paul ... check out this quote from todays SI website:

 

" No team has started better than the Jazz. While a healthy Carlos Boozer and, for a time, Andrei Kirilenko, have played their parts in the Jazz's 7-1 beginning, perhaps no one has made a bigger impact than second-year point guard Deron Williams. We asked an opposing team's scout for his analysis of Williams' growth and potential.

 

"Everybody talks about Chris Paul, but I don't know that I wouldn't want Deron Williams as my future starting point guard over Paul," the scout says. "He gives you more things defensively and his body is going to enable you to do more things offensively. He brings it on both ends.

 

"I'd be OK with him defending almost any starting point guard in the league. Imagine a Chauncey Billups with athleticism, and that's really what he is. He's a power point guard. This year he's slimmed down a little bit, he's quicker. And with an entire year under Jerry Sloan's system, he knows all the intricacies of the offense now."

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exquisite card ba yan? cno ung triple logoman? @ revi

 

Yup.. My avatar is an Exquisite 05-06 triple logoman of MJ, Bird and Magic.. 1 of 1.. Got the picture from e-bay.. --- try visiting the NBA rookie cards thread in the Hobbies section here at MTC..

 

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Going back to the Utah Jazz.. specifically, Deron Williams.. I agree that he is as strong as Billups, but unlike Billups, he won't be shipped from team to team early in his career.. And I think that could just make wonders for his development and confidence.. Comparing him to Chris Paul right now is a testament to his great jump from a so-so rookie year to a (as of now) phenomenal sophomore season.. BTW, Chris Paul is doing great as well in New Orleans but this was expected..

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yo ma man revi ! while i'm reeling from a surfeit of unexpected victories from the jazz ... how about a japanese dinner bet ... the jazz against the spurs in their first meeting of the season on 30 november ( manila time ) ? loser treats winner. deal ... or no deal ? :D

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yo ma man revi ! while i'm reeling from a surfeit of unexpected victories from the jazz ... how about a japanese dinner bet ... the jazz against the spurs in their first meeting of the season on 30 november ( manila time ) ? loser treats winner. deal ... or no deal ? :D

 

Utah has had San Antonio's number ever since Boozer and Okur came.. For the past seasons, it has been a surprise for me seeing my Spurs succumb to your Jazz time and time again.. TD seems to lose focus that he has to defend Okur even behind the arc.. :lol: Guess, ako ang dehado pare.. :lol:

 

Therefore, a japanese dinner might be too much.. :lol: Kuripot no? :lol: Coffee bet na lang.. Then off we go somewhere for a nightcap? Yknow? wink-wink!!! :lol:

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Utah has had San Antonio's number ever since Boozer and Okur came.. For the past seasons, it has been a surprise for me seeing my Spurs succumb to your Jazz time and time again.. TD seems to lose focus that he has to defend Okur even behind the arc.. :lol: Guess, ako ang dehado pare.. :lol:

 

Therefore, a japanese dinner might be too much.. :lol: Kuripot no? :lol: Coffee bet na lang.. Then off we go somewhere for a nightcap? Yknow? wink-wink!!! :lol:

 

bos revi ... you're on !

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UTAH rips SEATTLE ... goes 8-1 !

 

SEATTLE (AP) -- Deron Williams continued his streak of outstanding all-around play with 27 points, reserve Matt Harpring added 21, and the Utah Jazz improved to 8-1 with a 118-109 victory over the Seattle SuperSonics on Friday night.

 

The 8-1 start for Utah -- best in the NBA -- is the second-best in franchise history, trailing only a 9-1 start to the 1999 season. Utah gets a chance to match that on Saturday night, hosting Phoenix.

 

It's unclear if Andrei Kirilenko will play in that game. The talented Russian forward stayed in Salt Lake City, missing his second straight game with a sprained right ankle.

 

Utah didn't need him against the Sonics. Not with Williams scoring at least 20 points for the third time in Utah's last four games and six Jazz players scoring in double figures.

 

Mehmet Okur scored 15 points with 11 rebounds and Carlos Boozer had 14 and 13. Rookies Ronnie Brewer and Paul Millsap both finished with 11 points.

 

Williams scored 23 in the second half and combined with Derek Fisher to hand out 14 of Utah's 27 assists. Williams also kept Seattle's Luke Ridnour in check, leaving the Sonics' scoring load to Allen and Rashard Lewis.

