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Antonio Trillanes: Criticism And Controversies


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-he may be attention grabber at first due to certain exposé that he had done in the past, may it be factual or fictional

-he may have an on point on certain issues that we have (need not to elaborate)

 

but by God revocation of amnesty is by far below the belt, meaning to say that our "rights" as of now can be turned into "privilege" and that the gov't can take it away with a snap of a finger just like that. What is going on nowadays? Like everybody nowadays had no respect.

 

Who needs Game of Thrones when we have Philippine Politics, kidding aside :D

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Whether you are pro or anti Trillanes, this amnesty revocation is not good for the country. It will reflect on the credibility of the Philippine government. Imagine this - If in the future, the Philippines wants to promote peace by encouraging rebels to surrender by offering them amnesties, sinong gago ang maniniwala na ngayon?

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On Trillanes' accusations against Duterte and family: madalas below the belt na. If he has the goods, he should go to court. Otherwise, pamumulitika lang niya yan.

On Proclamation 572: blatantly illegal. Nagkamali si Duterte this time around. Sa factual basis pa mali na agad, sabay may illegal arrest orders pa. The SC can bend over backwards for him only so much. Milagro na yan kung i-uphold pa ng SC yung Proc 572.

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sa military, simpleng desertion lang (i.e. sundalo ka dineploy sa Basilan, pagdating mo duon, sabi mo nakakakot pala tutuong gyera, umayaw ka na at uumuwi nlang sa bahay) - sobrang matindi na repercussion nito, hindi mo pa kinalaban kapwa mo sundalo, tinalikuran mo lang. How much more pa kaya if mutiny na o rebellion? handa ka mamatay at pumatay sa kapwa mo sundalo. Dapat kahit sinong umupo, past, present & future hindi hinayaang ganun-ganun nalang makalaya mga ganyan sundalo. - Regardless kung anong partido pa ung makaupo.

 

Back to Trillanes, although tutuo nagfile cya ng amnesty pero kulang sa requirements ung nai-submit nya na papers. In short ung labanan dito is wala naman talagang amnesty nagganap in the 1st place (parang nag-apply ka ng work, tanggap kana sana pero kulang ka sa requirements like medical certificate, void ung employment mo kasi hindi mo nabuo lahat ng kelangan para magiging ganap na empleyado).. walang ni-revoke kundi void because lack of requirements.

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Back to Trillanes, although tutuo nagfile cya ng amnesty pero kulang sa requirements ung nai-submit nya na papers. In short ung labanan dito is wala naman talagang amnesty nagganap in the 1st place (parang nag-apply ka ng work, tanggap kana sana pero kulang ka sa requirements like medical certificate, void ung employment mo kasi hindi mo nabuo lahat ng kelangan para magiging ganap na empleyado).. walang ni-revoke kundi void because lack of requirements.

 

You're still saying this despite the fact that Trillanes already showed documentary and video proof that his amnesty application is without any hiccups?

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^may video nga ngsubmit cya, but the video only proved he's submitted his application, it does not prove na completo lahat binigay nya at dumaan sa tamang proseso according to the procedure for applying amnesty (i.e. dun sa job applicant sample ko: there's CCTV footage of the job applicant handing out his requirements to the HR, but the CCTV could not show na may kasamang medical certificate dun)

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Para sakin, sedition & rebellion dapat hindi nakakalusot mga yan lalo't ikaw mismo opisyal ng militar. Sa ibang bansa nga kahit US, Russia o China pa, matindi repercussion (death penalty pa nga in some nations) if kumalas ka sa hanay mo para makipagdigma sa kapwa mo sundalo.

 

Ung desertion nga eh mataas na crime nga, sedition pa kaya?

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^may video nga ngsubmit cya, but the video only proved he's submitted his application, it does not prove na completo lahat binigay nya at dumaan sa tamang proseso according to the procedure for applying amnesty (i.e. dun sa job applicant sample ko: there's CCTV footage of the job applicant handing out his requirements to the HR, but the CCTV could not show na may kasamang medical certificate dun)

 

You might want to take a look at this.

https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/09/04/18/throwback-trillanes-files-amnesty-application

 

Now, and dahilan ng palasyo is "hindi nila mahanap" kaya tinutulak nilang void ang amnesty. LOL

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Naging personalan na nag kalakaran sa politics ng bansa natin..isang example yang nangyayarr kay trillanes at PRRD... Napakapangit tingnan.. Imbis na atupagin ng mga inihalal nating mga leaders ang problema ng bayan eh mas parang napaprioritized pa itong mga ganitong bangayan..

 

Ang media lang naman ang nagpa-prioritize.

 

Buti naman nasa SC na ang bola. Sundin na lang ang sasabihin ng Korte Suprema.

 

Si Trillanes dapat dine-dedma na lang.

