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#3361 lee sawyer

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Posted 07 September 2020 - 08:19 PM

 

 

That's what I've been saying all along. Bureaucracy. Delayed release of funds, delayed procesing, etc.... are inherent problems in our government bureaucracy. We will have the same problems no matter who is appointed as DOH Secretary. Besides, when it comes to releasing of funds, it is very complicated kasi pera ang pinag-uusapan. It is not just DOH involved. Pati DBM, COA, pati sources of funds like Philhealth, and PCSO are all intertwined. Hindi kayang brasuhin yan ng isang hamak na cabinet secretary lang.

The fact of the matter is we have a pandemic and as SOH, he should be on top of the situation. Apparently, based on his statement, he is clueless as to what is going on around him. As the boss, he should be aware of what is going on around him, take full responsibility and not blame it on his subordinates. 


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Posted 07 September 2020 - 08:22 PM

 

Hahaha! Baka naman gumaganti lang ang mga senador na yan dahil nabulgar sa media na nakipag-unahan pa sila nung February sa limited covid testing kits para mauna sa testing ang mga sarili nila at mga pamilya nila? Anong kinapuntahan ng Resolution 362 nila? Nganga lang sila, di ba?
Eto pa. Yang mga senador na yan, may kanya-kanyang manok sa supply ng covid test kits, medical face masks, face shields, PPE, ventilators, disinfectants, etc... worth tens of billions of pesos. Everybody's trying to corner their supply market. Are they unhappy with Duque because he's not playing ball with them?

These are all unsubstantiated allegations. 


Edited by lee sawyer, 07 September 2020 - 08:24 PM.


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Posted 08 September 2020 - 12:26 PM

Napapailing na lang ako sa estado natin ngayon...
1.Manila bay is about Php 386M... sayang ang pera...

2.Wala or limited trabaho mga drivers ng PUVs

3.parang Walang clear direction how to address the pandemic ultimately. Nag announce na we had flattened the curve... paano na flatten?

4.Ngayon, tayo ang me travel restrictions sa Malaysia,China, Japan etc...

5.Tapos ipinapasok pa ang water crisis...

6.Speaking bad about legit businesses baka bumagsak ang stocks ng mga yan and mabili ng mga ibang individuals

7. Parang Favoring masyado yung ibang business...

8. Allegedly, gustong i open ng Globe and Smart ang kanilang mga tower para sa ibang telco...

Madami pang issue...

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Posted 09 September 2020 - 10:12 PM

These are all unsubstantiated allegations. 

I stand by my statement. The three reasons you cited on why Duque should be fired are the ones unsubstantiated. 

 

Remember, Du30 fires his cabinet members just allegations of wrongdoing. Du30 knows Duque much more than anybody of us in this forum. The fact that he still trusts Duque should tell you something. 



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Posted 09 September 2020 - 10:26 PM

Again, unless there is a confirmatory test, you just don't treat it as if it is covid-19. Yes, it is a stupid statement since only a confirmatory test can determine if one has covid-19. Doctors' professional advice? Even doctors will tell you that only a confirmatory test can prove if someone has covid-19.

 

Technically right? Seriously? How can you have a second wave when the first wave isn't done yet? 

You have to look at it at the context when it was stated. 
The statement was made as instruction to hospital workers to manage patients with covid-like symptoms as if they are covid positive patients.
My relatives and friends in the medical sector told me this after several doctors, nurses, and medical technicians were infected by patients who did not declare their true health status. 

Seriously, he's technically correct. As I said, the Secretary of Health has data analysts who knows about pandemic waves from whom he gets information when he makes statements. How about you, where do you get your information? from Inquirer and ABS-CBN?


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#3366 lee sawyer

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Posted 09 September 2020 - 11:40 PM

You have to look at it at the context when it was stated. 
The statement was made as instruction to hospital workers to manage patients with covid-like symptoms as if they are covid positive patients.
My relatives and friends in the medical sector told me this after several doctors, nurses, and medical technicians were infected by patients who did not declare their true health status. 

Seriously, he's technically correct. As I said, the Secretary of Health has data analysts who knows about pandemic waves from whom he gets information when he makes statements. How about you, where do you get your information? from Inquirer and ABS-CBN?

You don't assume it's covid unless there is a confirmatory test. If you have cancer-like symptoms, would you assume it's cancer? 

 

So tell me, where did Duque get the information that there is a second wave when the first wave isn't even done yet? 


Edited by lee sawyer, 11 September 2020 - 05:03 PM.


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Posted 11 September 2020 - 02:38 PM

this government is being run like a Mafia organization. Be it the drug problem and the current pandemic everything is about making money for this administration. It is trying so hard or have already surpassed the corruption and moral decay of the Marcos regime. The duterte administration is all talk and nothing to show for it.

 

So you know how a Mafia organization works.  Did you learned this first hand or you just compared it in movies? :D  Also until now there is always comparison sa Marcos regime.  Di pa rin maka move on  sa kanya.


