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#161 rooster69ph

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Posted 31 December 2018 - 01:42 AM

sa tingin mo ba aaminin nila sa kanilang sarili na natanso sila? HINDI...so that explains kung bakit pinaninindigan nila ang kahibangan na may pag-gagago este pagbabago

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Posted 31 December 2018 - 11:13 PM

sa tingin mo ba aaminin nila sa kanilang sarili na natanso sila? HINDI...so that explains kung bakit pinaninindigan nila ang kahibangan na may pag-gagago este pagbabago

 

Yung iba kasi napasubo na sa mga kahibangan nila. Kung makapanalita eh akala mo pagkagaling galing. pero kapag naiipit na eh parang bata may tantrum at daig pa ang mga conio kung makapag-ingles. magaling nga mag ingles pero wala namang lalim ang nilalaman. Abo lang ata laman ng bungo.



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Posted 01 January 2019 - 07:15 AM

Yung iba kasi napasubo na sa mga kahibangan nila. Kung makapanalita eh akala mo pagkagaling galing. pero kapag naiipit na eh parang bata may tantrum at daig pa ang mga conio kung makapag-ingles. magaling nga mag ingles pero wala namang lalim ang nilalaman. Abo lang ata laman ng bungo.


dalawang uri yan .... yun napasubo na sa kahibangan at yun sadyang nahihibang pa

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Posted 02 January 2019 - 09:14 AM

 

so sinisisi mo sa tao ni Du30 ang kapalpakan nilang mag-react sa issue? Sisihin daw ba ang kabinete pero sini-sisi mo si pNot sa issue na pwede din nating maihalintulad sa premise mo na kabinete din niya ang may kasalanan. Iba talaga ang dating kapag wala nang bawi ang binabatikos. Pinapaganda mo pa ang dating sa present admin eh pareho lang din naman silang trapo.

 

Ginamit ng both parties ang Dengvaxia for their personal gains. Hindi mo lang napapansin dahil mukhang nasisilaw ka sa mga mimumudmod nilang press release at black propaganda sa social media para hindi ka na maghirap humanap ng sa tingin mo eh "TRUTH" pero gaya ng karamihan dito NATANSO ka lang sa kanilang matatamis na boladas.

 

Ikaw yung nahihibang assuming I base my information in social media.  My basis is what transpired in the senate hearing.  Du30 continued the project not knowing the possible danger it may cause. Remember there is no medical proof yet that dengvaxia is flawed.  Ang mahirap dito pinili lang dun sa sinabi ko yung inintindi.

Ang pinaka mali dito is yung wrong and haste process when implementing a new vaccine.  When Du30 took office no one voiced out about that wrong process that transpired so the project continued.  So sino ang may malicious intent dito?  Kung may nag voice out sana ng mas maaga from the MEDICAL EXPERTS nagkaroon sana ng senate inquiry agad and surely wala sanang naturukan during this admin. 



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Posted 02 January 2019 - 05:11 PM

 
Ikaw yung nahihibang assuming I base my information in social media.  My basis is what transpired in the senate hearing.  Du30 continued the project not knowing the possible danger it may cause. Remember there is no medical proof yet that dengvaxia is flawed.  Ang mahirap dito pinili lang dun sa sinabi ko yung inintindi.
Ang pinaka mali dito is yung wrong and haste process when implementing a new vaccine.  When Du30 took office no one voiced out about that wrong process that transpired so the project continued.  So sino ang may malicious intent dito?  Kung may nag voice out sana ng mas maaga from the MEDICAL EXPERTS nagkaroon sana ng senate inquiry agad and surely wala sanang naturukan during this admin. 


Paki linaw nga kung ano yun sinasabi mong "mali sa process" para magkalinawan lang.

Are you referring to the simple procurement process or does it also include the technical side like dapat may mga test na ginawa or medical certification na issued that this is safe.

