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#1 FleurDeLune

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Posted 19 January 2019 - 03:27 PM

May bago pa ba? Kung meron man, anu-ano ang mga yun?

Halina, mag talakayan tayo dito (ng matino at mahinahon).

 

 

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#2 will robie

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Posted 19 January 2019 - 03:40 PM

FDL,

 

Just a suggestion. I think the "Philippine Senate Election" thread and this thread should be merged.



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Posted 19 January 2019 - 05:26 PM

^ This coming election is not only for national but local. Did you get the gist? So just give your opinion about what's going on nowadays. 

 
Or better yet, give an update about the violence that had been happening nowadays (election related).
 
Start from Mindanao, then Visayas and Luzon.


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Posted 21 January 2019 - 09:13 AM

Choosing good local officials in MIndanao na sakop ng BOL is crucial for me assuming na mananalo ito sa plebesito.



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Posted 21 January 2019 - 02:57 PM

My take on this:
-There are three factions that are running (2 have been at it for the past 3 decades or more and the 3rd came out because of Du30)

- personally I will try to steer away from the first two since they have been in office for but nothing was changed. In fact the big problems were hidden from public.

-the 3rd faction I fear might become like the first 2 though because power is still addictive.

So what will I do? Still vote for the 3rd. I will take my chance with something new instead of voting the same people and expect new things.

Putting fears in people who have no fear is an improvement for me. Whip instead of carrot for now. Time to face the reality that the OK past was created to hide the rotten truth.

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Posted 21 January 2019 - 09:14 PM

i will take my chances to vote new faces sa national

 

yung local cguro iblanko ko na lng wala tlagang mapili.



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Posted 21 January 2019 - 10:00 PM

 

^ This coming election is not only for national but local. Did you get the gist? So just give your opinion about what's going on nowadays. 

 
Or better yet, give an update about the violence that had been happening nowadays (election related).
 
Start from Mindanao, then Visayas and Luzon.

 

Yes, I get the gist. My opinion is that Smartmatic should be junked. 



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Posted 22 January 2019 - 12:01 PM

Sa electronic election, my opinion, the supplier might not be perfect, but the direction of electronic election should still be there.

The integrity and fail safe feature it provides is far better than manual counting.

Will there be errors? Yes! 1 for every 100,000 is a posibility. Buy compare that to manual method where in a simple power outage can change the discrepancy to 1,000+/-.

Teachers and facilitator's safety. What else can the bad people do if the count was already sent live to 3 servers?

If that fails, then send in the SD card with hash protection.

If it still fails? Manual count. But that is a last resort and if the variance between candidates are less than 5,000.

Candidate who hate election modernization only hate them because it is difficult to tamper. So they discredit it at the beginning.
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#9 rooster69ph

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 12:28 PM

Would you vote for Atty.Gadon as a senator?.. Why?.. :)

Ako.. Hindi ko iboboto yan. Sobrang sipsip at higop sa administrasyon. Nakakairita.

Isama mo na si imee at chong...iisa ang bituka ng mga yan

Edited by rooster69ph, 23 January 2019 - 12:30 PM.


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Posted 23 January 2019 - 12:53 PM

Would you vote for Atty.Gadon as a senator?.. Why?.. :)

Ako.. Hindi ko iboboto yan. Sobrang sipsip at higop sa administrasyon. Nakakairita.

 

Nope and I'm not worried that he will win anyways,



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Posted 23 January 2019 - 04:24 PM

 
Nope and I'm not worried that he will win anyways,


Buti naman...ayon nga kay Gadon mismo ayaw na ng botante sa BOBO

Mga BOBOTANTE na lang ang may gusto at boboto sa mga BOBO

#12 camiar

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 06:13 PM

Isko Moreno has better vision of the future of Manila than the two old goats Erap and Alfredo Lim.


Edited by camiar, 23 January 2019 - 06:15 PM.


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Posted 23 January 2019 - 06:42 PM

I also agree with Isko Moreno being a better suited mayor in Manila.


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#14 skycentral68

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 09:22 PM

wala na pagbabago yan unless magkaron ng electoral reform. sana meron independent body that will make an honest to goodness evaluation of a candidate before the prospective candidate will file for a govt position. once qualified then the independent body will circulate the qualifications, achievements, and platform of the candidate. this way, malalaman ng voting public kung na yung candidate e ndi involved or implicated in a corruption issue in the past, ndi member ng isa or numerous political family, has a sound and feasible platform of what he or she can do in the govt position for the interest of many, etc. at present, i would say na mas intelligent na ang voting public pero marami pa rin na ndi totally knowledgeable about sa candidate kaya na nagre rely na lang kung sinu ang pinaka maingay or me monetary favors just to exercise this right to suffrage.

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 09:57 PM

May bago pa ba? Kung meron man, anu-ano ang mga yun?

