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Posted 27 March 2005 - 12:58 AM

Anybody here using Linux? I've been using it for 5 years already, and since then I never felt the need to use a pirated windows installer on any of my computers yet. I was wondering though if there are any MTC peeps that use Linux on their computers as well (may it be servers, workstations, home computers, laptops, etc.).

For those clueless about Linux, it's a Free Operating System that runs on a myriad of platforms (computer architectures) ranging from the most common x86 computers (Personal Computers) to high-performance server architectures (SPARC, Alpha, G5, etc.). It's an alternative to the most common operating systems such as Windows, Mac, and Unix. There are a number of distributions free for download and use. No Strings Attached!

So if you haven't given it a try yet, let's discuss it sometime so that we can spread the spirit of Free and Open Source software, and live "guilt free" of pirated installations!

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Posted 27 March 2005 - 03:41 AM

Been using Linux since the release or Redhat 6.0. Been using it mostly for server applications. It's indeed a good desktop replacement for Windows. Linux has come a long way. But still using Windows as my primary OS at home coz I'm not the only one using my PC. maybe if I buy a second PC and use it by myself I can use Linux as my desktop OS and totally ditch Windows.

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Posted 27 March 2005 - 04:21 AM

I use Linux in my multi-boot setup as my secondary OS. Although Linux has progressed far, there are still a few things that limit its penetration in the market. It will also take a few years to erase the Windows syndrome which has already become synonymous to an operating system for PCs. :headsetsmiley:

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Posted 27 March 2005 - 04:37 AM

It will also take a few years to erase the Windows syndrome which has already become synonymous to an operating system for PCs.  :headsetsmiley:

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True... But it never was the aim of Linux to erase Windows from the face of the planet. ;) Actually, it has already done its original purpose to be a better alternative to Minix -- a free "Unix" clone which actually works quite well. :D

Although I must admit, there are a lot of areas of improvement, especially in the consumer desktop market. It's going to take a larger effort than the "geek-next-door" movement to spread the news and get things moving towards higher quality products on the platform and into the mainstream with minimal cost. ;)

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Posted 27 March 2005 - 04:46 AM

maybe if I buy a second PC and use it by myself I can use Linux as my desktop OS and totally ditch Windows.

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Nice! ;) I started with slackware 7.0, and fell in love with debian 2 years ago. I last used windows on my computers 5 years ago, but I still use Windows at work and in computer shops. No matter how hard I try to get away from Windows, it fails because I end up in places where the only available OS is Windows. Besides, I can't be choosy when the need arises. ;)

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Posted 27 March 2005 - 06:03 AM

I have been using Mandrake 10CE for almost a year now, and I am planning to switch to Fedora maybe sometime this summer.

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Posted 27 March 2005 - 06:13 AM

I have been using Mandrake 10CE for almost a year now, and I am planning to switch to Fedora maybe sometime this summer.

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So how do you find Mandrake? What do you use it for? Do you like it? ;) Why not try something different like Ubuntu? Or Debian? Have you heard of Slackware? Anyway, there are a lot of options out there...

Nice, so far that's at least 3 people other than me who have been using Linux here in MTC! :D

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Posted 27 March 2005 - 01:05 PM

ok linux users i have a bayanihan limux at home and i last used it 2-3 years ago. never really gave it another try since i'm not the only one who's using the pc. but since ur the expert on this i want to ask ur opinion regarding this matter. i might give it a try again, though i aint a computer expert or doesnt know any technobable i'd like to know what are the linux equivalent of these softwares so i could give linux another try:

power dvd
ms office
winrar & winzip version?
musicmatch (wav to mp3 software)
mp3 player
dvd writer/ripper such as nero and the like

i also heard making an internet connection is much complicated than windows. does anybody here used WINE or something like that to link window software in linux? is it complicated?

much thanks.

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Posted 28 March 2005 - 02:06 PM

10 year linux user po. interactive mode pa lang ang linux. actually, mukha pa syang unix nun, gumagamit na ako neto.