 

Allen finished with 32 -- his fourth game already with 30 or more points -- and Lewis added 24. But a third and fourth scorer failed to emerge for the Sonics (4-6), who have lost two straight at home after a three-game win streak.

 

Ridnour finished with 15 points, most coming late. Ridnour had scored 19, 32 and 20 points, respectively, in his last three games.

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Wow, Deron is indeed for real!

 

Good news for the Jazz. Now they can smile again at the PG position.

 

The key for this team is to avoid injuries (yes, I'm talking about Boozer, Kirilenko and Harpring)... but that's stating the obvious.

 

Jazz 120 Phoenix 117

 

si senhor clubber ... d-will is for real. leads the jazz from 16 pts down in the 4th quarter to beat the suns in OT with 25 points and 14 assists. boozer and okur combine for 40 points and 21 rebounds. paul millsap is a genuine stud in the making with 10 boards ( six offensive ) and 18 points on 5-6 fg and 8-10 ft.

 

go jazz !

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Jazz 120 Phoenix 117

 

si senhor clubber ... d-will is for real. leads the jazz from 16 pts down in the 4th quarter to beat the suns in OT with 25 points and 14 assists. boozer and okur combine for 40 points and 21 rebounds. paul millsap is a genuine stud in the making with 10 boards ( six offensive ) and 18 points on 5-6 fg and 8-10 ft.

 

go jazz !

 

yup, was monitoring the game via the web. i actually thought that the jazz would lose as time was running out. good thing okur made some free throws. :) yes, the jazz are for real. sloan just has so many weapons.

 

on another note, milsap seems to be even better than brewer...

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indeed injuries may derail the jazz again this season. we're keeping our fingers crossed that dwill , boozer and okur stay healhty through to the playoffs.

 

the significant difference from last year is that the the jazz may have found the depth to weather injuries. last year , jazz were 11-21 in games ak47 was out. this season jazz are 3-0 with kirilenko on the sidelines.

 

the bench is really doing an excellent job with harpring , fisher and millsap anchoring the reserves.

 

that guy millsap is a genuine stud. along with brewer , the jazz may have gotten the most value out of their two picks this year.

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the significant difference from last year is that the the jazz may have found the depth to weather injuries. last year , jazz were 11-21 in games ak47 was out. this season jazz are 3-0 with kirilenko on the sidelines.

 

that guy millsap is a genuine stud. along with brewer , the jazz may have gotten the most value out of their two picks this year.

 

... You are definitely correct F.F.. The difference is the emergence of a bench and the surprising play of Deron Williams.. Williams was not too good last year but this year he is just phenomenal.. Adding Brewer and Millsap was just heavenly for the Jazz.. Let us see if this would all carry over up to the playoffs..

 

OT: Good thing I invested on some Ronnie Brewer cards.. Better get me some Millsaps right now.. :cool:

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... You are definitely correct F.F.. The difference is the emergence of a bench and the surprising play of Deron Williams.. Williams was not too good last year but this year he is just phenomenal.. Adding Brewer and Millsap was just heavenly for the Jazz.. Let us see if this would all carry over up to the playoffs..

 

OT: Good thing I invested on some Ronnie Brewer cards.. Better get me some Millsaps right now.. :cool:

 

ya do dat bos revi ... millsap may be the nba's next boozer or rodman ( power forwards drafted in the 2nd round ). :cool:

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for emerging paul millsap fans ... here's a backgrounder from nba. draftexpress ....

 

Name:Paul Millsap

Height:6' 7"

Weight:258 pounds

Previous Team: Louisiana Tech , Junior

Drafted: #47 in 2006 Draft by Jazz

NBA Position:PF

Date of Birth:2/12/1985 (21 Years Old)

High School:Grambling H.S.

Hometown:Grambling, La

Earliest Draft Class:2005

Current Position:PF/C

Possible Positions:PF/C

Best Case Scenario:Udonis Haslem

Worst Case Scenario:Reggie Evans

Profile Written By:Jonathan Givony

Last Updated:2/16/2006

 

Strengths:

Bruising big man who is on track to led the NCAA in rebounding for a record third time consecutively.

 

Millsap has an NBA body minus an inch or two, an excellent frame and some of the longest arms in the NCAA relative to his height. He has decent quickness, good leaping ability and excellent strength; especially in the lower body. He’s also highly coordinated and possesses a very wide base and low center of gravity which allows him to control his body with ease.