 

Mali ang Malacanang na patulan pa yang ugok na yan.

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First di pa ba malinaw yung video na session sa senate na sinabi ni Enrile na pabalik balik siya sa china for what reason at don't take notes sa meeting? Totoo kaya ang rumors na nabenta na ang isla ng pilipinas bago umupo si duterte at for publicity lang kuno ang petition ni Pnoy sa The Hague? Aside sa video pinakita na panay deny niya at sinasabi niya na classified daw. So regards to that charge agad for Treason na nagbentahan na ng isla for their own benefit of his group, Secondly yung Oakwood Mutiny sinasabi niya na di raw sila nag kudeta ehh kung sa North Korea nga General na sangkot sa anomalya pina firing squad eh.


 

You're still saying this despite the fact that Trillanes already showed documentary and video proof that his amnesty application is without any hiccups?

Di basehan yung mga videona proof dahil pag tinanong ng SC yan kailangan nila ng original hard copy nung application na nabigyan siya ng amnesty ayon sa isang lawyer yun sa isang news.

 

^may video nga ngsubmit cya, but the video only proved he's submitted his application, it does not prove na completo lahat binigay nya at dumaan sa tamang proseso according to the procedure for applying amnesty (i.e. dun sa job applicant sample ko: there's CCTV footage of the job applicant handing out his requirements to the HR, but the CCTV could not show na may kasamang medical certificate dun)

Agree on this hindi ka 100% applied or pasok sa isang trabaho kung kulang ka ng requirements kumbaga ehh nagenroll ka sa school nagbayad ka nga ng tuition sa application to enroll pero wala kang other requirements like birth certificate or previous school grade cards.

 

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On Proclamation 572: blatantly illegal. Nagkamali si Duterte this time around. Sa factual basis pa mali na agad, sabay may illegal arrest orders pa. The SC can bend over backwards for him only so much. Milagro na yan kung i-uphold pa ng SC yung Proc 572.

Atty. Panindigan mo itong sinabi mo ha, tingnan natin kung hit or miss ka. Sa merits palang mukang kulang na pagka conclude mo.

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Nabebenta kasi Pardon dito. Politika ang dahilan kaya napapardon mga yan. Dahil sa pardon na yan naging attack dog ng LP yang si Trillanes, ayun nadale si Binay. Nung humina sa survey si Du30 naman yung tinira. Pero tama si Camiar, hintayin na lang matapos termino ni Trillanes next year.

Kagaya ni Erap dapat nasa kulungan na yan.

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Whether you are pro or anti Trillanes, this amnesty revocation is not good for the country. It will reflect on the credibility of the Philippine government. Imagine this - If in the future, the Philippines wants to promote peace by encouraging rebels to surrender by offering them amnesties, sinong gago ang maniniwala na ngayon?

 

thus, amnesty shall be processed with due diligence otherwise such would be void.

 

past gov't gave politically motivated amnesty and was then used purposely on such beneficial to them.

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thus, amnesty shall be processed with due diligence otherwise such would be void.

 

 

That's exactly my point about credibility. Due diligence is done and is typically more importantly when you do not trust the person or entity you are dealing with. Now that we know that our own government can renege on a previous agreement, we know that we can't trust them and must do this so called due diligence before accepting an amnesty. Pano na ngayon itong mga rebelde na most likely konti lang ang pinagaralan. How do you expect them to do due diligence with no formal education? Duterte just destroyed one of the governments tools for promoting peace. He is destroying the governments credibility.

 

 

 

past gov't gave politically motivated amnesty and was then used purposely on such beneficial to them.

 

Really? When Aquino gave the amnesty to the Magdalos back in 2010, he was already thinking about using Trillanes to attack Binay and Duterte in 2016? Advanced mag-isip? Hindi ba niya naisip na yung mga ibang binigyan niya ng amnesty eh kakampi kay Duterte?

 

How about this idea: Ang mga Dutertes ay inis na inis na kay Trillanes dahil sa mga pasabog niya. Kaya nila itong pahiyain by just signing the waiver or showing the tatoo pero hindi nila magawa (I wonder why). Wala silang makuhang dumi kay Trillanes, kaya nagiimbento nalang sila ng kaso. No doubt this is personal for Duterte. With more important issues concerning the country, he chooses to go after Trillanes for such a trivial issue - an application.

 

 

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Agree ako kay JuanT,sa style ng gobyerno ngayon pag kalaban ka e hindi ka man lang tatagal ng isang buwan sa pwesto kung may mga kalokohan kang itinatago. Bulatlat lahat mahanapan ka lang ng butas. Sa sobrang taba ng utak nila naisip pa nila itong amnesty chuchu na ito. Hindi ko idol c trilanes, pero malinaw naman kung sino ang mali dito.

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