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Posted 28 March 2005 - 02:59 PM

ok linux users i have a bayanihan limux at home and i last used it 2-3 years ago. never really gave it another try since i'm not the only one who's using the pc. but since ur the expert on this i want to ask ur opinion regarding this matter. i might give it a try again, though i aint a computer expert or doesnt know any technobable i'd like to know what are the linux equivalent of these softwares so i could give linux another try:

power dvd
ms office
winrar & winzip version?
musicmatch (wav to mp3 software)
mp3 player
dvd writer/ripper  such as nero and the like

i also heard making an internet connection is much complicated than windows. does anybody here used WINE or something like that to link window software in linux? is it complicated?

much thanks.

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I wouldn't say exepert ako, may mas expert pa sakin dito -- like Google, and the others. As for the software you're looking for:

Power DVD -- mas maganda pa (IMHO) Mplayer tsaka Xine
MS Office -- OpenOffice.org 1.1+ (more features than MS Office in fact)
Musicmatch -- (encoder) andami, take your pic: cdparanoia+lame, cdparanoia+flac, tapos mga frontends na naka-dikit sa kanil usually are: gripper, etc.
MP3 player -- XMMS, pwede rin mplayer/xine
dvd writer/ripper such as nero -- K3b (IMHO, mas maganda pa itsura at friendly to Nero users talaga).

WINE sucks -- pero biased to dahil I never really liked the idea of running windows software on Linux. It's complicated if you try to go through the DIY of making WINE run from code, pero if you pay the makers nung WINE, they'd gladly give you a package na you can install and run away with.

HTH

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Posted 28 March 2005 - 03:01 PM

Pahabol lang... Try another distro like Ubuntu or Mandrake so that you get more than what BL currently packages in their installers.

HTH!

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Posted 28 March 2005 - 10:28 PM

I tried Slackware. It's pretty simple to install and little flexible compare to other distros. However, the BSD like environment makes me turn away like the FreeBSD. Nasanay na kasi ako sa SVR4 like Solaris and RedHat. So i figured why bother, I can do anything I want anyway why Redhat distros. Sometimes having a lot of distro works against linux. It's a bit intimidating for a newbie.

Speaking of personal opinion and based on my experiences, just get distro that you can get right away. Get yourself familiar with it and stick to it. Once you are familiar it's easy to customize your installation from there on.

If you want to establish a career with Linux I think its best to stick with the most popular distro like Redhat or SuSe.

I've tried many distro before but I used RedHat for most part of it. Then, I'm getting to work a lot on SuSE since the company where I'm working choose Suse.

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Posted 29 March 2005 - 08:06 AM

sana yung ym for linux kasing ganda ng sa for windows. although, ok din naman ang gaim, eh iba pa rin pag nakakaview ka ng webcam show hehe.

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Posted 29 March 2005 - 10:33 AM

sana yung ym for linux kasing ganda ng sa for windows. although, ok din naman ang gaim, eh iba pa rin pag nakakaview ka ng webcam show hehe.

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Merong nirecommend sakin dati yung kasama ko sa PLUG, yung gyanche (or something to that effect) na pwede ka talaga manood ng webcam ng ibang tao through YM. Pero hindi ako sure, sabi nya konti lang daw webcams na supported.

Hindi natin masisisi Yahoo! to develop the Yahoo! Messenger as good as it has in Windows, kasi hindi naman talaga madali yung mag-develop ng GUI applications na "astig" sa Linux. At least ako nagkakaproblema ako dun sa side na yun. Besides, for a platform as fast evolving as Linux, mahirap sabayan yung development cycle kung hindi open source yung application nila. ;)

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Posted 29 March 2005 - 10:40 AM

I tried Slackware. It's pretty simple to install and little flexible compare to other distros. However, the BSD like environment makes me turn away like the FreeBSD. Nasanay na kasi ako sa SVR4 like Solaris and RedHat. So i figured why bother, I can do anything I want anyway why Redhat distros. Sometimes having a lot of distro works against linux. It's a bit intimidating for a newbie.

Speaking of personal opinion and based on my experiences, just get distro that you can get right away. Get yourself familiar with it and stick to it. Once you are familiar it's easy to customize your installation from there on.

If you want to establish a career with Linux I think its best to stick with the most popular distro like Redhat or SuSe.

I've tried many distro before but I used RedHat for most part of it. Then, I'm getting to work a lot on SuSE since the company where I'm working choose Suse.