Halina, mag talakayan tayo dito (ng matino at mahinahon).

 

 

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sa ngayon ay tingin ko wala pa nababago.
yung mga luma nanggagamit. yung mga bago nanggagamit din.
ang mahalaga lang sa kanila lahat ay ang manalo



#16 camiar

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Posted 24 January 2019 - 12:11 PM

wala na pagbabago yan unless magkaron ng electoral reform. sana meron independent body that will make an honest to goodness evaluation of a candidate before the prospective candidate will file for a govt position. once qualified then the independent body will circulate the qualifications, achievements, and platform of the candidate. this way, malalaman ng voting public kung na yung candidate e ndi involved or implicated in a corruption issue in the past, ndi member ng isa or numerous political family, has a sound and feasible platform of what he or she can do in the govt position for the interest of many, etc. at present, i would say na mas intelligent na ang voting public pero marami pa rin na ndi totally knowledgeable about sa candidate kaya na nagre rely na lang kung sinu ang pinaka maingay or me monetary favors just to exercise this right to suffrage.

What you wish for will never happen, unless you want an authoritarian government like in mainland China. In their system, the "candidates" are vetted by the Communist Party before they can "run" for public office. Now they have a system as corrupt as the Imperial monarchy and the Nationalist government that they replaced. 

 

Our current democratic system is good enough if we just give it a chance. Educating the voters on how to choose the right candidate is one way to improve the system. This forum is part of that education process. 



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Posted 24 January 2019 - 01:17 PM

What you wish for will never happen, unless you want an authoritarian government like in mainland China. In their system, the "candidates" are vetted by the Communist Party before they can "run" for public office. Now they have a system as corrupt as the Imperial monarchy and the Nationalist government that they replaced. 
 
Our current democratic system is good enough if we just give it a chance. Educating the voters on how to choose the right candidate is one way to improve the system. This forum is part of that education process.


i guess you’re right. but then there must be something good and better done in China right now and they are following communism. Singapore has that evaluation system and they are democratic not communist and yet they’re better than us. since my childhood in the ‘60s, my elderlies have been bickering about politics and how it should have been. its 2019 now and all my elderlies are have departed and still the voting public doesnt know how to select the proper person to be in that position. this is the reason why the need for an electoral reform that is merited over the amendment of the constitution but not change in constitution. yes education is good but what is the correct way of educating our voting public? what i intend to say is that the independent body will pre-qualify or filter the candidates to just a few and getting rid of all those corruption-contaminated and traditional politicians. so from the few pre-qualified candidates, whoever is chosen by the voting public, at least we can sleep better at walang tulak kabigin maski sinu man sa kanila mapili.

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Posted 24 January 2019 - 08:31 PM

i guess you’re right. but then there must be something good and better done in China right now and they are following communism. Singapore has that evaluation system and they are democratic not communist and yet they’re better than us. since my childhood in the ‘60s, my elderlies have been bickering about politics and how it should have been. its 2019 now and all my elderlies are have departed and still the voting public doesnt know how to select the proper person to be in that position. this is the reason why the need for an electoral reform that is merited over the amendment of the constitution but not change in constitution. yes education is good but what is the correct way of educating our voting public? what i intend to say is that the independent body will pre-qualify or filter the candidates to just a few and getting rid of all those corruption-contaminated and traditional politicians. so from the few pre-qualified candidates, whoever is chosen by the voting public, at least we can sleep better at walang tulak kabigin maski sinu man sa kanila mapili.

In Singapore the government party (People's Action Party) evaluates the integrity of their own candidates, but the opposition parties are not mandated to do the same (though they may follow similar selection process). The Singaporeans have a choice to trust PAP's chosen candidates or vote for the opposition. That's the huge difference between Singapore and China. China has one single party -- no alternative choice.

 

It is not a democracy if the candidates are vetted by anybody other than the voters who can choose freely.

 

An "independent body" can never be trusted to be independent.


Edited by camiar, 24 January 2019 - 08:32 PM.


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Posted 24 January 2019 - 08:54 PM

In Singapore the government party (People's Action Party) evaluates the integrity of their own candidates, but the opposition parties are not mandated to do the same (though they may follow similar selection process). The Singaporeans have a choice to trust PAP's chosen candidates or vote for the opposition. That's the huge difference between Singapore and China. China has one single party -- no alternative choice.
 
It is not a democracy if the candidates are vetted by anybody other than the voters who can choose freely.
 
An "independent body" can never be trusted to be independent.


yes i know what sgp and china has. if an independent can never be trusted to be independent, then how? who can the people trust? point of this discussion is kung me pag asa pa ba. my opinion is wala na, unless, there will be an electoral reform. that’s my opinion.

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Posted 25 January 2019 - 01:44 PM

I am not sold on Iskho Moreno. I heard unsavory things about him. 


Edited by will robie, 25 January 2019 - 01:45 PM.






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