The reason i ask is that if simply procurement process then ang kaso diyan is most likely graft and corruption. Now ang pinupunto mo ba eh dapat madiin sa pagkamatay ng mga bata dahil may nilabag na kung ano mang procedures aside from the procurement procedure? If so ano yun? O ano dapat ang ginawa

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Posted 03 January 2019 - 09:27 AM

Paki linaw nga kung ano yun sinasabi mong "mali sa process" para magkalinawan lang.

Are you referring to the simple procurement process or does it also include the technical side like dapat may mga test na ginawa or medical certification na issued that this is safe.

The reason i ask is that if simply procurement process then ang kaso diyan is most likely graft and corruption. Now ang pinupunto mo ba eh dapat madiin sa pagkamatay ng mga bata dahil may nilabag na kung ano mang procedures aside from the procurement procedure? If so ano yun? O ano dapat ang ginawa

 

In the senate hearing, experts explained how a new vaccine should be implemented.  This was not done properly, ang problem din is this same people didn't made some noise after Abnoys term.



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Posted 03 January 2019 - 11:59 AM

 
In the senate hearing, experts explained how a new vaccine should be implemented.  This was not done properly, ang problem din is this same people didn't made some noise after Abnoys term.


Great!

Now having said that who was Duterte's first appointee as DOH secretary? Isnt she aware as USec of what happened ... specefically how new vaccines should be implemented and how dengvaxia was implemented?

Now if she didnt make any noise and the duterte admin continued the program abswelto dahil sa ignorance o katangahan?

Ang tawag kasi diyan paghuhugas kamay. Ngayong may namatay ang bilis ninyong magturo na kesyo may mali sa implementation samantalang from the start kung tulad ng sinasabi ninyo na minadali ang paglaunch ng dengvaxia then from the start it should have been suspended and investigated upon kahit wala pang aberya since sa iyo na nanggaling procurement pa lang sablay na.

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Posted 03 January 2019 - 12:11 PM

Great!

Now having said that who was Duterte's first appointee as DOH secretary? Isnt she aware as USec of what happened ... specefically how new vaccines should be implemented and how dengvaxia was implemented?

Now if she didnt make any noise and the duterte admin continued the program abswelto dahil sa ignorance o katangahan?

Ang tawag kasi diyan paghuhugas kamay. Ngayong may namatay ang bilis ninyong magturo na kesyo may mali sa implementation samantalang from the start kung tulad ng sinasabi ninyo na minadali ang paglaunch ng dengvaxia then from the start it should have been suspended and investigated upon kahit wala pang aberya since sa iyo na nanggaling procurement pa lang sablay na.

 

Read my previous posts kung sino yung may kasalanan sa present admin. And I'm even happy that she was not confirmed as DOH Sec.



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Posted 03 January 2019 - 12:19 PM

Alam mo haroots parang ganito lang yan ...

If you work in a company wherein because of a change in management nagkaroon ng bagong presidente at ikaw ang itinalagang bagong dept head. Alam mo may ipinatupad na di ayon sa proseso ang boss mo na siyang pinalitan mo bilang dept head pero nanahimik ka. Biglang isang araw pumutok at nagdulot ito ng malaking aberya sa kumpanya. Ano sasabihin mo yun ex boss mo ang may kagagawan kasi kaya abswelto ka kahit alam mo ngunit pinili mong manahumik?

At paano na yun bagong presidente ganun din ituturo ang sisi sa past president? Hindi ba siya accountable na yun nilagay niyang dept head eh nanahimik lang imbes na may ginawa agad.

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Posted 03 January 2019 - 12:47 PM

 
Read my previous posts kung sino yung may kasalanan sa present admin. And I'm even happy that she was not confirmed as DOH Sec.

That lick ass/balls in you really have to insulate the president from any wrong doings or accountabilities ...hahaha.

Edited by rooster69ph, 03 January 2019 - 12:54 PM.


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Posted 03 January 2019 - 05:01 PM

 

Ikaw yung nahihibang assuming I base my information in social media.  My basis is what transpired in the senate hearing.  Du30 continued the project not knowing the possible danger it may cause. Remember there is no medical proof yet that dengvaxia is flawed.  Ang mahirap dito pinili lang dun sa sinabi ko yung inintindi.