Edited by haroots2, 11 September 2020 - 02:42 PM.


#3368 lee sawyer

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Posted 11 September 2020 - 05:12 PM

I stand by my statement. The three reasons you cited on why Duque should be fired are the ones unsubstantiated. 

 

Remember, Du30 fires his cabinet members just allegations of wrongdoing. Du30 knows Duque much more than anybody of us in this forum. The fact that he still trusts Duque should tell you something. 

The first two statements came from him. What were his bases? The third came from senators. I still support the president but I am not in agreement with his keeping Duque. 



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Posted 14 September 2020 - 04:54 PM

You don't assume it's covid unless there is a confirmatory test. If you have cancer-like symptoms, would you assume it's cancer? 

 

So tell me, where did Duque get the information that there is a second wave when the first wave isn't even done yet? 

You, as an individual, can assume you're healthy despite your symptoms. But I assure you, if you ever go to a hospital showing covid-like symptoms, I'll guarantee you they will handle you as if you were a covid-infected patient, unless you can produce a credible test result proving you tested negative. Is that clear enough to you?

 

You, as an individual, can believe what you want about how epidemic waves manifest themselves. The DoH will follow their own data analysis. thank you.



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Posted 14 September 2020 - 05:24 PM

You, as an individual, can assume you're healthy despite your symptoms. But I assure you, if you ever go to a hospital showing covid-like symptoms, I'll guarantee you they will handle you as if you were a covid-infected patient, unless you can produce a credible test result proving you tested negative. Is that clear enough to you?

 

You, as an individual, can believe what you want about how epidemic waves manifest themselves. The DoH will follow their own data analysis. thank you.

My point is Duque wanted people to assume that they have covid if they have covid-like symptoms. Only a confirmatory test can determine if you have covid. 

 

By the way, Duque ate his words a day after he said there is a second wave of covid in the Philippines. 


Edited by lee sawyer, 14 September 2020 - 05:24 PM.


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Posted 14 September 2020 - 05:39 PM

My point is Duque wanted people to assume that they have covid if they have covid-like symptoms. Only a confirmatory test can determine if you have covid. 

 

By the way, Duque ate his words a day after he said there is a second wave of covid in the Philippines. 

You assume he was telling the people what to assume. He was telling hospital workers how to manage patients with covid-like symptoms. As usual the press presented it the wrong way. 

Anyway, his instructions to hospitals to manage patients with covid-like symptoms as if they were covid positive is now the protocol in hospitals, and it saves medical workers' lives.


Edited by camiar, 14 September 2020 - 05:43 PM.


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Posted 14 September 2020 - 10:11 PM

You assume he was telling the people what to assume. He was telling hospital workers how to manage patients with covid-like symptoms. As usual the press presented it the wrong way. 

Anyway, his instructions to hospitals to manage patients with covid-like symptoms as if they were covid positive is now the protocol in hospitals, and it saves medical workers' lives.

I am not assuming anything. It came straight out of the horse's mouth so to speak. 



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Posted 15 September 2020 - 06:23 AM

I stand by my statement. The three reasons you cited on why Duque should be fired are the ones unsubstantiated. 

 

Remember, Du30 fires his cabinet members just allegations of wrongdoing. Du30 knows Duque much more than anybody of us in this forum. The fact that he still trusts Duque should tell you something. 

 

 

baka naman kasi "nagdedeliver" si duque kay duterte at sa mga minions nya ....

 

ikaw na nagsabi na for mere allegation, duterte fires his cabinet members, so something must be "special" kay duque for duterte not to fire him despite the allegations. 



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Posted 17 September 2020 - 05:54 PM

For me mahina si Duque. An old school official na walang diskarte.  Can't think out of the box. Kapag sinabing di kaya, walang gagawin.



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Posted 17 September 2020 - 10:35 PM

p#tang$na!

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Posted 19 September 2020 - 12:48 AM

1/10



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Posted Today, 01:35 PM

 

 

baka naman kasi "nagdedeliver" si duque kay duterte at sa mga minions nya ....

 

ikaw na nagsabi na for mere allegation, duterte fires his cabinet members, so something must be "special" kay duque for duterte not to fire him despite the allegations. 

Panyero, parang contradictory yata ang logic ng argument mo.  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

 

Ang tinatanong ko nga sa yo sa previous posts : Meron ka bang alam na ginagawang kababalaghan si Duque para masibak siya? Wala ka namang naisagot dati. 

 

Ngayon eto ka na naman sa speculation mo, na "baka naman kasi...".

 

Substantiate your allegations. 


Edited by camiar, Today, 01:43 PM.


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Posted Today, 01:52 PM

For me mahina si Duque. An old school official na walang diskarte.  Can't think out of the box. Kapag sinabing di kaya, walang gagawin.

That kind of reasoning will not get Duque fired. 

 

"Can't think outside the box" is so subjective, Duque can apply the same criteria to you and you'd also fail in his perspective.







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