 

Millsap’s biggest virtue as far as the NBA is concerned is easily his rebounding ability. He has suction cups for hands and is aided greatly by his outstanding motor and terrific reach. Like all great rebounders, he not only has excellent technique boxing out and the physical gifts needed to make his presence felt on the glass, but also combines that with outstanding anticipation skills to help him predict where a missed shot will end up and get there before his opponent is able to react. Millsap will clean up any missed shot in his area with ease, but will also go well out of his area to come up with rebounds. He is extremely active and absolutely relentless when he sets his eyes on the target. Seeing him coming up with a rebound after his 2nd or 3rd bounce after a tip or the ensuing scramble is something you get used to quickly when watching him play. He just refuses to give up on any play.

 

Offensively, Millsap is able to do a lot of damage at the mid-major level thanks to his bulk, athleticism, tenacious attitude and the way he runs the floor. He wanted to be the man in college (the reason he plays for Louisiana Tech) and that is exactly what he is, to the tune of over 20 points a game. He relishes contact and will finish in the toughest of situations even when being fiercely contested. Defenders at the mid-major level just seem to bounce off of him, and it’s not even clear that Millsap notices them.

 

He uses his body extremely well to establish position deep inside the paint and then seal off his man. Once he has him pinned he will extend and outstretch one of his super long arms to make tough catches and then finish strong at the basket. He watches the trajectory of the ball much like a wide receiver would in football, anticipating the lob, following it with his eyes and adjusting accordingly, corralling it with his extremely soft hands and then finishing with aggression.

 

Millsap has a fairly soft touch around the basket and knows how to use the glass, even though he clearly prefers to make a statement by throwing down powerful dunks. He can finish with the jump-hook or baby hook shot in and around the paint area, and shoots a very high percentage from the field at 57%.

 

That is mostly the extent of his offensive game at this point except for some basic spin-moves and a nice baseline jump-shot he will show on occasion, but not nearly enough. He gets his points quietly, within the flow of the offense and doesn’t show anything close to a superstar attitude when he’s not getting enough touches.

 

Defensively, Millsap blocks a decent amount of shots thanks to his wingspan and leaping ability, but not quite enough (2.2 a game) to make us think that this will completely translate over to the NBA considering his height.

 

Don’t expect anything flashy out of him, he’s a lunch pail type who will get the job done and go home without making much noise.

 

Weaknesses:

Measurements will be key. Millsap is listed at 6-8, but it’s always hard to tell exactly with players of his size and bulk just by eyeballing them. Anything less than 6-8 (despite his tremendous wingspan) could cause his stock to drop.

 

Millsap has one position and one position only at the NBA level: power forward. He is too wide and not skilled or athletic enough to consider making him a 3, and is a couple of inches too short to keep him at the center position which he currently occupies.

 

He’s clearly uncomfortable operating outside of 12 feet, possessing very basic ball-handling skills and not enough range on his jump shot, at least not on a consistent basis.

 

Millsap hasn’t really been challenged to improve his offensive skill level in college because of the competition he’s gone up against. He can bully his man in the paint and get 2 points almost whenever he pleases, so there is no reason for him or his coach to make things more difficult on him. His footwork is therefore not nearly as polished as many recent undersized, but highly talented big men we recall coming out of college such as Sean May or Ike Diogu, and therefore questions will linger about how much of his offense will translate over to the NBA game. He is athletic, but not an explosive freak, so there aren't many outs there either. Millsap has worked hard to expand his range and has even hit a couple of 3-pointers this year (4-12 in 25 games at the time of this report), but still has plenty of work ahead of him in this area to expand his expand his offensive game.

 

On the other end of the floor, Millsap definitely is not an amazing man to man defender. His lateral quickness is just decent guarding big men on the perimeter, and he has a tendency to take possessions off as many players in his situation in college are forced to do because of the way their team relies on them on the other end of the floor. When he is playing with full intensity on this end he has a tendency to pick up cheap fouls, which is a clear recipe for disaster for Louisiana Tech if he has to sit out more than 5 minutes at a time. Like many good shot-blockers, Millsap has issues at times with trying to block every shot that comes his way and therefore being vulnerable to pump-fakes, head fakes and exposing his team on the glass once he bites.

 

He’s isn’t a very good free throw shooter, and has not improved on this part of his game in his three years in college. He shot 64% as a freshman, 60% as a sophomore, and 61.3% as a junior at the time of this report

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