Ang pinaka mali dito is yung wrong and haste process when implementing a new vaccine.  When Du30 took office no one voiced out about that wrong process that transpired so the project continued.  So sino ang may malicious intent dito?  Kung may nag voice out sana ng mas maaga from the MEDICAL EXPERTS nagkaroon sana ng senate inquiry agad and surely wala sanang naturukan during this admin. 

 

yun naman pala ang basis mo. eh bakit hindi mo makita-kita ang ginagawa nila sa harapan mo? SInabi ko naman sa iyo di ba? ginamit ng both parties ang dengvaxia para sa kanilang personal gains. iisa lang nakikita mo. ang manisi. pero may chance ang present admin para ,maiwasan pang lumala ang dengvaxia. NAkikinig ka ba ng balita? sa 80+ na namatay sa dengvaxia eh nasa 7 na ang namatay DURING sa term na ni duterte.

 

Voiced out na medical experts? HELLO? hindi mo ba narinig sa balita ang reklamo nina Dr. TONY LEACHON? Nagrereklamo na sila noong panahon ni Abnoy at Duterte. May nakinig ba na Cabinet sec sa both admin?  WALA.



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Posted 03 January 2019 - 05:57 PM

 

yun naman pala ang basis mo. eh bakit hindi mo makita-kita ang ginagawa nila sa harapan mo? SInabi ko naman sa iyo di ba? ginamit ng both parties ang dengvaxia para sa kanilang personal gains. iisa lang nakikita mo. ang manisi. pero may chance ang present admin para ,maiwasan pang lumala ang dengvaxia. NAkikinig ka ba ng balita? sa 80+ na namatay sa dengvaxia eh nasa 7 na ang namatay DURING sa term na ni duterte.

 

Voiced out na medical experts? HELLO? hindi mo ba narinig sa balita ang reklamo nina Dr. TONY LEACHON? Nagrereklamo na sila noong panahon ni Abnoy at Duterte. May nakinig ba na Cabinet sec sa both admin?  WALA.

 

Personal gains?  What would Du30 get by just continuing the Dengvaxia Vaccine Project of Abnoy?  His satisfaction rating is still very high because of his ati grug campaign.



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Posted 03 January 2019 - 06:28 PM

 

Personal gains?  What would Du30 get by just continuing the Dengvaxia Vaccine Project of Abnoy?  His satisfaction rating is still very high because of his ati grug campaign.

 

Ayan tayo eh ang galing mo mag-isip ng kakaiba sa past admin pero umaarteng slow kapag present admin. Abnoy used this dengvaxia to push the candidacy of his political party. While Duterte used dengvaxia to demonize the past admin that is critical to his actions. Kung hindi mo maintindihan ang nilalaman ng statement ko. I have some bad news for you.



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Posted 03 January 2019 - 11:21 PM

Issue pa rin pala ang Dengvaxia sa iba. Some countries have approved the vaccine plus di rin ttoo na may namatay sa Pinas due to Dengvaxia. In not sure what is still the issue on this.

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Posted 04 January 2019 - 11:23 AM

Well they want to villify some people to the point that they don't really care about the casualties it's costing the nation (rising anti-vaxxers).

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Posted 13 April 2019 - 03:57 AM

They said it is a failure

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Posted 08 May 2019 - 09:50 PM

The fact that the Philippine Pediatric Society did not call for a ban of Dengvaxia should more or less be a sign of its efficacy...

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Posted 09 May 2019 - 07:33 PM

The fact that the Philippine Pediatric Society did not call for a ban of Dengvaxia should more or less be a sign of its efficacy...

 

Really?

 

Non Sequitur. Your conclusion does not logically follow the previous statement.

 

It may just be that Philippine Pediatric Society chose not to get themselves associated in any way with Dengvaxia infamy. 


Edited by camiar, 09 May 2019 - 07:33 PM.






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