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I started using Slackware 7.0 pa yun. It was my very first distribution, and I felt very comfortable with it. Hindi ako sanay sa System V style ng ibang distros and kahit hanggang ngayon may certain unexplainable hate ako for Redhat and RH based distro's. Not surprisingly, I love Slackware and Debian. Looking forward to someday getting an LPI certification, but that's a long way monetarily and skill-wise.

I agree with your observation na kapag gusto mo magkaron ng career in Linux, concentrate ka sa sikat (but not necessaily the "best") na distribution.

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Posted 29 March 2005 - 01:35 PM

Tried Mandrake a couple of years ago, dual boot XP and linux. Wanted to make it my main OS, pero mabagal sa PC ko noon -- pIII-500, 128mb ram, p3bf board -- mas mabagal kesa Win XP, so it didn't work out. I'm planning to install Linux again now that I have a much improved PC, but sadly, I won't be able to do away with Windows because I use Visual Studio .NET.

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Posted 29 March 2005 - 02:42 PM

Tried Mandrake a couple of years ago, dual boot XP and linux. Wanted to make it my main OS, pero mabagal sa PC ko noon -- pIII-500, 128mb ram, p3bf board -- mas mabagal kesa Win XP, so it didn't work out. I'm planning to install Linux again now that I have a much improved PC, but sadly, I won't be able to do away with Windows because I use Visual Studio .NET.

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I tried Mandrake 8.0 (bought the boxed set) and installed it on my PIII-500 based PC too, and it was a hassle. I never really liked Mandrake, and eventually I reverted to Slackware nalang. I felt the big performance difference because of the minimalistic approach that Slackware brings to the table. It felt (and up to now still does feel) very fast compared to Mandrake, but I'm sure it was because Mandrake came with more bells and whistles running at the background -- and a lot of applications running in KDE.

I'm sorry about you being trapped with Visual Studio .NET -- are you doing this for work or just because you need an IDE? Kung IDE lang gusto mo, maraming open source na pwede ipalit sa Studio .NET. Pero kung trabaho, wala tayo magagawa dyan. ;)

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Posted 29 March 2005 - 03:18 PM

tried to use a red hat linux b4.. may installer pa nga ako...

kaso.. gusto ko sanang ilagay, kaso parang nakakatkot mag install na meron kang exsisting na
windows na os.. parang mapapatungan eh,

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Posted 29 March 2005 - 03:32 PM

tried to use a red hat linux b4.. may installer pa nga ako...

kaso.. gusto ko sanang ilagay, kaso parang nakakatkot mag install na meron kang exsisting na
windows na os.. parang mapapatungan eh,

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Ang alam ko kasi kung wala kang extra partition, talagang mapapatungan yung current OS mo. If you have a spare partition, make sure you BACK UP YOUR DATA FIRST before you do something potentially damaging like installing RedHat.

If you just want to try it out, you can try using a "live cd" which will boot into Linux -- pwede mo paglaruan muna yun, and pag confident ka na sa Linux, you can then try installing your distro of choice (or kahit hindi na, oks lang). Live cd's out there are knoppix, morphix, ubuntu, and yung slack live. Hindi na kailangan maginstall, makakapaglinux ka na off the CD.

And if in case you decide that you really want to install linux on your computer, make partitions for Linux (isang swap na 2x nung memory mo, and isang at least 3G para sa filesystem ng Linux) using Parition Magic, or other tools that will allow you to preserve your data while modifying the partition tables. Hindi lang ako familiar kung anuano yung mga tools na yan sa Windows, pero Parition Magic yung ginamit ko dati nung nakawindows pa ako at naginstall ako ng Linux sa spare partition.

HTH! CHill...

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Posted 30 March 2005 - 02:07 AM

I also tried Mandrake. Sure it's easy to install but I think it's too much bloated like Windows. It doesn't feel like your usring a Linux. If you really want to study Linux by heart Slackware is the best in my opinion. It offers the simplest package yet powerful set for a Linux Distro. Maybe because you are always in control. Same is true for Debian but it's not recommended for Beginners.

For me RedHat offers the best balance in flexibility and ease of use. For a corporate environment definitely Redhat has the upper hand. It think the best alternative is SuSe/Novell. Maybe for some user it's the other way around (SuSe then Redhat) especially Europeans.

If you want to challenge yourself try the Linux from Scratch. Or the Core Linux project available from SourceForge. You may want to create your own distribution by starting on these two distro.




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